(From a thread on another board, not Holla Forums either)
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You don't have to have a political affiliation to know this is bogus as fuck.
The US has to have an Israeli sabotage problem.
Clearly Israelis are using the US' large jewish population as a cover for putting their own nationals in the government.
If you are a Jewish American and hate what Israel is doing to your country, you need to be more vocal. Otherwise, you might find yourselves blamed too.
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And if the Israelis are merely using the US jew population are a mere cover, that would explain the actions Soros recently started to take.
Oh and tie this in with the recent discovery of missing fed funds and it paints a horrible picture of Obama and the dems (including clinton)
All in favour of putting in the sticky that Satannazi shouldn't post here until she post full nudes say Aye.
Why? The U.S. has always given money to Israel. I guarantee you if there was no oil in the Middle East Israel wouldn't be getting shit.
Maybe if non-Israeli Jews disappeared overnight
But it's the fact this is occurring strangely at a time where a similar amount of money went missing from the fed that is suspicious. Furthermore, the clearly disproportionate amount of money is prima facie suspicious. Why do they need that much money? Why can't they obtain their own money the normal way? Why is this(one of the largest donations yet) happening just before obama leaves?
It's strange considering the timing and the fact that this does not benefit the US citizens at all. If we need a strategic position in that area, why are we giving cash in bulk rather than providing weoponary? Why the need for cash?
They need equipment and tools, not money.
And this would make sure that Israel uses it for defense purposes.
Instead, they say "do what you want". That's awfully dangerous as that money could be used for things against Americas economic competitiveness or even against their defense(rather than strengthening their defense)
Well actually I heard a strange rumor the other day… (hold up, gotta dig)
And the satan logo is taking the piss.
www.davidstrahan.com/blog/?p=68
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Found this.
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Also useful, but a bit outdated.
I think the bigger issue nowadays is moving away from oil and how this will impact the oil industry complex.
That would also explain why Israel is pushing hard now, they no they have little other argument for the cash flow.
AND they know that their economy is not ready to be independent.. so they leech.
From the American taxpayer.
From what I've looked into regarding Israel's United States relationship, it seems like they have largely served as the military base in middle East. I imagine Israel wants something out of this to which is why they ask for hard cash.
Even if oil reserves are depleted(and I don't doubt they are) I still stand by the statement that if the reserves weren't there in quantities they're in now(like the 41% depleted Gulf Fields) the United States by and large would move away. I think it's a lot easier to explain than "The American Government has been hijacked by Zionist in an elaborate, decades long ruse"
Bollocks, they could sponsor any country, yet choose Israel.
And the disproportionate control of the government infers greatly that zionist tendencies are the prerogative.
There can only be one explanation for that. And the emails seem to prove the Israel bias. Clinton called for rebellion in Syria because of "the interests of Israel"
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Where's the defence purpose there?
Oh for the oil?
But look at the blowback that it's causing. Surely that justification would not suffice.
Surely the only explanation has to be foreign sabotage.
It started with the Soviets supporting neighbouring Arab socialist regimes resulting in America supporting Israel as a counterbalance (or vice versa, I forget which one "started" it). Then the neo-cons came of age politically as the Soviet union collapsed, and the US pivoted towards supporting Israel for mostly ideological reasons (muh island of democracy and freedumz in a sea of crazy islamafascists), not cynical realpolitik ones
I don't think the Saudi's would let the U.S. use their country as a military base.
The link you provided is broken. When I searched that phrase on Wikileaks I couldn't find Clinton saying that either. Can you repost it?
fuck didn't finish the first part. I already stated that the reason for Israel is because it's in the ME. The United States has done plenty to preserve it's hegemony in Latin countries, including 638 attempts to assassinate Castro and Pinochet.
take off the < and >
Why don't they do the same to Israel then?
Bit of a double standard that they ruin other countries, but let Israel be.
Actually here:
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The link still doesn't work for me but everything else on Wikileaks does.
Because Israel is still largely subservient to the United States. It's a geo-political strategy to support them. It's a lot easier to justify the decision to engage in interventionism in the Middle East when they can have a country with "the "ideological reasons" like stated, that maintain the facade that this is more of a "brothers in arms cause" rather than a quest for power.
If they were outright supporting the Saudi's to the extent they Israel their rhetoric of "spreading democracy" would completely collapse in on itself. The military aid we already give to Saudi America makes most Americucks, Dem or Republican raise their eyebrows.
Then you put into account the media that pushes that agenda
Except there's clearly a tribal element in the number of major Jewish figures in the American government pushing pro-Israel policies, using a reversal of that same logic ("If it's good for Israel, surely it's good for the United States. QED")
I'm sorry, do you think that the media is more important an industry than agriculture, energy, defence, etc?
apparently Israelis do.
Infact all governments sustain themselves on propaganda and memes(or rather the momentum for them).
Look at north korea
You're saying the media agenda presupposes the government agenda, when I'm saying it's the opposite.
High-ranking Jewish officials and high-ranking non-Jewish officials that are inordinately sympathetic towards Israel. It goes both ways - politicians, bureaucrats, think tankers etc that support Israel for ideological reasons will justify their support on practical/realpolitik grounds (i.e. the aforementioned "If its good for Israel, it must be good for the United States")
I'm saying the two are not mutually exclusive.
Which is ironically what fascism promotes.
To clarify I mean
Whereas it's more like
"What's good for Israel is good the United States" sounds like an ideological reason which covers up political reasons. I'm not saying that there aren't Zionist in the U.S. government who support Israel for ideological reason and ideological reasons, it's highly unlikely that the higher powers of the United States are acting out it's foreign policy in the ME based on ideological reasons alone and not economic.
*ideological reasons alone
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How can you say that? Look at what we've discovered this past year?
We have NOTHING but foreign influence in the political system nowadays.
Fuck sake are you this retarded?
I didn't say it wasn't both, but is making out like it's ideological reasons only.
And furthermore to address him:
Please show me the critical evidence that proves the Zionist conspiracy
Yes, critical industries like Oil(energy) and health have much less influence in the government of the country they are denizens of than some tiny country halfway across the world that historically functioned as our military base against the Soviet Union. Nothing but foreign influence at all.
the circumstantial evidence holds mate.
Because you are unlikely to find anything saying "control the government, leak the fed" unless you hack people.
And I suspect that might soon happen.
But even so, the circumstantial evidence is so telling that you'd have to act on it at this stage.
Hell, the fact they don't raid mossad or anything like that seals the deal for me.
Hell, the fact they don't raid mossad or anything like that seals the deal for me
Okay. It's nice to know that the fact the United States government isn't reading the secret services of sovereign allied nations is convincing enough evidence that Jews control the government but I'm gonna require a little bit more than "a lack of something means it's true".
*isn't raiding
That's retarded. Normal people shouldn't have to do that.
Are you a jew?
Because I always assumed they would use the money on the population first.
Especially when that population is angry.
Especially when your bond system leaks money to banks so they can lend usurious risky loans.
Who owns the banks?
Oh righto it's them. That's why the money never goes to the people.
That's why there's ALWAYS a lobby for foreign motives or financial system motives.
I mean if that isn't enough to raise doubt then you are gullible.
Especially considering that all that info is purposely kept secure.
Especially considering the conflicts of interest between the financial system and the people, or Israel and American citizens.
How do you control that info?
Oh you put pawns in the government so their secret service is compromised.
You seem to think people play nicely in the real world.
They don't. In the real world it's competition baby!
They are not normal. They are jewish.
They have a connection.
And they need to cut it NOW or else.
How'd you know? Genetically yes, but my parents are atheist.
Nice non-sequenitor buddy
A state keeping Classified information secure? Really makes you think……
Interesting considering there isn't even a Jew in the top 10 Richest people in the world. News flash, the Koch brothers(both non-Jews) pour more money into elections than any Jew in America, and are heavily invested in the energy industry. They also fund lolbert economic schools to put out their propaganda.
Also I wasn't gonna reveal the fact that I'm Jewish because I know you'd go full autist like you did in , but try to contain that autism and look at my argument based on what's verifiable and now what my ancestry is.
Looking at that pic I'm starting to see a pattern…….
The “circumstantial evidence = Zionist conspiracy” bullshit is a Holla Forums-tier cop-out to anthropomorphize a systemic and material issue and make it about “muh evil Jews.”
The reality is that historical and contemporary geopolitical and economic interests (anti-Russian, oil, Middle East hegemony etc.) happen to align in such a way as to make the U.S. obsessed with defending, and preserving its alliance with, its petty garrison state in the Middle East.
Certainly the Israeli intelligence, business and political communities exert influence over quite a bit of the U.S. (as well as other States). But you’re missing the point if you think you can reduce it all to some dark cabal of Jews pulling strings. You might as well start talking about some evil cabal of Americans running the world this is truer.
You can say that the U.S. is “ideologically” disposed to Israel’s interests but you have then to answer why that ideology has such pull. And the answer is geopolitics and economics.
He is very obviously a Holla Forumsyp.
Then you have no problems with what I said.
If you are not israeli or jewish, there's no problem.
It's just the silly oath itself that is the issue.
You should look it up then. Banks ARE controlled by jews. Furthermore, they look less white than the average american Jew.
Which suggests they may be israeli.
Real?
Because you cannot deny what I suggested.
It's the god damn truth. We have an Israeli problem and judaism is an issue not as a religion, but an oath
And american jews need to cut it now.
Actually our legal system works on what I said normally.
But targeting ethnicity is illegal, especially against semites. Furthermore, international law is banning antisemitism.
Strange that.
Look my grandmother married a rabbi (2nd husband, not related to me) and he converted.
He realised what his religion was being used as. An oath.
And the fact an user is unaware of this (and is athiest) proves that the athiest semites are unaware of the Israeli issue.
They just see it as a nice connection, when in reality it's to ensure your obedience.
Which suggests they may be israeli.
I don't look white at all. I actually look Israeli as fuck because I'm 3/4 Eastern European and 1/4 Persian. Do I get to be in your pogroms to?
Look at what I said about the Koch's and then get back to me. These two faggots pour way more into the American electoral system than any banking Kike. You're looking at complex geo-political issues and drawing conclusions based on coincidince. The pic I posted is making a joke of that same reasoning seeing Irish control of the federal reserve and going "must be a conspiracy", or like me going the fact that the Walton's are both from one family are both rich billionaires means that they're in on it to.
I'd like to find me one international law in a Western nation where you're aloud to target any ethnicity based on that ethnicity.
I'm agnostic but that doesn't mean I haven't dealt with many Israeli supporters in my life. My close friends dad used to serve in the IDF and lived there for years and I've been to Israel for birthright.
I know exactly how dogmatic Israel supporters can be and for all intensive purposes I'm opposed to Israel as a nation. But like said it doesn't boil down to "evil cabal of Israeli's controls the world". There are zionist in the U.S. government and anyone who says otherwise is a fool. What I contend is that these zionist hold such a majority in the United States that they're able to influence foreign policy to the point where it's tailored exactly as they want it, instead of being able to push ideological goals due to greater geo-political struggles. If you have anything to show me beyond circumstantial evidence and conspiracy theories then I'm open to look at it. But this "us vs the evil corrupters" is the exact rhetoric people use to justify their dispositions towards the current failing system.
I'm just skeptical of foreign influence.
And I have the rabbi connection to the family, his conversion to christianity (and the perplexed response from his family) was an eye opener. They saw the breaking of an incredibly strong bond.
and adding on that. my family is friends with an ex-rabbi who's done a lot of diplomatic work in Israel working with Pro-paleistinian groups and is disgusted with how Israel segregates the Palestinians as well as how they teach brown Jews like the Mizrahi and Ethiopian ethnicities. Being Jewish does not mean you support Israeli policy and to extrapolate that will only lead to needless violence against American Jews who are casual practicers.
I'm not familiar with Jewish doctrine at all and have only read the New Testament once so I'm not able to compare the two. Being Jewish certainly can lend a disposition to supporting Israel blindly but it does not imply it in all situations.
If you're not Jewish and you have no way keeping oaths, I don't see why you should.
Yes, that was before the internet became a huge issue.
Easy, currently in progress apparently.
Once it establishes precedent there, it WILL spread.
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I'm sure there are Israelis that are ok and ignorant of what their government does.
The same way most Americans ignore their own government.
Then he should be pissed off at the stupidity of the government.. oh wait they kill people in gaza constantly, they would endorse it.
They don't need to hold a majority. Infact if they just influence the policy that's all that matters.
said the babylonians. Before they were wiped off the earth.
The religion doesn't matter. The OATH matters.
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God Bless Israel and the Jewish people! They should be immune to leftist ideology because of all they had to suffer.
Good on jolly Israel.
When white people subvert the system it's racism.
But when the chosen ones do it you're an anti semite for condemning them.
I'm done with double standards.
If jews don't want to abolish double standards, then why should we have ANY standards. And they don't want to see white people ignoring standards, because it's the last thing they'll see. The fucking cunts.
In fact, I don't care if soros is exploiting the left agenda, he's proven prima facie there is a clear double standard.
If we do globalisation this way, we ALL do it.
And that includes Israel.
You think we're being anti-semetic, when in reality we're just trying to find pragmatic solutions.
My earlier solution was extreme, but the circumstantial position white people are in is driving this solution.
I want both of us to prosper.
But I don't want to leech off the meek. All lives matter.
And thank you for your endorsement satan