Your thoughts on left-Rothbardians/Agorists/market anarchists

Your thoughts on left-Rothbardians/Agorists/market anarchists.

Just leftwashed ancraps?
Comrades?

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Isn't that mutualism?

Just read a book. The guy on the leftist is a mutualist.

Yes, although he's seen like the father of current left-libertarians, I should have picked somebody else.

I was thinking about left-Rothbardians/Agorists.

Kill em all

The father of libertarians if fucking Proudhon. All libertarians are leftists.

Yankee revisionists reeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Pure wishful thinking. Their attempts at fixing capitalism are socdem tier except socdem policies are actually enforceable.

If they're actually anarchists, they aren't looking to fix capitalism.

What the literal fuck

Kevin Carson I would say is a socialist, but the rest of the guys at c4ss are some variation of an-cap or other. They consider themselves anti-capitalists for a number of legitimate reasons.

I also like Sheldon Richman, but mostly because he triggers the reason/Republican audience with his anti-war stuff.

You disgust me

What does this even mean?

we should teach them about oscar wilde, renzo novatore and max stirner basically

Left-rothbardians are definitely a real thing. Or at least they call themselves that. They're part of the reason why "left-libertarian" isn't synonymous with "libertarian socialist". Embarrassingly though, they have to call themselves left rothbardian because the man became a fascist later in life, around when co-opting the new left stopped being practical.

Rothbard went through a phase of reaching out to leftists. During this time he would empbasize common ground with the New Left, like being against the Cold War and being anti-corporate state capitalism. And then when that stopped being useful to advance his awful ideology, he started to reach out to the fringes of the far right.

Kevin Carson self-identifies as mutualist.

Yeah. But there are a few other writers that identify as mutualism that I would say are not socialist.

Mutualism is socialism. Kevin even said that mutualism is "free-market" socialism.

If they aren't libertarian socialists, they aren't "left-libertarians".

Not to you, but it doesn't mean that people don't actually identify as that. People like Roderick Long, Gary Chartier, Sheldon Richman, etc.

Yeah, I'm not sectarian in the sense that I denounce the title of anybody that I don't like as a "socialist" but I'm deeply suspicious of many of these guys. Kevin is an actual mutualist, so he's fine, but the other guys seem like liberals and not actual anarchists.

So are they basically people that believe in praxology and Austrian "economics" but want every business to be a co-op?

I know, I'm just being more precise about his position.

Are you saying Kevin is not a mutualist? Explain how, if that's the case.

How the hell can you be a mutualist and not a socialist? That's what I mean when I say that I'm deeply suspicious about them.

so i found this thread
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