Automation in jobs

but there's no such thing as technological unemployment goy

No it isn't, you stupid faggot. I'm wondering what Holla Forums thinks of increased automation taking jobs away from people, and what social/political effects that will cause. (((Holla Forums))) thinks increased automation is good, I think it is bad.

All jobs should die, this civilization system where people spend most of their day performing some pointless,repetitive action for paper or digital "money" for some fat jew is only making us more and more degenerate. We need to return to the nature, all we need in life is some food and shelter and we should be providing that ourselves, without having to get it from some kikes or from a government, all of these "workers" are in reality slaves, nothing else. We need to destroy most of our technology and start living like humans again. Any town with more than 10 000 people is a human sewer, those who live in big cities can't be called humans anymore. We are supposed to spend most of our day doing outdoor activities in nature, not in a concrete cube, pressing buttons on some machine.

But there isn't. Automation reduces the cost of production enabling greater consumption and real wages.

Only braindead (((marxist))) shills believe in post scarcity. It has been a pipe dream for them for 100 years.

You forgot another crucial industry, infosec. If everything is automated one overlooked vulnerability in these robots can cause a black hat or a terrorist to crash millions of automated trucks at the same time, 9/11 times 100 with automated planes, ruin hundreds of businesses by fucking with the labor robots, etc. Now is a good time to get into infosec, with automation infosec professionals are going to be in even higher demand and the good ones are going to be paid millions of dollars. The potential for hacking will also be a yuge obstacle that will delay automation for years because of the risk.

Mass production of the tractor put half of America's workers out of a job and suddenly desperate for food.

Modern snowflakes won't go through anything remotely like that. Let them cry into their brand new iPhones all they want.

Automation is good you stupid mong. Technology is what enables us to have higher living standards. Automation doesn't cause unemployment that's retarded Luddite crap debunked countless times. KYS open a textbook and stop talking about issues you have no clue about

You've made this thread four times already if I recall correctly. You faggots entire goal in this regard is shill that this in no way, shape, or form will impact our white countrymen negatively, and anybody who disagrees is either somehow inferior, or a shitskin.

What a fucking waste of dubs…

Automation of jebs is not big problem. Big proplem is that kikes who own most of world wealth, thanks to technological progress by 100 years will become immortal demi gods. If we dont unite and do "something" to stop them.

Technology is what is enabling you to be a paranoid sperg right now. Not the point. I am not from (((/leftypol))). I worry about how people will be affected by being forced out of work due to robots. It's that simple, retard.

Who is going to buy shitty fast food when these jobs are gone and with what?

Technologically induced unemployment is a myth. I don't know how to dumb it down for you go open a text book and just lurk moar.

Hey lefty/pol/ spergs we don't care about your cringy technocratic socialism keep that crap at your containment board

In short, it is going to lead to the destruction of modern society. See the Calhoun experiment on rats for an example on the irreversible behavior shift that occurs when a population hits critical mass. There will be too many people with not enough social roles to accommodate them all.

WhileI agree that automation is a good thing, a society of lazy asses who don't work is most certainly not. I would hope automation of industry would encourage a more DIY attitude in the home.
People learning how to fix things around the house or make their own pottery/clothing or fucking something with practical value would be much better than what we have now.
but the transition to service labor marketing on people who want to have other people do shit for them might be counter productive to this point.

Birth rates are below replacement in every single White country the population is imploding right now so what the fuck are you talking about?

Okay at least we agree automation is good, but how will poverty be dealt with in a capitalistic sense, or is welfare the way to go.

We can't just hang all the dindus u know lol some are just ignorant and could have potential. Many of us here are NEETS afterall

How new are you? You're fucked if you're not in Trump's America. Automation is the leaat of our concerns in other nations .

Solution to the unemployment question? Genocide.

Maybe because i'm a slav, but if i need to choose i would be more happy if my meal would be served by a robot than a nigger… Just saying…

What exactly do u mean. Robots do dindus work now dindus don't have work. What else happens, more jobs elsewhere?

Like I said, technology is allowing you to be a cringey paranoid sperg loser right now. Have you taken your meds yet?

Also, do you mind actually backing up any of your points? Or are you going to use my thread to unleash your spergy autism with no substance? You say technologically induced unemployment is a myth yet you have nothing to base that off of in the modern (and futuristic) context. Go away.

The population isn't what matters, it's the number of social roles
By limiting those roles via automation you lower the collapse threshold

You're right that white birth-rates are decreasing, but the US and every country in western Europe is experiencing growth in the region of

It's more of a problem than a solution. And the people who push hardest for it are greedy kikes and lazy assholes that want to do nothing and get a paycheck.

This. Do you really think that jews will dont wipe out goyim when they have robots to replace human slaves?

Thankfully automation is my area of study, thefore I'll keep my job and work to sustain useless NEETS.

Automation reduces the cost of production and raises real wages. Higher income = higher consumption and investment.

This shit has been happening for 250 years and there is no empirical evidence that automation causes a secular rise in unemployment.

This is a job field I want to get into, (and robowaifu's) it's a good thing to an extent. A big reason is that "muh lack of workers, muh birth rates won't be able to fill job positions up" is the go to excuse for cuckservatives to push migrants and "temporary" foreign workers. Any excuse after that would be very blatant to even the dumbest of normalfags.

And of course robowaifus.

It's great, if we make sure to remove welfare support for the people whose jobs are taken by machines. The attitude of "we need jobs to be done inefficiently by idiots to keep them docile" is retarded. Automation leads to more free time, and that leads to further innovations in art and technology that are only possible when great thinkers have time to sit and think.

Life income is a sneaky way of implementing communism. This means all will be equal, which means those at the top, overseeing the system. Those ((leaders)) will rule the world and you will never be able to anything about it. Because, don't think for a second that income could go to buying a gun or ammo, don't think for a second your transactions might only be used for absolute basic of survival, which means you're forever under complete control of the kikes. Universal income would be the death to us and the beginning of the Orwellian nightmare.

These robots and automation is very miniscule, fact of the matter is that the biggest concern is outsourcing and owners cutting corners without concern for their own countrymen. Fact of the matter is that several big business-owners nowadays have never achieved as high income as they have in history, all the while, they are still cutting down on workers, lowering salaries and gives the workers even more to do. It's no wonder why a worker at McDonalds usually quits after a few months, the amount of work is not equal to the amount of pay. All the while, they are increasing the prices on the shit that they sell for some reason, while always being understaffed and clogged with work to the point of customers not getting their shit on time.

thank god they are retarded inbreds

People will flip their shit because they will have to accept that they are obsolete.

Yes. The current global model runs on exchange of resources in a very complex model that is very easily disturbed if one of the components fails. Imagine for example that the global coffee supply from the coffee belt gets disrupted. It would have global impact on the productivity of the modern society. This goes for any resource that travels through the world.

The only response to this is to create a much more robust system that will be operated by robots instead of humans that are prone to making errors.

With more complex system you need more granular and finer control over the actions, otherwise it will fall apart. We are in that stage. To create more granular control we put tracking on everything, finer control comes with a greater ability to control all the parts in the chain supply. Robots are perfect for this purpose.

Totalitarian society. It's no coincidence that in the last couple of years there has been a tremendous erosion of human freedom and privacy. We have mass surveillance, military on the streets, censorship of speech, the top notch propaganda machine.

When the shit hits the fan, all these parts will be already in place and it will be impossible for the plebs to push back. The reason why the EU let so many illegal rapefugees in is that they will create chaos and the only response is to give government even more power over peoples' lives. It's the most basic formula for expansion of power.

People will live in walled cities. Our environment is fucked up beyond recovery. These cities will be the only liveable patches of civilization spread around the globe. If you try to run away you will die, because everything else will be a deadly toxic wasteland.

It will be a privilege to live there. Everything will be monitored and the citizens will be happy to be alive. Probably these will be 1% of the world's population or some genetically engineered plebs with a programmed cast level (workers, thinkers, the elite). Everything what doesn't have to be done by humans will be done by machines.

Basic income is a meme to keep the masses calm. Once the normies realize it's a slaughter time they will go all nuts, because they still believe they are somehow valuable because of some moral reasons that have no basis in the physical reality. Human history is like a river. People come and people go. People are disposable energy units.

Read:
Silent weapons for quiet wars
syti.net/GB/SilentWeaponsGB.html
youtube.com/watch?v=s_38tsQ4p0I

Checkout out this channel:
Exposing the Dark Agenda Behind the "Resource-Based Economy"
youtube.com/watch?v=wNkDiBOO4H0

Science, Technocracy, and Social Control - Jerry Day on The Corbett Report
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Terrorist =/= exclusively retarded goatfuck terrorist factions.

Okay, then let it collapse for DOTR. Right Wing Droid Squads when?

Firstly automation in a closed economy with strong tarffis would make little difference as resource extraction would need to increase to supply the larger capital infrastructure and interaction with a variable and randomized environment is something which cannot be automated without hard AI, which may in fact be impossible with silicone diode computing, which would necessitate creating organic computing substrates from scratch, which is difficult as the initial investment will be hard to justify since early biologic computers are likely to be far less useful than the mature inorganic technology.

Secondly we are running into very real limitations on computing imposed not by engineering by physical principles such as waste heat, maximum circuit density(also involves waste heat as well), maximum material strength as dictated by the strong and weak atomic forces, and the maximum size of an integrated circuit as limited by the speed of light. I'd expect near total technological stagnation within 70 years as technology fully matures and we reach the limits of what is materially possible in ways which cannot be overcome though engineering.

This rapid change in technology has resulted in us eating all the low hanging fruit. Even now major changes are not due to the study and implementation of new physical principles as they were 100 years ago but through the application of known principles(information technology revolution post 1985 for example). We have made so many observations above the Planck and below the super-cluster scale that there is little left to discover which can be applied to our macroscopic, microscopic,and atomic world which we operate in. Realivity didn't change the Newtonian calculates of cars moving significantly enough to change the principle of vehicle construction. In the same way new discoveries(which are decreasing through time) are less and less applicable to practical matters.

One simple solution which might be a biologic necessity to ensure proper reproduction and the maintenance of society is to forbid women from economic activity of any sort. The goal of life is survival and putting women back in the home by force would likely increase fecundity, which is what we are deficient in rather than economic efficiency.

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This.

Also checked.

Capitalism is not the only possible economic system.

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I was born in a small town in Germany where people somewhat cared about another.

Now even in mid sized cities nobody gives a shit anymore and average joe acts extremely autistic / egocentric with no fucks given outside his little bubble.

I foresee some dystopian place where most people live in squalor, but only time will tell…

Guess that horseshoe theroy has some wight to it

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This isn't of greatest concern.

What we should look out for is recursive general intelligence. Self-learning AI. Imagine a sophisticated articulating machine that is networked with others to perfectly execute tasks. Thinking and reasoning with super-human precision.

In the very best scenario we manage to merge with the machines with a "neural-lace". Technically that means we won't go extinct but only technically. Flesh and blood human beings WILL be surpassed and superseded.

What, you don't want your values satisfied through friendship and ponies?

Losing jobs is progress, pleb. If our ancient Aryan ancestors weren't able to harness slave labor, they would have never been able to domesticate animals, and then eventually create technology and culture. Doing things that we can have machines do is fucking stupid, and the only negative side effects of it are because of our shitty society.

This is covered decently in Mein Kampf, but is also a cornerstone of ancient history if you study Aryans

It's a shitty line which is completely wrong. And you're a dumb goy for believing it.

They claim automation replaces jobs while they're really just going to some sweatshop in communist china. Automation is nowhere near the point of actually replacing a large job base. The closest they're at right now is order screens instead of someone taking your order which isn't even getting rid of the job as that person would also have been preparing food and now they just prepare food. Please stop listening to kikes while they try to make you less concerned about your industry leaving your country.

Friendship is Optimal (and the stories it inspired) gave me that strange feeling of being both terrified and envious of the people being uploaded.
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