I've decided to stop being a Communist. I don't know what I am now. I'm definitely not Right-Wing at all but I don't care about revolution anymore. I even think that it's very likely there will be a revolutionary moment soon, but it won't matter. Either Capitalism will find a way to self-correct like it did after ww1 and after the 60s/70s (although perhaps this time it will be more "humane" whatever that means/concerned with ecology and so on).
The reason I am no longer a Communist is because recently I've been looking at history again. Humans are unique from all other animals on the planet, in that animals of other species evolve and adapt, but virtually never question what they're doing (perhaps some apes but I don't have the literature on hand).
What makes humans different but not so different is that they change how their organizations function and you could argue that we evolve at least socially. But it's a very bizarre evolution. That is, no matter how hard we try, we're never able to negate our tendency to ultimately organize into masses which centralize power into the hands of a few who are elevated by society for no reason whatsoever other than they look good or smell good or have a lot of materials or threatened us with God or money or whatever.
We're just going to do this again. This time around it will probably be an "all power to the technocrats" scenario where people like Elon Musk or whatever end up running things in a kind of Nefeudalism with a human face. On average humans just want people to be their daddy and in the mean time everything becomes a team to defend in a big game to distract from the fact that life has no intrinsic meaning and that death devalues everything.
Good luck to all of you.
"What you aspire to as revolutionaries is a master. You will get one."-Lacan
There's really no point in becoming a "part" of anything. All movements and organizations basically exist as a distraction from self-fulfillment since that is extremely difficult to achieve. Humans just seem to prefer externalizing themselves into abstractions and defending those abstractions to the letter.
Realizing this and seeing the patter emerge over and over in history has brought me quite a bit of despair lately. I'd much prefer a Communist society to any kind of Capitalism but I just don't think we'll ever get there. IN a sense I suppose I'm making a "human nature" argument but not in defense of Capitalism but merely as an observation.
Even if we got to Communism I don't think it' take long for that pyramid of authority and arbitrary power to be built again. I'm pretty sure the environmental catastrophe, which is the only thing that is even giving any type of Socialism a glimmer of hope currently, will be smited one way or another, and after that it will just be business as usual just with a more open social element.
I just feel like there's no point in being a part of anything under these conditions. It seems like there's an autonomous desire within history for us to return to Top-Down control and for the majority to be perfectly fine with that so long as they can have their wine and sports.
Primitives had their own form of top-down social structures. The whole "primitives were anarchists" argument is a meme
Asher Ramirez
So a random, unimpressive shitposter on an image board thinks their insulting a great psychoanalyst, and somehow will convince others not to read Lacans works? He was influential, you aren't.
Grayson Parker
This is based upon an incredibly shallow understanding of anthropology and history that ignores obvious stuff like Athens, modern day paleolithic societies and the Bodou people in China.
James Johnson
Lacan was a conman.
Carson Thompson
I'm not saying literally every single human behaves exactly the same, of course there will be outliers.
I just mean generally. Every transition from one form of massive social organization to another does this pattern:
If people wanted to be Communists why not do it in or after the French Revolution? Why not do it in 1930s USA? Why not do it in May 1968?
This only goes so far. All three of the movements I listed had enormous support from the masses, if people really wanted to create a new society in these instances they could have done it but for some reason chose to take the concessions instead
Joshua Fisher
I think we've made progress. I just don't think we'll see communism happen in our lifetime and humanity needs a huge push in that direction. It almost necessitates a cataclysmic catastrophe before people get their head out of the sand. The only reason feudalism ended is because of squalor and pain.
Kayden Jackson
He wasn't a fraud. Zizek talks about how Lacan got into a deadlock after his last seminar.
Lincoln Davis
Sorry to tell you that pal, but you've never been an actual communist in the first place. It's OK though, the vast majority of people won't be before the Revolution is over anyway.
William Diaz
Social structures, maybe. But they were egalitarian
Julian Bailey
You didn't answer my question
Egalitarianism can exist in a top-down structure
Josiah Wright
This is not true though. The only reason why decentralised and libertarian societies have been destroyed historically is because of foreign invasion, because societies based on slavery tend to have lots if resources and thus armies at their disposal.
This is the only real human tendency to cebtralize inherently, and it is easily offset by technology as property becomes less and less relevant.
Actually, they sorta did. Both after the American and the French revolution, the people arranged in direct democracies that had to be broken up by the founding fathers and the national convention under Montesqieu respectively. Remnants of this still exists in the US in the New England town assemblies, but people have forgotten the importance of them and the state repression that was necessary to keep them down.
Juan Bennett
Read Apo. For the vast majority of human history, humans were organized along decentralized egalitarian lines. The centralization and enslavement of people to society is a recent phenomena.
Colton Bailey
So the Founding Fathers, who were a tiny minority of the colonies, were able to bully everyone in America(and France) into allowing them to set up a rich person's paradise? The people aren't at least partially to blame for this AT ALL?
Hunter Gomez
They don't. History isn't about what people want. There are no "people" to begin with; only classes.
No material conditions. No party.
No party.
No party.
Liam Stewart
In the case of America, perhaps the people can be blamed for preferring the concessions they were given in the bill of right to another violent revolution, but in France it was very different, with the national convention, being in control of the army, brutally slaughtered their libertarian opposition. However, the important part here is that the default mode of organization that arose after chaos in both examples was directly democratic confederated communes. And that goes against your thesis of an inherent human tendency to naturally centralize.
Lucas Phillips
I already explained this though. There are periods where humans want something but then they just give it up because they seem to prefer the short term stability of centralization rather than the democratic communes which they are willing to attempt but will give away the instant the State threatens them
Easton Reed
This is an accurate quote.
Anyway fam i completly understand but i instead of accepting my social role in society i prever to realize all the non values who restrict me of my own autonomy and revolt for the sake of revolt of the self in pure negation against society,economy and the state just for the pleasure of the act itself where i am liberated of every non value that restricts me. No hope for the future but only pleasure in the current. Like an hopeless lashing out against my executor when i sit at the ditch just to feel my last breath of liberty before the end of my existance. The last joy.
>An 'Democratic' slave society
Leo Jackson
Wrong flag
Robert Lee
Except all those cases where that does not ring true, like in France.
Brayden Martinez
Yeah, but what is that next Master, faggot?
Adam Barnes
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Ryan Watson
Me
Henry Rogers
He was seeing 80 patients a day at one point. He was most definitely a conman.
Easton Lopez
death doesn't devalue anything, it just renders us as not being. Our achievements and the products of our labor still exist, and are still valued. Humans are split into hierarchical roles yes, some people are just not made into leaders while others are, the difference is how this leadership is consolidated and whether or not it fulfills the needs of the many via horizontal integration, or the needs of the few via vertical integration. Societies were created and hierarchical based on the needs it had to serve based on the material conditions that existed and thus a mode of production was found.
Isaiah Lewis
Daily reminder that all psychoanalysis bar-early Freud is reactionary and conservative shit.
Pic related debunked that shit without even going into the scientific/analytic claims psychoanalysis makes.
Connor Phillips
counterrevolutionaries get out
Justin Powell
You are the counter-revolutionary. Lacan was a liberal.
Jacob Edwards
God is a lobster
Kayden Garcia
everyone on this board should read Anti-Oedipus
Blake Moore
Capitalism did not self-correct after the '70s. It simple tucked its head in the sand and tried to hide the problem while the problem continued growing to critical levels.
Julian Sullivan
Keep your weapons near, comrade. It will come.
Elijah Hall
Soon™ Ignore all the oppertunities we had like Arab Spring, egyptian revolution, occupy movement, Greek Financial collapse…
Zachary Harris
Iron Law of Oligarchy fam. Except there is a difference between being excluded from the reigns of political power and choosing not to participate. That's what democracy is better than any other system.
Bentley Clark
Arab Spring gave us Rojava, and Occupy was the first rumblings of class consciousness in America which grew into an actual credible challenge to the status quo in the form of B████ ██████.
I wouldn't count us out yet bucko.
Hunter Rodriguez
Perhaps so, but to be honest the socdems do keep holding us back. Especially on what happend in Greece, fucking reformism will never save us. It even was the dominant system with keynesianism in western europe during the cold war and see where that got us.
Lincoln Lopez
Not even Keynesianism is allowed by the current ruling ideology.
