So much like their entire lives, the attempts of Holla Forumsyps to kill the ISSU have ended in abysmal failure. The rumours of our deaths have been greatly exaggerated, and the project is still alive as well.
It appears a Holla Forums mole hacked the IRC and defaced our manifesto page, but luckily the forum is still intact and we had a backup copy of the manifesto.
Also special thanks to Prickly for sewing everything back together and kicking the Holla Forumsyps out before they could do any real damage.
As of now all discussion of the ISSU will be moved to the forum, with focus on finishing up the manifesto before the end of the week.
URA! The fascist enemies of history cannot win against the spirit of universal human emancipation and solidarity!
Oliver King
Why would they try so hard to destroy a miniscule organization with no influence that was started on a fucking Indonesian quilt sewing board?
Is Holla Forums really that petty? Or is it checkers?
Gavin Lopez
when the person doing it is an underage serbian shoolboy from belgrade who accidentally doxxed himself on the first day of the discussion, it's pretty difficult.
Blake Hall
The answer to any "is Holla Forums really that (negative quality)" is always yes.
Luke Watson
Councilman here, in case anyone is unaware: Meeting today at 12PM EST (4PM GMT/5PM CET) Tox me for IRC info, or check out the forum
Brody Smith
did they made any thread about it ?
No you are here generalizing
Easton Phillips
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Josiah Clark
Fuck off with this larping shit, no one cares about a circlejerk run by the biggest autist on the board (prickly)
if nobody cares why are people trying to shut it down ?
Angel Carter
Mostly because Holla Forums thinks that killing a student group in its infancy is key to stopping the global Jewish conspiracy.
Jace Adams
how are you planning on recruiting normies?
Joseph Gomez
educating*
Evan Taylor
No more IRC discussion? I am disappoint.
David Morales
We are moving to the forum I believe. We *may* also scrap the password for the IRC to let more people in, though I have yet to confirm that.
Dylan Ward
Is this proof that Holla Forums went absolutely shit and will never recover?
Parker Edwards
yes
Julian Ramirez
Nah we recovered just fine bud
Elijah Rivera
So the IRC password has been taken down if anybody wants to join in the conversion, but keep in mind that the Forum will be our main method of organization from now on.
Lincoln Jones
Yo, should we post about the ISSU on our Fedbook page? If so, what should it look like?
- t. Fedbook admin
Camden Nelson
I'd keep it off Facebook for now. No point in advertising ourselves until the manifesto is finalized.
Jayden Powell
Gotchu.
I'll be lurking Holla Forums with a little more attention for any future ISSU posts to see if the festo's done, then ask again what the plan would look like. Keep it up.
James Jackson
Tbh if you're just going to lurk here you might as well head over to the forum and help out with the manifesto.
I'll give it a shot but what I'm best at is making terrible memes and shitposting with high accuracy and frequency.
HMU if you've got a position at the bureau of agitprop, though. Might be able to make some large, printable propaganda posters for the cause.
Alexander King
I can only speak for myself but an open, non-account or password based IRC that is easy to find, but with present and decent mods that can perma kick shit posting IPs, would be best.
I hate making accounts for stuff.
Carter Watson
Jesus, how mature either way if you lads still want the site we made here's the link: www43.zippyshare.com/v/cbArDM8C/file.html it's the JS, html and css file, basically just the Word file made into a website along with a bar with a functioning dropdown menu
good luck making the thing work, although I suppose it'll flop if you continue purging people without an actual reason
pic related, dropdown bar is on the info part
also it's a bit broken for smaller screens but should work fine with 1920x1080(you're not so smart)
John Harris
Password has been removed from the IRC. However most work will be on the forum for security reasons.
Carson Nguyen
Link to the IRC channel?
Jace Hughes
You know that explicitly making it such a selling point will not only further alienate classcucked idpolers from the struggle (which in itself is a terrible strategy) but will very likely attract the very polar opposites of the SJW/anti-SJW axiom (both of which are idpol, btw) to your side. You'll actually end up with something you could unironically call 'brocialist' or 'manarchist' or whatever by putting anti-idpol so central to the cause.
If you must, and I think you should, I suggest you put the anti-idpol position and rhetoric in one of the planks of the manifesto you're gonna make and not on the front page of the website where spooked crypto-libs will shrug away at first sight. This way, you can also elaborate on exactly what the anti-idpol means for and to us, and why it is crucial to specifically our movement.
Jackson Evans
take a look at this screenshot all ye who are wary of comradelefailedpolack
Comrade lememe is a Holla Forums spy. The download contains a virus Do not trust this faggot mods delete this post
Lincoln Evans
no leave it up for all to see how much of a failure Comrade Lememe is
Aiden Ortiz
You are so full of shit. I am the guy who converted the word file into a webpage and I am the one who personally zipped the HTML CSS JS files and the ISSU logo (it's called kek.png in the zip file btw). I can prove it in any way you want, just ask me to prove that it really was me and I will not hesitate to show it. I'm deezebee in the irc chat, or was at least, apparently you need a password now which I don't have.
I find it disgusting how people for some reason jump to these stupid conclusions.
Even through all the shit that my friend Comrade has unjustifiably gone through, I am still willing to give out the page for free, because I don't want those hours of work that I've spent to go to waste. The only thing I demand is to unban Comrade, because he did absolutely nothing wrong and I have no idea who decided to lie about it and call it a virus, and I will be willing to hand my work over. Unless you blatantly lied to everyone calling it a virus and actually downloaded it. In that case, if my work does appear on your website without my permission, it will be nothing but proof of malicious intent on the side of the ISSU.
Contact me through Comrade and we can have a sophisticated discussion about this.
Christopher Gray
Yea really fuck head
Austin Nguyen
You can use anyone's name on the IRC unless it's registered; Comrade did not register his name, therefore anyone could have used it.
I suggest you'd stop insulting me if you want to have a sophisticated discussion you little immature cunt
Also, this happened at 9pm when Comrade was taking a walk and I was in a skype call with him. He was not in the IRC and I can attest to that as an eye-witness.
Joseph Baker
And yes, regarding that, Deezebee is a name which was not registered either, so if anyone under this name appears there, it's not me.
Benjamin Peterson
never trust someone that uses windows
Leo King
But why would someone impersonate Lememe? For what end?
Kevin Fisher
This is why you don't give OP rights like a retard, and set a registered only flag on your channel.
Cameron Ward
Maybe its n1x, his philosphy is based on anti organisation and destruction of everything youknow. Especially anything Leftist/marxist
Austin Baker
I assume to stir up even more drama among the members of the ISSU. As I said, I have all the evidence to prove that I am the authentic creator of the page and you can just ask for anything which wouldn't reveal any of my private information and I'd show it as evidence.
What I am willing to do is to have a private conversation with Pricklycactus and sort all of this stuff out. I have already mentioned my name in the IRC chat, and I am willing to also reveal more.
Lucas Richardson
why do I keep calling it internet relay chat chat, sorry it's a bad habit
Jacob Rivera
It's possible that the polyp in question used LeMeme's name to impersonate him and sabotage us. But since we have no way to confirm or disprove that theory the smart thing to do would be to keep LeMeme out, at least for the time being. If he wants to keep up with what's going on he can keep an eye out for ISSU threads on leftypol or just lurk the forum. If we decide later that he wasn't guilty then we'll let him back in, but that will likely be Prickly's decision since he was actually there.
Aaron Jackson
As I mentioned earlier, I am an eye-witness of the fact that Comrade had no way to be in the irc at that particular time. We'll probably sort it out privately with Prickly as I also mentioned earlier.
Mason Richardson
You could also be another Holla Forumsyp. I'll bring it up with Prickly and the others at the next meeting but it will have to wait till then, and it's ultimately up to them.
Jeremiah Cruz
ATTENTION
Alright, I am not involved in this project but I'm going to recommend something. Prickly Cactus, if you read this (or anyone else): check from the beginning of the channel for comradelememe hostname. If it was the same as when someone by his name banned everyone, then you have the culprit.
Chase Hill
Sure I could, but think about this: After all the destruction and drama that has happened because of this sabotage, what else is there to do? It would take quite a bit of effort to fuck the situation up even more, because it would require regaining the trust of people who already think you're up to no good.
Jordan Collins
I say Prickly mainly because I know that HexChat keeps logs of chats, and this channel has not been up for long so it should be easy to look him up. What matters here is the hostname.
Josiah Jones
Well it's getting quite late here, I'll make sure to bookmark this thread and pop up tomorrow again.
What I would recommend doing is unbanning Comrade at least temporarily so he could get Prickly and me to talk privately about this, and hear both of our stories. As I said, I trust Prickly and see him as someone who does not have any malicious intent, and because of that I am willing to reveal even more sensitive information to him just so it could be used as evidence towards the innocence of Comrade.
Good night everyone.
Parker King
The logo is kinda fucked up.
The gold around the star still uses the old darker shade of gold. The edge of the upper part of the star's tail is not clean and the fading effect on the lower part is kind of strange.
Christopher Price
wow
Gavin Foster
you mean your lies?
Luke Brown
Agreed. If we want to be a place for the left on-campus to organize, we can't exclude idpolers.
Asher Jenkins
Huh? If the one banned was the one using the name while vandalizing, then how come the actual lememe is banned? If those people aren't the same then why do they have the same IP?
Jordan Lopez
The address changed for ComradeLeMeme during the session he booted everyone.
Aaron Gonzalez
So, I've looked at manifesto.js and some idiot has told the browser to change the height the dropdown every millisecond.
James Brown
would that cause harm or just be ungodly annoying?
Colton Adams
Annoying, mainly. Effectively it's an infinite loop, makes whatever is running it busy as a bee.
Henry Cook
just so everybody is sure about desebee or whatever the fuck, him and computerguy are also pollacks that were invited by comradelememe. They all made this "website" together, no doubt full of annoying bs.
Owen Ross
Us filthy post-left anarcho-nihilists can't be trusted. Just look at Bob Black :^)
Sebastian Watson
That looks like good evidence that it wasn't Comrade who booted everyone.
Ian Diaz
I haven't touched HTML, CSS or JS in a long time. The reason why the dropdown is so fucked up is because I made a flaw in design and had to find some sort way to make it work because I was too lazy to fix the core of the dropdown.
As I said, I haven't touched website design for a long time, the only reason why I tried to make this page is because Comrade asked me to and apparently there was no one else who'd do it.
The other guy (I think he was called Computerguy or something like that in the irc) is actually my friend. He was supposed to implement some sort of forum for the ISSU, but then another person came in and did it for him.
From your previous posts it seems to me that you're really salty towards us for no apparent reason. I made this shit for free and I know it's shit quality, but at least it's something. If you want better website design, go get someone who does it for a living and pay him.
Carter Ward
The JS file makes the dropdown expand its height until it reaches a certain height. Now it's expanded and you can click on the links below (which are not links yet because I've been told to not write anything specific in the dropdown, so it's like hi, hello, and something else). Once you hover over an invisible element which is bordering the entire nav bar it calls a function that does the exact opposite where the height gets smaller and smaller until it reaches a certain height. As I said I know it's shitty design but I did it because I fucked something else up.
Carter Powell
Come on guys, get it together. You can find this stuff out without even joining the channel in the first place.
Search logs for the first time 48EB6BED.hsdl.il.comcast.net shows up, they may have joined earlier.
Robert Brooks
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Jackson Murphy
It proves nothing
Gavin Richardson
I didn't say it proved he was innocent, I said it was evidence.
I cannot prove this to you since it is an anecdote, but Comrade is not very skilled with computers. I was the one who gave him advice on how to fix shit, the last time I even used remote desktop to try to fix some bullshit with the new GPU he bought.
Robert Howard
Whichever retard op'd the unregistered nick is just as at fault with the evidence at hand.
Christopher Moore
And I know illiterate people who use Hola. Stop making excuses for him.
Nicholas Cooper
You fucking bet I won't stop "making excuses" for him, because not only was I also directly affected by this because I cannot hand my work over anymore, Comrade also is a good friend of mine.
Tyler Bennett
doesn't matter if you two jerk each other off, he betrayed our movement and needed his traitorous ass to be purged
Isaac James
Sup Holla Forums
Nolan Ward
Yet again you are making retarded assumptions and glorifying the ISSU, typical cult behavior.
Anyone can come in and use Comrade's name in the IRC, it's retarded for you to assume that it had to have been him when he not only had a different hostname than the impersonator, he even asked me to contribute to the ISSU by converting the manifesto into a webpage.
Go ahead and give me a good reason why someone, after fucking with the ISSU, would try to convince them that he didn't actually do anything wrong. That shit doesn't pay off considering the fact that it's a real struggle to convince someone that you're innocent when they're already suspecting you of being a shithead.
Mason Torres
so he can do it again to us and ruin our struggle. this isn't rocket science dude
Samuel Perez
The amount of work to do something like that just doesn't pay off. Why not just make up a completely new persona and say some shit like "I'm a die-hard anarcho-communist who has never found anyone who shared a similar ideology, but now I found the ISSU and I'm happy that I can talk to all of these people with similar opinions!" And this would have been 100 times easier than trying to convince someone that the persona you used to sabotage them was completely innocent.
Yeah it's not, you're just not thinking it through
Jayden Hill
I bet Holla Forums had plenty of keks. Ain't I right Holla Forums?
Camden Nguyen
haha xdd u got me there filthy commie ;d;d;ddd vote trump
Jesus christ this shit is cancer. Ungrateful fucking bastard. This is why I don't like either leftypol or pol, both consist of 80% cucks.
I would have voted B████ though. Shame he sold out to shillary.
Adam Cruz
look man at this point you are arguing with a complete user for all you know they could be some rando pol fag who really is trying to sow dissent
I agree that the screen shots provide enough doubt that this situation should deserve a talk between yall and prickly but arguing over it on here is doing nothing but causing damage to this project so if you really arnt a pol mole please stop
And to Prickly if you see this I do think this situation warrants a discussion between the 2 parties
Kevin Davis
Sure is paranoia here.
Adam Morales
Basically this. I'll bring it up that the next meeting and we can sort it out. Absolute worst case scenario (assuming LeMeme is innocent) is that he doesn't get a say in drafting the manifesto, and doesn't get any admin muh privileges until we are 100% sure (even though he probably wasn't likely to get them anytime soon anyway).
This is really user issue, if LeMeme is really not a polyp and wants to be a part of this project I'm sure he'll be able to wait and handle not being part of the IRC.
Jordan Smith
I'm really disapointed that there are some here falling for the polyps obvious ruses
Daniel Lopez
You're right. The only thing I'm trying to do is at least somewhat convince people that I don't mean any harm. It's also difficult to stay calm when that retard with the anarcho-communist flag keeps being a cuck and constantly repeats the same shit he said in every single post and isn't even willing to talk. When is the meeting btw? The last one was on Saturday right? That's when Comrade brought up my work and apparently people said it was OK.
Alright man. Thanks for willing to have a meaningful discussion about this.
Ryan Smith
If anyone wants to come check out the IRC chat and ask some questions or give suggestions please come on in
We do not have a next set meeting for tomorrow. To keep the project from falling to the wayside, lets get a time where the most people can meet either tomorrow or Wednesday so we can finish this by the end of the week and begin expanding and contacting orgs this weekend.
Now that you have your own forum can you please fuck off from here?
Nolan Phillips
What's your beef, smug anime poster?
Camden Wilson
every on topic project thread on the board takes up valuable pol shitposting space
Matthew Cruz
Why do I keep coming here
Nolan Wilson
MEETING AT 3:00 PM EST
We will be having another meeting today at 3:00 pm EST / 5:00 pm UST
We are trying to get the manifesto drafted. I believe we have enough ideas that we can start getting it wrote. Also I would suggest making some by laws on how we deal with joining communities and orgs as well as how we deal with individuals who cause problems.
Have you guys done anything yet related to a study? Youknow like a study group.
Logan Myers
No but please if you have any ideas come help us out
Ian Carter
If it were up to me i would transform it to a post-left or anarcho-nihilist study group. But thats kidna against the idea of formal organisation or leftism.
Dominic Rogers
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Luis Wright
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Anthony Jenkins
Whoa lads. N1x is admitting he's an abusive mod.
Lincoln Phillips
Why did Prickly even give him mod powers in the first place? Like come on n1x hates the living shit out of leftypol! Cant we kick him and give someone who is a leftist mod powers.
Jonathan Kelly
THIS! He was the one who gave ComradeLeMeme mod powers anyway….
Joseph Hall
If you want to voice your concerns please come to the meeting and we will take a vote on it.
Oliver Howard
You're actually that other faggot who constantly posts his spectacle diarrhea in every thread accompanied with pictures from shit animes (so much for le spectacle situationism).
You're the most classical example of what an anarkiddie is: Marxists are evil fascists out to get us, burning shit is revolution.
I don't expect you to respond in a serious way since all you can do is cover up the lack of theory with smugposting.
Andrew Murphy
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Benjamin Brooks
There's no white knighting for him, he's an edgy useless faggot too, but if you compare the two anarcho autists, he's the least cancerous since he shitposts a bit less.
His bad english also gives him away.
Jeremiah Smith
M8 no.
Robert Cooper
Please explain. I used to go on IRC a lot several months ago but just picked it back up a few weeks ago. What happened?
Chase Nelson
Can we please not get back into this? It does nothing to further the cause.
Henry Cook
He OP'd ComradeLeMeme
Camden Jones
Oh yeah, I forgot about that.
Austin Reyes
I'M NOT THE ONLY NIHILIST FLAG POSTER
Why is this so hard for people to understand? I never post with lewd pics and I have pretty impeccable English tbh. LewdPoster is the one who isn't a native English speaker and who also uses the nihilist flag.
If I wanted to destroy the ISSU there are far better ways I could have went about it than /op'ing LeMeme, and it's not like I'm not open about my contempt for Holla Forums's general attitudes and half-formed "leftist" ideology.
I only agreed to be an operator on the #ISSU channel because Prickly asked me to. I really don't care that much about it. I'm skeptical at best of the intentions of the ISSU project, and from what Prickly has told me, the people involved have been nothing but incompetent. Which is the exact same experience I had when I was (trying) to organize the Detroit Commune, and why I have the most minimum expectations of this project.
Nevertheless, I wouldn't intentionally sabotage one of the few times when Holla Forums tries to do something other than respond to Holla Forums bait or shitpost about SJWs.
I mean at the end of the day there's not really anything I can do to convince you otherwise if you or anyone else is so set on believing the narrative that I tried to sabotage this, but the people who were in the channel at the time will back up my story. I /op'd LeMeme because I needed someone to moderate the channel during a Holla Forums raid, and he had been a regular since the channel was created. I had no way of knowing that he was a Holla Forums spy. End of story.
If it'd make people feel better, I'll step down as an #ISSU operator. I really don't give a shit.
Henry Harris
You fucked up. Stepping down is the honorable thing to do.
Samuel Williams
I never implied you were the same guy, but thank you for revealing the name of that cancerfaggot.
Luis Clark
N1x please step down.
Ian Williams
The issue wasn't about OP-ing Comrade, but OP-ing an unregistered username.
Hudson Morris
Please step down, n1x
Owen Lopez
w/e tho, I'll tell Prickly to remove me as an operator.
np fam, he hangs out in #anarcho if you wanna whine at him in real time ;^)
Anthony Nelson
N1x I dont think you need to step down
Jason Hill
I'm not interested in dealing with drama over it if most people would prefer I step down. Prickly can find a new operator.
Eli Jones
I just figured you would like to know that not everyone feels so opposed to you
At this meeting the people that are writing each section of the manifesto will show us what they have. We will begin polishing it up and getting it ready to for final considerations and ratification on saturday. We will also start considering what groups we are gona invite first.
Nathan Jackson
Why? Either you get mad or they get mad. Either way, I win ;^D
Joshua Myers
You're probably right. Fug
Liam King
Still got no awnser, whats cha guys studying?
Zachary Martin
Nothing.
TBH I think this whole ISSU shit is kind of silly.
Jaxon Moore
Thats what you get when you focus more on organisation than the actual study. Especially when you have diffrint idealogy's
is this shit still up? why is there literally nothing on your facebook page aside from picture changes? also there are quite a few attractive people who browses Holla Forums
Nathan Ross
you probably saw me on there tbh
Oliver Ward
We're using IRC mainly, but we also have a forum set up for larger organization now. theissu.org/forum/index.php
Nolan Young
So…this is dead right?
Robert Cooper
it was never alive. Holla Forums should definitely do shit, but this is just to compensate for the fact that none of them are actually willing to take direct action and organize locally to accomplish things, like how exactly does chatting every week and posting on another forum help the left anyhow at all?
Joshua Roberts
Actually as far as I know it is still doing okay, but I've been out of contact with the core group for a while.