The French are Incapable of Understanding Trump

Donald Trump confuses French translators with mixed-up speeches
'Trump’s vocabulary is limited, his syntax is broken; he repeats the same phrases over and over'

independent.co.uk/news/world/french-people-translate-donald-trump-us-president-language-speech-a7539461.html
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In other words, the translators have to understand what Trump meant in order to translate him properly and because they can't accept his points they're confused as to how to translate him properly when he emphasizes his points.

Such that they'll do as that one German news broadcast did and translate something like "blacks and Hispanics have high unemployment" into "blacks and Hispanics are losers".

If the translator won't accept that Trump meant something he said then they'll be confused as to how to translate him.

It's almost as if politicians are incredibly inauthentic with their speeches while Trump is actually speaking his mind.

Also the French are niggers about English anyway.

Nailed it first sentence first post. Regardless of his vocabulary it's always very clear what his point is, they either intentionally misinterpret it or they political viewpoint is so closed they've somehow never encountered it before.

I'm not fluent but have decent knowledge of French, I call bullshit that they'd have any trouble with Trump's speech. Even for something like bigly you could easily translate it to largement and be done. It's similar shit to how they 'translate' Putin to say shit like Trump's a genius and Russia has the best prostitutes.

I just want to go to sleep and wake up with everything, especially media personnel, on fire. I've been waiting for the happening since highschool

This also reminds me of all of the liberal posts that call Trump's speech shit while pretty much every Trump supporter I know (including me) likes it.

They simply can't comprehend what the Trump voters wanted and why they voted for Trump in the first place.

To them he's "speaking like a 4th grader" for not shrouding his intentions like 5 layers of ironic lying and doublespeak. They just cannot accept what he says at face value. What could possibly be so fucking hard to understand about "America First". It's not a hard concept, and yet the words just can't seem to penetrate their mental immune systems.

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I have no problem understanding him.

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Believe it or not even our (((press))) is shitting on Trump like mad. So don't be surprised if it's "mistranslated" or "misunderstood".
We have the exact same problem. But this time, it 'could' be different and we're not getting another shot at this, we know it, at last those past 35/40.

tbh I get annoyed by the way he speaks sometimes, not by the simplicity but because of the strange word order he uses. I think Dilbert man said that it's done on purpose to be more persuasive by putting certain words first and last in the sentence. If true, that dedication to speaking artificially even when it's awkward makes him a kind of meme scientist that I can only admire.

It's eye opening when you realise (((they've))) been doing this for decades.

OP I think you meant to say "The French Media are Incapable of Understanding Trump".

This is complete bullshit.
is absolutely right.

I'm French and have watched many Trump live rallies during the campaign without a problem.
Recently I watched the inauguration speech live on an american youtube channel to get the content from the source without the filter of translation by fucking journalists.

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I don't it's an intentional genius level PSYOP by him, but I think instinctually, over the years and years of business conversations he's had, Trump realizes the word order and emphasis that's important for getting someone to come over to your viewpoint. His language is simple because it needs to speak to the American people who, although they are my white brothers and I love them, not that smart or perceptive. To speak to John Q Steelworker's heart he's gotta say it loud, he's gotta say it a lot of times and he's gotta say it simply.

I do find some of his speech pretty bizarre though, like the way he says "industry". He breaks it down to say "in-duh-stree" in an unnatural way. We'll need more data to process on it because once we know the objective of future persuasive speeches we can analyze the word choice of them and break it down a little further.

Can help understand? Is there a way to cut through the Parisian niggeropolis and rendezvous with other Pepe Holla Forumsacks? Or have the French made it illegal for whites to congregate like the Germans have?

Translate this.

i've never had any problem understanding Trump, but i'm not a eurocuck

Je n'irais pas en France.
Je n'irais pas en France.
La France n'est plus la France.
La France n'est plus la France.
*Hand gesture*

This Frog still doesn't get it.

Who cares? He speaks to Americans people, not to French people.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. God I hope it's easy to translate his words into african nigger clickclick language too, I mean wouldn't it be awful if it was giving Mgabe and Mbubu trouble as well as Ahmed and Muhammed over in the Caliphate of France?

This just matters so much guys, I can't even

I'm American, I was just shitposting my "to french" OC.

I was in Paris recently though, my buddies there introduced me to some proper fucking White Nationalist Parisians. To all Frenchman ITT, ask your Polish, Ukrainian, Romanian friends to introduce you to the Parisian WN's. For some reason the Slavs I met all had buddies who died in Bataclan and they're fucking furious. They're your plug into the movement.

That's bullshit. They're just idiots who I guess are trying to discredit him. I'm French myself, and an interpreter, and I have no issue understanding him. Those translators just fucking suck.

It's true that Donald Trump doesn't merely read his speech, clearly he's improvising part of it, and while he's just passable at improvisation, it still ends up being very good because he actually has things to say.

There's no problem with "bigly" which despite not being found in the dictionary is obviously formed of "big" and "ly", meaning "in a big way". Nor there is any issue with "swatches of land", which I haven't heard myself, but certainly I'd link it to "swathes of land".

They're just fucking shitty journalists thinking their English is good enough to cover US events when they truly suck like 90% of frogs, because they can only make literal translations that completely miss the point of the discourse being held.


Je n'irais pas en France, non je n'irais pas en France. Car la France n'est plus la France. La France, c'est vraiment plus la France.

Also posting full version.

The french are actually toads
Calling them frogs has been a mistake
We all know frogs are great at repetition

To all frogs thank you for this cartoon.
sage for off topic

The French have always been shit at other languages.

smh tbh famnon

What about when Obama started using ghetto language ?

How do you translate BIX NOOD MUHFUGGA in to French?

Also, french journalists probably never cared about being able to translate Trump live before his inaugural speech.
I bet you 2 baguettes that this was never an issue before, because they would just read what the MSM american media said he said in articles and translate from it.
They could allow themselves the delay because the US campaign wasn't covered live in France.

Now that Trump is president, they have to cover live events and speeches of him.
So that's why now it's suddenly an "issue" to these incompetent lying pieces of shit.

Wesh négro sisi la famill c com sa ke sa spass…….!!!!

Besides I never understood why we're the ones called frogs when it's the Brits who talk like ones "innit, innit, ribbit, ribbit"

Its because the French eat frogs.

I believe the Brits are sometimes sreferred to as Roast Beef in France?

Frog here, interested but I know for a fact the only slavs I know aren't involved. I'm currently at SJ central in Paris (university), but things are getting better.

Would you mind describing those Parisian WN's ? I'd love to talk to some of them, at least, and it's always good to hear news of how things are on the frontlines.
What are the beliefs of the groups you met ? NS ? Monarchists ?

What is this fucking bullshit, media all over the world are shitting on Trump over the most inane shit, I'm getting fucking pissed, pic related

We won user.

Dont get pissed.
Just be smug because we won.

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They were mostly police officers (federal police and Parisian local cops) who were big into the metal scene. Slovenian/Croatian/Romanian(French ethnic Romanian like Codraneau)/Polish/Ukrainian Parisians all were really big into the metal scene, and thats why a lot of their friends died in that Bataclan Attack. That galvanized them from casual racism to "the French military and police should kill all niggers".

I don't wanna out them because I'm sure INTERPOL is monitoring this thread now because I dropped the keywords but use your network of friends to ask around about Slavs who had friends and family who died in Bataclan. That'll be your clue to finding them.

Also, many of these Slavs are ethnically French, so think of them as your brothers, not outsiders with good views. Good luck.

I don't know why this makes me so mad, but it does.

Thanks a lot m8.
I'll be sure to gather info, and I guess we'll see what comes of it.

Good luck to you too.

This is 100% intentional. It's called Active Persuasion.

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Mainstream media is more or less trash tier if you actually digg into their stories you probably see that 8/10 would be fabricated bullshit.

Trump seems instinctually good at memes.

He's done enough rallies that he's picked up on what is particularly popular with crowds to get them more energized, he's been working on that since early 2015. He also has employed Stephen Miller and Bannon to help with making his inauguration speech and those are two people fully aware of what words can trigger a positive response in the right people along with a negative response from the right people.

One example of him changing his language to suit his audiences is how he gave up talking about "corporate inversion", changing it to more general language describing how we need to bring the money back into the country. It's the same point, but he puts it in simpler language so more people understand. You may remember, he did an entire speech on the subject of corporate inversion, which hardly got spoken about likely because the concept sounds too complicated in comparison to "we want to bring back the money".

I wish I could replicate his body language and the way he addresses peoples subconscious.

Its very high level stuff that takes years of practice.
He has mastered a technique many cold readers and hypnotists use where you can effectively bypass peoples conscious mind and leave an impression directly on their subconscious.

Under rated post

Just go practice with random people in the streets, make sure you don't do it in your city.

quality analysis. have a webm.

I find the way he says 'industry' weird too.

He's on the spectrum, all great men on on the spectrum.

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Its a very Queens pronunciation

Are those 'French' translators even white?

because you are not a jewish parasite, r-right pal?

This must be regional. I grew up in north-east PA / new jersey / new york, and the way he says it sounds normal to me.

For as critical as they are about Trump, they love appeasing millions of their imported niggers that butcher the French language every day.

He speaks simply for the libtards

French =/= Arabic

french is the most disgusting of the romance languages, what do you expect?

FRENCH = ALGERIANS AND NIGGERS


FRANCO NIGGERS ARE NOT CAPABLE TO UNDERSTAND HUMAN LANGUAGE

What a disgusting baseless hit piece. He has an IQ of at least 156 according to his SAT scores, an extremely large vocabulary. He used words that the press said were fake before they found out they were real words, more than once. Braggadocious - for example, I cant recall the other example from the campaign… Bigly is another though "not a real word" despite it being in the dictionary. CBC Im pretty sure ran something about trumpisms, made up Trump words (that as it turns out, werent made up at all) He speaks in a specific lexicon that is accessible to the masses, including the Mexicans who dont have a mastery of the language. Anyone who accuses Trump of being uneducated or suggests that his simplistic vocabulary is somehow a sign of his own inability could actually be accused of being racist and xenophobic, in irony.

French has a different way of saying things, the order in which words are said in a phrase are often backwards. "The blue house" "Le Maison Bleu" Dont come at me for grammar and spelling, I speak it, I dont write it. When Trump stops mid sentence and makes sudden change of thought, that is what they talk about. Hes talking about a concept and then suddenly he thinks of an example, so he cuts off mid phrase and uses the example… or he stops to reinforce his point with something like "sad" or "very dishonest" (media). The difficulty of the french in translating Donalds words is completely irrelevant also, I might add. Typical communist kike agenda, put everything in the context of a global society. Canadians puke every time they see the Albertan candidate cutting his speech up into 20 seconds sections of English, French - alternating and repeating. You hear a blurb in English, then you tune them out while the translator is talking.

Also, his record support with blacks is merely evidence demonstrating the effectiveness of his choice in words. Leftists on suicide watch.

This has made me retroactively question any speech or quote given by a foreign politician and translated into English that I've ever read

HA! I'm calling bullshit. This coming from a group with a language so convoluted they need a second dictionary solely for verb conjugation saying Oh that wacky Drum of he's just incomprehensible! Yeah right.

REMOVE FROMAGE

It's their fault for not knowing English

"I jumped into the car" (a simplistic phrase that came to mind) could be "j'a sauter dans la voiture" which means jumped inside, literally, but accurately describes the actual action. Alternately, if it was more word for word instead of understanding the intricacies of English, you would get "I jumped into the car" as in "I jumped and hit the car" "J'ai sauté et a frappé la voiture" - which obviously would not make sense if youre talking about going to the store, and everyone would think you hurt yourself or something.

you're right, as an english-speaking french I usually check the original quotes I see "translated" in the french media the few times I'm exposed to (((them)))
the meaning is frequently warped to suit the french newspapers style, with convolutions and innuendos and a smug intellectual tone, while the original is usually very straightforward and clear
Trump's speeches are extremely easy to translate, if you accept you hafe to be blunt and truthful


in french, there is one of the grammatical exceptions that says that there are words that are masculine gendered when singular and feminine when plural; "amour" (love), "délice" (delight) and "orgue" (organ-musical instrument)
beat that :p

I don't have a condensed version but the first clip in this Nigger Nazi webm nails it. They did it with Gobbels, made Hitler into an war-mongering atheist.

The whole situation with Trump and the media is the same they did with Hitler, except back then they didn't have the Internet to see what was real. The global media campaign against Hitler was strong.

Or better yet, a real translator should say "I got into the car" - ignoring that jump or the type of English saying was said at all and simply conveying what they meant to say, as a function. "Im going to the store, I got in the car"

The whole thing is ridiculous though, didnt deserve and article and obviously is just more bad press on Trump, for absolutely no valid reason.

IT'S FUCKING BIG LEAGUE AND YOU KNOW IT YOU LYING SACKS OF SHIT

He's not saying bigly, he's saying big league.

I've been gobsmacked that anybody could seriously not hear him saying "big league." It's a phrase I've heard all my life. I'm not from NYC either.

Better rephrase that, the frogs might have problems understanding you.

If France keeps electing socialist losers I don't really care if they can't understand him.

I hate this meme so much. There was a graph done by vox I think that showed Bernie used the most advanced vocab and Trump used the least. Bernie was pulling mainly college educated whitemales (who don't make up a majority of democrats) whereas Trump got the working class vote who did make up a large chunk of his voters…..hmmmm wonder who had the better strategy.

Trump uses simple language because it is easy for the lay person (educated or not) to understand a short 15 second clip. Most people don't pay as much attention to politics as we do on this board and may only catch a clip or two of him once a week. Trump comes out and says "America first" which 99.9% of right wing and middle of the road people understand and then that person watches the media spill spaghetti all over the place about putting America first and they think to themselves……"wait a minute what the HELL is wrong with putting OUR country first?????" And the media is taken down another peg.

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I'm kind of like Trump in this way. I tell people the truth regardless if they want to hear it. I've learned that niggers truly are retarded, along with most spics. I've learned to present my argument in the simplest most understandable way, and they still do not understand you. They will think you're "dumb and ignorant" and that you "won't listen to the troof" when you get mad at them for changing the subject or using red herrings instead of rationalizing what you've said.

It's really because Hollande's socialists tell French journalists to not translate Trump. I could easily do it and journalists in Quebec already do translate him quite accurately.

This. France has more thought policing than we do, so when they read something outaide of that it causes them massive cognitive dissonance to the point that they cannot even understand what is being said.

what bs, bongs and burgers have always spelled it differently

These fags need to open a dictionary.

I can understand him just fine. Not my fault they were born retarded.

Being A FUCKING LEAF that speaks french every day, I can say nobody in this thread even comes close to properly spelling or even speaking french.
Not like it matters anyway, english is the one true language. We're just speaking it right now, and all over the internet, it's why almost all content on the internet is in english. It's a universal language.

But on another note, the media sure loves taking advantage of the language barrier that's been formed over the years to make Trump say whatever they want him to say. They interpret and mistranslate his words as they want, to make him look bad. Typical media kikery. Trump speaks simply so Joe six pack can understand him, and he repeats the message over and over again so it gets stuck in the average normies' head.
I've been supporting trump since he came down the escalator and have had no problem understanding him. But then again, most frogs who actually know english speak it so brokenly it doesn't surprise me that they're confused.

supposedly, it originally said "honer"

Oh, so they are having the same problem as they did with Hitler's German speeches? :^)

It's just the media playing stupid so they can make Trump look bad, nothing new here.

Right before the inauguration, Trump made an enthusiastic comment about the upcoming festivities. He said something like It's going to be great, everyone's going, you can't find any ball gowns for the ladies in D.C., everything's sold out!. Obviously it was some good natured hyperbole and showmanship.

Immediately the press fags put out a fact check article that proved, yes there were in fact ball gowns still available and Trump is obviously a liar. These journalists are fucking ridiculous.

Yea it's fucking great the idiots are all suicide tier now as their shit show for the last 8 years finally hit the brick wall of reality.It was also great to watch that bumbling cunt warren pretend like she is still relevant with her heel nipping questions to Tillerson.Trump is going to really kick some liberal ass.

The press takes Trump literally, but not seriously. We take Trump seriously, but not literally.

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French canadian here, I can understand him perfectly and could easily translate what he says. It's bullshit.

Kek

Bigly is not a new word it is a very old one and means to do something in a blustering fashion or with tumidity Ben Johnson's dictionary page ninetyfuckingsix

And he said Big League very clearly anyway.

As to repeating phrases and speaking plainly that makes things easy for a translator surely?

I'm gobsmacked that anyone cares. "Normalcy" was coined under similar circumstances, with similar reaction. Now it's acceptable language.

Bigly is a word though.
dictionary.com/browse/bigly

Yeah, but that's not the word Trump says.

These lib cunts are pull some shit. The average reading level needed to read the common newspaper is 6th grade. The level of comprehension for your average local news channel is even less.
Fuck their ((nuance)) and post-grad speech requirement. President Trump was speak in a plain language that was easy for the People to understand and comprehend.
When you are dealing with groups of people and making a point it is egotistical to talk down to them and still expect them to understand and agree with your idea.
If President Trump had his speech geared to the political hacks and faculty lounge commies, (((They))) would be on their soapbox lambasting him for degrading the common man and confusing them with doublespeak.

Bigly is a perfectly cromulent word with a history that goes back over a century

Lel.

kek

Forgot to remove SAGE, my bad

that's not even how you use sage -____-

This. Trips confirm.


Fucking kikes, I don't even call em frogs anymore since it is insulting to kek.

Trump has been saying "big league" ever since
THE APPRENTICE SEASON 1
Go to 1minute 10seconds in the video
The fact that these journalists worldwide missed this just shows how hilariously incompetent they are at everything they do.

Frog here, I've watched a shitton videos of the Don, never had trouble with his phrasing. He used some words I wasn't familiar with so I had to look them up, but nothing else.

Since we're talking about Trump lingo, you fucked up big time there, Trump would never say "want", because that's begging and pathetic, he would have said "have", because it's imperative.

Well the French are just a bunch of douchebaguettes then

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I never really thought about this. Different languages have totally different sentence structures, and the unique way Trump talks must make it fucking hell to accurately translate. Especially romance languages that have a relatively strict way that sentences can be formed.

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This! Thank you based frogs!

Which is a very good thing because it makes his language accessible to more Americans. He is a populist, it should be expected of him.
Which helps him drive his points home. When you finish watching a Trump speech, he's left every point he wanted to make firmly etched in your mind: bring back the jobs, stop ISIS, remove illegal immigrants, take care of our veterans, make America great again.

This is another disingenuous hit piece to make it sound like Trump is some kind of half-wit. English speakers have no trouble understanding Trump. You might not find "bigly" in the dictionary, but its meaning is clearly given by context, and if not then by your knowledge as an English speaker you know that -ly denotes an adverb, so bigly is an adverbial form of big. It is beyond infuriating to me that the MSM can effortlessly assimilate a sizeable dictionary of politically correct terminology, but supposedly cannot handle "bigly".

Eloquent as always. No idea how any whiny liberal Frenchie would have trouble translating this.

I think Trump speaks in a very matter of fact way, and people aren't used to that. Society is extremely delicate (see: feminized) and everything has been flowery for so long; people aren't used to someone not being as politically correct and "accommodating" as possible.

If you had, say, and Obama speech on an issue, it would go something like this:

>"Look, we need to deal with these radicals. It's not all of the people from this religion! We must remember this! And keep in mind, fellow Americans, whether you're white or brown, black or yellow, we must remember that these people love their children too!"

Now Trump:

>"They're terrorists who need to be dealt with."
>"They must be eradicated as they want to do the same to us."
>"Bomb 'em."

Obviously Trump knows that THIS is what people are craving so this is what he'll provide; I'm sure if people wanted the sugarcoating he'd do more of it. People think he's stupid for being blunt, but you'd have to be stupid to realize that it's a big reason as to why he's so effective and won. Trump talks the way a few guys do when they want to get something done, and the Obama types talk like they're at a slumber party trying to make sure that Stacey feels included, that Jessica is feeling okay, and that Kate knows that everyone in the group totally thinks that the dip that she made for the chips is wonderful.

How's that selective sampling going for you Surnamestein?

Here, translate this and help make the World great again:
archive.fo/xYHaT

I'm fucking Australian and know Burgers don't use 'u' for a lot of words

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They never needed a good knowledge of idioms, slang etc prior to Trump, because they KNEW that all politicians sanctioned by the elite are singing from the same hymn sheet, any ambiguous statement could easily be reconciled by reference to the core values of the international left.
Kosher politician says something about immigration which you don't quite understand - translate as positive of masse immigration and you know you will be on the right lines.
Repeat for everything, race mixing, feminism etc.

With Trump they can't use that trick, they actually need a proper understanding of native American English because relying on the "new world order check sheet of official positions" is no longer a safe option .

To;Dr foreigners exposed as having a poor understanding of working English.

Combating selective sampling with a selective sample.

I just don't know anymore. I guess memes really did transcend reality.

Talk about hypocrisy.

Not for long, kike.

10/10
loled out loud

I find it aggravating, personally, but I tend to think in full sentences. It's occurred to me that the reason he draws such a crowd is that he speaks like other people think and does so long enough to bypass the conscious mind, like you said.

It's a damned good way of going about things, I must admit, but it still grates my nerves to watch him seemingly fumble before making a coherent point.

Victory is a difficult concept for the French :^)

To be fair, even the fucking 18-25 is more capable than the french press.

The Jew fears the Samurai.
And the Europoor can't understand plain text American English.

I've found that making example mid-sentence confuses bluepilled Europoors into oblivion. They then say thing like "do I have to understand it?" and other spiteful nonsense.

Has anyone whipped out the bantz and asked why these esteemed translators are too retarded to translate what they consider 4th grade speech?

The simple solution is to give France their own version of Trump.

no we only call ur mom that here

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Seeing him speak in more formal circumstances makes it kinda obvious that he normally doesn't speak like he did at the rallies.

Like you can see how he spoke at the couple congressional hearings he's been to in order to get an idea of how he sounds in more professional settings.

The reason he seems to speak as though he's fumbling before makes a point in the more showman settings is that he's likely wanting to explain more complicated points and is thinking of how to get the point across without losing the emotional appeal. He could come out and say the media lied about the audience his inauguration had, but it works better to get across the story behind it instead. Imagine how ridiculous he'd sound if he just spoke plainly saying such and such is a lie and the reality is such and such, it would always sound like he was on the defensive rather than laughing at the media's bullshit.

How the fuck does that make it harder to translate something?

user I'm sure he says "big-league" But he definitely also says "bigly"

tl;dr frogs are the worst yurops