If a big war finally starts in North America and not just low-level crybaby leftist and dindu violence, how would it likely play out, and what would trigger it?
Would we all just get really fucking upset one day and start killing everyone in our area we suspect of being liberals?
I imagine it would be really messy. It's not like any of us have actually figured out, house by house, who to target and what for.
What would happen in Canada and Mexico?
What would the rest of the world do?
I hope you have a MAGA hat.
Nothing. Nukes are a hoax.
whats it like working for the FBI
Reported.
The United States Government has extensively studied the concept of second American Civil War (along the assumption that it will be left versus right. HMM. I WONDER WHY THEY MIGHT POSSIBLY DO THAT.) Their conclusion is as follows: They don’t have a snowball’s chance in Hell of winning. The moment civil war is declared, the government loses. No scenario or outcome ends in their success. Period. It’s just a matter of how long it takes. A longer analysis will follow, but here are the salient points.
30% of the American population will actively revolt.
This alone is enormous and damning. Historically, you only need 10% of the population to actively participate in a rebellion to successfully overthrow the establishment: We only had 15% of the population actively attempting to throw out the British during the Revolutionary War; roughly 70% of what remained was neutral and simply stood by. By contrast, 30% of Americans in modern America would support a revolution to stop their own government if it happened tomorrow That’s how discontent the people are and how much the people don’t support the government.
The government would need infrastructure more than rebels would.
Already working with significant handicaps, the establishment would need electricity, access to the Internet, bridges, and airports to coordinate any active campaign against the rebellion. By contrast, the rebellion can work in the dark. Considering how easy it would be to sabotage US infrastructure, one of the first things the rebellion would do is collapse bridges, destroy, or seize power plants, and cover the Interstate in IEDs. This is relatively simple to accomplish, and it would inflict enormous damage on the establishment’s ability to restore order. It would also cost an enormous amount of time and effort to fix any sabotage, because the establishment would need to provide military protection to any workers attempting to rebuild, which is a drain their active fighting personnel resources that they could not afford.
Taking America in a land war is almost impossible.
The United States is absolutely full of natural terrain chokepoints, making marching an army across it against armed resistance almost impossible, and it is large enough that no sustained air campaign would be possible. The Japanese Admiralty realized this themselves during WWII, which is why many of them were against attempting to invade. Also, by an interesting coincidence, most of those chokepoints are in hard conservative states, where the resistance would be strongest. The government would lack the ability to reclaim its own land by force, especially when the previous point about infrastructure is taken into account. President Lincoln, on the matter of potential European involvement in the first American Civil War, stated, “All the armies of Europe with a Bonaparte as a commander, could not take a drink from the Ohio.”
A significant majority–between 55 and 70%–of the military would defect to the side of the citizens.
The problem with suppressing the people with a military, that literature and fantasy tend to overlook or ignore, is that the military is the people, too. In order to get any military to fight their own, you first have to convince them that it is necessary to do so–that it is justified. The Communists also ran into this problem, but they overcame it with psychological conditioning and creating a dog-eat-dog atmosphere within the military. The American government having actively recruited people who are patriotic, practical, brave, who have civilian families, and having reinforced those values throughout their training process, lacks the ability to convince the majority of their fighting force to engage against their own people. The moment a civil war breaks out, over half of the American military will defect to the rebel side. They will bring military gear with them and, more dangerous, military training. lt only takes one Navy Seal or Army Ranger to potentially train hundreds of civilians into a dangerous resistance force. They’ve done it before, in other nations. You can be damn sure they can do it on their own home turf. But it gets better.
At least 10% of the people who defect to the civilian side would not do so openly, and they would not abandon their posts.
The moment a civil war starts, not only does America lose over half its military to the cause, but their own command structure will suddenly be infested with moles, plants, and “traitors.” There would be almost no way of knowing who is actually on their side and who is supporting the uprising. Worse yet, if one of those people happens to be the captain of one of the nuclear submarines on standby in dark water, the civil war is already lost before it even gets started. Russia has already publicly stated that it will support any rebellion in the United States against the established government and will send troops and aid to support the resistance. This is pretty self-explanatory. The last thing the government would need during a civil war is Russia breathing down its neck, but they would get exactly that. To supplement two-thirds of their own military leaving and civilians being trained by military elites, Spetsnaz would drop in and the resistance would get armor and air support from the only other nation on the planet that stands a decent chance of fighting us openly and winning.
The media fearmongers because it’s profitable.
The media, for all of its paid shillery, would give coverage of everything the resistance does because it is immensely profitable for them to do so. It would be guaranteed views. The only response the establishment would have would be to either allow it or order a total media blackout on the rebellion. Either way they lose, because both outcomes would awaken hundreds of thousands–if not millions–of people. We can only win on the media arena, and they can only lose. It’s merely a matter of what they think will minimize their losses.
American civilians are armed and dangerous.
In spite of all of the illegal attempts from the political left to disarm the American people, there are approximately 89 guns for every 100 Americans. Furthermore, we are one of the top three arms manufacturers on the planet (the others being Russia and France). The establishment would be in trouble even if their opponents were unarmed, but any rebellion of the people in America is, by definition, an armed one. They could be easily armed further by stealing weapons or even outright being given them by sympathetic interests (unsurprisingly, an overwhelming number of weapons manufacturers on American soil are deeply traditionalist, and the odds are good that many minor–and at least one major–would side with the rebels).
The last resort Catch 22.
The United States has an enormous stockpile of munitions and explosives, up to and including a massive number of nuclear warheads. But they cannot use any of this in this Civil War. The establishment has to play a game of “we’re the good guys” with the rest of the world while this is all taking place. There will be lines they cannot cross, because to do so would elevate the issue from being an internal matter to an international one. The moment they throw an ICBM at Ohio or drop a nuke on Austin, Texas, it stops being a civil war and becomes an international relief effort where the other militaries of the other first world nations come to save the American people from their own out-of-control and tyrannical government. The rebellion, meanwhile, is not nearly so limited re: the hypothetical nuclear submarine captain. The rebels could threaten–without bluffing–to nuke Washington DC, but the establishment has no equivalent threat they could return.
Not sure what I'd do. Must be easy finding targets working for the FBI.
I really do wonder what it'd be like. Considering a lot of this poz is located only inside major cities (especially ones with schools), we can probably expect them to riot and kill people in their own cities before the cities completely collapse under the stress.
In the event of a war, I'd expect it to be contained to left winged cities, and in between other lefties who think anyone slightly to the other side of them on the political spectrum are the enemy.
In short the fighting would probably be among the lefties, against other lefties, in left-winged cities. It'd be more the equivalent of every major city turning into Detroit after the left is done killing eachother.
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I have family to protect, will it be acceptable for me to bunker down instead of tard charging into a city?
Considering contemporary natsocs are worthless at strategy, and the right wing ex-mil militia /k/ types continually get blown the fuck out by fat donut eating FBI or ATF agents, any predictions on here about how the right is destined to win should be seen skeptically. It's not going to be as easy as the morons on here make it out to be.
I've been following it very closely.
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In the late years of a global war, a Marine officer named Hitch who had wearied of fighting and chosen to live alone for five years meets a small family who change his life.
Basically GTFO of a city ASAP if you are in one, large towns as well. Everywhere that's self sufficient such as rural towns will be pretty much safe. Cities will become overloaded with crime, all basic utilities would cease to function such as electricity, water, plumbing as well. Food would also become scarce. Refugee routes will probably be attacked as well by gangs looting for whatever they need or fancy so best to pack guns.
Essentially everyone and everywhere liberal will be devastated.
In 2019, yet another 'war to end all wars' began suddenly along the northern border of North Korea as Russian troops surged across in force. The unexpected assassinations of Kim Jong-un and his family over the previous summer months had left the isolated communist nation, surprisingly without support from the Chinese, in the hands of a brutal general, a man whose vocal denunciation of recent Russian aggression in Ukraine and Georgia led him to threaten nuclear attacks should North Korea's northern neighbor so much as “spit in our direction.” The Russians took the offensive, invaded North Korea, and within weeks had crushed the shocked and disorganized North Korean military, securing the nuclear armaments and proclaiming North Korea as a province of the new and emboldened Russian empire.
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It would probably start slow depending on the area. Cities would be the first to escalate into full warfare. The rest of the world would actively try to fan the flames while getting rid of all the American money they have because Civil War would devalue it which in turn would devalue it it even further. What triggers the war is a mystery but it would have to be something really big to spark something like this. Anyway shit would probably get brutal really quick, people dragged into the street and killed. Travel through cities is absolutely fucked and shit is probably on fire. That's just the first few weeks then the issues of transportation and logistics creates a food shortage as none of the food can make it into the cities disease spreads quick, starvation and dehydration become an issue. After a month there would be a refugee crises as millions of people try to escape either trying to get to Canada or moving to rural areas which both cause major issues.
As for Us vs Leftists it's who the people side with as a whole. Both sides will be lining people against the wall and bringing out the rope. However the current state of leftist have no unifying ideal infighting would be bad on both sides but the leftist would literally eat each other alive.
Globally a bunch of crazy shit happens another Israel-Muslim War happens only without US aid. All those countries that receive aid are suddenly cut off. Africa goes up in flames. North Korea invades South Korea.
I think most of us would take advantage of the chaos to settle old scores and try to accumulate as much power as possible.
Praise Kek!
there will be political violence, assassinations, before open war
Yeah, we've been watching that stage for months. That stage failed for the enemy and they are still doubling fown on the same tactics. After the inaugeration and Soros the Dark One finally dies from Kek's light entering the world the the new Pharoh, then the enemy will be faced with their defeat, and but time will tell of which path to the grave they seek.
Shadilay, Praise Kek!
I won't tell you what I would do only that the fire rises.
Not going to happen. Fuck off with your gay blackpill roleplaying.
I've seen your posts before. What are these chokepoints?
The left declaring civil war is stupid. Cities that lose their utilities will cease to function. With the utilities removed by saboteurs, their populations will mindless fight the city itself, disrupting everything. The city will have to put down these rioters… which mean killing their political base.
Utilities are extremely vulnerable. Water is stored open. Lines for gas, communication, and power unguarded. Even their distribution nodes are vulnerable and can be contested even by amateurs. Finding and repairing the networks takes considerable time.
The city could be turn into a hell with a few coordinated snips.
If Trump is assassinated then we start doing the same to them.
"But social network analysis couldn’t find snipers who were not part of any network. That’s when we began to hear of “The Militia of One.” In the end there were too many rifles, and too many willing shooters. A number that was constantly heard was twenty million. That was the number of Americans who supposedly went deer hunting every year, against less than 200,000 armed federal agents.”
westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2012/09/11/what-i-saw-at-the-coup/
OP is the fag who wrote about nuke's being, 'useless' yesterday.
I TOLD YOU BITCH, think before opening your faggot, dick suck mouth.
You, you would trigger it with your GRIDS and larping.
You'd suck BBC for a slice of bread. So, pretty much no change to your life.
First of all, there are roughly half a dozen bridges across the Mississippi which carry, get this, HALF THE FUCKING FREIGHT TRAFFIC IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.
If 9/11 was an actual terrorist attack, that’s where they would have hit. They’re not defended, they’re weak as fuck (constant maintenance is required to our infrastructure to keep bridges from collapsing), and the economy would have been in shambles for at least half a year as they were rebuilt, maybe more.
In a “government egregiously violates the constitution” scenario (so… right now, but you don’t see a goddamn person lift a finger), those bridges are what the Nationalists would want to take control of first. After that, it’s a matter of consolidating loyalist military support to blockade the cities and begin the two month long process of waiting while they starve themselves into cannibalism.
Rocky Mountains (Including derivative features, like the Grand Canyon), The Colorado River, Appalachian Mountains, Bemount Swamps, Mississippi River, Ohio River, Missouri River, Lake Chaplain, Hudson River, Mohawk River, Connecticut River, Ozarks, Mojave Desert.
Movement is extremely limited without the aid of roads and bridges to pass these features. Areas near the Appalachians and the Rockies are especially choked. Remember grade school lectures about explorers and the difficulty in trying to conquer the west. Now factor in logistics, and you can grasp the problem when moving through these features under likely attack.
On top of that look how much trouble the US Military had against shitskins hiding in mountains. Ditches the government themselves made suddenly become ambush points. Every problem the US faced in Nam and Iraq suddenly multiplied by 10 fold. Sadly I don't know if we recover in our lifetime this would be a Fall of Rome tier event for the US.
Note, however, that the US military’s “failures” in any given war this side of 1949 is not due to an inability to wage war against that kind of enemy, but a POLICY decision, preventing the military from correctly waging said war. Vietnam could have been over in less than six months had we simply scorch earthed the pile of shit.
But keep in mind that your statement is correct regarding a US civil war, because not only will 3/4 of the military defect from the government, what’s left will be FORCED to continue fighting the war incorrectly, because every civilian killed is 10 more who will actively fight the government.
It's shit.
This is what is hoped for by the JEW, not freedom to raise your son a girl or fuck niggers, but a complete destruction of civil America.
To me, America now, looks like the early days of the fall of South Africa
No because we will never let the Kike or our people forget what they started when we win.
But US scorched the hell out of North Vietnam, it didnt help.
HAARP exists, just saying.
The first priority is regaining a sense of safety/stability in your own community, shouldn't be too hard since government doesn't provide either of those.
You'd see a huge spike in crime which will create public backlashes lynch mobs followed by every community eventually purging the criminals from their midst and rebuilding the government, probably in tune with the old constitution. That's on a micro level.
Realistically, State governments take over before that happens.
Rember the black and white footage of the war torn, and battle fatigued Wehrmacht walking out of rubble in surrender to their soviet captures? A national socialist revolution in North America would result in untold destruction, imagine what happened to Berline but a hundred times worse. Those of you who labor under the illusion of "le fourth reich under god emperor" are fucking fools. Why do you think the white race faces genocide today? It's because of a failed National Socialist revolution, in which the victors got to re wright history, and shape our current world.