I know, I know...

I know, I know, this thread is just another regurgitated mess of the last thread we had a couple days ago or maybe even a couple hours ago, but whatever, I need to vent.

How the fuck do we seriously combat the Alt-Right? Their sheer cancerous nature actually surprises me that they can get this amount of traction and support. I know the internet is full of retards and peices of shit but seeing the sheer size of Holla Forums and the Alt-Right community online really does make me sick. Why are people so interested in shitty social issues that don't matter?

Oh that women got married to a black man and not my skinny white ass, holy fuck I'm being oppressed.

Holy fuck there's an all women cast in this movie. Lets go on about it for a whole fucking year and call the movie sexist.

The Alt-Right are the most hyper-offended faggots in the universe, I don't get what their appeal is. I thought they were suppose to be strong and unmoving when you can't even have an all women cast in a movie without them crying their fucking eyes out.

I don't get their ideology and figureheads that have an IQ of about 2 and get under my skin on a level that you just couldn't believe. I know that is partly their strategy but I can't help but get pissed off at their obnoxious and utterly hypocritical nature. They're worse than SJWs at this point.

How can we beat them, comrades? Or have we already lost to the hoards of grotesque self-loathing faggots who have a submission complex to Gay Alt-Right Idols and Nazi Women.

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Stop giving it attention, you are making a bunch of white neckbeard virgins a much bigger deal than it really is.

Putting our fingers in our ears and praying it all blows over dosen't do anything to address the problem.

We might be able to do it but Liberals and SJWs are always going to be offended by them and address them in a manner that only makes them stronger as a movement.

It's all well and good saying that we can just not pay them any attention, but we don't count for everyone.

Make genocide of the whites a reality

kys

It's almost as if people will always unite along arbitrary racial and tribal lines instead of class. It's almost as if Marx was naive and wrong.


Really makes me think.

like clockwork

By engaging them with good arguments with citations and evidence, and humor. And doing that again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again.
No really, repetition ad nauseam is the basis of propaganda.

They're growing because they are reaching new proles that weren't political before finding the alt-right.

We gotta do the same thing, reach out to NEW people and sell them our ideas before the alt-right can sully them.

It's hard but we all gotta learn how to do it to turn the tide. Learning some basic fucking empathy which lefty pol seems to completely lack would go a long way.

empathy is a spook

Wow you got it all figured out. Truly your intellect is staggering.

I agree, comrade. I think preaching Leftist ideals to people on a much more basic level and language will go a long way.

The worst thing we can do is preach about how much theory we've read and how they're stupid. We should address their concerns but show them what is actually causing it.

I have no empathy for racists, sexists, nationalists etc. which comprise most of the working class today

LOL.
You think the alt-right is real? you think Holla Forums is real?
What a dumbass, look everybody, point at this fag and laugh hahaha!
Rightists don't exist. Whenever you see someone spouting rightist stuff it's actually just a kid being edgy and contrarian and not real.
I bet hitler didn't even existed. Now stop being silly and don't worry about it.

You can't. The ideas and views it expresses are very old and very popular, and it's a movement that is addressing the concerns and grievances of a great many persons. Unless those grievances are properly addressed, the movement will just keep growing, and attacking it will probably just strengthen its resolve.

It must be remembered that it's a reaction to another group/curent: modern, cosmopolitan, indentitarian liberals. That means, you won't be able to do anything about the so-called "alt-right" unless you also do something about the "SJWs" whom they fight and whose actions they feed on; they're symbiotic.

Basically this.

I've been thinking about this and the only viable way I see is to combat the origin of both the alt-right and sjw's. Both ideological currents flow from a postmodernist reinterpretation of culturalism i.e. trying to explain why society is how it is by analyzing culture, and then proceed to attempt to change society by changing culture.

The problem is that this approach is likely to lead to antagonisms among the people that have nothing to do with the relations of production, with the material world, the way forward is to show people that if they want to improve their lot in life how they do it is by resisting expĺoitation, wage slavery etc. by fighting for socialism. This is the challenge the left faces today, how do you show this to the masses? Every approach that's been tried has failed, and ironically led to the current culturalist impasse (think Frankfurt School, the French '68, hippies and so on) So sadly I don't have an answer, but whoever solves this riddle solves the "riddle of history"

We should come up with an edgy identifier to use like "alt-right" is.

Alt-left makes us sound like unoriginal copycats, and New Left is what made the current sjw movement in the west. What do we do, Holla Forums?

Haven't we already said before to stick with Old Left?

Post-left

What about "the true-left"?

Really? "Old Left" sounds boring and old tbh. We need something cool and new and flashy to catch the short attention spans of the youth.

spooky scary gommies

Not really.

Basis (material conditions) affects Superstructure (decision-making). Showing some practice that proves excellent consequences of alt-right will cut down the number of repetitions necessary to persuade people.

Classic Left.

tribalism is common to every human, its within us, instinctive, just like violence.

however, just like for violence some of have evolved and are smart enough to act upon those primitive instinct because they have no place in a civilized society

far is much stronger than hope, thats why right wings is tending, they scare people.
you as a leftist cannot compete, at least not with lower class/uneducated

The dailydork calls us the "dirbag left" apparently, dunno, has a nice ring to it.

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*dirtbag

The rapists.

Icepicks have a point, not an edge.


I'll stick to Stalinism, if you don't mind.

i don't think anything can be done at this point.
we are witnessing a large scale cultural shift that may or may not lead to war and death.
this trend will last a decade or two before going back to normal

That's pretty depressing