Fuck it, comrades. I'm drunk and I'm just going to post

Your average radical leftist today thinks sectarian conflict is the best way to achieve our goals.

we need someone to get into a position of power to launch the nukes and we will be saved by aliens and brought to space communism in another world

posadas was right

I think this is an interesting little post

peterfrase.com/2014/03/the-comforts-of-dystopia/

I can't say he's wrong but, I don't see what else there is for us other than the small familiar comforts of being depressed

Thanks. It's refreshing to see an alliance between Anarchist and M-L's. Honestly, I'm willing to work with anyone at this point to get revolution!

Honestly, we need to bring an end to sectarianism. We need to educate if we want to properly pave the way for a communist revolution. The biggest problem is the state sanctioned propaganda, and proles refusing to accept that maybe socialism has what they want, and what is best for them.

There is no revolution because communism in 2016 would mean mass starvation like every other fucking time we tried it in history. The powers that be are comfy. The proles are fat and well fed.

Just relax and let the fascists create a new economic boom so we have necessary technology that no one needs to own the means of production because it creates itself.

If you want to help, learn about fractional reserve banking and why it ruins countries.

Then help the fascists remove the bankers and we can all be free.

Why cant I link to youtube on this inferior board?

I refuse to even entertain this idea.

f u c k o f f

It's gonna be real pointless to argue with you.

I know this shouldn't surprise me but holy fuck you people are delusional.

Sick consensus guys. I'm glad you all agree with each other.

You don't want to help us remove the bankers? Give me one good reason not to.

Now is the time to redeem yourself in the eyes of Lord Market. Only we can defeat the fascists.

That's not false…

I prefer capitalism to fascism

How could banks exist in a moneyless society?

Our biggest objective needs to be converting liberals.

Without the numbers, we can't win.

I agree with this but it's fucking hopeless.

Nice jpeg bra

Not sure if this can happen, comrade. I have a Liberal, and to put it bluntly, he is fucking cancer.

Not accepting facts, statistics and better yet, not even reading a book. That's right. Won't even read a fucking book.

I am a communist before I am anything. I'm not willing to work with someone who has the antithesis of my ideas, economically

maybe political catgirls will work on him

Fuck. Well I can't find it on google so whatever.

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Well, if the catgirls won't change his mind, nothing will.

Please correct your speech/logic, I didn't assume I was among the proletariat when I came here.

Pick one. This is the true end game, please google Fractional Reserve banking.

A meaningless question. How can motivation exist in a society without competition?

No it fucking isn't

So many liberals just don't realize that capitalism is harmful

It feels my heart with glee to see all of you leftyfags in despair.

asking someone to read a book is a big commitment

do what Holla Forums does but without the dishonesty – use statistics and infographics

But don't you see? We're winning, according to your own retard in the thread.

"I like cooking, and I'm pretty goof."
'Okay open a restaurant.'
"I will. Good thing I don't need to beg a bank for a loan, and rely on the profit to repay the loan."

keep thinking all the polls showing trump will be obliterated are skewed buddy

The bullshit about the Fed is a fucking sideshow, capitalism is inherently exploitative

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kek, what is this from?

You'd consider a janitor the high lord king of the banking empire if he had a big enough nose.

Muh reforms though, comrade! It can be reformed! Always can!

The Fed and central banks around the world are the only thing keeping it all afloat.

Who is buying your food?
Why wouldn't they buy it somewhere else?
Who is going to build the building?
Why do they do it for free?

The bullshit about the Fed is the ENTIRE reason capitalism is inherently exploitative. Captialism is money. Where does it come from?

Have you ever read anything about communism at all?

Take a wild fucking guess, user

I wish I knew, comrade. I found it on fagbook.

Man, politics really makes me want to kill myself sometimes

Marx's theory of capitalist exploitation was written way before the Federal Reserve even existed, you fucking idiot.

Got the manifesto in my bathroom, homo.

Have you ever read anything about what happened when people actually tried communism?

I know about the golden ideal. I prefer to observe reality.

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So, there was some point in spacetime where people went past socialism.. wait .. HAD ACHIEVED socialism, and history had reached the state of communism

Could please READ A BOOK OR SOMETHING?

In America. Maybe you should do more research about banking and it's perils.

Are you interested?

But Lenin wasn't true communism, right?

Plenty of bourgeois children don't compete for much of anything, and they seem to do alright.

Going bed. Check this thread in morning. Good to see people discussing though.

Why do you come here and try and have debates with us if you know nothing about Marxism?

Do you get off on pretending to be retarded or are you actually just retarded?

Why don't you actually read some leftist literature? I mean even if it's only so you can try and make criticisms that don't sound like schizophrenic ramblings.

I might have a normal red flag, but I support unification with my fellow comrades. M-Ls or Anarckkids. We are all stuck in this shitty system of Capitalism together. Might as well join together and topple it all down.

I might be an optimistic fool, but we can get a revolution started. We need to get those liberals since they will be easier to get on board with us if we do it right.

Also we need a propaganda machine going anyone got ideas?

Is there some kind of thing we can write? A book or something??

In this day in age I am not sure how many people actually reads books anymore. At least the younger generation.

So to get them we have to make more memes to spread consciousness. Or have some sort of anime attached to it otherwise they will pass on to this. Since sadly they have a really limited attention span and can only read things in 140 characters or less.

Now if you were being sarcastic is hard to tell on the internet.

As yes please continue to discredit me without actually refuting anything I've said. This is classic. I really am on leftypol.

A red banner will rise on every building by the end of the 21st century or we will all die.

In death, freedom.
In victory, freedom.

Don't give up. Feudalism didn't last, and neither will Capitalism.

No it's not.

What makes you so confident?

You have yet to make a coherent argument for us to respond to.

Never just a bunch of LARPers here.

Right now communism does seem impossible, and the revolution does not seem in any way inevitable. The power of the capitalist world order is unstoppable, and it seems that most people are either poor and insignificant or too entrenched in neoliberal ideology to understand the true nature of our situation. But I think people are capable of revolution. After the triumph of capitalism in the end of the twentieth century, it seemed to many as if we were entering into a golden age of humanity, and we were promised a bright and prosperous future. This is obviously not how things turned out. Capitalism's victory has brought it to its most destructive form. And while few are class-conscious many can see that things can't go on like this. There is a nervous anger emerging in people across the world, and this people are lashing out in a number of ways, whether it is mass murder, terrorism, fascism, self-destruction, suicide, misanthropy, and so on. Others are turning to bizarre escapes and lifestyles, and most ordinary people, especially younger ones, escape and exclude themselves further from reality, hiding away in virtual fantasies. I think that along with the destruction of the environment we should see the general mental anguish, bizarre anger and rampant escapism as a direct effect of the destructive nature of capitalism, and thus a massive boon to the revolutionary potential of the modern world.

After your hotpocket eating kike of a mod admits that /sp/ stole your repeating digits.

See? I could start telling you how a ship slowly dissapears to the horizon and that means the earth cannot be flat and so on, but you could read about it yourself IF YOU WANTED TO and I don't want to waste my time on you.

This never happened. Western propaganda.

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Great job buddy. Flawless logic.

Show me how or why you disagree with me you lazy slob.

This board is so low energy.

I don't need to make an argument. I make statements. I ask questions.

My statements could be disproved, my questions could be answered. But you people clearly don't know how to do either of those things.

Continue to be snide and chortle to yourselves about your superiority while doing nothing.

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Communism in theory is a wonderful idea. Communism in practice has done nothing but create horror and starvation everywhere it is tried. It is a false promise, and nothing more.

Marxist-Leninism in practice.

And how long did that last, red flag?

Ignore that, I read your tiny context-less statement wrong.

A variant of Marxist-Leninism will ALWAYS happen. Your knowledge of communism in practice sounds like it extends to Russia only.

Can you tell me at least five other places communism has been tried? I could tell you.

Communism is a fairy tale sold to fools so that they overthrow governments.

They do this to create a power vacuum to establish their own pawns in positions of power.

They're doing it everywhere. Even now. If you actually look into it, you'll find it to be true.

Who is "they" in this case, the communist? Or are you talking about "the jews?"

The leadership. Whoever funds it.

You could say "the jews," and you'd probably be right, and we could talk about that for hours and I could show you plenty of evidence. But that's neither here nor there.

What side are we supporting in Syria? What side did we support in WW2? What side did we support in Vietnam? What side did we support in the Korean war?

You need to learn more than what you were taught in school and make your own context. Think for yourself truly.

Sweet personal attack. I don't eat everything pol says whole sale and neither should you.

Only look for the truth. Are my statements factually true? Nothing matters beyond that.

Quit projecting.

In Communist utopia, I, as you know, a very authoritarian gal, will read all the children and cats of the land the book of Job. Straight from the bible we get the first great work of critique of ideology. I wouldn't start with Marx, Freud, or any of those modern critical lenses. Instead we get this wonderful notion in the noble truth of Christianity the recognition and acceptance which is the necessary condition for the fruitful cultivation of ethical conduct, mental clarity, and composure, and wisdom-compassion—for becoming otherwise: "Job Maintains His Integrity." Job’s properly ethical dignity lies in the way he persistently rejects the notion that his suffering can have any meaning, either punishment for his past sins or the trial of his faith, against the three theologians who bombard him with possible meanings–and, surprisingly, God takes his side at the end, claiming that every word Job spoke was true, while every word the three theologians spoke was false.

I'm not going to go through each example here, but i'll do a little. I'm assuming by "we" you're talking about the U.S. or the power elite/bourgeois in general.
In Syria the kurds are only getting support as a means to fight ISIS. Daesh is getting in the way of oil extraction as usual. Once they're out of the picture, the YPG is most likely going to be cleansed by the turks with reluctant support of the US (even without Nato support/membership, no one's going to get in their way).

Before WW2 british and american banks financed Hiter's rise to power. There are a variety of reasons for this, though most prominent is the desire to suppress the left. Take a look at "Conjuring Hitler," pretty good read. The USSR was only a temporary ally against a problem that got out of hand (the west practically let Hitler take Czechoslovakia).

I'm not even sure what you're saying about vietnam. The U.S. refused to go to a democratic assembly that would decide how Vietnam would be reunified. They were backing the French imperial interest in the region. They continued to fight for an illegitimate country ruled by a christian who persecuted the buddhists there.

I haven't read on Korea in a while.

Oh because they teach all about the great successes of socialism in school don't they? They teach you all about Marx and don't just slander his name over regimes they don't like without offering any actual substance, right? Not to mention the course on dialectics we all take in American schools!
I could go on, "Think for yourself?" haha no I get all my opinions from a billionaire in a blond wig thank you very much

The only revolution that's coming is the second wind of Not Socialism. You niggers are all going to the wall.

Sure as if the Holla Forumstard Larpers could get leave their chicken tendies and the computers long enough to do anything.

You need to go back Holla Forums

You need Jesus fam.

Because capitalism has never killed or starved anyone.

Maybe you should read it too.

Ah yes Communism in Patrice created horror and starvation let's ignore the terror and starvation caused by Capitalism.

What's that you don't believe you precious Capitalism would do such a thing. The Bread lines of Great Depression America. Know what caused that Laize Faire Capitalism. This is just an example of many time Porky has brought terror in the name of "Democracy" to fuel their Imperialist needs.

You literally don't know anything. The fed sets monetary policy, not fiscal. It has no effect on tax rates. There are many things wrong with the Fed, and it does contribute to the national debt through fantasy money bond purchases, but it mediates that through cellar-floor interest rates. We should be borrowing, and now, to increase productivity.

Read a book! I mean it. Reading is enjoyable.

I retract my reading a book statement upon realization that nothing I know about the Fed comes from books, but rather daily newspapers.

Also, "read a book" is a lame rebuttal, and we are all remiss in using it. It contributes nothing towards the construction of socialism, does not convince our interlocutor, and actively undermines our credibility.

Reviewing my above post, I realized I have fallen into a rhetorical trap that many on this board are in. It's a symptom of the fetishization on the left of knowledge. Telling a challenger to read a book is guarding a hoard of knowledge. Just like capital's propensity to being hoarded, and the attendant troubles that come with it, a hoard of knowledge is also not productive.

We can do better. I think we're right. It's incumbent upon us to impress that fact upon others.

well put

Never, even if there was one. And do you know why? Look at the flags on this board and everywhere else with communist communities. It is always "muh unique infallible brand of communism". I for example would be more than happy to purge every Trotskike, "well read intellectuals" (the worst and most ineffective cancer for communism that will never achieve revolution), or anarchos.

ONE DIRECTION
INSURRECTION

You already won that's what you morons never got.

You guys still don't get it even when we tell you what you did wrong. It was nothing more than a game of endurance and the revolutionary attitude of the left for the past 60 years killed any hopes you have left. Anyone that followed out what happened in the 60's could tell you it was just a matter of time before it came crashing down and you guys started eating each other. You created an abomination, but a mentally draining one had you kept things how they were in the 90's. That'll forever be your glory decade in the future when people look back.

This and that image are extremely intellectually dishonest and the reason why nobody takes us seriously. The Great Depression was caused extremely complex with causes ranging from a multitude of reasons and still debated to this very day by economists but none not even from communist/socialist scholars themselves blame laize faire capitalism for the causes of the depression. Next that image from the beginning is retarded because the idea that the the hundreds of millions of dead indigenous peoples had a capitalist motivation is idiotic. The country itself was strongly imperialist for the sake of imperialism and the means of production was mostly if not entirely owned by the crown. It would make more sense to blame monarchy and jingoism than capitalism.

Stop making us look stupid.

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Here, read 3 google links.

google.com/?ion=1&espv=2#q=fractional reserve banking

google.com/?ion=1&espv=2#q=how does the fed create money

google.com/?ion=1&espv=2#q=U.S. Treasury securities

investopedia.com/articles/economics/12/fed-money-debt-taxes.asp

youtube.com/watch?v=mII9NZ8MMVM

Here's a nice cartoon to explain it if you don't actually like reading like you say you do.

Here's a shorter one that just explains Fractional Reserve banking.
youtube.com/watch?v=JobaR9LLcfA

I have this this theory based on the concept of "6 degrees of Kevin Bacon", that people don't understand concepts that take more than three separate thoughts.

Those are good links, and show that you have greater grasp of the subject than I gave you credit for. But I fail to see the direct link between taxes and the Fed's policies.

I do understand the link you're seeing though. Tell me if I'm wrong, but the thrust of your argument is that with increasing debt obligations (taken on by Treasury securities and of course also QE) taxpayers will see their tax bills go up. I could see that happening if interest rates go up. But take a look at debt interest rates right now:
treasurydirect.gov/govt/rates/pd/avg/2016/2016_07.htm

Debt as a percentage of GDP rising is concerning, but I think the idea that the taxpayers alone shoulder the burden of debt is misleading, and the reason is a question of scale. The United States has unprecedented military and economic power, and its history of debt payment makes US debt the most risk free investment in the world. Ironically, interest rates falling could hurt us because it could suppress investment in debt. It wouldn't be a terrible thing if it went up.

Then again, falling interest rates could also produce an outcome where US bonds yield negative returns, which would eliminate some debt, but would also be a problem because it was vitiate investment potential.

We remember Spain, we remember the Hitler Stalin pact. Fuck Stalin.

When did Lenin punch a clock?

Until you know how to talk to workers and drop the idea of a bloody purge you won't be able to sell communism. especially when people remember all the stupid and incompetent shit the comies did. concentration of power is stupid. Stalin and Hitler are tied for most incompetent fuckhead. Like watching drunks play axis and allies.

What is misleading about it? In the end all debts must be paid.

Our government is taking out massive loans every year and leftist politics demand this kind of crazy spending for their social welfare programs. Cuckservatives demand this kind of funding to funnel money into the military industrial complex they own.

Our country will be grabassed by special interests to the point of death or revolution. Once everyone wants a piece of that sweet infinite money, it's game over over the course of 100 years.

The people who put the system in place wont even be alive for the crash, the irresponsible fucks.

Andrew Jackson didn't fight these people to his grave for no reason.

They create wealth from nothing and then buy it wholesale with nothing when our money is worthless.

Please watch the videos. We are fucked user. This isn't the first time this has happened.

And it's always jews, because usury is not a sin to them, but it is to Christians.

Accurate

Capitalism has been collapsing for the last 10 years not just economically, but culturally. The invisible hand of cultural capitalism has begun to sell extremist hatred as a desperate attempt to sustain itself. Hatred is the new mass-produced product sold to try to cover up the glaring emptiness of capitalism and the magnitude of its failures. The alt-right, the Trump insanity, and SJW identity politics is not a sign of strength, but of weakness.

The revolution looks like this: capitalistic and fascistic propaganda reaches manic heights. The delusion crumbles and what follows is a great disillusionment: the masses can see the insanity in the world around them that most of us here perceive and have lived. Mediaic control by capitalism is no longer effective. The masses are exposed to the reality of their situation. There will be despair, sorrow, and confusion. It will be a great psychological depression. Even porky won't be immune.

Out of this low will come a new phase, that of problem-solving. Disillusionment leads to skepticism, and that to criticism. Bullshitting, propaganda, scapegoating, and any other nonsense won't work. Only reason and human experience will be effective. Humanity in general and the Western world in particular will undertake an enormous project to create a sane and just society using every available intellectual and scientific resource it can. It will be a war on insanity, on the collective madness we call capitalism.

This process is happening now, the next few years will be a period of profound change.

As a somewhat younger tovarisch, I agree. It's a shame, though.

Preach, user. Preach.

You faggots have not a single idea on how fucked we are, the LEFT IS DEAD and will never come back in its image as the idealogies of the 20th century.Capitalism is involving to a more honest system of Capitalism with asion values with its bright example of China and Singapore. And the people will praise this and want this, populism is rising at rapid rate and the people will demand their upcoming oppresion in a global age of fascism.

20th Century Socialism is OVER and you fucking faggots wont realize this cause all of you still beleave in the fantasy of the revolution that will never come.
youtu.be/uKto5mv5SkY?t=34m

And with the current situation i will post some stuff about Anarcho-nihilism as this is the only position you can have in today's world domination of honest authoritarian capitalism.

All these sub-chapters are from the book, Blessed is the Flame.

Anarcho-nihilism
A nihilist is a person who does not bow down to any authority, who does not accept any Principle on faith, however much that principle may be revered. –Ivan Turgenev

The anarcho-nihilist[11] position is essentially that we are fucked. That the current manifestation of human society (civilization, leviathan, industrial society, global capitalism, whatever) is beyond salvation, and so our response to it should be one of unmitigated hostility. There are no demands to be made, no utopic visions to be upheld, no political programs to be followed—the path of resistance is one of pure negation. In short, "that conditions in the social organization are so bad as to make destruction desirable for its own sake independent of any constructive program or possibility." [12]

Aragorn! traces the history of nihilism to 19th century Russia, where the "suffocating" environment of Tsarism created a breeding ground for a purely negative strain of socialism. What started as a Philosophical rejection of conventional morality and aesthetics laid the groundwork for a youth-driven counter-culture of hedonism, communalism, and proto-hipster fashion.[13] This eventually birthed a revolutionary force that sought the absolute destruction of "state traditions, social order, and classes in Russia", not as part of a program for social change, but based on a "deeply held belief that destruction was worthwhile for its own sake".[14] Though Russian nihilism was eventually squashed by the state, the ideas spread and have recently seen a resurgence within anarchist currents. After two centuries of failed revolutions, nihilism has perhaps become even more disinterested in conventional socialist programs and radical milieus. It has also been armed with decades of anarchist and post-structuralist theory that have helped to cultivate its critiques of domination, meta-narratives, teleological structures, gender, and civilization as a whole. Streams of communiques from anarcho-nihilist groups detailing incendiary actions have been hacked by a surge of publications exploring nihilist approaches to the problem of domination in today's world, both of which have led to (occasionally useful) lines of dialogue between nihilists and other anarchists. Though some strains of nihilism certainly arrive at a place of paralysis, the strain that collides with anarchism tends to be one of explosive creativity and relentless action. On the path of negation, anarcho-nihilism spurns positive programs for social change, challenges dominant modes of time, and discovers a tactical freedom by disregarding inherited moralities and political traditions, among other positions.

Pure Negation
The passion for destruction is a creative passion, too! —Mikhail Bakunin
It is ridiculous to even contemplate co-existing with this fascist apparatus. It all has to be destroyed to start afresh. We will taste the fruits from the trees we've grown ourselves in the ashes of their empire. —Anonymous, Incitement to Burn

The call from Bakunin to embrace the destructive urge forms the backbone of both anarchist and anarcho-nihilist thought. The latter takes this axiom and runs with it, arguing that in the face of global systems of domination our sole aim should he to destroy all that constitutes those systems. This stands in direct contrast to other anarchist tendencies that place at least some emphasis on "positive programs"—aspirations to construct something ideal in the present world or to craft plans in preparation for the downfall of the current system. Anarcho-nihilism understands the positive program as "one that confuses desire with reality and extends that confusion into the future" by either making promises about what a revolutionary future might hold, or attempting to bring those conditions about from within the existing order.[26] Such positive aspirations offer nothing more than a dangling carrot for us to pursue in situation in which the stick, string, and prize all a need to be destroyed. The example of those living under Nazi rule illustrates a situation in which, for those deemed Ballastexistenzen, positive visions were unfathomable: establishing long-term projects or alternative infrastructure would be ludicrous, except to the extent that they facilitated the destruction of the existing order. So long as Hitler reigned, no Jewish commune would be tolerated, no anarchist child-care collective could ever hope to thrive. To be immersed in a social order as violent and controlling as Nazi Germany warranted a reaction of absolute hostility, attacks aimed at every level of society—pure negation. So too does anarcho-nihilism understand the existing order of today as without potential for a positive agenda. Whatever we build within its bounds will be co-opted, destroyed, or turned against us: "We understand that only when all that remains of the dominant techno-industrial-capitalist system is smouldering ruins, is it feasible to ask what next?"[27] According to this line of thought, our situation today is similar to the Lagers to the extent that positive projects, attempts to create a new world in the shell of the old, are simply out of place. Aragorn! writes: "Nihilism states that it is not useful to talk about the society you 'hold in your stomach', the things you would do 'if only you got power'. . .What is useful is the negation of the existing world.'[28] Similarly, imprisoned members of the CCF write:

We anarcho-nihilists …don't talk about `transformation of social relations' towards a more liberated view, we promulgate their total destruction and absolute annihilation. Only through total destruction of the current world of power… will it he possible to build something new. The deeper we destroy, the more freely will we be able to build.[29]

The visions that rebels tend to entertain about what life will be like After The Revolution are not only unproductive, they are dangerous because they presume that a unified vision of life is desirable. Such forward-looking conversations attempt to herd an infinite spectrum of possibilities onto an ideal anarchist path. The CCF write:

Very often, even in anarchist circles, the future organization of 'anarchist' society is discussed along with the role of work, self-management of the means of production, direct democracy, etc. According to us, this kind of debate and proposal looks like the construction of a dam that tries to control the impetus of the abundant stream of Anarchy. [30]

Even resisters in the concentration camps sometimes concerned themselves with this kind of political fantasizing: In Buchenwald, for instance, three underground political organizations banded together in 1944 to plan out the future governance of Germany, at a time when other organizations in the camp were focused on saving lives and staging coordinated resistance. [31] Nihilism urges us to consider the fact that such forward planning is simply unnecessary and that it obfuscates our more urgent goal of negation: "There's no need to know what's happening tomorrow to destroy a today that makes you bleed." [32]

From the foundation of this critique, nihilism identifies a common trap experienced by anarchists: the magnetic compulsion to identify ourselves positively within society even though we strive for its destruction. In my local context, this often looks like anarchists responding to critics of property destruction with reminders of all that we contribute to society. (when we are not rioting, we are community organizers, food not bombs chefs, musicians, etc.).

Negation, however, is justified by the existence of a ruling order, not by our credentials as activists. Our riots are justified not because we contribute, but because we exist under the heel of a monstrous society. Positive projects are the means of surviving within that order; negation is the project of destroying it completely. As Alejandro de Acosta reminds us, we must not he tempted to "frame destructive action as having any particular goal beyond destruction of the existent."[33] Theden too rails against this tendency, insisting that we have nothing to gain from hiding our true intentions:

We understand destruction to be necessary and we desire it in abundance. We have nothing to gain through shame or lack of confidence in these desires. This world… must he annihilated in every instance, all once. To shy away from this task, to assure our enemies of our good intentions, is the most crass dishonesty. [34]

When we call ourselves anarchists, or even "anti-capitalists," we are implying a commitment to the destruction of systems of domination—why do we so often shy away from this? Nihilism unabashedly embraces negation as being at the core of such positions.

Jouissance
Despite its gloomy connotations, the commitment to pure negation finds its most interesting manifestations as a joyful, creative, and limitless project. Most notably, Baeden utilizes the French word jouissance,[35] which directly translates to "enjoyment," but takes on a variety of connotations related to "uncivilized desire," those aspects of our existence which "escape representation," a "shattering of identity and law," and that which "shatters our subjective enslavement to capitalist civilization." [36] Jouissance is an ecstatic energy, felt but never captured, that pushes us away from any form of domination, representation, or restraint, and compels us towards fierce wildness and unmitigated recalcitrance. It is "the process that momentarily sets us free from our fear of death" and which manifests as a "blissful enjoyment of the present," or a "joy which we cannot name." [37] Jouissance is the richness of life evoked by resistance, the spirit that allowed Maria Jakobovics to continue her acts of sabotage despite the sting of the club or the threat of the noose, and the spirit that perhaps allows many of us to lead lives of resistance in absolutely overwhelming circumstances. It is the visceral experience of negation as ecstatic liberation.

Although the spirit of jouissance animates many anarchist texts, nihilism seems to approach it with the most naked embrace; for many nihilists, jouissance is the core of anarchism. Without. expectations of the world to come, without deference to moral code, and without adherence to a right: way to do things, nihilism embraces the act of resistance as a goal in itself. Through this lens, the joy of pissing in a Nazi rocket cannot easily be measured against its risks or results—in jouissance, we find a richness of life unattainable under the status quo. Without using the word explicitly, some imprisoned members of the CCF describe jouissance perfectly: "Neither victory nor defeat is important, but only the beautiful shining of our eyes in combat."[38] This emphasis on the act, without attachment to its outcomes, is one of the aspects of nihilism that has made it such a puzzling force for other anarchists. Critics of nihilism see this sort of emphasis on jouissance and negation as simply a form of indulgent retreat into the realm of personal experience, "because it hurts too much to hope for the improbable, to imagine a future we can't believe in."[39] While this critique has some merit, I think it largely misses the strength of the nihilist position and the beauty of jouissance. Whatever we may chose to do with it, however strategic, ambitious, or optimistic we may feel, our understanding of why we resist can still be rooted in a place of jouissance. I think the nihilist position leaves space for victories, while still recognizing that our capacity to win is quite different from our commitment to liberatory action. Even when run out of optimistic rhetoric and inspiring stories, our lives can still be oriented against the grain of society. Even from a place of utter hopelessness, we can still find the jouissance in our bodies to attack, Once again, the CCF insist that:

What really counts is the strength we feel every time we don't bow our heads, every time we destroy the false idols of civilization, every time our eyes meet those of our comrades along illegal paths, every time that our hands set fire to the symbols of Power. In those moments we don't ask ourselves: 'Will we win? Will we lose?' In those moments we just fight.[40]

Jouissance is that which animates resistance for its own sake so that even if we have no future, can still find life today.

Great taste, too much text

You already have the intellectuals. That's part of the problem. Your message, aside from being too diffuse, is too high-falutin and removed from people's daily lives. Chuck in the hostility to nationalism and tradition and you've put off most of what should be the base of support.

I will post a whole chapter here cause its an important one.

SPONTANEOUS RESISTANCE & TIME
Do you know how one says 'never' in camp slang? 'Morgen fruh', tomorrow morning. — Primo Levi
Nihilism allows for the possibility that there is no future. —Aragorn!
One of the connections that jumped out at me early on in my research was a continuous reference to time in both anarcho-nihilist and holocaust literature. While Haftlinge describe horrific experiences of the obliteration of time, nihilists often call for unmitigated attacks against time itself (No Future has become something of a dark motto[1] ). This section will set out to explore this connection and to understand what is meant by the anarcho-nihilist ambition to ''stop time."[2] The concept of 'futurity,' the sense that one has a future under the existing order, threads these subjects together and provokes a discussion about the radical possibilities of chronological rupture. Those who experienced a complete rupture of futurity in the camps (e.g. realized what the chimneys were for gave up on allied liberation, etc.) often sunk into a grim and catatonic state, but in some instances they reacted ferociousily. Though the most well-known acts of physical resistance against the Nazis were planned and coordinated actions, there were also countless unplanned attacks that plagued the Nazi thirst for order and obedience. Of the stories that have been passed down to us. scant details survive. Some of these stories are patched together from multiple, partial witnesses, while others are merely inferred from the silences they created. These act of spontaneous resistance resonate deeply with anarcho-nihilism, for nowhere else does the rallying cry of No Future apply as well as to those who responded to utterly hopeless situations with acts of fierce abandon. Inmates who physically confronted their oppressors were not engaged in a "rational political struggle of a better future," but rather understood the futility of their situations and chose to fight back regardless.[3] These moments can help us to understand what is at stake in our rethinking of time and what it might mean for us to sever ourselves from oppressive chronological modes,

Enjoy the pictures but ignore the text, nobody reads here so dont be ashamed.

I want to live in Holla Forumss fantasy world.

well, let's say there's two major systems: capitalism and communism.
let's say one works better than the other.
does that mean necessarily that the better system will be perfect?

it's not capitalism that has been collapsing.
it's the human spirit.
the people need better values if we're to create a society that's healthy for us.
the people invest in what they value.

fascism is about unification.
the more mutually exclusive demographics there are, the more difficult it is to unify. unification is about homogeneity.
populism is about empowering the people: actualizing their potential via virtue ethics and other means. no matter the system, if this is lacking, society will crumble.

i'm not sure how you guys didn't expect this.
people don't want communism so if the left wants it, it has to force them by puppeteering whoever is to be considered the proletariat, whose villian is whoever is to be considered the bourgeois.

there will be distribution of wealth to some extent, as it makes sense in many cases.
also, if you want power for the people, you need to consider decentralization. it doesn't have to be, nor should it be, one giant commie state.

Spontaneous Resistance in the Lagers
We are entering the time of wordless revolts, the time of illogical revolts, which must in turn be massacred. —Silence and Beyond

In Treblinka, on August 16, 1942, When a young Jewish man wasn't- permitted to say goodbye to his mother, he wrestled a knife from a Ukrainian guard and stabbed him. The man and everyone else on his transport was shot. [4] On September 11, 1942, after watching his wife and child be selected for the gas chambers in Treblinka, Meir Berliner attacked an ss man with a knife, stabbing him to death and leaving the knife protruding from his back. Berliner and over a hundred of his fellow inmates were "cruelly killed.[5] In 1942, as fifteen hundred Polish Jews were being escorted off a train at Auschwitz, a Jewish Capo named Morris discreetly informed some of them that they were being led to their death. Unrest Spread throughout the crowd and eventually turned into an attack against the ss guards. Forty members of Morris's Kommamio joined in the fight. The entire transport and Kommando were killed. [6]

On October 17, 1944, Hanna Levy-Hass, an inmate of Bergen-Belsen whose diary survived the war, recorded that her camp was put on severe lockdown and that rumors had circulated about a women's rebellion in the neighboring camp. The only evidence of this rebellion for Levy Hass was the cessation of all regular camp activity and the glow of the crematorium, which operated nonstop throughout the night.[7] on the night of February 1, 1945, a group of Russian and British Pows, as well as nineteen Luxembourg policemen who refused to join the ss, rebelled as they were being led out of Sachsenhausen to be executed in a surrounding forest. One inmate managed to wrestle a gun away from a guard and fatally shoot him. All of the inmates were subsequently killed by ss machine gun fire.[8] In late 1942. at Trehlinka, a transport of around two thousand Jews refused to enter the gas chamber. Those who yelled out invocations of resistance wer ebeaten, but the call was heard and no one budged. At one point some of them rushed the ss and fighting with knives and bottles, injured three guards. Some- how during this scuffle, a hand grenade exploded that also injured a guard. The entire transport was shot.[9] Twice in 1943 the train station at Sobibor saw Spotaneous rebellions by inmates, who fought with stones, pots, and bottles against armed guards; one of these scuffles saw several guards injured. In both cases, all inmates involved were killed.[10] Also in Sobibor, Richard Rashke informs us that a group of women (many of whom held children) realized that they weren't being taken to a normal shower and became unruly, attacking the guards with bare hands. The SS sprayed them with machine guns. Those they missed were stuffed into the gas chambers.[11]

Filip Muller tells a deeply disturbing story of a small group of Jewish families who, after hiding in dug outs in southern Poland for four months, were discovered and brought to Birkenau to be killed. As in many other stories, one mother dedicated her final moments to comforting her infant daughter, even as they were led to a wall to be shot by a Nazi named Voss. Muller watched as the two performed a macabre dance: Voss circling trying to figure out where best to shoot the infant, while the mother reflexively turned to keep her daughter away from the barrel of the gun. Eventually Voss grew frustrated and shot the child three times. As he turned his gun on the mother, "she lost all self-control and flung her daughter straight at her murderer's head.[12] Stunned, Voss wiped the blood off of his face and dropped his gun, clearly unable to carry on. Another guard quickly took over and finished the job. Marla Zimetbaum, who became a well known name in Birkenau for her selfless organizing in the camp and for her spectacular escape with a Polish lover, cemented her legendary status when, after being captured and brought back to the camp, she used her last moments under the gallows to defy the Nazis: Before the ss could put the noose around her neck, she cut her own vein with a small razor and, "in the presence of all her fellow inmates, hit an ss man in the face with her bleeding hand."[13] Olga Lengyel, who worked covertly during her time in Birkenau smuggling parcels for a resistance organization, has a different recollection of what is undoubtedly the same incident. She recalls that a woman had escaped with her Polish lover using stolen SS uniforms, but was recaptured and brought back to the camp. When the Nazis tried to parade her around the camp (wearing a placard labeling her as an escapee) as part of her punishment, she resisted and was beaten severely, though was able to land at least one punch on a guards face. In addition to this astonsihing show of defiance Lengyel recalls that as the woman near-lifeless body was being loaded onto a truck to be taken to the gas chambers, she yelled: "Courage friends! They will pay! Liberation is nearr'' [14]

On October 23 1943, seventeen hundred jews transported from Warsaw to Auschwitz were escorted to the gas chambers. When about two-thirds of them had already been taken into the chamber, a rebellion broke out among the remaining several hundred who were in the undressing room. Of what unfolded only foggy, sometimes contradictory details survive: four armed ss officers entered the undressing room, one of them was disarmed by a woman and fatally shot, the other inmates were spurred to action. They cut the electric wires and attacked the other guards, a shootout ensued between the guards at the door and the inmates, and ultimately all of the remaining inmates were led out and shot.[15] In one version of this story, the woman was an actress named Katerina Horowitzova, and she retaliated after ss man Josef Schillinger told her to remove her bra: "she whipped off her garment and startled him by hitting him with it in his eyes. While he was blinded by pain, she grabbed his revolver and shot him and another guard.[16] In another version, her retaliation came after Schillinger told her to dance naked.[17] In another, the woman was named Franceska Mann, and she retaliated when Schillinger snatched the bra off of her body.[18] In yet another telling, the woman was an unnamed dancer who intentionally seduced the SS men while she was undressing, and while they ogled her she smashed one of them in the forehead with her high heel and then disarmed and shot Schillinger and one other guard.[19], The incident "gave rise to legends" and reminded inmates that ss men "were also mortal."[20] Rumors about this rebellion quickly spread throughout the camp and inspired another act of resistance later that same day, of which even less is known. The sole witness to this incident was privy only to the aftermath: the sight of strewn corpses in front of crematorium 4 The fact that the bodies were still clothed implies that a group of inmates hadn't allowed themselves to be taken into the undressing room and were massacred. [21]

Lager-time, Despondency, and Timelessness
One day of insurrection is worth a thousand centuries of normality —Wolves of Solidarity, Pacific column.

Each of these moments reflects a shattering of illusion, a fierce visceral reaction to oppression, a desperate act in a tottaly hopeless situation. Liberation in these moments was not necessarily a material gain, but a fleeting lived experience; an existential reorientation from a relationship of domination to one of recalcitrance. Pure juissance. Some of these attacks resonade widely outside of their perimeter and punctured holes in the Nazi facade of invulnerability, perhaps even inspiring others to fight back. Other attacks simply dissipated in a hail of gunfire. Regardless, each of them seem to defy any notion of hope or strategy, and the very fact that each story ends with a mass slaughter gestures towards a spirit of resistance that prioritized lived revolt over futurity. In the concentration universe as in the nihilist framework, conceptions of time become extremely important. How we understand time, its movement, and our place within it, shapes how we understand the existing order and the potentials for resistance. While some anarchists have attempted to imagine "how free people have conceived of different shapes of time itself," here we will solely be concerned with how oppressive modes of time are ruptured.[22] For Haftlinge, this rupture involved breaking free from three states of chronological awareness: despondency, futurity, and a paralyzing suspension in the present. For anarcho-nihilists, focus has centered largely on breaking free from progressive conceptions of time and false senses of futurity. In both realms, we find an insurrectionary potential that exists Outside of dominant modes of time. Wahter Benjamin's concept of "messianic time" will offer us a vocabulary to describe this transgression.

We begin in the concentration camps, where experiences of time were precarious and fraught with implications. In one sense, inmates were beckoned towards what we will call "Lager-time," which is the series of hoops and tribulations through which Nazis created the illusion of futurity, the promise of survival best encapsulated in the Auschwitz slogan "Freedom Through Work." People were told that they were being taken to Sweden, but stepped out of the trains into Auschwitz; they were told they were being taken for delousing, but never left the crematorium; they were told that work would set them free, but they were literally worked to death. This ongoing promise of futurity kept many inmates docile in a system that ultimately produced only two things—German wealth and corpses. While the shattering of Lager-time was seemingly the first step to resistance, such a rupture did not necessarily carry insurgent possibilities. For many, the abandonment of futurity simply meant despondency; many souls were broken when the illusion of Lager-time was peeled back to reveal an assembly life of death. For countless inmates the alternative to futurity was the suicidal allure of the electric fence, which offered an immediate escape from the horror of despondency. Others experienced a complete disintegration of the mind and body. Such living-dead creatures, those whose hearts still beat but for whom death was a foregone conclusion, even had a name within the camps: Muselmann.[23] While the Nazis actively fostered a myth of futurity through work and obedience, they simultaneously created the conditions of hopelessness, which for some was akin to death. For those who did not succumb to despair, the key to survival lay within the tension between Lager-time and suicidal despondency. Throughout holocaust memoirs, there is a sense of total immersion in the present, something we will call "suspension." This experience involved the violent eradication of past and future, resulting in an unblinking commitment to survival in the present moment. From the Warsaw ghetto we hear: "Everything taking place outside the Ghetto walls became more and more foggy, distant, strange. Only the present day really mattered."[24] From Auschwitz:

Why worry oneself trying to read into the future when no action, no word of ours could have the minimum influence?… our wisdom lay in 'not trying to understand,' not imagining the future, not tormenting ourselves as to how and when it would all be over; not asking others or ourselves any questions.[25]

Survival meant forgetting about your past life, abandoning thoughts of future liberation, and sinking deeply into the eternal present: "Survival meant thinking of today."[26] In her diary from Bergen-Belsen, Hannah Levy-Hass reflects on her inability to remember anything about her life before the camps: "The horror that surrounds us is so great that the brain becomes paralyzed and completely incapable of reacting to anything that doesn't stem directly from the nightmare we, are presently living through and this is constantly before our eyes."[27] Soma Morgenstern, writing on the psychological impacts of the Lagers, concludes that the "key issue was the tyranny of the present a tyranny that arose from the total uncertainty about the future and led to a destruction of 'the softest tissue of life': memory." [28] This experience of suspension, a total immersion in the present moment, seemed to be the key to enduring the horrors of everyday life. In this state of suspension, however, resistance was still an impossibility

Imagine yourself walking a tight rope five hundred feet in the air with a powerful strobe light held in front of your face. Are you worried about the future? Try remembering the past. Can you waste seconds thinking about the person who put you in this situation or how you might fight back against them? To survive even a moment in such a situation would require an intense, unblinking focus on the immediate present. This is the spell of suspension. This is how people endured the camps. That being said, a few managed to break this spell and enter into something much more fierce, as exemplified by the stories above. For those Haftlinge who saw their deaths as a foregone conclusion, who had already seen their cities raided, their families gassed, and their culture obliterated, retaliation against the Nazi regime became the only experience left. Rose Meth, one of the women who assisted in the Auschwitz uprising, speaks to this liberatory space when she reflects on her incredibly risky decision to smuggle gunpowder out of a munitions factory: "Of course I agreed right away because it gave me a way to fight back. I felt very good about it, and I didn't care about the danger."[29] Though some might simply read this as bravery, in this context we can perhaps read it as an expression of jouissance, and perhaps even glimpse the experience of someone who inhabited an entirely different chronological mode. Rose was not holding onto hope for, the future or sinking into despair nor was she suspended in the "tyranny of the present" - from the spectrum of despondency, suspension, and futurity, a rupture forms and reveals a space of insurrectionary possibilities, which Walter Benjamin calls "messianic time." [30] Before expanding on this idea, we will first explore the anarcho-nihilist critique of progressivism and reproductive futurity.

Anarcho-Nihilism: Progressivism, and Futurity
The reality is that the future never comes, but is rather the ideological justification for the suppression of our desires and revolutionary change today. Tomorrow becomes just the romantic notion of accepting subjugation today. –Bryan Hill

Anarcho-nihilism is interested in the extent to which severing ourselves from dominant modes of time can open up incendiary possibilities. This involves dispelling the myth of progressivism, the idea that history is a linear story of progress, as well as the myth of reproductive futurity, the idea that what is best for future generations is the continuance of the existing order. Because of the way these ideologies frame our relationship to time, they both prevent meaningful opportunities for negation now.

The first issue of Baden takes as one of its central concerns a critique of progressivism; that is, the conception of time that frames history as a narrative of progress (i.e. things are getting better over time and we are rapidly moving towards a brighter future). We feel this progress in our bodies as the excitement of technological advancement and architectural achievements; we embrace it as we watch our petitions and protests and riots get bigger and bigger; we fall victim to it every time we express "amazement that the [terrible] things we are experiencing are still possible" in the 21st century.[31] Many anarcho-nihilist thinkers point towards Marxism as the source of progressivism in anarchist thought. The chronology offered by Marxism depicts the present moment as part of a steady historical progression from feudalism to socialism (al-beit with a couple terrifyiag pit stops along the way). Aragorn! writes:

The conception of history that came out of the Marxist tradition (dialectical mate-rialism) dictated that the transformation of society would pass through capitalism… to transform into socialism and eventually communism. This meant that progressivism was embedded within this (the dominant) branch of socialism. [32]

The myth that we are somehow moving forward forms the backbone of the socialist tradition. Many anarchists have argued that this teleological framework is both ludicrous in its prophetic optimism,and stifling in its programmatic assertions (i.e. that our job is to find ways to advance society into a state of socialism). The progress of society is an illusion created by clever historians and propagandists, and the idea that somehow this historical train is locked into a track that leads to our shared liberation is both intoxicating and toxic. The "progress of society" might be better described as the "evolution of systems of power," and as Baeden reminds us: "any progressive development can only mean a more sophisticated system of misery and exploitation."[33] In its refusal of Marxist teleology, Beaden takes up the ideas of Walter Benjamin to call for an attack on this kind of progressivism: "Marx says that revolutions are the locomotive of world history. But perhaps it is quite otherwise. Perhaps revolutions are an attempt by the passengers on this train… to activate the emergency break."[34] Anarcho-nihilism replaces the program of historical acceleration with one of negation. Rather than moving ourselves quickly along the train tracks of history towards a socialist utopia, we must derail the train and rupture history altogether.

anarch nihilist please slow down i cant fap right now

Like the trains bound for Auschwitz, this movement of history is heading nowhere good and needs to be sabotaged at every possible turn. Whereas once this progressivism was the domain of bright eyed revolutionaries, capitalism has seized the tradition, meaning that we are now assaulted with it from all angles whether through austerity and democratic participation or through patient and restrained "movement building," we are constantly being asked to tolerate intolerable conditions today in order to work towards a brighter future. Using Lee Edelman's queer theory text No Future as a frame-work, Beaden sets out to explore how progressivism is used by mainstream society to keep us attached to the existing order. They argue that futurity is ubiquitously packaged with the image of The Child, the ultimate symbol of our commitment to the future— we must work now, we must compromise now, we must be patient now, in order to secure the well being of the next generation. The unspoken and dubious premise of this reasoning is that what is best for future generations is the preservation of the existing order. Through this lens, the widely-felt social pressure to have children is actually an obligation to reproduce society and capitalism. The term "reproductive futurity" refers to the way in which the very concept of reproduction becomes imbued with a commitment to the existing order. Beaden writes: "The ideology of reproductive futurism ensures the sacrifice of all vital energy for the pure abstraction of the idealized continuation of society."[35] Because this emphasis on securing a future for The Child prevents us from negating our present conditions, Baeden asks us to sever once and for all our attachment to reproductive futurity. The futures that are being dangled in front of our faces are a mirage that will continuously retreat as we move closer, and the cute, sacred image of The Child is often what prevents us from questioning that mirage. Instead, nihilism asks us to cut ourselves from any attachment to reproductive futurity and instead "fight, hopeless, to tear our lives away from that expanding horizon and to erupt with wild enjoyment now."[36] What nihilism glimpses outside of progressivism and reproductive futurity is perhaps similar to what Rose Meth saw when she chose to resist despite a lack of hope: the insurrectionary mode of messianic time.

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What is to be gained by shattering the progressive conception of time or by abandoning our attachment to futurity? How can we conceive of the chronological mode embodied by those inmates who escaped Lager-time, despair, and suspension, and fought back? Baeden once again turns to Benjamin and the concept of messianic time, which is an "irrational now-time," an "interruption of linear time," and which exists as "splinters diffused through the empty fabric of capitalist time."[37] As a rupture from oppressive chronological modes, it contains "unlimited .possibilities" and "threatens to interrupt the continuum of history."[38] The Invisible Committee [39], also taking inspiration from Benjamin, applies this concept to resistance generally: "Every attempt to block the global system, every movement, every revolt, every uprising should be seen as a vertical attempt to stop time. [40] Here we might remember those rebels who spent the first evening of the July revolution of 1830 shooting out clock towers in Paris [41], or the (semi-mythical) anarchist Biofilo Panclasta who, in the final days of his life, is said to have escaped from an old folks' home and climbed to the top of a clock tower where he "arrested the movement of the clock's hands, which so carefully marked the passage of time."[42] When the monotonous rhythms of society's clocks have ceased and the death march of progress has been brought to a halt, messianic time is the space where new forms of life can be birthed. The CCF looks for this historical rupture in the moment of an attack against a system, and in the precious moments afterwards, before the system has turned its switches back on (e.g. after the riot, before the cleanup); these moments of "unstuck time" are where our desires for the impossible come to the surface, and "in these holes, negations against this world can be born."[43] This project of stopping time is an attempt to break free from the ideologies of progressivism and the spell of reproductive futurity, and to enter into combat with the existing order. Those in the camps who spontaneously fought back knowing that death would be the immediate consequence erupted out of oppressive, paralyzing, and illusory concepts of time, and entered into this space of messianic time.

Here I do not mean to argue that those who fought back in the Lagers experienced some mystical chronological transcendence that granted them supernatural bravery. Rather, I am pointing towards the possibilities that exist when we confront our own futurelessness and find the will to act: When we don't believe the lies about where we're heading, when we don't sink into absolute despair about how fucked we are, and when we don't just keep our heads down and think about the present moment—when we step out of that debilitating sequence and act against the existing order, no matter. the odds. This often means confronting death, imprisonment, alienation, and a variety of other dangers. For the anarcho-nihilists it also means opening oneself up to new possibilities of being alive. These cries to stop time and to discover jouissance are essentially asking us to sever any attachments we have to the existing order, and to position ourselves outside of and against its progress. So long as Haftlinge saw a future for themselves in the camps, or remained suspended in the present moment, or gave up on living completely, the Nazis would never have to deal with a moment of defiance. By shattering those chronological modes, some inmates broke with the rhythms of the camp and carved out a different fabric of time. Similarly, so long as we believe that this society is making progress, and so long as we can glimpse a future for ourselves within it or a future for our children, we will remain in some way wed to it., When anarcho-nihilism urges us to abandon those chronological modes, it is in essence asking us to sever all ties to the continuation of society and work instead to negate its existence. In this rupture of time we find a richness of life un-imaginable within the existing order. Messianic time is the chronological awareness in which jouissance can flourish, for rather than deferring our rage to the future we can finally realize that now is the time we've been waiting for.

I wish i could post the whole book but fucking n1x is to slow with digitalizing the other half of the book. That loser cant even type over half a book in a vew days.

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the revival of the old left

Come on. Academia is rife with Marxists or sympathizers. Entire humanities departments are devoted to western marxism. Apparently like 70% of ALL PHDs identify as leftist.

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Ha you wish

YEs thats not hard when in burgerland the only other option is far right, instead of right-of-center-but-claiming-to-be-left

No revolution will ever come. When Trump wins you will have to get a job and actually help your mom pay some damn bills (she works hard as fuck your know).

Hillary is the most leftist and right choice ever what's the problem?

Trolling used to be an art.

This board has enough shit baits already, please acknowledge that and try something more sophisticated next time

my TA stated randomly "i am unapologetically communist".
TAs went on strike that semester. fucked everything up.
more than half the semester of political philosophy was marx.
another course was pure jewry taught by a jew.
courses with contrary positions tend to have "mythbusters" segments.

that's just because there is literally no right wing political philosophy

No matter what else happens, revolt is coming in the 2050's to 2070's because the rate of profit will hit zero and capitalism will break in half.

I don't have the picture of it but I'm sure someone does

The working class proletariat have chosen to go full Stalin and purge the kikes. There will be revolution but not our revolution but at least Stalin will be happier knowing those heeby eyed rootless cosmopolitan bastards got what was coming to them for ruining everything for communism.

When technological advancement leaves people with no other way to survive.

50-100 years is my guess.

Its time for guillotines, I dont even think wed have to kill all the bankers, just get enugh of those rats and the rest will flee to their bunkers in new zealand

Ooo We going to do a repeat of the Great Terror in the French Revolution. I am perfectly fine with making an example of Porkies. That's why we don't have power we use guillotines in front of a mass of people. Rather we don't want get our hands dirty shoot them.

I bet you transfags can't wait to have porky cram your heads full of implants that makes you into unthinking automatons.

actually it was a reference to WKUK song, guillotines are pretty impractical and the snails really went overboard, if an org actually had the balls to start removing people they would have to be a lot more selective if they wanted to keep their legitimacy.

I think the poster is right by focusing on bankers, as much as you people love to talk about class and the rotten core of capitalism, I sense a profound lack of understanding of the actual meta issue here which muddies the waters and always hangs over the present system, ultimately making a true analysis of present day capitalism much harder

I am of course talking about derivatives, HFTrading, all the machinations and gambling debts that Dodd-Frank and the removal of Glass-Steagall/bretton Woods etc p.p has brought us

If I see someone babbling about how we fix the economy or society without even mentioning this I roll my eyes, it trumps even the cancerous military industrial complex or the corrupt health insurance complex, in fact it trumps the real economy of the entire globe

its also something informed, non-dogmatic people on both sides of the proverbial isle can agree on, we need to purge this shit first before we can sit down and talk about actual economic models.

heres the song i meant preddy gud:

youtube.com/watch?v=exnaY0l4XsM

couldn't of put it better myself.

You obviously haven't heard the 2529081529 other soliloquies about "class consciousness"