Art and Money

Here is a silly question that boggles my mind.

is "art" more valuable then Gold? would it be a better investment for gold?

and why is it that jews promote degenerate art? do you think it has to do with the fact that its easy to make therefore, making them profitable and easy to produce means big money for the kikes to fund themselves?

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That, coupled with them wanting to dumb goyim down and make them children.

Than*, you ignorant fucking nigger.

I don't need a video. The only thing that makes art REALLY valuable is Jewish money laundering.

hey yidnon, I think you dropped this "valuable artpiece"

Heil them dubs

Art has been commonly used to exchange less than reputable goods and services and is a way to circumvent exchanging actual money.

Hey nignon, I think you dropped out of school and take it personally when someone points out that you butcher the language like a nigger.

nice redditspacing yidcuck :^)

There's a fantastic semi-documentary by Orson Welles called F for Fake. It basically explains the entire art dealer world.

Better reddit spacing than using the language like a nigger. Go the fuck back to school and figure this shit out.

Sorry I can't hear you over your cuckspacing lad, you might want to kill yourself

You did the same exact thing in you flaming homo

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lad

Kek.

Worrying about shit-tier chan preferences over the actual language; and do the exact same spacing yourself. You think pointing out where I did something autists find to be wrong somehow excuses you from your nigger-tier butchering of the English language?

You really think you belong here?

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Defending the fucking language from nigger-tier degenerates isn't a kike thing, faggot. You might be on to something, but you post like a nigger, so nobody will give a fuck.

Fix your shit, or fuck off.

Found a picture of you, Rabbi.

Is that jew fish i smell?

Degenerate art begets degenerate thinking begets an identitiless hoard of consumers that value base pleasures and the money that enables it over everything else. This drains the populace of its accumulated wealth into the hands of people who provide no value except entertainment to the populace.

Oy vey you goyim dont undahstand, dis thread needstah die, all these antisemitism is killing my back, OY! you talk like a Kushi… I mean nigger!

Seems as if all that time you spent hunched over your shekels really paid off, huh.

no wonder hitler wanted to destroy all of that shit.

Is it really that difficult to admit you were wrong, and make a human-tier post? Apparently so, but that's nigger behaviour.

Right, somehow telling you to fix your fucking grammar is Jew-level kikery instead of fixing your fucking degeneracy.

Stop whining and fix your shit, faggot.

Jewish artists can't compete with non-Jewish artists if the standards are not degenerate. Samuel Roth talks about the difference in tastes between Jews and non-Jews.

Jews find a nude attractive woman painting with an emotionless stance/expression to be praiseworthy over one of a nude attractive woman who is smiling, happy or sensual.

Imagine a Play Boy model who had an emotionless face and pose, compared to one smiling and in a playful pose.

Here is another Jew on non-Jewish women (not Sam. Roth):
– (((Philip Roth))), Portnoy’s Complaint

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If it was a typo, you could have said that at the beginning… and made a human-tier post. You refused to do that.

It wasn't a typo, it's you being a fedorafaggot that never read a book in his life trying to use the language you were raised to speak and read. That's not an error ESL people make, it's one ignorant snowflake millennial degenerates make.

Degenerates can't fight the kikes, because their butchering of the language is in the service of (((them))).

What a waste of trips, you ellipses abusing cunt.

It's not misused at all, you degenerate faggot.
Learn the fucking language before using the latest buzz-word insult on someone that calls you out on a base-level nigger-tier degenerate MISUSE of the English language.

Someone who attempts to make a point with 8 post, and to make things worse, reddit spacing so the post becomes bigger and adapt attention whoring characteristics, consequentially spamming the thread, is a desperate attempt to derail the thread's main subject of discussion, you sir are a kike because your point regarding a typo has extended beyond 1 post potentially switching the subject of the thread, this is called sliding, and you are a perfect candidate for a ban, fuck off and kill yourself.

clearly you are an obvious newfag for not realizing that ID exist.

this isn't reddit.

reported

I'm sure you can honor yourself with your self-bumping masturbation.

Use the fucking language properly. Errors are errors, but yours is a lack of education because you're a degenerate nigger.

Yeah, figured I was still talking to the same faggot since you refuse to accept the fact that you are a dishonest coward.

No, it's not rEddit, now learn the fucking language so you don't look like a nigger when attacking the kikes.

Jackson Pollock, the drunk depressed degenerate who splattered paint on the ground, is the worlds most prized painter.

Holla Forums is not one person, you're not an alpha male where everyone follows your every word, your formatting is fucking disgusting which makes all of this ironic, do fuck off if you're not going to be on topic.

Holla Forums is not degenerate. You are. Fuck off if you're going to be degenerate.

You have issues with my formatting when you can't even grasp the language. Do you even know the difference between "than" and "then"?

at this point, you're clearly a shill, I was joking at first but you're trying way too hard.

overused buzzword / predictable shitposting

the answer is simple. Art was synonymous with artisan. It meant the act of perfecting a craft or trade. Art once meant to seek mastery of a skill. Art of War, Art of Dance, Art of Fencing etc. Art was not the product. The product from the process may be called a "work of art" which meant it was made by a master craftsman. Art was also considered man striving to seek transcendence. However the Jew realized that if they can make what defines mastery into something subjective then they can use propaganda to define what "art" is, thereby giving themselves the power to define its value. People today do not buy art, they buy status and pretentiousness because they want to be seen as sophisticated. Those who make money in the art world are those who have (((family ties))) to the (((art dealers))) and (((art critics))). They also encourage ugliness because that which is beautiful and transcendent, like a Gothic Cathedral, inspires national pride. And their is nothing the parasite fears more than a group of individuals realizing that these foreign tribe if living parisiticly of their labor through usury. They get away with it because the Goyim buy's the bullshit.
QUIT BUYING JEWISH CRAP WHITE MAN!

You're still being a dishonest coward.

Do you know the difference between "than" and "then"?

They promote it along with all other forms of modern 'art' for the same purpose, a money making scam.

thoughts on modern art pieces being used as an investment?

seems to compete well with gold.

Were you not paying attention? It's worthless after the kikes sell it to the goyim.

Only very few, very well known pieces keep their value.

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Well, if you think about it, kinda. Gold's worth comes from the time it takes to extract and process it right? Along with it's scarcity. I surmise this same idea applies to paintings as well. The worth comes from the time it takes to produce the work, and the quality of the work itself. There isn't a scarcity of paintings, but there is a scarcity of good paintings. At least now-a-days. The only drawbacks to paintings are, it's not as easily exchangeable. It's inferior to gold in that it doesn't have commercial or industrial use, and it's usually larger and harder to exchange physically and would be a more obtuse process.

Why Jews promoted degenerate art…

Today we know that OP is a faggot because Hitler wrote about exactly this in Mein Kampf.

Want the answer? Read the book.

As for a comparison with gold, it's apples and oranges as you don't buy art by weight.

^well said

If you are willing to watch a Hollywood film. (Untitled) actually is pretty much the scam behind the cosmopolitan art world in a nutshell. One thing interesting about (((Hollywood))) is Kikes love to brag about their crimes. they call it chutzpah. As an unrelated note, I suspect many films about the "Italian mob" are actually about shit they do. They love to blame the Romans for all their crimes.

Except people have used works of art as status symbols for literally thousands of years, all over the globe. Jews only really entered the scene ideologically (as opposed to financially, of course; art has always been an excellent investment for the truly well-heeled) in the 19th century with modernist styles following in the wake of impressionism.


You're missing the most important piece, namely that because the value of a piece of art is entirely - entirely - arbitrary, someone can throw garbage onto a canvas and a few years of (((PR))) later after the pieces have all been bought up by friends of the patron it's suddenly worth millions of dollars. If it's more useful to de-value the art then the (((PR))) moves on to the next big thing and/or shifts market trends and the value will fall. In the current paradigm, this at-will manipulation of value is the lynch pin of the intersection between the world of art and the world of finance.

Now it makes sense. OP is a kike attempting to plant the idea of "invest in (((art))) goyim!"

then I guess it is arguably a superior investment moneywise, an alternative to gold and silver, it holds up at least because Gold can be reproduced or made using materials like mercury, although you have computers trying to emulate art, it is still nowhere good or valuable then the original, it also doesn't destroy any value that the original has whatsoever.

in the investment world for arts, I believe the key value is the art itself and it's meaning as well as the artist, if it has the signature of someone like da vinci or van gogh, the pricetag increases tremendously.

Yes but the value of that art was based on something substantive, where as modern art is based on hearsay and pretense. People are buying the pretense that if they own x then they will be seen by the intellectual (((critics))) as also being smart and worldly. Moreover you missed the point that art is not the product, art is the process of mastery. By removing the transcendental human element form the artistic process they have turned it inward. They turned art into narcissism. In traditional culture the product that was commissioned would be a Monument, Castle, Church etc. Now all people are buying is just another shallow brand of virtue signalling.

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For the artist, maybe. Not necessarily so for whoever bought it.

I'll agree with that as an independent statement, but not as part of the statement above.

This is nothing new. There are certainly people who buy art because they love it but there are many, many more who buy art so they don't get looked down upon. I've spent a fair bit of time around the obscenely wealthy and for many of them an expensive piece of art (and not only modern, either; old money loves old art) is something between an investment and a fashion statement with no metahysical strings attached beyond a superficial appreciation.

The validity of this statement relies on context.

It was already inward in many (though certainly not all) cases and its transcendentalism was eminently intact; the fact was just well-hidden until romanticism became acceptable.

Sure, I can agree that that's the contemporary state of "art".

Or a portrait or a statue or an opulent home or some other way for someone with too much money to show off their wealth without getting the Church's attention.

Again, not new.

If you were to launder your money let's say, by selling something valuable, it would be a pain in the ass since you first had to get the valuables that you would sell overpriced to the person who's giving you the dirty money. It has to look like normal transaction or else it's suspicious.

Canvas and paint cost practically nothing so it's piss easy to create "super expensive" modern art which you would use as the product to make dirty money look like legit money.

The whole purpose of European art is beauty. These things are understood as beautiful by all and are timeless. Marxists believe that beauty is entirely subjective and so the purpose of their art is to shock. Remember the tame shit you used to get off too? It isn't very arousing any more is it? With pornography, you need to get harder and more degenerate shit to continue to get off, and it is like that with Marxist art. What was shocking a century ago isn't and thus marxist art needs to get more and more extreme. Sadly this has affected architecture and sculptures, something not as easily removed as furry shit on deviantart. Jews see beauty, and they hate it. Jews are the antithesis of everything just and pure. When a Jew sees a beautiful woman, a piece of music or a happy family, he is enraged at the fact he doesn't have that and seeks to destroy it. We see the same in faggots, they can't have a proper family and so they seek to destroy the family unit. This applies to Jews because they see our art and our accomplishments and seek to erode them. Marxists and Jews are the same. Marxism is the result of Jewish thought infecting a gentile.

how about we start making expensive meme paintings.