STEMphobia

Can we talk about this board's phobia of STEM please?

STEMfags aren't all that bad…

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pure fucking ideology

Whenever someone is a STEMfag and makes political arguments and it's linked to leftypol, people always bring up they're STEMfags as an attack.

Also, the taking in pride in not being good at Maths is a common trait I see among all non-STEM leftists.

I'm in STEM and have no idea what you are talking about.

cool, #STEMbro, care to post proof?

Yes, this seems very realistic. Now that you informed us about this threat it comes to mind that I too started hearing conversations IRL about "being proud of knowing no chemistry" and how it "rules to have no idea about programming".

I think it's just because STEM people tend to be dogmatic positivists who like to treat every other philosophy as if it was new age healing crystals crap.

They also tend to be really smug about the fact that they're in STEM as if they're now some kind of higher being.

This is not an attack against everyone who's in STEM, just a trend that I've noticed that seems to be what's motivating the negative response.

This thread reeks false flagging and should be ignored.

no

That's the problem, really. I'm as "pro-science" as it gets, but everyone who used the expression "STEM" online turned out to be just another ignorant positivist new-age-atheism cultists.

being annoyed with annoying people isn't a "phobia"

This is the same logic seen with RedPillers: somehow some people (wymyn) can't seem to be drawn to my superior charm! It must be a problem of theirs!

I've worked in IT for about 9 years and agree with all these points.

My thinking is that it was mostly economic. Through out the 90's and 2000's most of the venture capital was help by old ass white men that saw IT as almost being magic.

That thinking wasn't without merit, productivity has increased 10 fold since the 70's mostly due to IT.

They threw money at IT and other STEM majors. This, compounded by the fact that this country doesn't produce a lot of engineer gave STEM guys a bad case of unwarranted self importance.

It's starting to change now, those same porkys have figured out that there's nothing magical about STEM and it can be outsourced to anywhere. It's really funny to me to see so many of my co-workers who were lolberts or ancaps talk about labor problems now, totally unironically.

Don't they unironically blame "leftists" for those labour problems?
The ancraps I know blame every fucking thing bad that happens on "leftism".

Do we have a phobia? I thought it was part of the generic American "only faggots read books" attitude.

Sure didn't look that way.

by "stemphobia" do you mean not thinking that the humanities are worthless critical theory propaganda?

It is if those people include me.

Have you stopped beating your wife yet?

When they were lolberts and ancaps they'd blame leftist or Democrats on holding back their potential with regulations and laws they didnt' like.

Now they just complain about work conditions and job insecurity. Hell they don't even really blame indians and off shoring like they used to.

I guess they've been beaten enough to realize that stopping that wouldn't change anything. They don't blame capitalism or the corp they work for so they still have a way to go.

But my god would they go on and on about Any Rand and boot straps. They don't do that anymore at least.

Because there's a large amount of classcucks in STEM, being STEM myself I see it everyday

how did we end up like this?

What do we do about the neurotypical-phobia of stemfags? :^)

FTFY

DELET THIS

Corporate STEM drones aren't hackers. In fact it's because STEM people sucked corporate dick for so long and never protested they were rushing products with Swiss cheese for security are the reason we have so many god damn hackers.

take your pills, worker

I havent noticed any anti STEM sentiments (i remember technocrwcy threads and shit here) but i havent been here ina while

This pretty much.
A lot of the ridicule of STEM is just being fed up with:
1. The self-importance of people STEM,
2. Their complete lack of self-awareness.
3. The complete political apathy, or worse complacency (Well-I'm-in-an-alright-spot-so-why-should-I-care-ism)
4. Their naïve dismissal of the humanities, or STEM-people acting as though they have a complete understanding of the humanities.
5. And last, just the fact that it has been so completely over represented in online communities for the past 20 years.

(Of course, this isn't a description of all people in STEM, just a laundry-list of problems that one encounters pretty often when speaking with STEM-oriented people on the net.)

I don't think anybody harbors any dislike of the fields themselves or doubts the importance or usefulness of the STEM fields.

What I find funniest about New Atheists in general and the attitude of Stems in your pic related is they're the type of people who hate religion because "it never questions anything" but you ask them to start questioning the practices of science it's methodology or just look at the history/sociology of it and they start losing their minds. Secondly they always come up with the most basic positions ever on morality/ethics which have been debunked thousands of times and start predicating their ideas on possibly false untested assumptions like free will/determinism, the reality of everyday experience etc. It's ok to believe those things outside of a philosophical debate, but if your asking me to believe your argument you cant leave anything up to assumption, but analytical philosophy in general has resorted to laziness ever since Coherentism has been broadly accepted. So you can make excuses for any shit argument as long as you can site a few minor studies that might correlate.

No one actually hates STEM, the natural sciences, whatever. It's despising a naive reductionism of complex phenomena to their pet field (like, say, the natural sciences), when there's a lot more going on than simply atoms/chemicals/natural selection/whatever.

Very common behavior among physicsfags, comp scifags, and people in my own major (econfags).

I don't see anymore than in any other circle. In fact all Mathematicians are psychotic leftists.

from my personal experience stem people tend to be status quo shills
but I think it's because they are in a comfy spot most of the time
it can be said about all so-called middle class

as to why there's little stem marxists, i think it's because marxist economic theory is not formal enough
but on the other hand I've seen a paper on dynamic reformulation of the labour theory of value, and in regards to formalism it was spot on as far as I can tell

major turn off for stem people might be declaration that dialectics is a scientific method at least for me it's a turn off, but imma not a full stem, not working in the field
anyone who studied mathematical logic will know that dialectics is not a special kind of logic, at least not in the strict sense of the word.

I go/went to an engineering school (but am a humanitirs/social sciences major)

I dont/didn't see this sort of dickishness from the engineering students or any elitism from them. Is this an online thing mainly?

Like literally, most of the engineering students I knew werent reactionary or "classcucks" especially the foreign ones (H1Bs) as they know theyre getting fucked in the ass by their companies.

Fuck, the compsci(ish) majors I know are basically cryptocurrency darknet anarchists.

Bio graduate here, in my experience "stemfags" on the Internet are college dropouts with an idealized vision of STEM fields.

Folks like Sargon are what I'm talking about

STEMfags being huge rightcucks is largely an American thing, and I'm not too sure why. Most STEMfags over here in shitpostistan seem to come from blue collar backgrounds. The 'T' is particularly leftist, I have never met one ITfag that has not stated that capitalism is turning the field into creating products at the lowest quality to sell for the highest price.

STEM worshippers, however? Yeah, they are fucking faggots. These people use STEM as an excuse for social darwinism, usually "WEEEELL IF U CANT AFFORD FOOD U SHOULD STUDY STEM XDDDD LE BOOTSTRAP MAYMAY", completely forgetting that if every blue collar man, woman and child studied it, the STEM job market would become saturated and we'd STILL have unemployment and pay issues. Not to mention that it would not suddenly stop outsourcing.

i have a feeling most stem worshipers aren't even really stemfags, just neets who "plan" on being one cause theyre all social outcasts who did ok in hs who want to think that it makes them better than everyone else

That's pretty much accurate. Though, I've found a lot of them also do it to try to add an "im SMART xD" edge to their shitty online arguments.

"im SMART cause i got a couple As on a report card once and i'm clinging to that cause it's literally my only accomplishment! those liberal arts cucks are gonna be working for ME one day!" *resumes playing hgames for the rest of life*

also as teens they were probably all these annoying memeing nuatheists that took over the internet so they all have this religious attachment to science just for the sake of it being ~Science~

Technology and Engineering, maybe, because of so many people drinking the Silicon Valley entrepreneur koolaide. General Science and Mathematics have always been pretty lefty in my experience.

kek

this reminded me of that hypnotic audio porn

I was saying that there's a vocal minority of them that make the rest look bad.

Does this make me a Stemfag?

abc.net.au/radionational/programs/drive/science-graduates-struggle-to-find-jobs/7702300

being a stemfag makes you a stemfag

It's just due to completion. The pedulumn will swing the other way soon

Genre si je te dis de sucer mon gros gland juteux et d'essayer mes couilles sales avec ta langue de pute, tu comprends quand je parle français ?

L- lewd…

Sure, but I have a job now while said stemfags who mocked me are struggling. I'm happy for everyone to have work, but it's nice to see it swing this way at this very moment.

Peh… lire satre :DDD

Call it dialectic it makes you look smarter.

Oh yes.

Hello good looking

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Ayup lads!

It's a strawman projected onto them by humanitiesfags to mitigate their inferiority complex.

People in the humanities don't even understand humanities- Why give something the time of day when the definitions or minutiae of concepts involved with it can change quite literally from minute to minute from even the same person's mouth. The rest is basically "they hurt my feelings."

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the definition of all definitions changes from minute to minute and context to context

everything is meaningless and nothing matters

No, it's not a matter of understanding or not- It's the fruitlessness of putting much stock in social theory these days when something from say- A psychologist, with 10 years of study and research behind it, is held with the same regard as something dreampt up on a weekend bender by a xe/xir calling themselves ketchup- Let alone the post-modernist circlejerk that is attacking concepts of theory altogether.

Surely the smug satisfaction you receive from looking down on all we uninitiated philistines who know not the true meaninglessness of everything (unlike yourself) means something.

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seriously, philosophy needs to be purged from radical left

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harris is such a fucking hack