The end of the creator-driven era

Joshua Martin
Joshua Martin

What went so horribly wrong with it, Holla Forums?

Ryan Price
Ryan Price

They made it illegal to shoo to shoot degenerates on sight.

Evan Reed
Evan Reed

The same goddamn thing that always happens.
The creators get the shaft from the company.
There was never a creator-driven era. There are just creators, and they don't do the driving.

Angel Jones
Angel Jones

A long, long time ago

Daniel Adams
Daniel Adams

I can still remember when the music used to make me smile

Brody Roberts
Brody Roberts

shoot degenerates on sight.
post an elf

John Ross
John Ross

not only that, but SJWs happened
and so did reddit and tumblr

Thomas Jenkins
Thomas Jenkins

This. If something, this is closer to "Fan-driven" era. Look at AT and into what it devolved thanks to the influence of fans.

Andrew Price
Andrew Price

I still wonder how japan creators manage to not let outside sources (ie fandoms, interviews, etc) affect their creative visions, directions, and works…

Asher Green
Asher Green

Pandering to fans wrecked Ironfist Chinmi. For a while it looked like being the next Tintin or Asterix, it was being bought by school libraries in the west, and then the fans wanted it to be more fighting, fighting, fighting, and it just devolved into shonen-tard.

Battle Angel Alita took a long hiatus over the editors censoring his use of non-PC Japanese terms for crazy people.

Dragonball went on for way too long because fans wanted more.

Joseph Hill
Joseph Hill

Go home Lauren, you're drunk.

Daniel Howard
Daniel Howard

Oversimplification.

The most obvious and extreme example I can use is Carebears. Carebears from the start was the kind of penultimate 'little kids safe' brand. Well, remember that the baby brand offered a movie with an evil book that utilizes black magic to turn people evil, a shapeshifting demon that imprisons the main cast in a crystal chandelier, and the death of a young girl (even if she did come back).

Look at that compared to any babby show today, where the most horrible event was that dad couldn't make it home in time for dinner or a friend forgot to get a present for a party.

It happened in almost everything.

Gross out humor is now entirely about disgusting imagery
Kids shows are so sanitized they offer nothing
Adult shows just use swear words and sex jokes

Things have been distilled to their most simple form and it sucks.

Ian Scott
Ian Scott

ew, cartoon brew

Jeremiah Morris
Jeremiah Morris

Battle Angel Alita took a long hiatus over the editors censoring his use of non-PC Japanese terms for crazy people
Really? The only thing I know about BAA is that the creator had to rush the ending because apparently he was on the verge of dying

Juan Jackson
Juan Jackson

Firstly they don't, but I think there's some aspects of japanese copyright that are non-transferable from the creator so they can't just take it a property and wreck it and throw it on the heap like in america.

Carson Wilson
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Angel Ross
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…is that Moot?

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Actually that happens a lot when publishers and animation houses put their hands on the mangas, shit get changed a lot compared to the source material, but it's mostly to pander or for budget, not to push an agenda.
That's what happen when creators think "Well, you can find this X so we won't do it", no one do anything and so you can't find those things in the mainstream media. There's also the stupid mindset of making everything "relatable". That's not stupid on itself but they think that to make something relatable they have to be the exact same image of the views, instead of approaching ideas that can only be done in this kind of media.

You used the carebears as an example, sure, a lot of crazy shit happened but it was all fine and dandy since it left an intended message at the end. Now look at We Bare Bears, everything is kind of boring. Sure, they are kind of relatable, and at the end you get the message, but is just boring to see for that reason. Fuck, just take a look at Transformer beast wars, you learn tons of life lessons from there and it's barely relatable from the looks, but the sense of justice of the characters or hopeless situations, that shit is entertaining, it's relatable, and you get the message, that's how it should be done.

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Leo Morris
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Yet Hasbro's Care Bears was still a huge piece of shit compared to Disney's Gummy Bears.

I wish Disney had created a pony version of MLP's show just to shit all over Hasbro's retarded attempts at "relatable safe entertainment" I don't understand how it can be "safe" if it's a giant pile of garbage that easily offends children and grown men alike.
Hasbro's depictions of ponies as fat hippos offended my dream of riding horses to no end.

Kevin Russell
Kevin Russell

ponies as fat hippos
Are they not?

Alexander Thompson
Alexander Thompson

So you're a brony?

Eli Nguyen
Eli Nguyen

What you had in your mind was not ponies, but miniature horses. Their proportions are different.

Robert Taylor
Robert Taylor

Are they waiting for some cummies? because they look ready to have cummies all over those pretty faces.

Robert Smith
Robert Smith

stop

Joseph Baker
Joseph Baker

That is one fluffy pony

Zachary Clark
Zachary Clark

I want a series that centers on this pony as a droll, witty Edwardian aristocrat. Nobody will realize he is a pony because his epigrams are always to perfect with just a hint of smugness.

Nicholas Cooper
Nicholas Cooper

Everything went wrong when corporations began to create/control the demand and the supply.

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