Are Black people the last hope for the American revolution?
They have the highest unemployment rate and lowest median income out of all groups. However, the protestors appear to be uneducated about (or simply ignore) the concept of class struggle and economic stratification, and focus on race.
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Stop being racist.
Why aren't you guys going out there to educate them? Also, what is the Capitalist class, who are they to struggle against?
poor blacks? lol hell no
middle class and up blacks? maybe, yes.
Ayy, i is half black can i pls lead revolucion?
They would be if they hadn't drank the liberal idpol cool-aid so completely. I actually think that working class whites are more likely to become a revolutionary class. They haven't been fed the narrative of racism their whole life so when things start to go south for them class consciousness springs up naturally instead of blaming racism.
yeah white americans are way more class-conscious than blacks!
Only if the revolution involves getting free weave
We already are, that's why we are voting Trump. Protectionism is the only way to beat globalism.
Trump voters are unconscious to the point of believing a fucking billionaire gives a fuck about them.
Trump is massively overstated as the anti-establishment, non-voting worker candidate. Apparently he's not doing as great as they make out.
Also I love how that woman looks like an Express reader whose child is being touched by the ghost of Princess Diana. Truly, euphoric.
who voted for S█████ in the primary?
So what's your plan for when jobs within the cognitive reach of working class whites are taken by robots instead of brown people? It's not as if everyone is going to become a software developer.
Definition of false consciousness
They had massive potential half a decade ago but now they're regular American classcucks.
Build a firewall.
Whites in the US get the same shit, just inversely. They're told that their hard work doesn't matter because all of their labor and opportunity will go to the lazy shitskins anyway. Even jobless welfare whites see blacks like this, and I can guarantee you that 99% of people who whine about muh disparate crime statistics haven't even been to the shitty part of a city.
America has zero revolutionary potential and will be the biggest enemy of any socialist international movement. I say this as someone who has lived in the US my whole life. Sucks, but it's the truth.
so you have no actual response and just spout sound bytes
Trump is popular with a subsection of working class whites, S█████ was also most popular among the same demographic. The question is whether or not they are smart enough to see porky as the cause of their misery rather than immigrants.
Blacks on the other hand wholeheartedly supported Shillary through and through, at least some whites sided with Sandman.
I wasn't who you were responding to.
Pic related it's your robot replacement in the future.
yea, except history has proven that wrong, instead they'll blame either blacks or mexicans
Yes, they are also the solution to the Holla Forumscuck problem.
Which is why all the blacks turned out for Shillary while whites voted for B*rnie right?
honestly, leftypol's ignorance of history is worst than Holla Forums's
Fuck, this is amazing. I can't believe I haven't seen this before, will be using this for some tears.
An attempt was made!
🍀🍀🍀Harry Truman🍀🍀🍀
What's the second picture? Can't make it out due to genius text positioning.
1. Hillary couldnt get the nomination with the black vote alone
2. Hildog only led with old blacks
3. B████ actually led with blacks under 30
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4. not an argument
They have drunk he idpol cool-aid, back during the civil rights movement this wasn't the case, but since then the liberal progressives have detached anti-racist struggle from class struggle. Blacks today think that things will improve if they just eliminate racism, but don't see that capitalism is the root cause of their misery.
Whites on the other hand (assuming they are smart enough to not blame immigrants) don't have the smokescreen of racism to hide the fact that capitalism is the source of their poverty.
the second picture is a group of young white people pouring drinks on black people protesting peacefully, it reads
'White people be like
If they protested peacfully we would treat them with respect'
Some faggots bothering a black and white couple apparently. Holla Forumstards in the making.
True, but typically the whiter the state the better B████ did, that's why she swept the South.
Trump is popular with all white males, not just working class ones. Anxiety about migrants and Muslims is overwhelmingly more decisive for Trump voters, even the non white ones.
Sanders was the only working class option and he sold everyone out. The two remaining candidates are 100% idpol appeal.
Ah yes, S█████ the revolutionary. Most blacks just don't vote. The blacks voting in the Dem primary represent the special few (classcucked compensated proles) who believe in the face of all evidence that something good will happen if they vote Democrat. Most black Americans have been on the receiving end of so much shit that they have abandoned the bourgeois election system entirely, which in some ways is better than a timid B████crat. As well, millions of black Americans are completely banned from voting, due to prison sentences. Clearly the shitty, rigged Dem primary represents the true political potential of black Americans.
Not to mention the fact that the blacks that do vote are usually well off and old.
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The problem with American politics is that everything is saturated in idpol. The difference is that a left leaning white person is more likely to see porky for the problem rather than whitey compared to a left leaning black person, and the racial split between B████ and Hillary is proof of this.
it's clear you haven't read a single book about the civil rights movement(because doing that would be le idpol xDDDDDDDDD)
Some people in the civil rights focused on both race and class. Now please take your liberal 'if the civil rights people were here right now they would agree with ME' historical revisionism. And fuck off, if you were alive back then you would have said that they drank the idpol kool-aid because they paid attention to race.
But things will improve for groups that if you eliminate racism, do you deny this? But you're right many dont see capitalism as the root cause.
Maybe it's because *gasp* whites haven been targeted for their race throughout the history of this country!?
And please, whites are constantly bitching about the blacks and mexicans """"stealing"""" things from them because of the gubment. It's impossible to take you seriously when you cant even be honest.
and?
Pepe you retard, the civil rights movement was coopted by liberals, or are you just doing some reddit tier missing the point for the sake of winning internet points?
Why is it any better for brown people to take the jobs than for robots to take them?
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I wouldn't say that, in fact I admire them precisely because they treated class struggle and anti-racism as the same struggle.
No I don't deny this. But eliminating racism alone wouldn't have nearly as much of an effect as replacing capitalism would.
I'm not denying this, what I'm saying is that if they are smart enough not to be Trumpenproles then they are more likely to see capitalism for what it is. Blacks on the other hand will see racism and it will obscure their view that capitalism is the real issue.
It clearly shows that left wing blacks are in general more spooked than left wing whites.
It isn't, that's the point. I generally believe in immigration restrictions from the third world for economic reasons, but electing Trump to enact protectionism isn't some panacea that will solve everything. It will just kick the can down the road 10 years or so as capitalists aggressively pursue automation or take political action to bring wages down. I can't see how an authoritarian right-wing government pursuing economic policies that merely benefit a different set of porkies will bring anything but disaster.
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American blacks are reactionary as fuck.
That's also also one of the reasons why B████ did so poorly with them.
Of course, this is true. And I disagree with a lot of his politics like his support for Israel and his choice of a religious VP.
Because the alternative is Clinton.
yes, you would. Like most people you would love to think that if you were alive then you would have been on the 'right' side of history. You would have said something along the lines of 'man, i would love to ally with them but they wont let go of their idpol and spooks xDDDDDDD '
Look at the way you and the rest of leftypol react to people that talk about race/gender and class
Sure, but i dont think that's point, i dont think that's what they want. What they want is to be treated like a normal person instead of constantly getting shit for their race.
Sure, if we ignore the large amount of racist whites and pro establishment whites then sure, whites are more likely to see capitalism for what it is, and the biggest reason for this is because the people at the top look like them
sure
Spooks xD
please stop the stupid fucking meme words
and sure, if we're going to use votes as evidence then sure
You seem to be misunderstanding my position. My opposition to idpol isn't because I don't support anti-racist action or movements, but because they have elevated anti-racism to their primary cause and let class struggle take a back seat, if it exists at all. They should be making efforts to combat racism, but those efforts should also include opposition to capitalism. And I fully support BLM
They should try behaving like normal people. You know, don't steal, don't assault people, don't rape, work an honest job, speak English and not ebonics, etc.
ah okay, my mistake.
>>>Holla Forums
Blacks AND hispanics will be the future revolutionaries.
Acting like a savage gets you treated like one.
Based and saved
It's not exactly like I can talk sense into someone who unironically browses Holla Forums
Yeah, it's mostly proles so they should be supported.
Sounds like you have no argument.
Sounds like you get your perception of blm from Steven Crowder.
Literally who? Still not seeing an argument here.
Why don't blacks just behave like normal people?
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FTFY.
Also sounds like someone is lucky enough to have never had to riot over anything in their entire life.
Why did the racist board owner bump-lock this thread? Is the black community with its long, rich cultural and political history in America deemed less important to discuss than some drawn catgirls or strategy computer game?
Yes, so why don't they act white?
Black youth supported S█████ over killary tho
They're literally the most oppressed group in america.
So much better than having some special snowflake otherkin/other lgbtq++++ bullshit
Haha dat pic FOOKING SAVED!
Why doesn't Holla Forums read or think critically?
Tippity top kek
Nah, whites in the US blame immigrants and blacks when things go badly. When things get even worse, they blame jews. The white working class is the least class conscious in all of America.
THIS
How can you tell if something has been bump locked.
Can't believe this thread got bump locked because it hurt the board owners fee fees. Fuck leftypol I'm fucking outta here.
Muh colonialism
Muh mighty whitey
Muh white man's burden
Fuck I hate neoliberalism.
Both sides in this disagreement have a point. Getting shit on and drinking the idpol koolaid are not mutually exclusive. In fact the opposite is true. When a group of people perceive they're being persecuted (whether or not it's true) is when they're susceptible to idpol brainwashing.
Memes like this are why I come to leftypol