Once communism is achieved, what will the age of consent be?

It will probably stay the same it is now.
Unless I'm mistaken the left has abandoned the "dude consenting prepubescents lmao" meme

It shouldn't be a single number, but rather follow a pattern of:

- 1 year older
- same age
- 1 year younger

For people ? - 20. People in their early 20's can date/have sex with more, but ~24 or 25 is when they can fuck anyone 22-ish and up. It should be this way due to brain development, and shielding young, emotionally/mentally immature older teens and young adults with little life experience from predatory adults.

Probably around 16. I mean exceptions might be made for 15 and 16 year old or whatever, but what most loli posters want, a 12 year old or younger being fucked by a virginal mid twenties guy who totally wouldn't manipulate her and would definitely take good care of her, would still remain illegal.

Age-self / 2 + 7

Sex should be outlawed.

AOC is a spook.
As long as you don't force it or physically hurt the girl then sexual play shouldn't be illegal.

Why must pedophiles/hebephiles/ephebophiles groom their victims if there's a way a grown adult can have sex with a child without forcing it? It is forcing it. It's a longer, slower, more subtle method of force than violent rape, but it's still a way to force victims into compliance/silence.

1. You're projecting. You want to fuck little girls, but not everyone who wants to fuck children wants to fuck girls.

2. An adult can't stick his dick in/put an equivalent dildo in a child ~16 and under without hurting them. Their bodies aren't made to accommodate that. You will always hurt a child by having penetrative "sex" with them. Lastly, adults having sex with children undeniably hurts children psychologically. These experiences are so traumatic, so override children's autonomy and need for respect and fair treatment from their peers (especially children from adults), that they experience increased risks of depression, PTSD, substance abuse, poor school performance, low self-esteem, and suicide, among many others. There may be a few out there who've spoken in favor of it, but they're so rare their voice might as well be silent. Don't reference these few people to justify what hurts the vast majority.

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Consent to what? Consent to kill her?

Will Anarchism allow me to produce snuff films as long as me and the other interested party are consenting?

ancapism will, at least

If socialism is a future where me and my lover can't mutually consent to letting me end his life with a belt-noose, asphyxiating him as we both masturbate until he dies/climaxes, then I think I need to reassess my stance on leftism.

in which socialist nation was it ever lowered?
it's literally nothing but a westerner anarkiddy pedophile thing

not in favor of pedos and legalisation
but i still gotta say, you're a stupid bitch

And what the fuck do you mean by "non-offense related influence on the victims psyche". I don't keep up with pedo apologist lingo. The vast majority CSA victims, from all backgrounds, experience at least one adverse effect from their abuse. It kind of seems like having been molested is the common denominator here, not some bullshit you pulled out of your ass to divert attention from molesters' culpability.

I lack the ability or charisma to groom anyone. I'm harmless.

Spooky

The age of consent mis a Spook might as well get rid of it.

This is your brain in stirner

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This.
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I don't buy the inherent harm argument. I'd guess when you were 14 you were sexually attracted to someone over 18, whether someone you knew or a celebrity or the like, do you seriously think if whatever fantasy you had had come true your life would be permanently ruined? I don't personally have strong opinions on ages of consent, but you're not making a very persuasive case when your arguments are obviously wrong if you don't simply accept them on face value.

heard that before
smh
maybe stop being such a triggered retard and actually learn to adress pedos arguments instead of shitposting your 0815 victim cult talking points
and of course
you can't go without the accusation
as if it were substitution for argumentation
not even going to bother any further with someone being this much of an over emotional bitch

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Mostly this, though I'd say that 18 acting as the point where age restriction is more-or-less lifted is probably sufficient.

The biggest issue when it comes to age of consent isn't necessarily that people of X age are utterly incapable of decision making (to a point anyways), but rather as a measure to prevent exploitative relationships that often correlate with age. Realistically a 20 year old being with even a 16 year old isn't really that big of a deal if it stands alone. The problem is that there is usually more attached to the relationship: often some form of coercion or subtle incentives given a position of greater social or material status/freedom. Obviously this isn't as big of a deal under Communism, but there is still risk of people ending up in positions of temporary power over others as a result of non-economic social circumstance.

Ok, a bit off topic but I've always wanted to ask this to pedos, in your perfect world where you can fuck whoever you want, would you drop your girl once she gets to old?

I'd never actually fuck a child. Childlike sexbots will be enough.

I'm pretty grossed out by the idea of sex with children, but it's pretty common for adults to engage in some kind of sex act up to and including intercourse with adolescents. Most of the harm done on those scenarios is probably from their social circles turning them into a spectacle.

It's actually not. Nope. Shit thread.

there is not a single state of pedo mindset
i wouldn't even be suprised of one of those "exclusively pedophile" guys would answer this with a negative

i know, people don't like to think of pedophiles as people but it's not like they're some secret kabalah with a hivemind

Just watched Breakfast at Tiffany's. The protagonist married when 12 yo like it was nothing.

all fucking should be legal with no limits. bullshit like "trauma" are capitalist and bourgeois which prevents people from enjoying their lives.

Only with Communism will I be able to have a consensual sexual relationship with Soviet Tanks.

I extend it to early to mid 20's because 25 is about when cognitive childhood ends. I definitely agree with

As it is right now, I'd be highly skeptical of a millennial, particularly one with student debt working for minimum wage, dating a baby boomer just due to, well, what you said. And poverty/the need for financial security certainly drives people to abusive relationships, or at least worryingly imbalanced relationships. To extrapolate, I would be very concerned for the happiness and emotional safety (?) of a poor person dating a rich person, just because they are more likely to stay with someone they don't like so they can get out of debt or not live on the streets, or that their partner would use that vulnerability as leverage to stay with them, particularly in an increasingly unhealthy relationship (being coerced into sex, putting up with being yelled at or hit, not being allowed to do everyday things like see your friends). Of course, victims and perpetrators can be of any age, but millennials are notably poor and boomers well-off. This is not nearly as large of a concern for me in communism, therefore I'm pretty okay with 25 year olds and 70 year olds fucking in my commune, if that's what they want to do, whereas now I'm suspicious.

It saddens me greatly to see how much the capitalist and conservative "moral war" causes even leftists to dehumanize fellow people.

A moot question. There will be no sex, as every act of penetration is inherently imperialist.

I honestly can't imagine.
How different relationships, child-creation and their education will be under communism? A lot of the actual sexual discourse is actually product of the bourgeois.
I think I'll have a more solid opinion when I read more about the subject, I was planing read The History of Sexuality anyways.

I'm assuming you are american… why do ameriburgers treat teenagers like if they are little kids still? seriously, I've never understood this.

americans are retarded

I think pedo's are mentally ill and shouldn't be left near children.

just kidding. I think they should be hung along with the right wingers.

You're a retard. The "grooming" meme we talk about is real. I don't mean sex with a 16 year old, because I've seen 16 year olds who were going on 22. We mean enticing little kids to meet with them and then pretending like sexual intercourse is "a game". You literally are a pedo apologist, stop acting like you aren't.

It really isn't with kids under 16.

Just follow this chart and you'll do great.

grooming is a meme
basically dating applied on child levels
you don't have to use shit tier arguments to be against legalisation of pedophile acts

you're a stupid shit and all i need for this is your word
i don't need to go as low as associating with some bogeyman

It's not childhood like 8 is childhood, but 16 year olds, scientifically, are not cognitively adults either, and are not mentally or emotionally on par with, say, 26 year olds, or even 22 year olds.

There doesn't have to be one. All you need is laws against rape and exploitation.

Do you seriously believe an 8 year old child is at the same cognitive level of an 18 year old and thus ? Are you that retarded? Here's a paper by acedemics about grooming small children online: arxiv.org/pdf/1208.4324.pdf But you're retarded so you're probably gonna keep spouting actual memes like saying, "x is a meme" instead of citing something that proves that a 6 year old kid is able to make as rational a decision as an adult regarding something like sex and that the vast majority of children who are groomed and then molested don't undergo some sort of trauma. If you aren't gonna back up your arguments then fuck off, we don't need more contrarians.

I don't know if I'm getting trolled or not.

and thus will be as apt as decision making*

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The run-over text on the second panel never fails to make me laugh.

i never said i'd believe that
it's entirely unrelated to the point
i'm honestly suprised you don't fucking killed yourself yet out of sheer lack of ability to form coherent thoughts

So which one is it? When we talk about grooming we talk about adults taking advantage of children who are easily influenced(because they are children) so that they can get sex from said children. So you either believe children are not susceptible to influence from adults so that the adults can get sex and thus, grooming is a meme. OR you agree children are susceptible to influence from adults that could lead to them doing sexual favours for that adult and thus you're a retard who's been acting contrarian this entire thread because that's what retards do?

So which is it? You never explained why grooming is a meme, or why you think "dating" applied on child levels is not some sort of leverage for the adult pursuing the child because of the child's lower cognitive function.

All you did was literally spout memes.

tbh I think second-wave feminism has played a bigger role in 'dehumanizing' pedos than conservatives.

Pedo's are sicko's. They're mentally ill, but yes they're human. Doesn't mean we should accept their illness anymore than schizophrenia.

That' not really an equivalent comparison when most schizophrenics haven't and won't hurt anyone and aren't campaigning for the ability to do so, like pedophiles. And to make matters worse, pedos want to do things that hurt children, who are among are most vulnerable.

i love magically animated .png files.

I never said being a pedo shouldn't be illegal.

not a chance. I'm too much of a spooked romantic.

>wanting to corrupt something so pure and innocent, rather than interacting with it how any sane adult should blowing people the fuck up with explosive shells

These posts are stupid. No sense in generalizing millions of people as if they are all exactly the same both physically and mentally.

I'm saying we can and should accept schizophrenics for their mental illness and try to help them. Pedos are irredeemable and do not deserve society's acceptance.

Is there actually anyone here who wasn't fapping to porn of people over 18 as a young teen?

No age of consent, if both parties agree to it then they can have sex.

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Sure but you'd have to provide evidence for it. In that case only yes means yes.

I'd argue the first question isn't necessary either. If they don't know what you mean by "sexual intercourse" then that already answers it. I think not being able to have sex with teenagers is a spook, a kind of patch-in fix for the fact that teenagers and adults aren't peers in modern society. Of course just like teenagers themselves are an invention that wouldn't really exist in communism, this wouldn't be the case in communism. So to answer the OP, that's how I feel. If they have reached puberty and have explored their own sexualities I see no reason why you shouldn't be able to have sex with any old person.

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I'm just saying but what they do in Japan is have particularly sensitive laws surrounding sex with teens. As in you can do it legally but it's easier to get in hot water. I don't think that's a bad route.

Yeah mate, it's a bad route

Do you have a single reason to say that?

There won't be. That applies rule of law.

implies, sorry I broke my desk.

Well, I think laws are shit anyway, but I feel that engaging in sex with anyone under the age of 16 is immoral for the fact that when i was under 16, i had no idea what choices would impact my life, and i did a lot of shit i regret. And sex, in society now, is a really sensitive thing. But that's just my personal opinion, based on my experiences.

It might just be a problem with the society, mate.

That doesn't make sex with people under 16 ethical.

Wat?

There can be no age of consents in a stateless society

If two people agree to have intercourse then they can do it, simple as that

A child consenting to intercourse is like a child consenting to signing a lease to a home or any other serious decision. It's cute but what the fuck man no, it's way over their head and they don't know what they're getting into.

i think that's the wrong question to be asking. i don't think there will be any kind of legal age of consent in a stateless society. but the ethical question of 'how mature do you have to be to know what consenting implies' is still a thing anyway.

i think the most important thing is better education when it comes to sex and i guess sexuality in general.

Communism will never be achieved as it is a pure spook. I mean all Communists ever do is deny that Communism has ever exited in the first place while at the same time they defend the idea of it violently. If that isn't a spook I don't know what is.

What stage of technological development?

AIs are still narrow and sub-human: ~16

AIs exceed human intellect by a few orders of magnitude: Anyone can, in theory, consent. AIs provide oversight via neural interfaces to ensure that nobody suffers any harm.

AIs exceed human intellect by many orders of magnitude: Everyone lives in their own personal virtual utopias. All interactions are with actors simulated by an AI - not with other humans. Humans have largely come to recognize that there is no intrinsic difference between reality and a sufficiently good simulation. The age of consent is no longer a meaningful concept since the birth rate is zero and the youngest real human is thousands of years old.

Hey.

Guess what.

**I have a friend and her fetish is to be extensively groomed and 'taken'. *

We need age of consent laws because most kids are too young to have been fully taught the contrived but correct social connotations that my culture constructs around the idea of sex. But my culture only came up with these ideas about sex because they're right and the most sensible.

Children are pure and innocent creatures and engaging in dirty and disgusting acts like sexual intercourse defiles that purity and that degrades their worth as virtuous human beings. It's just common sense that kids need to be completely protected from the dangers of sex until they turn the magical age of 18, at which point nature itself endows them with perfect sexual decision-making skills.

>>>/apng/

No one fucking thinks kids magically turn from immature naive bundles of innoce, to fully rational sensible adults at 18 or what the age of aoc is in your country. The point is that young kids aren't fully capable understanding the consequences of their actions, and to protect them from adults who could very easily manipulate them.

Look pedos, back in the day marrying your 13 year old daughter to a merchant or whatever twice her age may have been what was best for them, but now there really isn't any good reason to allow for adults to fuck kids.

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So many people memeing about spooks on the board all the time but as soon as a thread about consent age comes up everyone throws in some arbitrary age as if it is the holy grail of sexual conciousness instead of the spook that it is. Consent age laws do not stop those underage from having sex, nor does it even punish them ( just the teens more so i mean, im not saying jail little kids) like any fair law would. People can be manipulative at any age and if you look at statistics about rapists the majority are rapists starting in their teens or they start manipulating girls into sex around then and this is before they themselves even hit consent age so obviously consent laws do nothing to stop sexual exploitation of minors and even go as far as normalize and hide it. All it does is punish anyone over the age with someone younger so in reality they are not consent age laws they are discriminatory age gap relationship laws. What matters is the intent and sexual conciousness of those involved in the act of sex, not their age. Every individual both physically and mentally ages differently and it's not impossible for young to know what they are doing and someone in their 30s be immature and irresponsible as possible. Now don't get me wrong I am not saying to go out and fuck kids like some game, I am saying that you should see things for what they really are instead of devolving into a witch hunt. Normal age based laws ignore these important variables of individuality that does nothing but create victims of the law while older victims of exploitation and minors exploited by minors are not protected by the law. But if you reject the idea of using rape and exploitation laws instead of consent ages as least have a system that is flexible to the actual intent of the people involved and acknowledges individual differences.

Anfem's sage is probably traumatized by that time their creepy uncle put his fingers inside them.

Cut them some slack ,they are probably projecting badly.Their post has that "if you knew like I KNOW" tone to it.

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