Austrian school of economics

Is there any austrian school argument against socialism which isn't stupid?

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No.

Any practical critique of socialism always results in, "that's not socialism."

every fucking libretardian ever.

Perhaps that's because your only practical critique of Socialism is strawmanning?

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"Its corporatism, not capitalism!!!"

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Austrians are a joke.

You mean it's immoral for me to voluntarily agree with my competitors to form a trust and jack up the prices of oil to stratospheric levels?

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No. Since their economics focuses on distribution instead of production, they will fundamentally misunderstand any socialist critiques of capitalism.

Do you even 2nd volume of Kapital?

that makes you think…

I didn't say that socialist critiques of capitalism don't talk about distribution. However a large part of their critique does focus on production, and since Austrian economists (like other marginalists) just brush production off to the side, they are missing a huge part of the picture whenever they attempt to discredit Marx or anyone else that uses the LTV.

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does that mean I can market my feces as apples?

Central planning impossible:

youtube.com/watch?v=CNbYdbf3EEc

Entrepreneurs discover profit opportunities/knowledge:

youtube.com/watch?v=oMm-anSv-tU

Kevin Carson isn't an Austrian (he's not an economist either), but he wrote a really interesting essay about synthesizing Austrian and Marxist economics. It basically comes down to free markets and not protectionism or state action will achieve socialism.

If by "Free" you mean "unregulated".. sure… it will bring posadism one step closer!

Ever elusive.

Slightly bigger than what? A dice roll?

He's referring to:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_knowledge_problem

And this is why there aren't any not stupid arguments.

Market is good whenever the exchangeable values is not capital, and the work-time concentrated in both exchangeable values are equal, otherwise, it’s exploitation:
In capitalism, you produce 6 apples and i produce 4 pears, so we exchange them because i wanted 3 apples, and you wanted 3 pears, this, is supposed to be the most efficient scenario isn't it?
Well, no
the most efficient scenario is when we are not forced to give our fruit each other to get the fruit we want (aka we make our own fruit, or there is sufficient fruit in the market to give it to us free), that’s possible whenever the means of production are of public access, or even better, when the work is totally automated, thus in the full automated luxury communism scenario the economic calculation problem doesn’t make any sense, so we will focus in the scenario in which the work isn’t automated.
no it isn't, if you exchange them based in it's utility instead of the work concentrated in it, you are prone to be exploited or exploiting someone else.


once people start getting sick, they will instinctively start working in hospitals. The same with farmers and industry workers, as in nature, people will again start to work according by their needs.

of course, the trade of the means of production have to be banned as their property shall be public.

there isn’t anything more efficient and free than when you got what you’ve worked for.