Email clients

There's not much you can do other than go through the tutorial and read the manual (C-h r). That's quite a few decent online guides that help you, this one: david.rothlis.net/emacs/tutorial.html looks pretty concise.

If you're used to vim bindings, there's viper-mode for changing the basic keybindings to vi-style. Or you could use cua-mode so you'll get standard C-z, C-c, C-v, etc, and you could just use the arrow keys to move around.

Although the learning curve is still pretty harsh, it's gotten easier for newbies, as they've gotten better at having sane defaults. Some of the terminology (frame rather than window, window rather than frame, yank instead of paste, kill instead of cut) is a big hurdle to some people, though. Also, user do essentially have to learn the basics of Elisp to do more than very basic configuration.

Can you have manu "accounts" easy way though?
Gnus seems reasonable.

sylpheed

I'm sorry user.
mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/tb-planning/2017-March/005298.html

I was going to suggest Fossamail (a thunderbird fork) by that furry that develops Pale Moon, but it's been discontinued
fossamail.org/

I can see this ending horribly.

Didn't thunderbird end already?

Yes, read the torah.

Mutt and thunderbird

Thunderbird

cock.li. Needs JS but is _still_ less cancerous than the shit you have to put up with to use any other email service. Really if i need a piece of shit web browser to configure my email service i don't want to install some piece of shit email client as well.

I find it annoying when Emacs packages break my window setup and then revert to a single window upon closing. I could tolerate that if Gnus didn't support async. Mu4e not only has more functionality but is simpler to interface with and setup.

Do you perhaps know what client is? Cock.li uses roundsomething for it's web client.

I use mu4e + mbsync/isync too.

mutt and k9-mail

alpine

K-9 mail and Thunderbird. I hate Thunderbird, so I'm gonna try emacs at some point.

I actually can recommend Sylpheed.
So far it's awesome when it comes to doing anything!

Is there a way to easily ditch the internal editor for EDITOR? Also, a way to get passwords via commands (for password managers).
These are the only thing I lacked last time I tried.

as for the external editor - yes, I can't tell if you can change it or not, but you can use external editor if you wish.
Passwords are stored plaintext in the configuration file.

update, you can also choose external editor in gui settings

CLAWS NIGGA
FUCK HTML EMAIL

Geary. Simple and integrates well into Gnome.

Why bother?

You fucking retard the same applies to the browser. I bet you use gmail on chrome. Webmail allows to track far more which is why they push it, like what buttons you click when, which emails you read, when and for how long, correlate that with what you do on other sites running obfuscated google scripts with tracking built in etc. Also my client is Free Software, so a backdoor is unlikely and even if there were one I or somebody else could create a version without it.

Go back to /g/.

ergoemacs.org/emacs/emacs.html

Pozzilla thundercock and mail.com

There's a large number of open-source mail clients, so that's not much of an issue. If you're really paranoid, encrypt your message in your shell before loading it into the client.

The best client in existence. Ok, it's payware, it's closed source, but fuck it, it's worth it.

It's amazing to think that there are posters on here that don't remember the personality that is Xah Lee.

what the fuck

first, i like to say i'm thankful to FSF. No, i was a fanatic of rms, and has been ban'd in mailing lists (in early 2000s) for pro fsf/gnu/rms harsh opinions. People have called me a rms fanboy.

but, i don't like criticism of fsf/gnu/rms gets voted down for disagreement of opinion than lack of points.

as to appreciation, we, need to thank our mom. She gave birth to us. But we need to thank our dad too, else, we wouldn't exist. Then, we need to thank society, because mom and dad can't survive by themselves. And, we need to thank our firemen, for, he protects us, and soldiers. Thanks to our teachers and philosophers too, sans of which, i haven't clawed your eyeballs out yet.

there are 2 kinds of thanks. One is which they do by themselfs. The previous paragraph, are such. Your mom and dad no really need thanks from you because they'd birthed someone else anyway.

the other thanks, is person do because of you and for you sans necessity. If i give you a buck, or been kind to you, you thank me, a dear thank, because i don't have to. In this regard, the average parents, firemen, soldier, teacher, family, your church, school, company, government, don't qualify. But particular good persons, qualify. I have many people in emacs community am thankful to in this regard, too.

PS am not dissing your points. I think it's valid and you gave a very good support for your argument, and i agree FSF has gotten much better for accepting code contribution.

The irony of this is that Xah uses MS Windows almost exclusively.

...

Mac, actually.

He makes allusions to Windows constantly. Every screenshot on his site is Win7.

switch to vim

Really? I always thought it was for Wine.

I used The Bat! pre 2000.

Not quite right.
Point taken.
I heard suggestions akin to "Thunderbird is botnet, avoid it" before, what do I make out of this?
Why the agression?
No comment.

Does it still exist? From what I recall it was fairly popular even into the 2000s.

Mail.app

Also allows the sender to track you too. Assuming they are normalfags

Please elaborate.

html in emails can contain things to phone home, potentially sending an user agent

Ok, how to mitigate this? Use ASCII-only mode, no HTML? What else?

I'm pretty sure you only need to block loading images and iframes, but I could be missing something.

What about FREE email providers?

Apple Mail
it's full of shit but I have more important things to do with the limited amount of life
and email is shit anyway

im pretty sure you can make it so nothing will load in emails but text, links and attachments

>>>gmx.com/

Microcucks Netmail all the way

I would use thunderbird before, but Evolution proven itself to be a very decent software

Probably not good for a Holla Forumsack though, being based in Germany.

Mutt. It sucks like every email client sucks, but at least it satisfies my autism.

>"A rewrite in JavaScript makes sense now."

Just fucking kill me.

acme's upas/fs mail

Mutt, offlineimap, spamassassin, getmail, procmail.
I think that's all the components I use.

tutanota.

Firefox

wait what?