Is clover OS any good?

I tried it recently on a lark. It was fast, I'll give it that: definitely better performing than what I normally use. The app suite was decent. But I exploded it trying to add TUN/TAP support to the kernel, so I could run openvpn. And then I tried to find documentation, which does not really exist. I'm sure it was user error and to an extent, lack of knowledge.. but fuck that. Why wouldn't it support VPNs by default? Maybe I just missed a trick, but I shouldn't have to know a trick to be able to run openvpn.

I ended up back where I started: OpenBSD. It is very hard to beat once you are onto it. I also kinda like Open Indiana, it's pretty classy.

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It's cool and pretty fast

>>>/cloveros/

I..actually kinda like this, it's a sane gentoo install that does the minumum with some scripts and anything else I can just add myself. Any problems with emerge can be resolved by editing my make.conf to pull packages from Source Portage, and I can always switch back to Clover's mirror by simply adding '-G'.

My nigga, don't knock it until you try it.

Do you think it is a fair statement to say that the GPL is the SJW of software licensing?

reminder that this is a /g/ project and Holla Forums are eternal cucks who never code or work on any projects anyone ever gave a shit about
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It's gentoo but with the main point of gentoo -customization- already done. Not worth downloading.

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Will a girl show me her "gentoo" if I install Gento?

what are you smoking?

They have a rolling release which is at least tested. The bloat is real, but if you can get past that then it's a good system.

what's the modern use-case of that today? I always thought Solaris development pretty much died when OpenSolaris went away.

Unironically the best. Before it, gentoo was the best by far. Now gentoo + a shitload of precompiled packages? You can't really do any better. Rock solid. Customizable completely. More stable than your horse's house. Nothing compares. Only complaint is that I've never gotten ANY gentoo-based liveusb to even boot, and cloveros is no exception. Live system is just peachy though.

Code is not a word, cuck.

Debian Sid is rolling release you turbo LARP.

debian is not stable if you ever update anything to sid at any time, because half the system needs to be pulled into sid, and at this point everything explodes.
Meanwhile stable packages are chuckfull of bugs, but the bugs are never addressed which lets sysadmins add their custom patches and never bother changing them. That's what they really mean by "stable".

For me, mostly appreciation of the past and learning to use solaris. I'll never use it in production. That said, I have read that the solaris "zones" are very good. I also read that kernel performance is very good, comparatively, and can confirm anecdotally that my cpu utilization is lower on OI vs. obsd doing the same tasks (playing a movie, for example.)

It's not a very good comparison point since obsd is well known to be extremely slow and use shittons of cpu resources while no other OS has that problem. They claim it's security related but even with the same hardening techniques used in other OSs, they don't see such problems.

Does it support PPC32?

It's gentoo so you can compile anything that's not already precompiled through the package manager. However cloveros doesn't provide any non-x86 packages precompiled.

wtfpl is a cuck license

It has fucking linuxBBQ's problem of being made and used ONLY by it's maintainers, because they don't know how to document shit.

Have you tried turning your brain on?

youtube.com/watch?v=PXFwN3q1VaY

Unironically Arch, if it's gonna break anyway you might as well, and it never even broke for me. But more importantly do not use Debian sid, I repeat, do not use sid, sid is NOT for users, there is absolutely no attempt to make sid stable, and it fucking isn't, don't bother.

opensuse is for pros

OpenSuSE used to be pretty good, but nowadays all the 3rd party repos are gone, there are fuckall packages in the main repos, it's unstable as shit, their patches introduce extra bugs while fixing nothing (used to be the exact opposite, the kde3 patch gave kde3 a searchable menu like modern accelerators such as krunner, and a really good interface, along with getting rid of many glitches and other bugs) and it uses systemd.

Clover is Gentoo for lazy homosexuals.

CloverOS is literally just a script that installs Gentoo for you. There's no need for CloverOS documentation because Gentoo documentation already exists.

as a meme distro/for tinkering, yes

for actual work fuck no lol, use something like solus, ubuntu, opensuse or mint

nice wallpaper
can i have the image?

CloverOS GNU/Linux

Git: gitgud.io/cloveros/cloveros
ISO: cloveros.ga/s/CloverOS-x86_64-20180208.iso
Libre ISO: cloveros.ga/s/CloverOS_Libre-x86_64-20180208.iso
GPG: 78F5 AC55 A120 07F2 2DF9 A28A 78B9 3F76 B8E4 2805
IRC: #cloveros on irc.rizon.net
Twitter: twitter.com/cloveros_ga
Packages: 3514 cloveros.ga/s/packages.html
Rsync: rsync://fr.cloveros.ga/cloveros
License: WTFPL
Mirrors: useast.cloveros.ga fr.cloveros.ga fr2.cloveros.ga au.cloveros.ga uk.cloveros.ga ca.cloveros.ga uswest.cloveros.ga
Validate ISO:

gpg --keyserver hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-key "78F5 AC55 A120 07F2 2DF9 A28A 78B9 3F76 B8E4 2805"
wget cloveros.ga/s/signatures/s/CloverOS-x86_64-20180208.iso.asc
gpg --verify CloverOS-x86_64-20180208.iso.asc CloverOS-x86_64-20180208.iso

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There's documentation at gitgud.io/cloveros/cloveros#cloveros anyway

it's pretty good

Samefag AND furfag.
We've hit new levels of Holla Forums

Not me.

How can it be WTFPL? Even the kernel isn't compatible with it, is it?

WTFPL allows relicensing, so its defacto GPL wherever it touches I'd presume?

The bash scripts and configs are WTFPL

Tried it, it's better than debian but it still doesn't compare to slackware.
It's fun but i guess my opinion on it might be tainted a bit since i don't really understand gentoo all that much.

Slightly better quality

Clover is to Gentoo what Manjaro is to Arch. It's good if you want a temporary stepping stone to get used to the OS because you're a newfag who's scared of the text-based installer, but you're going to have a much better experience if you just install and set up the real OS yourself.

more like what debian is to devuan. gentoo and clover both suck cock (as an actual os, good meme) anyways so who cares?

Your tears are delicious, lennart poottering.

nice id, fag

hi kevin. The only distro that doesn't constantly break, rolling release or not, is gentoo. Not to mention it's systemd free and has the second largest repo of any distro right behind aur, or that patching something is as simple as dropping a patch in a directory and reinstalling the package using the package manager, no need for any extra commands or indications or anything. Or USE flags. Or acutally good hardening.

The other retard doesn't know what he's talking about. Use testing. It's like arch but more stable. I've been running Debian Testing for the past 3 years with virtually no issues that aren't PEBKAC.

gr8 b8 m8

I don't know what you're smoking. Care to show any proof, mate?

I've had the opposite experience, CloverOS is much more refined and has some defaults that Gentoo should've had to begin with.

You shouldn't use Debian Testing in a production/personal machine. Debian Testing doesn't get any security updates, and regular updates are usually delayed one week or so, so it stays vulnerable to all sorts of known security problems for about a week.
The purpose of Debian Testing... Is to test packages. Don't use it unless you want to help the Debian project. Debian Unstable and Debian Stable are the only things you should be using.
Not possible. The way packaging works in GNU/Linux means that you either have a unstable, regression-prone system (like Arch or Debian Unstable) or a stable, unchanging system (like Debian Stable or CentOS.)
Our best bet is for Snappy/Flatpak to catch on and be finished so we can have the latest packages in a stable base.

>>>/g/

you might not want to make regular posts from mod.php, mod-kun~

It's nice that it downloads packages from all mirrors at once with 16 connections

I know your post is from months ago but I didn't have to do any of that. I just installed OpenVPN and it worked.

wbar is about to be added to iso because it has no extra dependencies. It'll be available via right click menu

Stop being a lazy homo and install Gentoo without Clover.
Its CFLAGS are dangerous and largely unnecessary according to the Gentoo wiki.
They also seem to be arranged in a way as to "outsmart" package maintainers who override them which is the single biggest DO NOT DO in the whole article on optimizations.
Stop using a literal meme-OS and use the OS that it abuses.

why would i compile my software to be slower though

Because C/C++ is unsafe as fuck sp nobody is able to write correct code in it which means if you go full hurr durr -O9000 gcc fucks your shit up.
Rewrite it in Rust, then you can do -O9000 safely.

lmao butthurt

Opinion discarded.

Gotta go fast

Lel'd, this should be a banner
Gonna install just to test

breddy gud

I'd like a transparent/non-clover version of that monster girl for scientific purposes

I could program a computer to write bullshit responses like this if I could program.

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Can we please just stop creating a billion fucking esoteric distros and then wonder why Linux isn't becoming a mainstream desktop operating system? If you want a desktop Linux distro chose from the main ones: Ubuntu, Debian, Arch, Fedora, OpenSUSE or Gentoo. Or build your own from scratch.

But, the way things are now, if someone new to Linux were to look up the best distro to download, he'd find hundreds of different answers. And if he were to post on a forum something like "Thinking about choosing this one. Any opinions?" he'd start a never-ending flame war. Do you think that encourages potential newcomers?

It's time to shut up, grow up and start improving existing open-source distros rather than forking them.

Who cares ? Especially ones who would chose what distro to install based on whatever the consensus on some internet forum would be. Fuck those guys

Dude, I literally do not know a single person who didn't choose his first distro either based on his friends' recommendation, or based on the recommendation of people online.

because you are cancer those around you are too

I disagree I've installed arch before and every time after I just go with antergos. I've extracted no deeper understanding from typing in esoteric commands into a CLI from the wiki. And if I'm supposed to read the man pages for every single fucking command, then I'll just do that on my own time and not when I'm just trying to get my computer into a usable state.

Yeah, sure, it's the people I know, it's not the fact that we have spent the past 3 decades building an amazing tool that makes the entirety of human knowledge available (and easily searchable) to everyone everywhere all the time for free, and everyone uses it for everything, including choosing their operating system.

Look m8, more users would benefit absolutely every single current Linux users out there. And if Linux went mainstream, then man, that would just be the best. Cause many of them to dual-boot Windows, because not many companies make software for Linux, and would really like not to have to.

But that's never going to happen if you can't control your addiction to forking every single project you see because you believe it can be improved in this tiny little way, and the current maintainers don't agree. And it's certainly not going to happen if you are then going to form a tribe around your favorite distro and declare war on everyone else.

"Windows sucks, but it's better than having to deal with this nonsense."

"But we don't want these kinds of people" I hear you say. Maybe not, but it's the kind of people you are going to fucking need if you want the Linux Desktop to have any amount of mainstream success. And if you don't then you are a disgrace to everyone you know and you fucking kill yourself.

All of those distros have lead to nothing but hurt for me. I've had an easier time dealing with and setting up gentoo than those pieces of shit.

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The fuck you talking about? Are you actually retarded? Linux became popular because Microsoft ruined their operating system (more than it already was)

Jesus Christ, I don't want more proprietary software, not because I dislike proprietary software, but because proprietary software tends to be shit.

I don't want software of a certain kind, I want good software, and Linux is better than Windows, and if it had all the software Windows has, everyone would use it which would be better for everyone, including for you.

What you want is your own little community away from the outside world. Unfortunately for most of us who actually have a fucking life and have are forced to use Windows have to suffer everyday because of you and your mentality.

Lol. You are stuck in your reddit bubble. Linux dominates server and embedded, on the desktop it is - and will always be - irrelevant.

Wrong. Proprietary is superior. Chrome is better than Firefox. Steam is better than GOG. Spotify is better than bittorrent. Gmail is better than Thunderbird. Discord is better than IRC. Goggle Docs is better than OpenOffice. Windows is better than Linux.
Pray tell, what software that is not proprietary and only on Windows that causes you such heartache? Linux is already the most popular "OS" on mobile. We do not have to guess, but simply look at reality. And I know for a fact that Android is not better for me. But this is exactly the future you are wishing for, regardless of your ignorance of it.

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Fuck off CIANigger.

fixed

gmail is also a webmail client

That's been objectively wrong sine Quantum.

OpenOffice has been dead for the past 7 years, which just goes to show how familiar you are with FOSS. LibreOffice, it's successor, is better than Google Docs and almost on par with Microsoft's Office (the only things it's really missing in my experience are non-free fonts and table pivot in Calc).

What? No. Just no. The only thing Linux is missing is software. Aside from that there is literally no reason to use Windows. It's objectively inferior in every way imaginable.

I'm not saying that some proprietary software isn't better than some free software. Adobe's stuff is a good example. IBM AIX too. But Windows is just utterly shit. Fucking crashes all the time. Unable to install itself in a partition without writing it's shitty bootloader that can't boot into any other OS to the MBR. Unstoppable updates. No Ctrl-Alt-F3 to get you out of a GUI freeze. Spies on you. No way to update all the software on your computer, need I go on?

And what is? iOS? Well that still *nix you fucking moron. Windows Phone? I quit.

no one actually uses arch or gentoo, and if they do they're retards who fell for the meme

No shit you didn't learn anything it's basically automated. Install gentoo and you'll probably learn something.

been using sid for a while now and its never given me any problems, that said, i didnt go crazy trying to fuck with shit either, i think its mostly the stuff that the user changes that breaks shit, but what else can you really expect from a bleeding edge distro anyway?

t. devlet

I made CloverOS, ask me anything

why

yeah why, is it any good for vidia?

why made another easy gentoo when funtoo and calculate exist?

You should really write an article about your whole setup.
It's seriously godlike. Well, for anime music, but still, that's something.

So it's easy to manage my 5 Gentoo boxes and install it on new boxes.

It might be the best distro for vidya because you can emerge any of these packages

gitgud.io/cloveros/cloveros/blob/master/binhost_settings/var/lib/portage/world#L175

You can just emerge rpcs3 to play ps3 games, emerge sdlmame to get the latest MAME version, emerge xonotic, and there's other games that are 1GB+ that you can get from CloverOS mirrors. I'm also working on including binaries of more games.

Funtoo is actually Gentoo plus a few features that I don't particularly use. I did like Calculate Linux at first, and I did learn from it. In the end, I decided to make a vanilla Gentoo image with a binhost configured in /etc/portage/make.conf.

I'll look into writing soon. chiru.no is mostly anime music because I collected a bunch of rare music first (I ended up making torrents and mirrored my collection to a couple people, so this worked out). I listen to other music, but I wasn't as concerned of putting them on my raidz. I'll add more non-anime music in time.

Why would anyone still go there?

for filling out google v2 captcha and tapping street signs all day

Jesus christ. Imagine being so far gone that you unironically use a forum ran by a chink who sells your user information, inflates the post CD so you'll buy a pass, and mandates that you do slave work for googles AI every time you want to post something.

Is this some new form of cuckolding?

pls, don't compare cloveros to manjaro. even cloveros, a distro made by an user, is more professional than manjaro. manjaro is cancer. They """Forget""" to renew their ssl certs every year and all they do is that they make up a new excuse. manjaro ( at lest used to ) waits until packages from arch repos are """Stable enough""". in effect this mean that bugs don't get fixed. and don't even mention aur access. gentoo overlays are better in every way, aur is over-glorified dump of shell scripts and many of them aren't even maintained anymore. Also AUR isn't meant for people who are new to the GANOO system. If you use AUR, you should be able to read (and understand!!) the shell scripts, as they can execute ARBITRARY CODE. Now manjaro is cuck'd by Microsoft (they include MS office online in the installation now).

CloverOS is gentoo with default configs and binhost (you can disable it, if you really want to).

That's pretty niggerlicious.
With GOG you actually own the game. plus everything what said. Botnet 10 just keeps getting worse and worse with every update.

It is made by 4chan's /g/, what do you expect?

you have to build cloveros like you would gentoo, right?
if yes, how long does it take, and if no, how long would it take if you were to install gentoo with cloveros like setup?
please include your system specs!

Yes but No. CloverOS has a binhost that holds some prebuild binary packages.
Installing gentoo takes a whole day, i would say (i installed gentoo on a computer with some inlel i5 and 8 GB of RAM). I once installed gentoo on my sub $300 laptop and it took nearly three days to get all my applications and openbox installed (i used ssh & tmux to install it so i didnt sit in front of the computer the whole time).
If you have multiple computers, then you can use distcc to compile faster.

CloverOS installs in about 2 minutes

Gentoo doesn't take nearly that long if you actually now what you are doing. Even more so if you are moving over configs you already had.

Here's a thing that can generate a wbar config for you using your installed programs

first mkdir ~/.wbaricons

grep -E '^Name=|^Icon=|^Exec=' -hr /usr/share/applications | sed 's/Name=/t: /; s/Exec=/c: /; s/Icon=/i: /; s#\(i: \)\(.*\)#i: .wbaricons/\2.xpm#; 0~3 a\\' >> .wbar && ls -v1 /usr/share/pixmaps/*.{png,ico} /usr/share/icons/hicolor/*/apps/*.* /usr/share/pixmaps/*.{xpm,svg} | sed -r 's#(.*/)(.*)(\..*)#convert \1\2\3 ~/.wbaricons/\2.xpm#' | xargs -I{} sh -c {}

Isn't gentoo compstible with systemd? Will it work on clover?

You can emerge systemd from source by removing -G from /etc/portage/make.conf

Thanks, I'll check it out then. Is there a video I could watch as a tutorial for installing clover?

Also does clover have its own repos?

It uses Gentoo's ebuilds. When it's time to compile the program, it gets a binary from the CloverOS binhost instead: useast.cloveros.ga

Video:

or youtube.com/watch?v=PXFwN3q1VaY

It comes preinstalled with a GUI package manager? Nice.

Insisting bait isn't bait is still bait. Here is your (You)

Do the precompiled packages rely on the custom repo to be updated? If so would it be easy simply removing cloveros repo packages and just disabling the repo?

There's no custom repo, just a binary host. You can switch to source by removing the -G part in /etc/portage/make.conf or using cloveros_settings.sh

Oooh, sorry, I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to actual technical things in Linux although I've been using it since 2001

I rather just use open bsd. works for everything I do. Is already installed. I run basically 4 different programs. 1 for ham and the rest for school. Why switch to some meme os.

retard detected

How do I install Gentoo?

Install CloverOS
set the make.conf to install from source
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profit

is there an advantage to installing from source?

Nope, but thats the standard Gentoo experience

Then fuck that, the CloverOS installer is real shit

The installer is literally:
partition or drive to install to
root password
user name
user password
then install. Literally the easiest fucking installer I've ever used.

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Sure works well...

I wanted to redo (most of) my configs as I used to use xfce. And, as I said, I didn't sit in front my computer the whole time. And I checked the price of my laptop and it didn't cost more than bit more than $200.
Or are you are referring to the time that it took for me to install it on my desktop? It was the first time I installed gentoo, so i had to read the docs.

Yes,
1) The binaries will be optimized for Your hardware.
2) You can choose the options and features you want.

But I recommend that you install CloverOS. You can then remove the binhost and compile everything, if you really want to.

Yes, you can compile against arbitrary library versions and add arbitrary patches. That's one big reason why gentoo is much more stable than any other OS.

On a 8 years old low-end laptop it took about half a day to install gentoo. Aside from firefox/qtwebenengine/chrome (I just use firefox-bin and such or it would take 12 hours extra) it takes about 3 hours to install on a 6th gen i5 with 16GB ram.

wbar auto-configure

emerge imagemagick && mkdir ~/.wbaricons/

grep -hE '^Name=|^Icon=|^Exec=' $(grep -rl "^Icon=" --exclude={compton,brasero,steam,gcr-viewer}.desktop /usr/share/applications/) | sed 's/Name=/t: /; s/Exec=/c: /; s/Icon=/i: /; s#\(i: \)\(.*\)#i: .wbaricons/\2.xpm#; 0~3 a\\' >> .wbar && ls -v1 /usr/share/pixmaps/*.{png,ico} /usr/share/icons/hicolor/*/apps/*.* /usr/share/pixmaps/*.{xpm,svg} | sed -r 's#(.*/)(.*)(\..*)#convert \1\2\3 ~/.wbaricons/\2.xpm#' | xargs -I{} sh -c {}

Install Debian instead or CrunchBang++ if your favorite WM is Openbox (like me)

cloveros is basically a better crunchbang and it has an option for openbox

jesus fucking christ you're retarded
no, both of them are as different as trueOS is to netBSD except debian is much better

He said CloverOS is like Crunchbang. CloverOS is to Crunchbang as Gentoo is to Debian.

Now, think, what is the difference between Gentoo and Debian? That's right, they're both GNU\Linux distros, but they're two separate projects. Now that we've established that, what's the difference between Crunchbang and Debian? That's right, Crunchbang and Debian are both Debian distros, but the aim of Crunchbang is to be lightweight and preconfigured.

From that established knowledge, we can infer that was trying to convey that CloverOS is a project that contrasts Gentoo in that it's trying to be lightweight and preconfigured.

Excellent job, class! You used simple logic to comprehend what the other poster was saying rather than intentionally misconstruing what they had to say for the sake of being argumentative. Now it's time for snacks!

I'm sorry that you had to do this on the behalf of this board's reading comprehension.

you're even more retarded than the other guy

ftfy

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What window manager is that?

Did you file a bug report?

FVWM

wat? It uses the gentoo way of setting those via make.conf and package.env.
Those are passed to gcc first so if a dev knows know bad compiler flags and defines them in his make/cmake script (-no-featurethatbreaksshit) those will be passed last and disable the make.conf/package.env flags.
Now I think that generally trying to use anything more than -O2 on a system wide basis and then just defining exceptions like clover OS does is a bit of a waste though. Just rice CFLAGS and test them well on programs where it would really make a difference.
And even then, there are devs that mainly use Windows and whatever shit Microsoft IDE available who just repeat decade old mystery tales about compiler optimization without ever having tested things, ie MAMEdev setting -O3 as the default optimization setting but recommeding against -march=native.

today i installed cloveros on an old netbook i had laying around

install gentoo

You mean watered down gentoo? Haha no

for heavens sake, user. if you're gonna go with a meme go all the way and install dwm or pekwm

What's wrong with i3?

Wheres the WM ram usage fag when you need him.

i need to talk about my arch install and my socks cuz i'm from /g/ and im a professional i3 configurer and arch install maintainer t. average captchachanner

dwm is more of a meme

It's a good WM. The code is like 2k lines, you want to change something you can. Try to change something in KDE or some other shit, it's way harder.

Who cares about the amount of code it's made with if it's garbage Xorg shit. KDE w/ wayland is currently your best choice.

I didn't want to go through the hassle of installing Gentoo again, so I tried installing this instead -- but for some reason it wouldn't boot from the usb. Is it because my T60 doesn't have UEFI cancer?

You do realize i3-wm is used by professionals, right?

All I have to say.

How come?

Explain.

Why rice perfection?
i3's defaults are already great.

I would imagine they do

I like fast

lol
lmfao
rofl

I would imagine it's because CloverOS automates the install, taking away the one barrier of entry to the community.

Same here. Ended up doing a manual gentoo install but setting the make.conf as per cloveros (it's basically the same thing anyway).

All of these are true though. Especially chrome > firefox. Modern firefox is unironically unusable.

Tell me more about your custom i3-gaps build and extensively modified config set

So gentoofags are archfags now?

so I can install from gentoo repositories/use regular gentoo features with CloverOS?

Yes, just edit /etc/portage/make.conf

Don't you ever turn your shit off?

Not him, but pretty much the only time I turn my desktop off is to clean it.

It's a laptop, I just hibernate

Hibernate works?!

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Lol. Just run stable. Typically they don't wait 6 major revisions before stabilizing. 4.14 was stable a while ago but there were some strange bugs and then meltdown/spectre so they moved stable back to 4.9.

I used to play the distro hopping game but I've been plenty happy with Debian Unstable for the past few years. I might give this a try though since it actually looks like a pretty decent Gentoo fork. Not really a fan of the obvious 4chan branding though.

Wow, ur so smart using a testing distro as your main OS. It's called unstable for a reason m8. Way to fall for the meme

It's not even a fork lmao.
Just a set of bash scripts

comfy feels my brehs

i wouldn't even call it a distro. it's an install script.

gitgud.io/cloveros/cloveros/#thumbnail-file-picker-with-firefox

why kde4?

Everything's KDE5 except Gloriouskdefilepicker.png

has the theme on Oxygen

A few things about what I did not see in the supported packages library

Are you ever planning on getting tools like Chef, Puppet, or Vagrant?
Are you ever planning on gettiing Xen packages for virtualization?
Are you ever planning on getting packages for ticketing systems, such as OTRS, Trac, etc?

I would love to deploy a preconfigured Gentoo if it's really any better, but without configuration management, ticketing, or virtualization I couldn't make the leap.

I'll see into including those. Including packages are the highest priority.

no

Added: xen xen-tools vagrant puppet trac otrs

Looking at this right now: gpo.zugaina.org/app-admin/chef

sweet
I'll be installing it on my server testbed and giving it a whirl
thanks

Still working on this, everything will probably be there tomorrow.

broke out the T410 today

Is there a 32 bit version?
How much RAM does your install take without firefox open?

my install takes about 150mb, but thats because I'm still running apache on this thing. Otherwise it doesn't eat that much memory until you turn on firefox or waterfox.

I already read that it's systemd free.
So what's with 32-bit X86 processors?
And how is the driver situation on there?

x86 is being tossed around, no idea if it will become a thing, since most of our computers use a architecture from at least the past 15 years. The driver situation is fine, my T410 has that shitty integrated nvidia gpu, but the open source driver works fine. There is the option to switch to the proprietary driver in the ./cloveros_settings.sh.

this would be excellent for an atom netbook, and I really like your script, but you should look at the debian installer to get a look at how automated script install should perform

I am not angry and I think all of the work you did so far is really good, but at the same time, documentation and more install options would be nice.

At the very least you should hold true to your memes and have an amd64, UEFI bootable version for server deployment, or mention somewhere that you're only supporting BIOSboot and x86 right now.

Best of luck on this project. I like your design philosophy and your work ethic.

Sad. Wanted to install it on my old laptop I spanked with OpenSUSE. It sucks on old hardware especially on a 32-bit processor.
Don't ever install LXDE. It's so broken you have to switch icons so that the settings menu doesn't crash!
tldr: THX anyways

In the worst case, if you can't start the CloverOS live USB, you can always download the install_script.sh from another live USB distro, run it as root, and it will install CloverOS that way instead.

I got it booting, but not via UEFI, but as legacy BIOS
the partition I installed to was not BIOS bootable by my Dell r710

You sure it doesn't say X86_64?
"X86_64" is "amd64"

Yeah it would be nice for CloverOS to have x86 and maybe even ARM support, but that depends on if the dev can get that functioning properly. Also yes LXDE is steaming pile of shit, it is available in the CloverOS repo for masochists, but you should install windowmaker or FVWM instead for a lighter and better experience.

okay, I see what you did here
you're using vfat for the automatic install and just making that bootable
primitive af

I barely read the line because it flew past, but
grub-install --target=i386-pc /dev/$drive &> /dev/null
was me misreading that

in any case I'll probably go back into what the installer script did to try to make it bootable

This also isn't the only application that has problems like this.
You are better off installing shit from source then using cloveros's binhost

blender needs more use flags

Blender has ffmpeg now

[ebuild R ~] media-gfx/blender-2.79-r1::gentoo USE="bullet collada colorio dds elbeem ffmpeg fftw game-engine jemalloc llvm ndof openexr openmp openvdb player sdl sndfile tiff valgrind -cuda -cycles -debug -doc -headless -jack -jpeg2k -libav -man -nls -openal -opencl -openimageio -opensubdiv -osl {-test}" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python3_5 -python3_6" PYTHON_TARGETS="python3_5 -python3_6" 0 KiB

Currently in: trac otrs vagrant

Working on Xen, getting a dumb ghostscript error at the end.

I want to help in some way, most likely distributing the binaries. However I can't do so in a reliable, server-like way. Could it be possible to add a mirror that fetches from a p2p source like ipfs? Also is there a solution not-as-shit as ipfs (keeps clubbering my network and leaking memory with ipfs-go)?

Is there any chance for sndio support? It would add basic things like per app volume without pulseaudio insanity
void linux got it working with vlc, mpv, mpd, sdl2, libao and firefox

github.com/voidlinux/void-packages/search?o=desc&q=sndio&s=committer-date&type=Commits
sndio.org/

I hope they realize any patches they could possibly need are in the openbsd ports tree.
Could easily do an overlay with all the patches but honestly its too much effort. You end up having to patch loads of other ebuilds to work around hardcoded crap. And some of the ebuilds are horrific; ffmpeg and anything to do with browsers outsource loads of stuff to eclasses and considering these are the types of things that will need patching it makes it a real pain in the dick.

anything other than ubuntu/ubuntu flavors are a meme.

You're a meme.

I met a Suse employee who was an obvious soyboy and he couldn't shut up about how great systemd was, and was visibly offended when I likened it to cancer.

Suse was good in the old days because YaST was much better than anything else if you needed a user interface for system management. I think it was deployed in a lot of places where you didn't have a good Unix culture simply because it was easy and cheap / free.

But sage, clover's a reskin with botnet problems, there is no actual reason to use it.

almost certainly not

games-emulation/citra added

3ds emulator

The easiest way is to run an http server with the cloveros repo in it. Then that gets added the mirror list in /etc/portage/make.conf It doesn't have to be reliable since aria2c uses all available mirrors.

It's a gentoo installer for noobs like us
explain

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Reimu? with THAT belly? have some shame.

Nigger could you proxy-maint fvwm? Would be a nice way for Clover project to give something back to Gentoo proper.

All the better to mating press

Clover OS is the best thing ever. It's made by one of my close friends too. Pretty neato

she probably hadn't found the CloverOS repo yet gitgud.io/cloveros/cloveros/ or just don't know how to disable the binhost.

8-themed option for non-cuckchan users when?

The one thing I would care about: Reproducable builds. THIS is what we need for the future, where I would like to see some progress. I don't know how to get there, though. Sharing config files for VMs with the package and the checksum?

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Why do clover posters always have uglies on their wallpaper?

go back you dont belong here

Just change the background colour red in gimp.

What? If this is a great wallpaper, and so are the others. Want them for my other distro, maybe remaking them.

Security updates are a meme at this point.

I bet you think sucking dick isn't gay.

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Your English was a little too broken for me to understand. Were you offering to give we those wallpapers?

That's not how it works.

Damn those ads. Really sad to see this.

this.
otherwise noone will ever want to install a distro made by the hacker known as cuckchan.

Sorry, it was late, typing error and I'm also not a native speaker. I really like those wallpapers. Would like to use them on my computer, but without the CloverOS branding. I'm thinking of remakeing them.

install it

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Updated mirror list:

binhost_mirrors=$PORTAGE_BINHOST",useast.cloveros.ga,https://uswest.cloveros.ga,https://ca.cloveros.ga,https://fr.cloveros.ga,https://nl.cloveros.ga,https://uk.cloveros.ga,https://au.cloveros.ga,https://sea.cloveros.ga,"

I fell for the meme and installed it. The install itself was trivial, but when I tried to emerge tmux, I was met with not one, but TWO circular dependency errors. Please unfuck the default packages.

Can this thread fucking die already?
Answer: No
Reason: Unstable meme shit distro that's maintained by a team too small to handle a repository
Other options: Any distro with systemd. If a distro has systemd in 2018 it proves the developers are sane and move along with better, more advanced technologies.

I see lennart is in full panic mode now that everyone's abandoning his shitshow that is systemdick. Nice.

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i don't get why when you go to shutdown or reboot your system these days alot of the time it just decides to fuck you over and wait at least a minute and a half
unmount the fucking hard drives and reboot, why am I just waiting an arbitrary 1:30 for
systemDumbCunt

Don't install this, the binhost manager is retarded when it comes to useflags.
half the shit is broken beyond the absolute basic use.

>(((who))) could be behind that post

koishi

wallpaper plz

but you can just install gentoo.

if you're having a problem, please actually tell me what the problem is or take a screenshot

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The install (to be clear though, this was the version from earlier in March) came with circular dependencies - for git and perl. The latter is easy to fix (perl-cleaner) but I don't know how to resolve the ones for git. Help.

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It's not based on Ubuntu and it doesn't use the Cinnamon desktop! Absolutely unusable!

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I know! It sucks that Cinnamon forces you to use pulse audio and systemD! Guess I'll have to use Mate and turn on compositing to enjoy my distro!

But Cinnamon doesn't force you to use systemd! And why should it matter? It's faster and more secure than any other init systems! :3
Have fun using a desktop environment that crashes when you do the simplest of customization, such as making the panel autohide or transparency, fag! x3

I have never had Mate crash so far, and it looks just as nice as Cinnamon with nice themes to go with it!

It has less features but uses +100mb more memory than Cinnamon too! Why use Mate (or any other UI) other than Cinnamon? x3

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That's bullshit, especially if you compile Mate to use less needless dependencies. Not that it matters to me, since I use windowmaker or enlightenment more often instead.
Better go back to 4/g/ before your furfag friends miss you.

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>>>/cuckchan/

It does when it's compiled into the binary or is set to use more shared libraries

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>>>/cuckchan/

You obviously don't understand how it works, newfag.

The people that put distros together and maintain them are not the same people that write induvidual packages.

The the code that a developer releases for his program makes up the so called "upstream".
The upstream code is then compiled and packaged by the distro (downstream) maintainers.
The guys that do the real work are the upstream developers and they have nothing to do with induvidual distros.

It's not like all those countless distros are completely different operating systems written from scratch, where for each one you need to have a workforce equivalent to microsoft's pajeet army to write millions upon millions of lines of code.

One guy can make a distro from scratch pretty easily. All he needs to do is write a basic package manager, set up a repository and write a few install scripts, maybe include a few custom config files.

Forking a distro is trivial, mostly because you don't have to write a package manager from scratch.
What you'll probably want to do in this case is decide on which packages to pre-install, pre-configure them if needed and change some install scripts.

So it's not difficult to shit out a new distro, even a dumbass like you could do it.

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Obvious samefaggotry

I'm not trying to hide it you retarded cunt

distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=submit

Vote for CloverOS

youtube.com/watch?v=RPBxgbU3LI4#t=11m

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Of course not.

This is the legacy luggage lad left behind. The FBI is running cuckchan very well.

pick one

Why would you even use Cinnamon or mate, when kde and xfce4 (or a window manager of your choice) exists?
SystemD isn't the fastest init. try shutting down a system that has systemdick in its guts, it takes like 2 or 3 times longer than a system without it.

I'm willing to bet that Cinnamon's popularity is entirely due to its name.

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extremely bloated, even compared to cinnamon. also is a memory hog
7 second bootup time on my machine, 3 second logout :)

pissed shit meme distro user

outdated garbage

thanks

Mint. It's a better Ubuntu.
Debian.
Gentoo can be absolutely anything you want it to be, compiling everything isn't as bad as you think.
kill yourself

Those are the only distros that exist.

funny you should say that, Gentoo can be bleeding edge too.

It is mostly useable on Void (but loop crashes on a musl vatiant) except for a few minor unimportant bugs.

I use it mainly for the ability to four way split my screen.

Dear Mr Gristlehead Bunched-Panties please
fuck off back to reddit

I don't think KDE uses that much memory anymore (especially on Gentoo, without baloo/akonadi/PIM stuff)! Even on some binary distros KDE systems seem to use as little as 300MiB.. Sure, we all would like it to be even less but considering that Gnome seem to use 2-4 times more it's pretty good

feh --bg-fill $(curl -s "cloveros.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=wallpaper&pid=$(shuf -n1 -i0-620)" | grep -oP "(?

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yeah, doesn't make it any less pointless.

Not really a full DE but windowmaker has the best interface.

It has a nice GUI for configuration, which is much more convenient than editing the config file.

What is the bar you are using at the top?

Bash script that eats a lot of cpu and needs to be rewritten in C

gitgud.io/cloveros/cloveros/raw/master/home/user/stats.sh

urxvt -geometry 400x1+0+0 -fn '6x13' -sl 0 -e ./stats.sh

nice, thanks

In live mode the stats.sh doesn't display my volume or battery. Is this just a quirk with live mode or does it seriously not recognize them?
(ThinkPad X230)

Set your default sound device in ~/.asoundrc to get volume:
defaults.pcm.card 1defaults.ctl.card 1

Battery depends on /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/capacity

does the RX480 sound work yet? the command that you posted earlier doesn't work.

CloverOS now uses LibreSSL instead of OpenSSL

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fuck off

Why are you mad? Let him have his fun. Just hide the thread if you don't like it.

terminology is pretty good

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can it russell

i'd use gentoo if i didn't have to manually configure my USE flags. otherwise it's a pretty cool distro.

It's not that bad to do manually. When you are installing a package with -a / --ask it will show you all the USE flags so if you see something you want you can do it then. Once it's done it's done and you can copy those USE flags to any machine you set Gentoo up on.

Could someone add netsurf (the framebuffer version with javascript support) to the binary repos? I might actually start using this.

" If you develop or compile software that requires new versions of libraries this is a problem, since versions in repos date back to 4000 BC..."
BWAAAAAAA-HAA-HA-HA ! ! !
Laughing so damn hard because it's true.
Okay - do you have an older system or don't want all the Bullshit systemd drags with it ?
(Why the fuck would you tie the init system in with running processes once the system is up ? ? ?
'The Man' with '5 eyes' ? )
Check out the Devuan distros. Systemd free. They are even set up to keep from pulling in systemd dependencies.
K.I.S.S.

devuan.org/os/partners/devuan-distros

doing it now

This thread is solid proof that this board is already /g/.

Gee user, what quote gave you that idea?

the profile sets some basic USE flags, so you won't have to do everything yourself. Also, when you get CloverOS/Gentoo set up, you don't have to fiddle with USE flags that often.