Hello fellow leftists, what are your thoughts on 'Burkini Ban'?

An antireligious (all religions) government would be pretty cool tho

I too was 15 once

just how autistic exactly are you?

this.

France has a history of selling out their own citizen.
the Jewish community back in ww2 learned it the hard way.

you have some good philosophers and leaders once in a while who'll try to make fair laws and build a grate nation.
but those are rare, and the average French isn't any different from the average redneck.

tl;dr, France is a lie, and they'll betray their principles when its convenient

This.

seriously though tell me one positive effect this will have besides poking a beehive that already lets of bombs and AKs on a near monthly basis?

How is it racist? Is Islam a race?

Honestly, I think it`s fine. If it leads to Muslim integration into culture of majority it can`t be bad.

It's a good move, if the muslims like burkini, they can go back to Iran or Saudi Arabia.

Indeed, those who disbelieve in Our verses - We will drive them into a Fire. Every time their skins are roasted through We will replace them with other skins so they may taste the punishment. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted in Might and Wise.

I'm against it, but you can't deny that the burkini is a clothing of oppression which they have no choice of.

wew

the result of this will be they just don't go the beach and be even more insular

what wonderful, insightful verses. Mohammed was a true Lucretius.

And they make young youths memorize the Quran in Saudi Arabia.

wew

NO GODS NO MASTERS

Ebin meme

exactly why would it lead to integration?

Religion is the opiate of the masses.

Unless it's fucking Islam for some reasons.

It encourages muslim to lose their identities.

You dumb tankie. Banning certain cultural or religious clothing doesn't make people go "oh well might as well integrate!", it makes people angry and more likely to dislike whatever you want them to integrate into.

It's the same as Saudi Arabia banning bikinis but in the other way.

Would you also ban opium?

Do you think banning something makes it go away?

Provide me with some evidence.

So the original Burka ban caused integration then?

Or did it precede a slew of attacks?

You are a fucking moron

Don't worry, the liberals will have you when you graduate college.

Except Saudi Arabia banning of bikini actually turns the countries more muslims.

And now you get arabs from the area who love burkha better than western clothings.

their not very subtle way of saying mussies not welcome anymore.
Pretty sure Holla Forums is right about Europe heading towards a religious civil war. Not exactly the first time.

Does the banning of burkini will make burkini go away? We shall see.

Muslims get more and more radicalized as more and more muslims come.

YOU ARE NOT WELCOME

but integrate plz cos we say so.

This is how retarded you cunts are

And as we all know, if you make the Muslims angry they'll start bombing and shooting people.

France are literally encouraging terrorism.

I have a friend of a friend who wears one. Her husband doesn't care if she does or not.

Most Muslim women choose to wear head covers etc, and take offence to people getting telling them what to do.

Also, what type of ultra Muslim conservative takes his wife to the beach?

presidential election is soon.
they're baiting the redneck.
the next 9 months are going to be a race for who's going to persecute Muslims the most.

Sarkozy, being the usual populist bitch is already allover it.

I'm not talking about the Burkini going away, I am talking about radical Islam.

Or do they get more and more radicalised the more and more we carpet bomb the fuck out of the middle east and persecute them in the west?

More to the point, do more and more of them come after we carpet bomb their homes?

Is there any good alternative leftist? Or is it all just porkies in disguise like Hollande?

The ban will only radicalise Muslims to commit non-Islam related terror attacks :^)

France's hands are tied.

I read that as bakunin ban, and almost typed it as bakunin band.
Either way its fucking stupid, pointless, petty, and spiteful.

Whether you think 'well we shouldn't surrender to terrorists' or not, it's pointless to inflame tensions for no reason. In Norn Iron Republicans/Loyalists generally aren't allowed to parade through the neighbourhoods of the other side. Should we have to make restrictions like that? No probably not, but it limits pointless anger on both sides.

This ban is even more silly than marching through opposition territory because there's no rights argument for it whatsoever, it's just attacking the rights of Muslims

Radical Islam ain't never going away, just like fascism, monarchism or any right wing ideology, should we just let fascism have their swatiskas then? And open denial of the Holocaust?
The muslims have been radicalized ever since the jews gotta into Israel.
Most of the refugees don't even come from Syria.

did you fags learn nothing from prohibition?

Ah yes, the lazy Chomskyist rebuttal. I bet you think liberating Iraq from Hussein and Libya from Gaddafi was a bad idea too.

We would see if the burkini indeed gets vanished.

It's not a very popular piece of clothing.

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you mean there's open defecation happening regularly on the streets of Paris? and regular random rapes?

And among them are those who listen to you, but We have placed over their hearts coverings, lest they understand it, and in their ears deafness. And if they should see every sign, they will not believe in it. Even when they come to you arguing with you, those who disbelieve say, "This is not but legends of the former peoples."

Denial of the holocaust is literally an opinion, dude.

That's even lesser than wearing an onesie.

Yes. These ideas fester underground like a wound, they need to be in the open so they can heal.

They need to be discussed. Not martyred. History is literally littered with examples of this.

Take FARC in Columbia for example. That is but one example of what happens when you start banning opinions.

So, you agree then? The cause is western imperialism, not MUH RULIGION

Syria is the only country we have bombed is it?

Jesus christ you people make me sick with your ignorance.

Please PLEASE try to tell me it is, it would make me so happy.

How come France was the one to come up with "Laïcité" while any other Muslim-majority country doesn't have it? I thought everyone was the same and equal?

really makes you think…

Seriously though, there's no point in this. It doesn't help integration. And it also gives something for them to point out and say "see, the west really does hate you!".

If you're fine with it because you fucking hate Muslims, try being practical. This shit is pointless.

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So.. Iraq is liberated right now? Or is it full of ISIS?

Christopher Hitchens kill yourself.

youtube.com/watch?v=nik0273l8K4

what does this even mean?

Ah, what? An open wound would get infected more.
Dude, FARC mellowed out and surrendered to the government, man.
Do you deny the jews of their ancestral homeland? Are you an anti-semite?
Actually, currently yeah.

I mean, we bombed Vietnam years ago, I guess that means we should still accept vietnameses for that?

It means it's very likely the burkini will actually vanish because the majority of the population doesn't even like it.

If the muslims start more shit, the population will hate them more.

Well, I guess we need to cover up more!

than one buried in dirt?

after the longest running civil war in the last 100 years and one of the most brutal conflicts the world has ever known, sure.

troll

Yemen, but you are a troll.

When did I say that?

Than one being covered up and treated, yes.
Dude, you are not talking about Vietnam here.
What? Don't play favorite now.
It's the saudis who ban yemen though.

You ask for modest swimming suit!

Fucking tankies are spooked beyond repair.

If culture is a spook, then a burkini ban is warranted.

You have no reading comprehension

OK?

I guess this is like the reverse of that image of old Iran vs now Iran, with burkhas are considered a good thing cuz muh muslim culture and bikini being bad.

Yes. You say these ideas won't go away, yet you want to ban them? The ideas go away when people have no need for them, not by forcing people what to do or think.

OK, I agree with you.

Let have swastikas and holocaust denial.

How about nazi memorandum event too?

telling women what to wear on the beach will probably help in the fight against terrorism

I mean, yeah, burkhas can actually hide bombs.

Who'd bomb a beach?

Kek

The USA.

If people want it, banning it will just make them angry, give them a reason to complain, let them 'prove' they are oppressed, get others thinking "hmm, if it's banned then the govt is hiding something…"

Free exchange of ideas and thoughts is the only way to prove the worth of anything you say.

Exceptional logic

If it doesn't have water it's a desert, not a beach.

how many people have hidden bombs under a fucking burka you fucking tard? lol
are you going to ban bags and luggage next?

Indeed, I support you my dude.

In fact, I'm really down to a nazi march down the street.

hey, I didn't say they aren't welcome, or that they should integrate, or that I want a civil war.
Just that I think it's coming.

Actually, a lot of muzzie women hide bombs, guns and even RPG under burkhas.
Nah, we are just going to search them.

Remember WW2?

are we still talking about france?
fucking moron

also
you actually believe
they can hide a fucking bomb
under a fucking "burkini"?
jesus fuck you're one persistently retarded little cunt, lmao

No I wasn't born yet.

Suicide vest is a thing in France, and you can have a suicide vest under a burkha.

Sure, they can.

A bomb isn't that big of a thing.

It's a shitposter m8

Read book.

How?

Read words in book.

You're a retard. Have a good life with your head in the sand.

damn son
when you gonna run out of that shit you're on that drives you to such hights of retardedness?

Dude, calling people retard isn't a good way to win an argument.

Are you denying that you can hide suicide vest under a burkha, an already real thing?

Culture is not a spook. Cultural integration is.

I guess Holla Forums was right, you just hate the West.

A burkha without the head covering is just a long sleeved dress

I'd wager more guns have been hidden in long coats. Should they be banned?

And you are going to search every bag or piece of luggage that comes onto a beach? Mate, you are being purposefully dumb here.

That doesn't even make sense to me.

You have to integrate into a culture in order to have a culture, nobody's born with culture.

And? Suicide vest can be hidden that.

I mean people are already doing that.

Except you can't search burkini or burkha on a whim.

i'm saying this isn't a thing that 1. happened in france 2. is anything practical or exceptional to the dress or 3. any other way of hiding a bomb and 4. you're talking about a fucking beach cloth you fucking tard
you fail to adress any of these points and just keep talking shit, you're retarded and a faggot and need to go fuck off and eat dicks

You can hide a gun in trousers, jackets, shirts, dresses, in a bag, or I'm sure in the USA you could just walk around with it on your hip.

I guess the only option then is a nudist beach. Ban all clothes.

Or just nudist world, since you can hide a gun anywhere.

Maybe you could stick a gun up your arsehole and hide it there user.

But suicide vest bombing is already happening in France.

America also wants to ban muslim immigration btw.

I like me a nudist beach, good idea actually.

Everyone be safe and sexy.

not in a fucking burka you stupid cunt

Nigger has never heard of female suicide bomber?

You can hide a suicide vest easier under a heavy coat than a burka you twat, I don't see people calling for them to be banned. I wonder if it's because non muslims wear them

you still have not quoted one case in france where a suicide vest, or anything at all, was hidden under a burkah, faggot

I wonder what the French actually think. Le Pen is polling consistently well and a small clothing ban is only the start.

Ok, let me break it down for you.
Cultural integration is a very specific term that refers to the process of actively bending and twisting the cultural identity of a group of people so that it matches the cultural identity of the majority of the society in question.

This notion works under the assumption that the culture of the majority is, in its entirety, a more 'advanced' culture. This is the core of the spookyness of the matter.

However, this can go even deeper. The mass population movements that are pretty common in a global capitalist reality (bringing cheap labour-power in places where expensive commodities are being sold) are actually the source of such a need for cultural equalisation. In a moneyless, classless society such extensive population movements are not needed since people can live and thrive where they are currently located.

It's because non-muslims don't actually suicide bomb all that much.

Yeah, burkha is not actually banned yet, we can wait for that to happen!

wrong referal

this refers to

there is François Asselineau, he founded the UPR (political party)
he's the closest French equivalent of Ron Paul, a based man, with a solid program about everything including immigration, without hate or anger.
a true follower of De Gaule.

sadly, just like for Ron Paul, there is a media blackout about him.
despite his solid arguments, he's not Trashy enough to make the news.

we're living sad times.
its a shame really

you still have not cited one case of the bullshit you have claimed, faggot

Since Muslims aren't banned from wearing coats either you're literally just shitposting

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We should wait for it to happen then.

Does that mean muslims should be banned from wearing coat?

It means you should be banned from wearing coats.

I don't get it.

If culture isn't a spook, then why isn't it spooky to get someone under the majority's culture, it doesn't matter right?

What, why?

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faggot

Suicide vest happened in France.

Female suicide bomber is already a regular thing in the Middle east.

Put two things together.

you still fail to quote one single case of the already happened attack where a burkha covering a suicide vest was a thing

Well, as said, burkhas aren't banned yet, so let's wait for that.

In France they are banned

you made claims
you fail to deliver any backing up
you're a faggot

Welp, so it's never gonna happen then.

Can't do cuz the burkhas are already banned, the french actually thought one step ahead of me.

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People should be free to wear whatever they want.

Or nothing at all.

I like girls wearing nothing at all.

faggot

Well, only the face (not the head) covering is banned for separate reasons.

If you mean the loose dark colored dress which is where you claim they'd actually hide the bombs, that isnt banned

you're an idiot if you think that burkas are the only way to hide an explosive vest.
you're trying to defend something that isn't defendable.

unless they're ugly, fat or old.
i prefere them to be under 15 if possible

Well, muslims bomb themselves a lot, and I'm sure only muslims wear burkha.

Oh, I eagerly wait for the news then.

Maybe the banning of this burkini might "provoke" some female muslims to suicide bomb in France.

you should all be gulaged you fucking liberals. if you support ANY religious barbarism, at least do us all a favor and don't call yourself communists/anarchists/whatever else you style yourselves

god i hate liberals so much

choke on my cock you illiterate fuckwit

i'm a socialist, I don't want to abolish the state

i want the state to be a vanguard for the people's interest, and to gulag liberal faggots like you along with your mudslime 15th century barbarian friends

i bet you're american too

Might want to visit a library yourself someday anarkid.

Communism is a stateless classless society.

In any theory the vanguard you talk about is only there to facilitate this society.

Seriously you have this little knowledge?

Again, not a communist, a socialist. Socialism has a state. Fuck off and read a book.

Actually IIRC the record for suicide bombings is held by the Tamil Tigers, who were secular Marxists

You are a socialist so that society can be socialist forever?

Whose theories do you base this on?

So you are literally just an authoritarian Soc Dem?

communism is the END GOAL. a stateless society needs years and years of socialism in order to be facilitated, exactly because reactionaries like religious and conservative people cannot exist.

read a fucking book anarkiddie

oh, so you are a communist

Hell no, I fully support revolution but I don't think that we need to get rid of governments and have some direct democracy utopia. The state is made out to be this evil boogeyman by anarchists and an-caps when it's just a tool.

you're embarrassing yourself

A tool to bring about communism, the stateless, classless society.

I'm really not

Non issue that's being highlighted by the media because it's much easier to pointlessly debate about rather than focus on the uncomfortable fact that there is mass sympathy among French Muslims for ISIS, that they are committing mass slaughter of French people frequently, have joined ISIS in huge numbers and they have become a huge fifth column in the country all despite the fact that French people providing them with free healthcare, housing, job programs and welfare. Just ignore the influx of hundreds of thousands of more of them and focus on the huge problems of democracy in Poland (anyone still remember that?). Liberals love to spend time debating it on Facebook generating money for Zuckerberg and writing articles (news products) about it not just because it allows them to yet again stand up to the evil western white man (who doesn't kill them if they do, as opposed to Muslim men) but especially because it allows them to ignore the problem of Islam. It will be forgotten about within two weeks tops because they don't really care about it and they have the memory of hamsters and it was emotional deflection all along and they like controversies that project a narrative/story with clear roles that allow us to project our identity/emotions instead of frankly looking at a situation.

Wrong.

stop shitposting kid, read a book in all seriousness

I'm not one pretending I'm not a communist if I'm a socialist

right

just like says

you should read marx and lenin before posting here

you should then research what lenin did to religious people

this isn't about explosives, its about banning muslims from being muslims in public places.

I have read both of them.

You are seriously telling me to read Lenin and then telling me the state isn't a tool to bring about communism?

I'm the one embarrassing myself here?

Seriously?

You really don't understand fundamental concepts of the ideology you are defending? Any of you? Really that is how shitty this board is?

One of you retards better give me an answer or this place is officially complete cancer

Really nobody is going to own up to this? Sweet jesus.

These are the kind of fucking retards who want to ban the Burka.

ignorant Crypto pollack poser edgemasters talking tough about gulags and hating Islam

muuuh you are just an anarkiddie.

Fucking please. I've read more about your beliefs than you have.

When your balls drop lets us know.

This is hilarious. The denial is astounding.

You think I give a shit about you making some puerile testicle joke?

The fact is you were dead fucking wrong.

Particularly the guy who told me to read Lenin. That is comedy gold.

lmao

can you be any more of a pretentious faggot?

Honestly that is fucking horrendous, the picture undersells it actually, there are two more cops on the scene.
We have reached a point were 5 armed men can order a woman to take off her clothes for equality and freedom i guess…

How is this any different from Irans Morality Police fining women for too loose hijabs?

(This is also simply the continuation of Frances colonial obsession with muslim womens bodys…)

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[strawman intesifies]

take 2

poljw's and tankjw's in a nutshell.

Oh by the way lenin wasn't actually a communist :):):):):)

Is this a women's issue or a religious one? Or, dare I say, intersectional?

gr8, now France is on par with the worst theocratic shitholes.

[citation needed]

its neither. Its a fucking, the state shouldn't dictate what clothes you wear, issue. One of those

Yeah no. It will probably work, just like the Chinese beard ban for muslim males.

So you're happy for brownshirts to wear political uniform, for sake of argument?

It definetly intersects, it wouldnt be treated that way if it wasnt muslims and if it werent women.
You dont see anyone wanting to ban the Taqiyah or something.

The reasons for banning it are obviously just becuase they can and it gives mad populism cred. A Burkini has nothing to do with islamism.

This obsession to unviel has been on the french states mind since the colonial age. "liberate" the exotic oriental women, so they can become better objects for desire, (if they want it or not) and humiliate their men, just to show them whos boss…
This is just a diiferent form of it.

Please go live in saudi and wear a bikini so someone will finally rid the earth of you

so cute that you think ragheads are this desired, why do you think goatfucking and child raping is a confirmed practice in the middle east? Those creatures are not being covered up for their "beauty"
No one wants your ugly sand women, Europe has all the women it needs.

Pay no attention to actual history then, its not like the colonial orientalisation included the massive exotisiation and fetishisation of women in the colonies…oh wait it did…

Nothing wrong with modesty.

It is a "look we are addressing the problem" while not addressing the problem and possibly making it worse. The French would be better of if the French government did nothing.

You mean the same history that says that the founding fathers all fucked their nigger salves despite having much more attractive fertile women on hand? The same history that says our settlers ancestors did the same thing despite genetic evidence in regions accused of this saying otherwise? It's almost like there is an agenda to portray all of western societies historical figureheads as race traitors, I wonder what the reason for this could be :^)

yeah no, look at colonial era art, music, propaganda, all that shit…
its in there

This is what happens if you let women drive
or travel without a mahram.

Hi Holla Forums

i never thought that one day i'd hade so many political opinions in common with feminists
amazing !

It's a step in the right direction.

gee, i wonder who's behind this very objective and totally not biased post

Colonialism did the same to African and Ameican natives, except in reverse: they forced them to cover up. Both covering up and unveiling, along with the obsession of "saving brown women from brown men", we're just ways to establish their hegemony over the people.

sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091021115147.htm

i find fascinating how Holla Forumstards end up believing their own lies, pure brainwashig.
being a stormlard is actually a religion, but are refuse to see fact and science

One hundred per cent

You are so fucking retarded

If I was a cartoonist I'd make super hero called Burkhini Banner Man His super power would be Bukhini Banning and his nemesis would be global terrorism

Truly this man believes in nothing. Is there any humanity left in him? I guess we will never know for sure.

Yep, solid causal explanation. This is what Holla Forumsfags actually believe.

they actually do.
when the whole thing started, Holla Forums was a meme.
they were edgy for the sake of being edgy without ulterior motive.
as time went by, new fags came in and started to belie the meme were real.
the whole thing ended up into a vicious cycle where they fuel eachother's had, but non of it has any source in the real world.
you end up with radicalized morons who'll shoot up a black curch or beat up a brown guy just because they're brown

God, now you are sounding like one of these comics.

but guise… guise… it's not fascism when we do it, remember terrorisms?

They gonna arrest other middle-aged women who go fully clothed to the beach as well?
What a load of shit.

Just like Murka did after those nine elevens, France risks losing worldwide moral support with shit like this.

That said, at least they haven't invaded Iraq yet.

So leftists are more willing to side with ISIS if shit like this keeps happening?

Trump is shit so the Left must support Hillary!

burkas/burkinis are as much a non-issue as transgendered toilets

Everyone form S█████ people to communist party of united states supports Hillary.

Jesus Christ, are beaches in Europe really just a bunch of smooth rocks?

This.

Tbh, it's fucking spooky to care so much about a women trying to wear a special bikini. Who the hell cares.

I'm baffled this could even be an issue. It's pretty much the "Halal controversy" all over again — shallow, populist nonsense whose only true aim is to capitalize on anti-Muslim sentiment.

It's particularly silly when you know that the current paradigm for Western swimwear originated largely in the '60s. Before that, public opinion was divided in a way not unsimiliar to that of Western-born Muslim opinion. Also, reminder that Annette Kellermann was arrested for public indecency in 1907 Massachusetts for wearing pic related and that such bans continued well into the '20s.

Oops, forgot pic related.

There a fuckton of different beaches, from rocks to fine sand to mud.

It's pretty stupid. I was told by someone it's just under another already existing law. Basically there is a law where you cant display your religion in a hugely obvious way. So its a no attention whoring law. Instead of banning them they should outlaw coerce people to dress a certain way so they can just arrest extremists but they still get to wear what they want out of their own will.

this law is completely illegal, according to article 9 of the European human right convention France signed.

but i guess those were just nice words to make people feel better about themselves.

like the other user, this is a catastrophic way to capitalize on the anti-islam/populist.
basically, the official are baiting the least educated of the voters because they're more numerous.

not only this goes against the relligious fredom of a certain group, they also severely harmed their own country.

thicc

Shows how little you know, Mick.

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i'm French, enlighten me.

Show me you're French first

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good, islam is a threat to everything

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Assuming you're actually French living in France and not just some schmuk who obtained citizenship because your parents/spouse is French

What about your country do you want me to tell you about?

Why can't frogs learn english and expect everyone it speak french?

They do learn english, they just don't speak it because why would you ever not speak French in France? It's the country's language, ergo if you are in that country you speak it.

Sure. But then they go on vacation AND STILL DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH!

Also, so I should only be speaking Greek to the tourists?

That's because they're probably talking amongst themselves (other French). French aren't the only ones who do this. You seem to have a particular experience in mind, care to share?

If you are proud of your country, and think that Greek is something everyone should learn, yes.

Just kill all the fucking muslims.
Leftists who protect muslims either don't know anything about Islam or a leftist sjw cuck.

80% of french I serve don't speak english.
There is no reason not to speak english, as it only makes communication harder.

Get despooked. French is a faggotry anyway.

love it.

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