What's the general consensus on ReactOS? Kind of seems like a "worst of both worlds" thing to me (having done little research).
ReactOS
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Jose Thompson
Interesting project, but sadly hopeless. The development is way too slow and Microshaft will probably shut them down if they get anywhere.
Blake Campbell
Impossible to shut them down legally, they did nothing illegal.
Kevin Gonzalez
nobody said legally
Kayden Cox
it's like gnu but instead of ripping off unix it is ripping off windows.
Adrian Gutierrez
I have some hope for it. I don't think it'll ever go mainstream for consumers, but if it gets good enough and stable enough, I could see it being attractive to the corporate world to replace some Windows workstations or servers since it's free.
Jacob Cook
How would you do that for a russia funded OS
what both worlds?
It's just windows built from scratch using wine.(which btw helps the wine project)
Xavier Thomas
Big companies can afford to constantly keep suing smaller companies, even if it's something they know the big company can't win. The idea is that the larger company knows the constant lawsuits will drive the smaller one's resources down, probably to the point where it massively affects how the smaller company works. We saw something very similar when Intel helped kill of Cyrix with a ton of frivolous lawsuits Intel knew it couldn't win. But it drained Cyrix of resources to the point Cyrix could no longer make a competitive product.
Angel Kelly
when the bigger company loses a case, they should have to pay the defendants legal fees
Isaiah Campbell
It's great, but sadly the development is too slow. There aren't that many devs, testers or donations. They moved to GitHub recently so it might become more popular among the devs. Hopefully they'll provide a viable OS by the end of 2021. It already has some good features, but needs to become more stable. It will never be a 1:1 Windows alternative since some proprietary parts will be illegal to even replicate, or impossible to replicate so any software relying too heavily on the Windows wall garden will be unstable or absent from ReactOS
Aaron Carter
Unless the russian government starts dedicating teams of programmers to it to try and replace windows, you aren't going to see it actually used as an OS. What you will see is benefits as advancements they make are funneled into Wine.
Chase Fisher
They do, but they'll go to the next higher court before, delaying everything. Have fun paying out of the ass for (((lawyers))) for years. What good is getting your money back if you go bankrupt years before that happens?
The (((legal system))) is rigged in favor of big (((corporations))) which can just bleed their opponents dry before a verdict is reached.
Wyatt Gutierrez
By that logic GNU, Linux and the BSD forks should have been shut down by UNIX proprietors, and things like Wine or Mono shut down by Microsoft by now.
Oliver Lee
I never cared for Windows. FreeDOS is ok.
Austin Howard
No
Colton Torres
I wonder if there's a way to take ReactOS's interface and install it on top of current Winblows.
Justin Clark
If they'd come out of alpha 15 years ago, they could have been game-changing. As it is, they're increasingly irrelevant. There is perhaps some potential utility in ReactOS as a free minimal OS for running Windows-only software in VMs, but these days I struggle to think of any Windows-only software that would make me bother.
They went the way of the HURD.
Thomas Kelly
You literally can
Luke Reyes
It's got a long way to go until it's useful. I'm doubtful it will reach that point before fizzling out.
It's still a risk that some companies can't afford to take, and even if it was an open and shut case, they would only be paid at the end. Only one side has the ability to pay an all-star legal team for years on end.
Dylan Smith
There's a lot of enterprise software that is wangblows only.
Robert Martin
Depends on what you're doing. The only thing I personally use Windows for is video editing.
Apparently DAWs are also something only useful on Windows or OSX because of VST plugin support.
If you aren't doing any of those things, you're in luck
Brayden Cox
True, and if it's functional enough to be a viable VM guest OS running those apps, then I fully support any enterprises that use it to give Microsoft the finger.
So what is the state of ReactOS these days? I played around with it years ago and found it not viable for any serious use.
Matthew Scott
there are still movie theaters and atm machines using windows 98 or xp because they never they never upgraded their software. and they continuously rebuy licences, reactos would make it free and more secure.
Cameron King
I'd appreciate further information on that regard.
Nicholas Martinez
It can decently run many (if not most) games pre-XP and even some after that. It can even run Skyrim.
Liam Butler
Why not using GNU/Linux with WINE or the comercial version CrossOver?
Tnx, good to know.
Joshua Long
Aside from their BASIC interpreter, DOS is literally the only decent thing Microsoft ever made.
Jackson Russell
They bought DOS
Jason Martinez
Which one though?
Adrian Torres
I've never used CrossOver. Is it really what it claims to be or is it some shoddy shit?
Matthew Bennett
Microsoft didn't make DOS. They didn't make Skype or Minecraft either. They just bought those finished products and made them worse.
Austin King
I tried it a few years ago and it was too broken at the time to run correctly. I don't know if it has made any progress since 2015, when I last played with it.
Dylan Reed
Why not using GNU/Linux with WINE or the commercial version CrossOver?
because they are using code that was written in the 80's or 90's and never upgraded.
Jonathan Bennett
Hey, MSX were the best z80 machines around.
Though, I guess MS's involvement in this project was quite limited.
Lincoln Turner
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Anthony Flores
Xavier Richardson
Only used WINE, but only heard good about CrossOver, and it's helping WINE because they contribuate back to it, or at least did since a while ago. Don't need Windows programs, but could imagine to try it for gaming.
It doesn't matter how old, as long as no bugs have been found.
Jacob Jones
They still have many years to go before it becomes usable for any non-experimental scenario. I mean, they recently added ultra-experimental NTFS support. Sound is still a broken mess.
I donate to them from time to time but it's just tiny bits here and there.
Easton Johnson
Pretty much this famalam
Parker Allen
Literally anyone can help out and code if they know how. its open source. if you know how to write drivers help out, if you know how to make ui help out. if you can report bugs or try to run programs and get bug reports than do it.
its only as fast as the developers can code in their free time. if a small percentage of linux users decided to code reactos instead of their meme os's it would be out of alpha.
Christopher Adams
It's cancer.
Luis Fisher
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Gavin Murphy
IBM went to the doors of Digital Research wanting an OS for their fledgling microcomputer. CP/M-86 wasn't ready, and when Gary Kildall's wife refused to sign an NDA after advised to from DRI's attorney, the IBM execs got butthurt and went to Microsoft who originally pointed them towards DRI. Seattle Computer Products were at the time working on a CP/M-86 compatible system they called 86-DOS. Microsoft bought the rights to this system, told IBM they had an OS for their microcomputer, and a year later there was the IBM PC 5150, running PC-DOS or MS-DOS, courtesy of Microsoft.
When DRI had a working version of CP/M for x86 platforms, and after a series of lawsuits were able to force IBM to provide it as an option for the IBM PC... however it was much, much more expensive than PC-DOS or MS-DOS at the time, so nobody bought it.
Gary Kildall was embittered about it for many, many years up until his death in '94 when he got drunk and fell down at a biker bar.
Easton Phillips
It could emulate BSOD on my rig
Asher Smith
The whole point is that it should be fully compatible with windows drivers, let's not reinvent the wheel too much.
This is the last thing to worry about. The project is in alpha, a proper UI is something you'd start working on in late beta. And the current UI is fine enough. It's an OS made for old computers and work machines. Any user themes should be separate.
Kys kiddo.
Nicholas Martin
oi wtf
Christian Jones
Uh huh...
Juan Jones
God, and here I thought that autism wasn't widespread. Guess I was wrong.>>882130
Brayden Sullivan
Has anyone tried running any of the following programs on it yet?
-Valve Hammer Editor
-ZHLT compiler
-Milkshape 3D
-Photoshop CS2
I'd like to relive my teenage years.
Isaiah Gonzalez
Goldsrc works well in ReactOS. I'm not sure about ZHLT compiler, or milkshape for that matter.
PS CS2 works on Reactos just well.
Landon Anderson
they should have tbh
MACH is the future
Dominic Young
kek
Oliver Allen
RoS is x500 better than Wine but forever reason nobody wants to help develop it, so its moved at a snails pace for 20 years.