How big is the non-SJW left?

Didn't need your life story m8

We have fight songs - it's the Internationale

Take pic related and subtract about 400 for the trolls/pol/reddit and you have it.

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Fuck off.

Our FB page has some 37 thousand likes and most of the sjw's have already purged themselves.

YES…like THAT…more stuff like THAT.

youtube.com/watch?v=VBV7BwT1wFs

Can you go for five minutes without having a tantrum, n1x?

youtube.com/watch?v=o2jnX2y30DE

the non-sjw left is big, even bigger than alt-right and sjw-"left"combined. it's only that it's affiliates are from he third world. Chile, for example.

youtube.com/watch?v=jNfHQb03unI

Immortal Technique?

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Because it's mostly idpolers that think in ads and sound bites instead of reasoning.

So? Who cares? Do what works to get people on our side. Start pumping out that prolefeed if you want us to be more than a circle-jerk of basement dwelling intellectuals.

Capitalism is a strange tree.

To cut it down, you must attack its roots AND its branches AND its sub-branches, simultaneously.

ID pol is a necessary part of that.

You don't think the Russian revolutionaries made cultural changes before, during and after the revolution? You think they just ignored culture entirely? Of course not.

Apparently a lot of non-SJW leftists are talentless hacks who just want to sit around fingering themselves rather than producing any agitprop.

Just last night there was a huge Soros leak dump, the autists of this board derailed it into discussing the semantics of what it means to be 'left'. It was near impossible to see discussion of the actual dump for all the autistposting.

Basically they just have their head up their arses.

EGG FUCKING ZACTLY.

And I already told people on this board several times how to destroy the SJW.

1. Lena Dunham child molester

2. Al Sharpton defending black rapists and ignoring the black female rape victims in the Dunbar Projects incident of 2008.

Those two alone should be a serious blow to the SJW. But maybe we should wait to gather more ammo…

Modern Western idpol has become such a mire of systemic bullshit that I can't even imagine how to dig through it. It is expressly designed to be the backbone of the status quo.

Do you really think they haven't heard about this? They have, multiple times, because most of the people who point them out are themselves demagogues who don't believe to be relevant and only want to propagandize. It's a self-correcting system of false duality where everyone is consciously obsessed with some other kind of person so they don't have to think about their own beliefs.

What do you even think normies talk about in regards to politics? They very rarely wax about their own views, at most retweeting or email forwarding things written by others. No, they just bitch endlessly about the ebul libruls/conservatives/whatever, forming echo chambers where everyone has to agree with them. To get them to listen to different ideas is not merely a challenge, it is a literal impossibility without getting them to view things from an entirely different perspective.

This is what the "idpol matters too" people will never understand, it doesn't just happen to be unpleasant to work with, it is supposed to be a barrier for people genuinely concerned for society. It is why I want to stop talking about "SJW" as well and ignore them, to constantly acknowledge their existence as some kind of elephant in the room is Facebook tier.

SJWs have never been forced to acknowledge those two. I still think we need to push harder. You say "they have, multiple times"…I've never seen it.

Most SJWs think the Dunbar Village Travesty is a "tea party conspiracy theory". If you keep shoving it in their faces they can't continue to ignore the truth.

Once or twice, they will ignore it, yes, but eventually they will have to acknowledge it in an attempt to save face.

In my opinion if the left continues to circlejerk over books that nobody in the revolution will fucking read anyway rather than producing propaganda they will have lost until the end of our lives within the next ten years.

I think agitprop should be made the boards #1 priority, with a cyclical/sticky dedicated to it. But I'm starting to suspect the people that derail everything with semantics autism are not just a problem, but the staff and inner circle themselves.

Time and time again I see decent ideas posted here and someone will complain over a qualm, then the entire thread proceeds to accommodate them until it suffers heat death. We're in no position to plan carefully and with precision, a scattergun approach at fighting on all fronts needs to be taken.

A plan of action involving members splintering into various discords/boards/cliques for different plans (mostly for opsec against those that would scupper it), a lack of nepotism and leaderfaggotry and taking the initiative would have an effect on the internet, even with our current numbers we could make plans to allow an ideology trickle down effect.

tl;dr: Action, not theory.

You underestimate the human mind. People are so thoroughly capable of willful ignorance that it was probably an adaptive trait at one point.

YES.

My specialty, as a member of the urban poor, will be as a "lumpenproletariat cultural reformist", and hopefully there will be at least one other person with the same specialty as me.

Someone else can work on trying to get to rural middle class whites. Then a third group of people can work on trying to get to SJWs.

Etc.

Keep in mind, at one point the majority of white people were openly genocidally racist. SJW worked and got LARGE AMOUNTS of white people to speak against their own race. So will our propaganda, work, too, at a certain point.

link?

youtube.com/watch?v=rsk1LbGGM4I

If that song was leftist and not a bunch of WN bullshit, I would have wept while watching that. Yeah low grade for sure compared to Fox News or MSNBC, but its *something*.

The fact that these cultists don't represent the majority of people is my point to begin with. They convince people because they have a rhetorical advantage: they convey their retard opinions using ordinarily right-wing rhetoric, just like the Nazis got people on board with the far right with left-wing rhetoric.

Obviously circlejerking solves nothing (though you shouldn't be surprised by this on a fucking chan), but we need to approach ideas and propaganda in ways that they do not. To speak to them in words they do not usually hear, and try to appeal to the part of them no one else does.

This will inevitably require us to acknowledge the existence of idpol, but you shouldn't be surprised at the resistance of this. So, so many eager and active left groups have been outright infiltrated by social justice weirdos because they have no respect for others' views to begin with. Not in an sinister way, of course; they, like Holla Forums, are merely so obsessed that they win by virtue of attrition.

Lets not let ourselves be a bunch of "edgy white dudes". We should speak, publicly, with murals behind us of Che alongside Harriet Tubman.

Not just for prop. reasons but also because Harriet Tubman was a fucking Goddess and deserves to be remembered as such.

wut? Tubman was a Christian conservative that only wanted porky ideology to apply fairly to everyone. Still morally superior to the chattel slavery, but I digress.

If anything wouldn't you rather like to popularize MLK's real history and point out how liberals first resisted him then neutered his image? He was a fucking based left advocate all around.

Maybe MLK would be better.

And I thought Tubman was a socialist, I forgave her for being Christian because it was the 1800s. Maybe I was wrong.

Point is, we're more than just edgy white dudes. "Leftist" does not necessarily mean "white" and people need to see that.

Which reminds me.

Immortal Technique…BLAST that shit.

Maybe skip the songs where he says nice things about God/religion. The rest of everything he says is based.

Where did I imply otherwise? To only limit our historical icons to white males would be highly idpol, especially because hypocritical rightards love to lie about left wing figure X being racist.

I have created a board for this just now, although the board software is taking time to process it.

>>>/agitprop/

Please feel free to rush there and make the first post the traditional quintessential shitpost, but be sure to remember that I did a thing and made it. I will be posting some of my old content and some exploitables I have found and not posted before when it's working.

That's because we're mature and smart so we've broken from the chains of meme magic and have the gift of serious discussion.

In other words, basement dwelling circle jerk which gets us nowhere.

Fristly, pol has the funding to do it. I don't mean pol as the board of Holla Forums, but as the ideology that surounds it. So, bourgies are making comics and songs and whatever that have a set audience, immature and young enough and with enough money to support it.
Secondarily, pol can easily create a bunch of failed memes and then stich to the 2-3 of them that are good for them. They have the enough numbers and enough idiots with enough time, to have a constant production of BS memes and comics and out of that pile they can find the few pieces of gold that can promote their ideology.

Now, leftypol as an ideology has no funding, people are inherently against us, cause darn commies and so on and we have far fewer people, spread around the world, with too much inteligence to make shameless BS AKA selfdoubt and no core ideology.

Add to that the fact that we are actually against what is supposed to be the status quo, pol vs SJWs in the IDpol ring, and thus we are a splinter that they want out.

But, IMO, not all is lost.
The memes keep being decent. Opinionstube is going fine, fb is doing fine, we have a propaganda catgirl commissar and we Wolff will even say "leftypol" in January.

So, sure. We are small. But the people that actually did something were always a small group.

I think that you are merely a temporarily baffled Conservative if "White Song" stirs your loins, my guy.

The MELODY of it stirred me.

Also, replacing "kike" with "porkies" in my head whenever she said "my kick out the kike song"

Thank you.

Wait, what? Source?

youtube.com/watch?v=rsk1LbGGM4I

OP this is fucking trash lol

even the attack on titan ripoff thing by murdoch is better than this

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You do realize that the vast majority of the alt-right are SJW right? They just lack the self-awareness that is needed to see their own hypocrisy

You forgot your Anarcha-Feminism flag

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Some people on this board got together and sponsored one of his episodes of Economic Updates. You can scroll down to see for yourself.

wow that's really gay kill yourself

Are we just going to pretend the left didn't create the best art, music, and films of the 20th century? It's not like the right is suddenly winning some culture war. The culture war has already been won by consumerism. They'll produce any mindless garbage that sells.

I haven't looked into it much since GG, but isn't Chile really, REALLY badly infected? Like, not as bad as Brazil or Argentina, SJW are at epidemic levels in most big cities?

This raises a question in my mind, one that also weighed heavily on me as GG and the events preceding it happened: Will the present iron grasp of SJWs on art (and among artists) ultimately expunge itself from the art world as a result of its censorious nature's fundamental incompatibility with art compared to the historically libertine favor of the left toward artistic expression, or will it simply kill art, like what Catholicism did in the dark ages?

Please dont cut us short.

Anarkiddies like to look up to Argentina as some bastion of Anarchism or something (What with the co-ops and the piqueteros and shit), but the truth is most of them aren't even socialists.

Fuck, didn't mean to greentext.

Who is this guy?

That's retarded.

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kek

The Guardian have already published a document that accuses people raising the Lena Dunham issue of being "le ebil alt-wightest" boogeymen trying to "pooleece qweer seckualities"

Vide: theguardian.com/books/2014/nov/05/lena-dunham-statement-abuse-claims

Idpol is part of taking down the capitalist system.

However, it's been co-opted to become this self-perpetuating thing that uses authoritarian tactics to get it's goals.

the journey is all part of the destination, is what these people don't understand.

sure buddy

Sure is comr8. We call it cultural marxism. Culture in the west reinforces capitalism (individuality, consumerism, chauvinism scientism and the arrogant belief that our society is superior to others on the planet)

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No it's not. If you think it is, actually put forth an argument for why you think it is, or at the very least explain yourself.

The alt-right are obsessed with identity politics and whine over the most minor things. They're exactly like the SJWs they fight against. They think they're oppressed by the left, so they bitch and moan. That is what an SJW does. They find things to get offended about–which the alt-right is perpetually doing. They fight for social justice so long as it suits their needs

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"people who talk of non class socialism or non class politics belong in zoos"

-vladimir lenin

The fact that they are forced to acknowledge it proves that its working.

The fact that they're able to brush it off as the actions of a "seven year old" when some of these acts were committed by Lena at age 17 (From what I've heard), proves that we need to keep pushing. The details, such as Lena's advanced age, haven't been pushed hard enough for them to be forced to acknowledge those details.

Exactly!

Holla Forums, in all its variations, is a cancerous cesspool but holy shit do they crank out memes, disinfo and propoganda like fucking nobody business.

The way to convince the normies isn't through logical debate or rational arguments. They are never going to read any left wing literature. We need to lure them in with memes and propaganda.

Literally proto social justice tier "fuck you I won't do what you tell me" wannabe anarcho kiddie garbage.

It may well be, but at least it gets people interested.

Holla Forums creates no more than one meme a year.

I listened to them when I was an angsty teen. I am a Holla Forumsack today so no it does not get people interested. Laibach influenced me a whole lot more with their in your face critique of totalitarianism.

With critical thinking skills like yours, it is no wonder you browse are a Holla Forumstard.

n1 m8, that twat wont no wot hit im

I never would have expected that this site would get so successful. Good job admins and meme workers.

The problem is that they believe their own disinformation.

There are normalfags. Who usually say some SJW shit in current year because of the media push.