SAMURAI JACK

Joseph Jones
Joseph Jones

FINAL EPISODE EDITION
For when the previous one goes over bump limit

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Jose White
Jose White

It's over, let it die.

Gavin Sanders
Gavin Sanders

If only I could die with it too

Asher Anderson
Asher Anderson

last good cartoon is dead
more than 10 years of waiting finally put to rest
Jack gets bittersweet ending
Time to figure out how to end my now empty life.

Luis Allen
Luis Allen

figure out
Jack never figured what to do after Ashi disappeared so why would you?

Colton King
Colton King

Traditional, exquisitely painful Japanese seppuku.

Matthew Harris
Matthew Harris

reposting another anons shit from the last thread:

I think a small change would really have helped solve so many issues. Have Aku opena portal to chase Jack and Ashi, then merge with her past self to have a cool fight scene. They could throw any time paradox bullshit after this and excuse it by saying that the merging of Akus created some sort of timeline loop co existance and not have to kill everyone in the future.

I know they had NO TIME but jesus, was there really absolutely no way to get more time for a season finale that has been in demand for so long?

Jordan Gray
Jordan Gray

Genndy has some fucking explaining to do.

Nicholas Allen
Nicholas Allen

watching all of the episodes now that they're out
hear a faint riff from the EYE Divine Cybermancy OST in the 2nd episode when jack is running through the temple
I know exactly what it is
Horry shit gendy a fan of EYE or something?
Time code 12:47 for the episode

Lincoln Harris
Lincoln Harris

IIRC Genndy said this would be a great ending in that one video he did with his wife. Why.

Thomas James
Thomas James

it's just a pilot, bro

Luke Gomez
Luke Gomez

Nearly everyone was already dead from the Akustorm

Joshua Torres
Joshua Torres

entire show is almost perfect
shits the bed in literally the last 2 minutes

Words can't describe this level of anger.

Hunter Flores
Hunter Flores

How about numbers?

Isaiah Sullivan
Isaiah Sullivan

Genndy lied
people cried

Thomas Adams
Thomas Adams

shits the bed in literally the last 2 minutes
literally the last 2 minutes
So, not counting the credits, this is where everything went so wrong.

Counting the credits it's when Jack appears in the forest on his horse.

Lincoln Smith
Lincoln Smith

He said it would be a tearjerker ending

Jonathan Jackson
Jonathan Jackson

Yeah, thats perfectly accurate.

Eli Gonzalez
Eli Gonzalez

even Zone is fucking pissed

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Jason Johnson
Jason Johnson

At least there wasn't the asspulled "no don't bring her back because uh, dead people are dead people and overpopulation or something" that TTGL had.

Grayson Price
Grayson Price

This ending is so badly made it physically hurts. The series had such great potential for a legendary ending, but instead, it was just pure disappointment.

Compare this to the "Birth of Evil" episodes. Those had fantastic direction, artwork, timing, and action sequences. This? They could barely draw Jack on-model for half the camera shots, and the plot was totally contrived. Ashi opening up a time portal to the past in 5 seconds? What. the. fuck. _Nothing_ in the series makes that a good ending! Just because you technically have justifications ("She's Aku's daughter") doesn't mean the progression is natural whatsoever.

Thematically, this love-conquers-all bullshit runs perpendicular to the rest of the show. How does Jack get past every hardship in the first four seasons? Dedication, a sense of duty, and sheer bravery (motivations which are often directly stated by characters). Here, it just sort of works out because it turns out his girlfriend has super-powers. Whoop-dee-fucking-doo.

The viewer should have been able to witness Jack finally being able to fight Aku to the death. There should have been a dramatic struggle between good and evil, where Jack is pushed to his absolute limits. But no, we get another Ashi wank-fest.

Who's idea was it to introduce a love story in the last few episodes? Why did the writers think anyone would care about Ashi in that time-span? Why is her character development so quick that they never reconcile the fact Jack killed her sisters? Why were Jack's parents still young when he came back? Why did Ashi take weeks to disappear in the past? Why did Jack stop aging in the first place? Why did they waste so much time in this season if it was planned to end in 10 episodes?

I can just tell how the planning for this episode went down.

"Okay guys, how should we end the series?"

"We should have Ashi and Jack kiss!"
"We should bring the Scotsman back and show how cool he is!"
"We should have cameos for everyone!"
"We should have Aku do more lolzy stuff!"

"Alright, settle down, settle down! We'll put everyone's ideas in the episode."

Aaron Peterson
Aaron Peterson

I cried.

Lincoln Green
Lincoln Green

In TTGL it was all about doing opposite what anti-spirals did. Brining back Nia would mean stagnation and refusal to more forward and adapt, something which would go against everything Simon learned and believed. There are more things to it, like selfishness of the decision and a remote possibility of bringing back anti-spirals.
Although it still didn't feel right. If they wanted Nia to be "a sacrifice," she should vanish during the final battle or immediately after.

Henry Garcia
Henry Garcia

Here, it just sort of works out because it turns out his girlfriend has super-powers. Whoop-dee-fucking-doo.
Her having Aku's powers doesn't really bother me. What does is the part where Jack saying "I love you!" is enough to take Ashi from "completely lost" to "total mastery of Aku's powers, even the ones she's never seen him use".
As far as time travel and Ashi disappearing is concerned, it doesn't bug me as much as I thought it would. I chalk this up to the fact that Jack himself didn't fuck off out of existence too. I mean, Jack was flung into the future where the undefeated Aku reigned supreme. By going back to the past and slaying Aku, even just moments after his defeat, he effectively negated the future he'd been sent to. So in order for him to continue existing as he is, he'd have to have some kind of time traveler immunity or something.
That Ashi doesn't have, even though she traveled through time, too. Actually, why would Jack have that in the first place?

Fuck, it's bothering me again.

Ryan Brown
Ryan Brown

There was a minor time skip between defeating Aku and the wedding. Obviously they didn't have a wedding ready for some future girl Jack would come back with.

Jace Price
Jace Price

Who's idea was it to introduce a love story in the last few episodes?
I smell executive meddling or Genndy going senile.
Why did the writers think anyone would care about Ashi in that time-span?
She's a gurrrrl.
Why is her character development so quick that they never reconcile the fact Jack killed her sisters?
10 episodes, but this is justifiable because they were raised not to care about anything. Caring about Jack is her character arc.
Why were Jack's parents still young when he came back?
He came back to the moment when he left.
Why did Ashi take weeks to disappear in the past?
Yeah, this one is pure bullshit.
Why did Jack stop aging in the first place?
Time travel fucks up his aging process. But this probably should have overridden the time paradox shit with Ashi too.
Why did they waste so much time in this season if it was planned to end in 10 episodes?
Probably a combination of CN telling them what to do, it being a hasty adaptation of a screenplay, possible reduction in the number of episodes, and the people involved not having worked on this show for over a decade.

Joseph Taylor
Joseph Taylor

I think it may be Genndy since I remember reading an article where he stated that he had this desire as a kid to go on adventures in a post apocalyptic wasteland with his girlfriend.

Ayden Garcia
Ayden Garcia

Jack returns to the past and undoes the future that is Aku
everyone complains

Never change, Holla Forums

Jaxson Adams
Jaxson Adams

you fucking virgins, since the dawn of ages it has been a thing for a man to love a woman. Granted that was introduced last season and it was rushed but yeah it was there.

Chase Lewis
Chase Lewis

Also if Jack really did get the happy married ending Holla Forums would have complained because it's unrealistic or something. We all knew Jack would have to pay consequences and sacrifice something for undoing Aku's future. In this case, his love.

Elijah Murphy
Elijah Murphy

The entire ending was shit, and I was enjoying myself all the way up until it. We get to see all of his friends reunite with him, only to see it all removed in one foul swoop. I would have accepted Jack making peace that he would not be able to go into the past and instead start his life with Ashi in the present or even have him die and let Ashi be the one to deliver the final blow. Anything but this ending that shits on every season, this one included, and makes every adventure all for nothing.

Just bad form, and a rushed hackneyed ending. AS should've given Genndy more episodes.

Isaiah Walker
Isaiah Walker

Billions of people died during Aku's reign and uncountable evil happened for thousands of years, for Jack to not undo that future just for his lover and friends would have been selfish. Trust me, I wanted Jack to let it go and stay in the future because all his friends in the future would cease to exist, but I always knew that was what he had to do. I wanted Genndy to twist his original plan and have him stay for one reason or another.

Also, this wouldn't have been fixed by more episodes, this was Genndy's endgame. If he wanted Jack to stay in the present he literally had the perfect setup with Ashi and the big battle at Aku's palace. He could have killed Aku there and that'd be the end of it. But that's how it had to be.

Zachary Garcia
Zachary Garcia

Billions of people died during Aku's reign and uncountable evil happened for thousands of years

Yes, but there was also unprecedented technological and medical advancments that would've set humanity on a path of great prosperity once Aku died. They had space travel and electricity and now all Jack's people have are basic pre-industrial technologies.

There was good with the bad with Aku and Jack did an excellent job of undoing the bad once he was in the future.

Also, this wouldn't have been fixed by more episodes, this was Genndy's endgame.

That's what I figured. I believe the ending should've been the entire battle for a full episode with a production value rivaling Jack's father's episode. More episodes would've spaced out literally everyone showing up to rescue Aku, freeing Ashi and Jack defeating him. It just would've been more meaningful, in my opinion, if Jack had accepted the situation and the series ended on a "you can't change the past" lesson with him being happy in the present while moving towards the future.

Then he'd have all this technological advancement, his friends, and his girl. Instead we get a sentimental ladybug scene while fading to black among a field of cherry blossoms. It feels like this wasn't meant to be the real ending, but I can't speak for Genndy.

Liam Garcia
Liam Garcia

You are right and now it bothers me too. Here's a diagram.

I think I figured out why Ashi disappears and Jack doesn't. When the two of them come back to the past, they arrive after Jack has been flung into the future. This means he's not present in that time to be affected by the changes they make (killing Aku). Since we see Jack arrive in the future with Aku, we know that these events happened in some sense. There's no stable time loop here. Killing Aku undoes the Aku-infested future, but does not undo Jack traveling to the future. So the paradox for Jack would be that he had to visit the world dominated by Aku to come back the way he did. In a timeline where Jack had always killed Aku in the past, Jack would have had none of his adventures and presumably sought out a time portal simply to return (and kill Aku), but not to save a future that had been fucked. He would see the world as it would become without Aku and have the utmost confidence that he would win the fight when he returned.

So then what actually happened in the show? Ashi vanished, presumably due to a time paradox. Jack was fine though. But should Jack have disappeared? Wouldn't the "correct" version of Jack, the one that hadn't lived 50 years in the future, have overridden the Jack we saw throughout the series? Unless Jack died in the Aku-free future into which he appeared, surely he would have sought a way home, and we see multiple methods of returning that have nothing to do with Aku (space ship, fairy, probably the Guardian's portal). So did we just see the altered version of the timeline take over? If that were true, then not only would Ashi be gone in the material sense, but Jack's memory of her (along with his memories of the future with Aku) would be erased. He would maybe be a little sad at the end for leaving the wonders of the future behind instead of mourning everyone he erased from existence.

The one thing we can be pretty sure of is that fucking with time travel does not create new, separate timelines. If that were the case, Ashi would have been fine (and the future would still be fucked since they didn't kill Aku there).

There are a couple of things that I think might salvage this story. One contradicts what I said just above. Ashi didn't disappear because of a time paradox, but because she needed Aku's essence to exist. This is not communicated effectively at all if it's the case. Other than the line where she says she can feel he's gone, there is nothing to suggest it. The other thing would be if "the future" into which Aku flung Jack isn't precisely the future, but a weaker version of time travel. In this version traveling back is not what alters time, but tearing open portals is. Aku tears open portals and sends people into a sort of time bubble outside the main timeline and returning to the past is actually leaving the bubble. How this would work would be stupid and convoluted, but something to the effect of a "cloned" reality could do it. You'd still have to explain a lot, like what happens after Jack leaves and why it takes Ashi so long to disappear, but at least it would explain why Ashi disappeared (she's not of this time) and why Jack doesn't age (he's not of the time bubble). The only suggestion to this version is the weird situation where time displacement seems to prevent Jack from aging.

Jeremiah Smith
Jeremiah Smith

Not everything needs a romantic subplot. It speaks to someone's insecurity that they want or accept romantic subplots being shoehorned into everything.

Nathan Price
Nathan Price

Also, Jack is a monumental asshole for never considering taking a book on physics or whatever back to the past with him.

Robert Ortiz
Robert Ortiz

They will eventually reach the same advancement as their future, if not more because the world of Samurai Jack has real magic and stuff like that. Aku probably destroyed much of the world's ecosystem not to mention unleashed uncountable numbers of monsters and mutants upon it. Could Jack and Co. eventually fix all of this? Probably, but that wasn't really his deal. Honestly Genndy should have gone with the "letting go of the past" and staying in the future type of ending. But it's a pretty straightforward narrative, honestly the real suprise is that Genndy really did take the premise and went 100% straight with it in the end.

Oliver Edwards
Oliver Edwards

All the classics in both literature or cinema feature either love, family, friendship or simple sexual desire. Did Jack need a love interest? Probably not but it didn't really ruin anything.

Ethan Ortiz
Ethan Ortiz

all this whining about the ending ( which was good).
Allmost no talk about the rest of the episode…

Cmon, anons.

Lincoln Morgan
Lincoln Morgan

They will eventually reach the same advancement as their future
Except in this timeline it takes longer because they don't have Aku's magic, meaning more time in which for people to die of diseases that could have been prevented with better medicine or die in wars that could have been prevented with better communications technology leading to centralization faster.

All the classics in both literature or cinema feature either love, family, friendship or simple sexual desire.
That's a lot broader than "romantic subplot" which is a cliche at this point.
Did Jack need a love interest? Probably not but it didn't really ruin anything.
It meant less time, which we can see directly in the pacing for the latter half of this episode.

Robert Perry
Robert Perry

Because the ending, understandably, overshadows most parts of the rest of the episode. The intro in the intro was fucking genius, though.

Landon Morris
Landon Morris

meaning more time in which for people to die
wow i really fucked that grammar up lol

Henry Myers
Henry Myers

They needed to setup Ashi to fuck Jack over one last time.

Logan Butler
Logan Butler

OK here's something I haven't seen anyone bitch about yet.

When Jack's daddy traps Aku in the sword and plants it in the ground Aku is just trapped. But Jack doing the same means Aku is dead. What changed?

Carson Collins
Carson Collins

If the world of SamJack is like our own, and Jack was flown thousand of years into the future, I really doubt their science would be that far off. Since Jack's past is like feudal Japan, and Aku's future is like thousands of years after that. Probably the year 3000 or more by that point. Besides, Aku was the war to end all wars. He probably made up for the human wars by doing his never-ending raiding. I mean there's like four seasons of Samurai Jack to show the future is completely fucked and everything is always getting attacked either by Aku or some other monster.

Eli Sullivan
Eli Sullivan

Oh wait, here's another thing.

Why does Ashi call Jack Jack after they go back to the past? That's not his real name.

Charles Rivera
Charles Rivera

That makes me wonder what his real name was anyway?

Kevin Thomas
Kevin Thomas

You make a good point but I will refer you to this

Camden Mitchell
Camden Mitchell

He spent much more of his life Answering to "Jack" than whatever his given name was.

John Brown
John Brown

Samurai jack: a thousand year old virgin.
gotta go back
back to the past
in every episode
I cant believe he went to the past!
letting go of the past
Jack tried to let go, bu ashi killed sudoku spirit.
Also he could use time portal a few times before, but he did saved someone in future instead, while they would not need saving if he just went to the past. This might imply that future will not be so different and actions in the future will still matter, based on cartoon logic. He might even live to see ashi born again, since he is Immortal Emperor of motherfucking Earth.
It was clusterfuck.
Yeah.

Lincoln Gomez
Lincoln Gomez

Well he was shirtless and in the middle of a battle no? Besides, evenn after all that time I don't think Jack really did learn much of how the stuff in the future works. He'll probably be a great emperor though, on account of being the greatest warrior of all time.

Noah Lee
Noah Lee

Samurai jack: a thousand year old virgin.
You don't need a romantic subplot for a character to have a sex life, my dude. My beef is with shoehorned romantic subplots that serve as a protagonist's motivation.

Owen Ramirez
Owen Ramirez

protagonist's motivation
When did Jack went out of his way because of romantic subplot? He dumped bitch multiple times.

Gabriel Jackson
Gabriel Jackson

Getting this printed at the next available opportunity.

Wish I had gotten the Aku Club Tee when it was being sold, instead of the fucking Spider-Man one that got ripped up anyway

William Clark
William Clark

Ending was fine, look at him smiling in the end, he sacrificed everything to go back to the past, and he got it, aku wont be ever more, he did his mission, it will hurt him forever to lose ashi, but this is overcompensated by a aku free world/universe. And he better keeps the Jack name in the past. Better ask Genndy after the ocean of complaints settles down.

Gavin Phillips
Gavin Phillips

shit on the episode all you will, ghost scotsman magic bagpipes and the giant robot annoying aku was the best shit ever
someone please make a better loop of this

David Wilson
David Wilson

ah wrong one

Anthony Jones
Anthony Jones

So is Jack still immortal, or did the reverse spin of going back in time, or whatever, make him mortal again?

The ending did feel rushed. Season renewal woes, or meddling execs are my initial assumptions. Why the hell did they drop all that precious closure with them not finishing the job in the future?

Brandon Cooper
Brandon Cooper

it's probably the execs, adult swim tends to give you a good start and then fuck it up because they don't particularly care
t. venture bros

Jeremiah Jones
Jeremiah Jones

Shit was so cash, i cried
I only wish it ended like this
>Ladybug lands on Jack
>Suddendly jack sees flaming eyebrows on ladybug and shocked backs off
>Everything around him starts to looks like aku, focus on the three behind him thats looks like aku
>He looks down to his belly, he sees darkens spreading trough it
>He pulls out his sword and sepuku him selves
>All of this was just PTSD induced hallucination
>In the last frame we see samuraj pierced by the sword slowly dying

Now that would be the ending

Jace Phillips
Jace Phillips

What did I win, co?

Nathan Barnes
Nathan Barnes

i would have wanted that too, but gendy would be crucified if he did something like that

Henry Ward
Henry Ward

This is straight up Genndy's vision. Have you guys ever seen a Genndy cartoon? He's not exactly high storytelling. It did exactly what the show always said it would do.

Kevin Diaz
Kevin Diaz

This last episode still felt like it needed maybe 5-10 more minutes. It felt a bit comical with how fast that jump of logic to action went. Jack would of stayed and had an even more badass battle; Ashi just kind of decided, right when the only thing that was even handicapping Jack was gone. But hey, it was still pretty good.

Jonathan Robinson
Jonathan Robinson

Aku definitely did some taunting with Jack at his mercy.

Jaxon Johnson
Jaxon Johnson

That's the good part. Most of the whining is either waifufags who are pissed that Ashi died despite her being a shitty character or faggots who wanted Jack to not return to the past.
That being said, the ending did suck balls

Joshua Morgan
Joshua Morgan

My issue is Jack couldn't catch a break

Charles Johnson
Charles Johnson

He said bittersweet actually

Robert Baker
Robert Baker

The fuck do you mean? The guy's back in the past, Aku is gone, family is there that's a pretty good break. He may have lost Ashi but she was a shit character whose arc made no sense anyway.

Juan Cruz
Juan Cruz

Take your pick, Holla Forums

David Robinson
David Robinson

Pick of what? They don't exist.

Logan Sullivan
Logan Sullivan

He got back
Back to the past
Samurai Jack

Hudson Robinson
Hudson Robinson

It's not like Scotsman's ancestors were killed. Only those whose existence was directly dependant upon Aku's own are for sure removed from the timeline.

Michael Brown
Michael Brown

whose arc made no sense anyway.
What her whole arc was hope and moving on with trauma. I'm not sure how didn't make sense I just feel Jack should have just had his happiness considering all he's been through.

Joseph Garcia
Joseph Garcia

What her whole arc was hope and moving on with trauma.
That's really distilling it into a base statement buddy. It's as much about that as Batman is about proper parenting.

Kevin Butler
Kevin Butler

I think around the time Ashi was hanging with Jack was around the same time Holla Forums started to shit on it everywhere. Nevermind the fact that she wasn't Mary Sue material but hey lets just throw that argument in because Holla Forums's still traumatized over Korra's bullshit.

Alexander Jackson
Alexander Jackson

To be honest, 8/co/ bitches way less about Ashi than 4/co/mblr does.

William Russell
William Russell

Nevermind the fact that she wasn't Mary Sue material
But she was terribly written and took focus away from Jack.

Adrian Cruz
Adrian Cruz

While the claims are not unfounded
ashii was the only one to not be killed by jack
she had feelings and thought about things even though that has previously shown to not matter because jack killed that one robot who just wanted his dog back, but it matters now because she's human I guess
she interacts with nearly all of the people jack has helped to make jack not commit seppaku, ie she is given a greater purpose right off the bat for no reason other than she's gotta be there with jack
and it's hard for me to explain, but just the way Ashii interacts with all the noteworthy people jack helped in the first few seasons makes it seem like one of those marry sue things, but I can also see how people would be able to see past it since she is given proper reason for it.

Zachary Brown
Zachary Brown

i still find it weird that people are mad over that.
he did the thing. the thing he spent 4 seasons and a few episodes trying to do.

Matthew Cooper
Matthew Cooper

They didn't watch the show. All the experience they had with Jack until the new season was in Holla Forums threads thinking they could get by with knowledge picked up through osmosis.

Zachary Johnson
Zachary Johnson

I just wanted closure and a nice ending, I got precisely that.
I'm amazed the goddamn thing was able to be aired.

Noah Collins
Noah Collins

That ending was rushed as fuck. I wanted to see Jack and Ashi defeat Aku in the future world, then have her make a time portal and ask if he wants to go back still, to which he declines. Jack would get to stay with Ashi and all the other allies he made over the years that way. Seems like a pretty cliche ending, but so was the one we got.

Cooper Wood
Cooper Wood

That's actually the ending I wanted too.

Connor Hall
Connor Hall

It really would have been a problem if they continued living in the aku reality, because even though jack would have been a hero, Aku was holding a pretty big slice of world power, and killing a leader means you also have to fight a ton of followers for years after. It's better that he went to the past from a logical standpoint because otherwise the problems that were created by aku would have had to be solved through some other means that involves tons of work and power that probably would take an extremely long time.
Just as an example, aku took all of the water off a planet. In order to get water back on that planet you'd need to take water from another planet, and that just fucks with another planet's ecosystem. This was the best possible end because it's easier to start from the beginning rather than when everything is fucked.
And if you're telling me you could prevent the catastrophe that starts mad max / Hokuto No Ken and you wouldn't because of the friends you made in that reality you're thinking way too selfishly and not understanding the bigger picture of it all.

Gabriel Moore
Gabriel Moore

This, now we have the immortal warrior king.
The guardians vision was true all along

Andrew Long
Andrew Long

Should be, BORN TO LIVE

Levi Reed
Levi Reed

Is Jack a worse murderer than Aku? After all he just erased thousands of years of history and thousands of lives that now won't exist. Why does Jack's entitlement to a world he wanted take precedent over the natural progression of the entire universe?

Mason Stewart
Mason Stewart

it would have sucked to have a future where Jack is an immortal god king who has to travel the universe and right the wrongs that aku created

How can one user have such bad taste? That would have been awesome. They could even do another series just about that.

Brody Martinez
Brody Martinez

Why does Aku's entitlement to ensnaring the universe take precedent over the actual natural progression of the universe

Brandon Campbell
Brandon Campbell

How was Aku's ensnarement of the universe not natural? He was part of the universe. The past was the past, Jack sacrificed reality for his fantasy of his youth. Jack is a selfish piece of shit who killed all his real friends.

Logan Wright
Logan Wright

WHERE FLUNG HIM INTO THE FUTURE WHERE MY EVIL IS LAW
WHERE MY EVIL IS LAW
Countless untouched unmolested indigenous peoples, and cultures, an entire buddist Order achieving Nirvana and higher levels of enlightenment, revealed ancient artifacts, medium-tier use of magic across the universe and individuals, independent states living in relative safety due to Aku only showing up to wreck someone who doesn't pay tribute, and he ends up bored and lethargic anyway so they all get uppity anyhow
Space Travel
Advanced Technology
Strong having power over the weak, being adherant to nature, everyone who gets steamrolled never having suffiencient defenses of their own, Slave mentality everywhere
A.I, Robots, human/robot cultures, mixed cultures and Aku not really going that far out of his comfort zone anyway

Now technically, the planet was getting fucked by the Industrialization, but at the end of the day, it's not like a single earth will last generation after generation, and a good chunk of people who jacktended to save were cultures villages and cities full of crap that would have not contributed anyhow.

Aku's rule was that he permitted people to live as long as his ever-changing values allowed it, and punished those who went against his law, or tried to bargain with him under the impression they'd get anything out of it thinming he#d be reasonable, Aku never cucks out of getting what he wants, and people dumb enough to try always get fucked in the end, infact, you'd think generation after generation people might have just had contigency plans for just packing up and leaving if Aku visited, which they didn't.

The initial startup in Jack's time was the fact that Aku realized Humans were full-of shit and needed a good packing to show who's boss, so he set about wrecking everyone's shit personally, but, realizing the effort that went into wrecking cultures globally and seeking out every settlement there is would have worked him bone dry, so he consolidated his efforts to building the forces and allies necessary to furthering his influence and rule, which worked wonders from his mining operations that were already a step above what was available at the time.

From that single mine, he conquered the entire planet, and worked his way up the galactic ladder, only ever being stopped by what amounted to an act of god. One thing to note the places he wrecked in the age of his rule, the populations for Democracy/Utopian/lazy ages of weakness, not unlike our own, what amounted to Military prowess was always lackluster, not only an attempt at futility, but an insult to Aku as a fission-spawn from what was essentially a Non-sapient Elder Evil/Great Old One the Deities messed with and nearly got killed for, if only due to lack of imagination/co-ordination on it's part.

Yes, Aku is Evil, yes, he is oppressive, selfish and self-serving, yes, he'll kill you in a heartbeat if you so much as present weakness before him, but that's the thing, he's a fucking incarnation of nature trivalized by contact with lesser being through consumption of prehistoric matter and a magical poison which made him into a silly corny, but ever-so dangerous manifestation of an eastern perspective of evil.

Point is, if you kept your head down, had a decent military and actually had the skills to both keep Aku appeased and act in preservation you were good to go in Aku's World, if you were a fucking weakling, you'd perish, and that, like nature is uncaring and fair.

Jack, instead of realizing through his efforts he cannot save the past should have realized the future had a place for him and fought for it, and instead, once again, he low WISdomed it, and fucked himself, for who in the past would know his deeds? The gods don't even give arats ass about his world, they left it long ago, it's basically a Non-deity setting like in D&D worlds, Gods only play with S&S planes of existence.

Jason Cook
Jason Cook

How is Jack's changing of history not part of reality? He's a part of the universe as much as Aku.

Cooper Gonzalez
Cooper Gonzalez

griffith did nothing wrong posters have taken root
lel
implying I'm going to read a griffith poster's bullshit
this isn't like where /pol/ gives facts as to how hitler wasn't killing jews, he was concentrating them and trying to get them out of germany because they kept trying to persecute the german peoples along with the rest of the world, which got assblasted at germany for defending itself
This is you saying a guy who went out of his way to torture civilizations and murder planets full of people, as well as letting criminals rule the worlds, is not as bad as a guy who was preventing all those deaths and possibly more by erasing that portion of history and then slaying Aku. All the progress that was achieved was probably done to get away from aku, which would make them stronger probably as a civilization, but that doesn't make the means justified.

Asher Robinson
Asher Robinson

Press F to pay respects

Josiah Robinson
Josiah Robinson

Just finished it.
I found it completely predictable.
I'm simply glad that it has an ending.
Haven't felt this way since Inuyasha: The Final Act.

I look forward to the season premier of Twin Peaks later today.
Mainly because I'm sure I will hate it for a number of reasons.
Like if say David Duchovny in drag is not played as a joke the same way it was in the early 90s than I am not going to give it another moment of my time.

Aiden Kelly
Aiden Kelly

So why should I care about a time paradox in a fantasy and sci-fi setting? Never cared about it as a kid and never did now.

Kayden Cooper
Kayden Cooper

t. Shounen Jump reader

Hudson Ramirez
Hudson Ramirez

Griffith poster

Nolan Rogers
Nolan Rogers

Starts off strong with PTSD Mad-Max Jack.
Throws away the intense feeling of the first few episodes for Ashi's bullshit.
The show should have been nine episodes of grimdark, followed by an intense fight with Aku, and finishing with a happy ending.

Dylan Harris
Dylan Harris

This, the first three episodes were the best part of the season, even if Jack shouldn't have had any problems with killing other people, as a child he saw his father kill other people, and he never really had any problems with killing animals or those seven assassins. Yeah the flashback with the father was from the new season, but Samurais in feudal Japan were hardcore, who could without any reason kill any of their peasants. He could even order his wife to kill herself and her children if she dishonored him.

Daniel Price
Daniel Price

The 1st episodes were absolute god tier they were the way you do a dark mature reboot

then it just fell apart it was not bad parsay but you saw some issues

Joshua Clark
Joshua Clark

Noone of you fuckers talk about that in the last scene he's memories probably got wiped just like Ashi!

Ryder Torres
Ryder Torres

It needed 4 more episodes

Isaiah Richardson
Isaiah Richardson

roll credits just before Ashi frowns and falls over

There, fixed the ending for you. Just throw it into movie maker or what have you and edit it yourself.

Jordan Stewart
Jordan Stewart

I wish they didn't do the "You have all of Aku's powers" thing and that there really was no way to get back back to the past and Jack would have to move on from his failure like a fucking adult.

Nicholas Watson
Nicholas Watson

It needed to not have the fucking filler. All Jack's friends swooping in to help at the end would have had much more impact if they didn't spend an episode showing all of them so Ashi's character would develop.

Honestly, I suspect that originally Jack was going to remain haggard and grizzled for the whole season but CN was like NOPE, he needs to look like how the fans remember him!

Robert Miller
Robert Miller

But doesn't him letting the ladybug land on him show he remembers her and is getting over her?

Juan Wright
Juan Wright

She never told him about her appreciation of ladybugs. In fact, her seeing him treat the ladybug gently is what really hits home for her and sends her on her character arc. Jack having respect for nature is just part of his personality, the synchronicity with the ladybug is just a bit for the viewers.

Christian Gomez
Christian Gomez

That's the moment when he "goes blank"!
As the user says above he never know that Ashi changed because of the ladybug. The whole scene is a trick to bambooze the audience.

Jack smiles because he can't remember shit that happened in the future…

Jaxon Ross
Jaxon Ross

All of them

Chase Reed
Chase Reed

How come Jack went blank after Ashi disappeared rather than at the same time or before?

Gabriel Clark
Gabriel Clark

Him living so long and not aging in the future was due to him having been predetermined to return to the past so that he's the same when he returns. He likely doesn't have that crutch anymore and live out his life in his own time.

The journey itself was an allegory to his past world. He sacrificed a different future to return to the past. For better or for worse, that was the choice he made.

Ryan Campbell
Ryan Campbell

The THICCness must live!

Grayson Martin
Grayson Martin

Did anyone else suddenly feel as if all the day's, or week's, tiredness came crashing down on them once the episode ended?

Cameron Martin
Cameron Martin

Yep, and it hasn't gone away since last night.

Nathan Martinez
Nathan Martinez

From Baldwin's twitter
twitter.com/GregBaldwinIroh/status/866384652453371904
archive.fo/HH5jr

Camden Jones
Camden Jones

Ive been looking forward to every sunday (i watched it on sundays just to end my weekends with something good) and now…. well…. i dont realy know what to watch now. I've binge watched the venture bros, megas xlr, and all my other favorite toons but I couldnt stand to watch any of them a 7th or 9th time.

i feel oddly empty

Jonathan Murphy
Jonathan Murphy

50 years of making friends and experiences
All completely removed from existence

I loved the season at the start because it was showing how human jack was with losing his mind, but now it's like he's a robot at the end. How is he able to walk away from his entire adult lifetime? Everything he ever did doesn't exist now. What was it all for? The saving of others in a timeline where they wouldn't exist. Countless times he could have went back to the past, but instead he decided to free and save those in the future instead of himself. Those fairies, those long neck people, everything was for nothing. He could have left them to suffer as he goes into the time portal and nothing of difference would have changed because they all wouldn't exist in the end. Everything is hollow now.

Ethan Cruz
Ethan Cruz

Aku was killing them all with his arrow/spike rain anyway, did you miss that? The only ones surviving were scotsman daughters and a few spartans
If jack had stayed in the future he would have been surrouded by corpses of his friends

David Bennett
David Bennett

This, so many anons are forgetting this

Ayden Evans
Ayden Evans

He should just stayed cause while he lost lot in the past he gained so much more in the future.

Kevin Cruz
Kevin Cruz

Jack didn't choose to go back to the past though. Ashi took him back and didn't stop to ask. Someone from that future whose life wouldn't exist made the choice that it was better for Jack to create a future free of Aku.

Brody Diaz
Brody Diaz

This is exactly what I'm feeling right now. There's really nothing else to look forward to. I may watch Zim if it follows the original scripted finale the creator had in mind and maybe the Hey Arnold movie if its actually well written and avoids any Current Year shenanigans. After that, I guess only thing I can look forward to is Gumball.

I think I like this cheeky cunt now. He looks older than I expected though.

Blake Morales
Blake Morales

Not to mention if everything was just gonna be erased by a paradox anyway, why did he even bother saving people when he was so close to a portal if the shit that was happening was just gonna be undone once he entered a portal? Like he did with those monks.

Liam Young
Liam Young

Because he was a retarded nip from the past that couldn't comprehend time paradoxes?

Justin Watson
Justin Watson

Have you ever watched the series "Visionaries: Knights of the Magical Light"? Probably one of the better animated comedies based on a toyline.

Ethan Collins
Ethan Collins

first 3 episodes were perfect
FUCKING ASHI
ASHI RUNED EVERYTHING

FUCK

John Davis
John Davis

The ladybug was Japanese symbolism.

Jayden Harris
Jayden Harris

For better or for worse, that was the choice he made.
Actually, Ashi made that choice for him.

Daniel Martin
Daniel Martin

Jack sits under the tree
Thingken of asshi and all the future friends he lost
E. Honda shows back up
Cut to black
There, I fixed the ending with minimal structure changes

Lincoln Cooper
Lincoln Cooper

It'd be par for the course for Tartakovsky, but I need some evidence (an article, preferably archived) of ladybugs representing love messages in actual Japanese symbolism before I believe this fortune cookie nonsense. For what it's worth, though, I did see some other forms of ladybug symbolism in this article:

archive.fo/bRYeg

If a ladybug lands on you, be careful not to brush it off. Stay very still and count the spots. The number of spots will reveal the number of months you will enjoy good luck (i.e. what Jack did in XCV)
Common folk belief tells that if a ladybug/ladybird crawls over an unwed woman’s hand, she will be married within a year.
Killing a ladybug is considered extremely bad luck
So in essence, the High Priestess' plan was fucked from the start.

Joseph Ortiz
Joseph Ortiz

What was it for? It was for him. Despite all his training, he wasn't the true warrior of righteousness when he first faced Aku, and that is why he was unable to succeed. His father, despite being righteous enough to have the sword forged from his soul, only exemplified the righteous warrior enough to be able to bind Aku, but not destroy him. It took Jack over fifty years of war against Aku, and the self reflection during that time, to become the man the world needed him to be, the man who could end Aku permanently.

Jose Allen
Jose Allen

Nah, Aku just got the drop on Jack the first time with the time portal.

Henry Miller
Henry Miller

In terms of story and symbolism, dubsman.

Christian Jenkins
Christian Jenkins

Has someone made a background out of that last image of Jack standing by the cherry tree? Or does someone at least have that image? I forgot to save it.

Jayden Butler
Jayden Butler

see

Andrew Gonzalez
Andrew Gonzalez

Updated in light of the final episode

Luis Brooks
Luis Brooks

Not making it fade into "Don't forget you're here forever

Dominic Martin
Dominic Martin

WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS

Juan Martinez
Juan Martinez

do it

Christian Wood
Christian Wood

Forget Her

Wyatt Smith
Wyatt Smith

I was thinking this, but I hope he at least kept the memories. ;_;

Parker Robinson
Parker Robinson

not knowing if he didn't save people, he couldn't resist from being corrupted
you stupid fuck, saving people gives him extra POWER to resist being corrupted by aku

Lucas Martinez
Lucas Martinez

The one thing we can be pretty sure of is that fucking with time travel does not create new, separate timelines. If that were the case, Ashi would have been fine (and the future would still be fucked since they didn't kill Aku there).

I took it as Jack returns some time after he gets flung into the duture. This time period in the past is where the future timeline exists. Once Jack gets sent back to the past and kills Aku, a new future is created and Ashi dissapears because she didn't exist prior to Jack being sent back and has nothing to keep her bound to the new timeline once Aku is gone. The future that Jack was sent to still existed for a small period of time until Jack returned.

Aku or someone else could keep The Jack returns timeline from occuring by changing the past(future) before Aku is killed when Jack returns.

Asher Ross
Asher Ross

10/10

Connor Gomez
Connor Gomez

/reddit/index.html

William Turner
William Turner

Fuck.

Chase Hill
Chase Hill

Haven't felt this way since Inuyasha: The Final Act
Inuyasha

Fucking kill yourself

Henry Scott
Henry Scott

Going to take some photoshop time since I can't find a template for the "Don't Forget You're Here Forever" that isn't Burns putting it up. Any idea what font that is? You get me a font or better yet a template and I can take it from there.

You're right that it would be even more of a gut punch.

Ian Carter
Ian Carter

How would this have been instead of what we got?

Aaron Green
Aaron Green

You do it in the same font as the "do it for her"
Because the rest of the text is just hiding underneath the pictures that disappear
Like pottery

Lucas Torres
Lucas Torres

No fucking shit, Sherlock. You see the part where I asked what font that is? I don't have some magical ability to look at a font and go "aha that is Atherton MS Bold", and shit needs to match or it will look like ass.

Oliver Ross
Oliver Ross

Posting this everywhere you post yours.

Brody Thompson
Brody Thompson

Wow that's fucking gay.
It's amazing that as soon as Ashi and Jack were a couple, suddenly nobody cared about anything else other than that specific plot point.

Nobody cared Ashi was a shit character, nobody cared Jack needed to get back to the past, waifufags just wanted to ship them forever. Ashi is dead, more dead than anyone since Jack destroyed the thing that made her exist. Deal with it.

Isaiah Campbell
Isaiah Campbell

People forgetting that love from the people he saved literally let Jack expel Aku's infection from his body when they whined about "muh power of luv!" in the last episode was really annoying.

Easton Diaz
Easton Diaz

But it doesn't open time portals

Hudson Garcia
Hudson Garcia

But Aku does

Jaxon Miller
Jaxon Miller

Then why hasn't he done it at any point prior
This just makes my earlier point of "why didn't Aku just make another time portal and fling Jack into the future again" all the more valid. Since we now know he could do that at any point.

Nicholas Powell
Nicholas Powell

This makes for a very pretty picture to end it on.

Depends on how you want to approach time paradoxes.

If Jack didn't go through everything that he did in the future, that means he also couldn't have come back and kill Aku, and time would do a weird switcheroo where:
1. Aku is alive and sends Jack to the future
2. Jack comes back to kill Aku
3. with Aku dead, the future doesn't happen
4. since Jack never went to the future he also didn't come out of it, thus Aku is still alive and sends Jack to the future
5. repeat forever

Brayden Flores
Brayden Flores

Because it didn't work the first time. Also it's kind of implied he did it on other occasions, like with the Spartans. Maybe in those thousands of years he learned that it wasn't a winning strategy.

Ethan Morgan
Ethan Morgan

Because it didn't work the first time
I mean it did. He did take over the world and spread his influence further than ever dreamed, buddy.
Also it's kind of implied he did it on other occasions
Very barely. But it's been shown now that not only was it always an option, but it also would have worked out far better than being lethargic did.

Jace Rivera
Jace Rivera

Maybe Jack just isn't going to fall for the same trick twice.

Kevin Campbell
Kevin Campbell

Ok then "fool me once shame on you; fool me twice shame on me." Jack trounces Aku in a fight and Aku knows this so maybe he expects Jack would evade the same trick.

Grayson Johnson
Grayson Johnson

I'd expect the shape-shifting master of darkness would be able to trick the guy. It's just a gaping hole in the plot that has come up because Genndy shat the bed in the last 3 episodes.

Mason Nelson
Mason Nelson

Rise daughters as super assassins trained for one purpose and serve one master
Never tell them that they might have superpowers since their father was Aku
Lame

Tyler Thompson
Tyler Thompson

worship Aku
be intelligent
I don't think so, Tim.

Samuel Collins
Samuel Collins

Brainwash daughters for decades to live for the sole purpose of serving Aku
Brainwashing undone by a ladybug
Season 5 was okay but it was far from the saviour of animation

Levi Roberts
Levi Roberts

People all around the world gathering for Jack weeding
Niggers, arabs, even Robin Hood despite the fact that the technology didnt really allow to sail that far at that time

Genndy confirmed for globalist shill

Jaxson Ward
Jaxson Ward

/cuckchan/index.html

Carter Ross
Carter Ross

Wait just a minute, how the fuck did Ashi know when to open the time portal, espically to the exact second after Jack had just left?

Jayden Mitchell
Jayden Mitchell

Brainwashing is not hard to undone if you remove source of brainwashing. People remain brainwashed because they remain in echo chambers.

Wyatt Hall
Wyatt Hall

Maybe it was more that Jack knew when to jump out and told her. Also, it's entirely possible they went to some other time first just to get out of there and then figured out exactly where and when to go.

Lucas Cruz
Lucas Cruz

newfags don't remember all the old SJ characters

Gavin Clark
Gavin Clark

great warriors always make great rulers

Mason Barnes
Mason Barnes

implying George Rapey Rapey Martin knows anything about how people really act

Carter Rodriguez
Carter Rodriguez

implying he's wrong in the case of what Baratheon was

Andrew Garcia
Andrew Garcia

This image won me $100.

I bet someone that the show would end JUST like TTGL. "NO that's anime and this isnt."

"Trigger/Gainax takes heavily from western tropes, not the other way around. Either the defeat of Aku will kill her via time shenanigans or half of her will no longer be there and she can no longer be viable, but will somehow fight it long enough to give jack some happiness, the series is following the same exact formula TTGL used in its final episodes so far"

"No, that's anime, this is a cartoon, won't happen."

$100 richer now.

Tyler Myers
Tyler Myers

trolololol

Asher Perry
Asher Perry

10/10

Isaiah Rodriguez
Isaiah Rodriguez

Jack being a super warrior hero king wouldn't make him a good leader, but the fact that he was a temper-headed individual for most of his entire life and trained over the years with so many would make him at least have a strong ground work to understanding how to be an emperor. Seeing Aku being a shitty leader in general would probably lead him to make decisions like not going out and conquering lands willy nilly. You know that saying; if you bear god as a child and show it compassion then it will be a careless god when it grows, but if you show god hardship then it will be compassionate instead. Jack understands what not to do as a ruler, and in the back of his mind he would probably always hold onto the idea of "I never want to be like Aku, so I will never do these things."

Asher Ross
Asher Ross

Can you do us all a really important favor?

Kill yourself.

Zachary Collins
Zachary Collins

This, faggots need to stop posting their fanfictions like it isn't the cringiest goddamn shit on the planet.

Bentley Lewis
Bentley Lewis

game of penises

Eli Turner
Eli Turner

Filthy summer child

Jordan Hernandez
Jordan Hernandez

Prince
Not inviting current allies.
Especially post war celebrations against an enemy.
Bait?

Carson Richardson
Carson Richardson

holy crap

Connor Jenkins
Connor Jenkins

1. We have no idea whate exact time period it is.
2. Magellan was crossing the globe on a regular basis by the early 1500's.
3. Niggers from asia got to australia and hawaii in shitty canoes.

Jordan Richardson
Jordan Richardson

shit I meant for

Henry Evans
Henry Evans

I liked the end
Would have likes it more if she had immediately disappeared after aku's defeat
But then again I like jacks silly wedding outfit

Charles Bennett
Charles Bennett

Does anyone have the megalinks for all the episodes?

Alexander Brooks
Alexander Brooks

Here you go user.

Anthony James
Anthony James

Where's the episode guide?

Adrian Bennett
Adrian Bennett

This one?

Asher Martin
Asher Martin

Ah, yes. A thousand thanks, user.

Now… now what?

Colton Myers
Colton Myers

This needs a further edit with her disappearing.

Landon Rivera
Landon Rivera

4U

Matthew Diaz
Matthew Diaz

plot magic.

Also could be because she was essentially in control of aku's powers, and knew exactly when aku sent jack to the future.

After all, how did she know how to use the time portal spell?

Adam Foster
Adam Foster

loss.png

Jacob Anderson
Jacob Anderson

It should have been 2 parts. Part 1 should have ended with them killing Aku in the future and then traveling back in time to kill him in the past.
This was ridiculously rushed, like anyone with sense knew it would be.

and a much-needed heartfelt final conversation with the Scotsman and others, where Jack reminds them they may not exist if he goes back in time

Benjamin Ramirez
Benjamin Ramirez

also really minor nitpick here, but if they were going to drag out wedding bit just to make Ashi disappear sadder, they should have shown more cameos. what about the kids that jack used to know, wouldn't they now be grown up? the africans, egyptians etc they should have been there.

Michael Jones
Michael Jones

Some of the problems I saw with the season weren't just limited to the final episode or Ashi, and were even in the much-vaunted first 3 episodes.
Suicide/Rage Jack personality
He's inconsistently portrayed. We first see him telling Jack to kill himself and that he's going to fail, later he shows up to taunt wounded Jack and relish in killing someone, still later to say to ditch Ashi, and then at the tea scene he's telling Jack that he kept them alive. Even if we just assume that he's Jack's inner doubts and evil side all in one, there's no indication whatsoever of him keeping them alive because Jack never did what he suggested. On a similar note, why have the white puff personality appear for a fraction of one episode only?
The Omen/Honda/Green Ghost
This initially was really badass in its ominous nature and seemingly being another hallucination or personality in Jack's head. Turning it into just an actual ghost chasing Jack to tell him to suduko really cheapened it, especially when the initial times we saw him seemed to be as a Bushido spirit keeping Jack on the path of the righteous warrior.
Basic errors
There were too many of these even in the first three episodes, from seeing 8 daughters of Aku at once in the tomb scene to Jack's wounds turning on and off shot to shot.
Ashi fighting the army
This would have been better as her fighting an elite assassin or two with her mother being the finale, not going Powerpuff Girl on thousands of guys. Or, just have a longer, tougher fight against her mother.
Ashi meeting all of Jack's allies
She already was convinced about Jack being right, this would have been a fine place to free up some time in the season. ESPECIALLY the rave.
(cont)

Carson Thomas
Carson Thomas

As to episode 10 itself, the biggest problem was just:
Ep10 pacing
Even if they didn't realize the series' time crunch until this episode, it could have been fixed with a few easy steps:
1) delete wedding, have Ashi fade immediately after Aku's death. Would have saved a bunch of time.
2) delete initial gathering in front of TVs; introduce episode with old intro before cutting to Aku's NOOOOT, then show everyone at their TVs responding to it–the joke wouldn't have been as great and people tuning in a few minutes late would have been screwed, but it would have saved a bunch of time here as well.
3) instead of it seeing that Jack telling Ashi he loved her was all that was needed to throw off Aku's control, use the extra time saved from the above two suggested cuts to have a scene similar to the Aku Infection episode. Where, while inside the Ashiblob, Jack connects with her mentally and helps her cut away at Aku's darkness with the light of love. Boom, it doesn't feel rushed or cheap anymore.
4) Have the Scotsman be the one to point out that if Ashi has Aku's powers that they should time portal back to the past immediately, maybe saying that they'd stall Aku for the moment they'd need to do it–giving a more obvious permission from Jack's friends to undo the future, giving the audience a moment to digest it, and letting Jack have at least a very brief goodbye. Still a deus ex Ashi, but not a 30-second complete asspull solution–that moment for myself and many others caused a lot of mental whiplash at how suddenly it went from Jack fighting Aku-controlled Ashi, to Jack going back to the past with an Ashi that had Aku's powers.

I still enjoyed the season overall and it had a lot of great moments, but the whole thing really could have used a bit more polish, and more importantly a couple more rewrites to iron things out.

Owen Morales
Owen Morales

Oh, and the tea scene with Suicide/Rage Jack? That ought to have been an actual fight, not blasting him away with glowing eyes. Cutting the army fight would have given plenty of time for that.

Nolan Rivera
Nolan Rivera

just as greg is getting into his groove as aku, show ends

ouch

Mason Cook
Mason Cook

On a similar note, why have the white puff personality appear for a fraction of one episode only?
maybe they realized how stupid and tumblr-y that character was and took it out

Matthew Powell
Matthew Powell

Valid point. Would have been better to never include it in the first place (since I'm just listing things I saw as weak about the season overall).

A good rewrite could have fixed the pacing and some of the inconsistencies, but from what I've read they were in a hurry to change it from a movie script into a 10-episode season, and the time for a thorough edit wasn't there.

Adrian Lewis
Adrian Lewis

You're pretty spot on.
Though I don't get what your problem is with the green samurai specter thing.
It's basically what you said. It seems like extreme nitpicking, extremely pedantic wording making two similar scenarios sound different

Zachary Sanders
Zachary Sanders

So with The Aku Infection being brought up a few times in discussion I went and rewatched it, and I noticed something: youtube.com/watch?v=9JdWgYHrwjM

All the groups of allies mentioned as sending their blessing, each blessing a stone to fortify this land? Those are the groups that show up in the final fight against Aku. Them, plus the archers. I don't know if it has any significance but I thought it was interesting.

Jose Adams
Jose Adams

Suicide/Rage Jack personality
I am pretty sure there was more than 2 different personalities, excluding white puff.
You know, the whole point of defeating Rage Jack is not to fight him.

Lucas Morgan
Lucas Morgan

I'm pretty sure it was only there because it suited his current trippy environment.

Ryder Walker
Ryder Walker

That's not that bad. I apprechiate the user who wrote this, it's a pretty neato alternative, happy ending.

Dylan Taylor
Dylan Taylor

It is exactly that bad. Kill yourself.

William Price
William Price

i'd would, but only if you'd ever cease to be such an autistic man-child who gets so worked up, to a point of telling people to kill them selves over a dissagreement about a cartoon, but we all know that won't happen so i'll live happily instead.
go back to angry-posting on tumblr you virgin.

Blake Hill
Blake Hill

Go back to Reddit and take your tainted dubs with you.

Chase King
Chase King

Now I mean it: Kill yourself

Noah Baker
Noah Baker

FLCL 2

William Bennett
William Bennett

He's inconsistently portrayed.
Ghostjack is the id, the dark side, the death drive. He's Tyler Durden. This is an extremely well-established archetype. Fitting, given the protagonist is a man whose real name we don't know but has been assumed to be named Jack.

Turning it into just an actual ghost chasing Jack to tell him to suduko really cheapened it, especially when the initial times we saw him seemed to be as a Bushido spirit keeping Jack on the path of the righteous warrior.
It didn't look like that at all. He didn't drive Jack to be a better warrior; he scared Jack shitless.

There were too many of these even in the first three episodes, from seeing 8 daughters of Aku at once in the tomb scene to Jack's wounds turning on and off shot to shot.
I agree but I can look past this.

This would have been better as her fighting an elite assassin or two with her mother being the finale, not going Powerpuff Girl on thousands of guys. Or, just have a longer, tougher fight against her mother.
I disagree. It was better to fake us out by making us think it was some ridiculous gurrl power bullshit only to realize it was totally justified by having Aku's strength. Honestly her mother should have known better than to fight her, that's a really one-sided match.

She already was convinced about Jack being right, this would have been a fine place to free up some time in the season. ESPECIALLY the rave.
This I agree with and I'll add that if they waited until the Cavalry moment to reveal them the impact would have been 10x stronger.

This post is on point. The whole "Ashi can take them back just like that" was approaching Jotaro having The World levels of asspull.

Andrew Hall
Andrew Hall

Honestly her mother should have known better than to fight her, that's a really one-sided match.
Not really, mom had Aku's magical sperm powering her too.

Lincoln Lewis
Lincoln Lewis

rickenbacker

Owen Rogers
Owen Rogers

Thank you user, I will treasure it always.

Jacob Perry
Jacob Perry

picture is kid clearly getting mad because he's losing at chess

I have always hated this macro so much

Nicholas Walker
Nicholas Walker

Someone has to update this video.
I don't know how to edit videos

Juan Anderson
Juan Anderson

4. since Jack never went to the future he also didn't come out of it, thus Aku is still alive and sends Jack to the future

But Jack returns after aku sends him to the future, just the aku in that future is dead.

It goes like this:
Original Timeline: Aku sends Jack into the future -> Jack finds himself in the future where Aku's evil is law -> Aku destroys all time portals -> Jack finds Ashi who sends him back in time
New Timeline(s): Aku sends Jack into the future -> Jack returns to the past and slays Aku -> Jack finds himself in a future with no Aku -> Jack grows beard and gets cape and crown -> Jack starts a hobby of raising ladybugs -> Jack must abandon his ladybugs and go through the nondestroyed Guardian's Portal to fulfill his destiny and slay Aku

Josiah Morgan
Josiah Morgan

I like it.

Juan Hughes
Juan Hughes

That's a very weak way to end the story and it cheapens Jack's story and struggle.
No hero of legend, myth or religion escapes unscathed when fighting pure evil. In the end he is victorious, but there's always a steep price to pay and it leaves the hero scarred.
Genndy is just following a millennia old archetype.

Zachary Sanchez
Zachary Sanchez

Best case scenario the ending is really just a plot hole and throw away of time travel work. At worst case scenario Aku is stuck in a time paradox in which he is tormented by Jack in the future, who comes back to kill him in the past just before his past self sends another jack to torment him 50 years earlier

Michael Roberts
Michael Roberts

The ending and overall quality of season 5 could have been improved by having Ashi either staying as a villain, dead, or going neutral but not adventure around with Jack at the end of episode 3.

Jace Howard
Jace Howard

last 2 minutes

Logan Ortiz
Logan Ortiz

My disappointments

We will never find out Jack's real name. I was achingly curious to see if we would hear it in the past.
We aren't clear on if Jack is still immortal or not.
We didn't get a longer epilogue showing more of Jack in the past and then a sneak peek of the new Aku-less future.
They introduced old Scotsman early in, killed him to make him a cool ghost that wants to find jack, then proceeds to have him sit on his ass until the final battle. They made it seem like he'd have a bigger role in the story but now I feel like the story would have been exactly the same if they hadn't killed his wheelchair bound ass.

I'm fine with the tonal whiplash of the huge fight and then the sudden trip to the past, honestly it was kind of a neat surprise. I just wanted a bit more of Jack's reaction to finally achieving his goal out of fucking nowhere and being at peace. If I were him I'd have been in fucking tears in that portal.

Though really I'm glad it's over. I'm satisfied with this ending and happy to have the closure it brings.

Chase Foster
Chase Foster

But they shitted the bed long before that, user.

Jack Rivera
Jack Rivera

I held judgement until they were done. It was pretty bad, to be honest. Cliches everywhere. Tartakovsky can't write a compelling and mature love story. It should have stayed a kid's show with its attending editorial limits, it seems he's better suited to that medium. The strongest part of Samurai Jack since the start were the cool fight animations, the plot and characterization was always kind of weak and it was only mangled worse now, and we got almost no interesting action scenes in the Season (barring the first few episodes which were unsurprisingly one of the ones I enjoyed best).

Grayson Walker
Grayson Walker

While defending Aku isn't the way to go, I'll leave you with a quote from the Silmarillion:

"…judging that if Finwë had endured his loss and had been content with the fathering of his mighty son, the courses of Fëanor would have been otherwise, and great evil might have been prevented;… But the children of Indis were great and glorious, and their children also; and if they had not lived the history of the Eldar would have been diminished"
And also relevant
"But at the last word of Fëanor: that at the least the Noldor should do deeds that live in song for ever, he raised his head, as one that hears a voice far off, and he said 'So shall it be! Dear-bought those songs shall be accounted, and yet shall be well-bought. For the price could be no other. Thus even as Eru spoke to us shall beauty not before conceived be brought in Eä, and evil yet be good to have been.'"

So to tl;dr this, the endgame doesn't necessarily matter, be it good or bad. What matters is the journey itself, each action you take along that journey, and the higher moral you follow in those actions. You judge good and high beauty by each action taken, not the end result. Each battle has it's own glory and cause to be, and to erase any piece of it is to make the whole lesser.

Connor Johnson
Connor Johnson

anything that makes Zone butthurt is fine by me

David Morales
David Morales

Shoulda been 13 episodes, one to address more of the shit like the implied death of the guardian, what happened with the dogs, an actual reunion with the Scotsman, etc, another to show what it was like for Jack in his present and a "good" future epilogue.

Juan Campbell
Juan Campbell

That's cool and all but it's not easy to undo major global fuck ups after you kill a world leader, political or physical. It's a lot easier to kill him before he is well known.

Aaron Lewis
Aaron Lewis

I would like to see Genndy announcing that he would make "Extended cuts" for each of the episodes in order to address some issues in the original run.

Evan Ortiz
Evan Ortiz

Ashi ~ Daughter of Aku

Jaxson Hughes
Jaxson Hughes

Fuck off zone

Tyler Gonzalez
Tyler Gonzalez

The fuck is that horrendous background noise?

Henry Stewart
Henry Stewart

Jack needed a choice between a time portal or killing Aku in the present to stop him from killing all of his friends right then. This needed to be an either or type deal. Jack needed to choose the connections he made during his travels instead of resetting everything. Who knows maybe there would have been a different evil demon if Aku was taken down. Maybe Aku killed hundreds of pretenders during the time between the past and the future and Jack never knew about it.

Brayden Sullivan
Brayden Sullivan

I have a feeling that final scene was meant to symbolize general loneliness, not just regarding what's her name

Blake Williams
Blake Williams

I would never be able to get off to this knowing it's jack, it's like seeing your best friend.

Noah Miller
Noah Miller

horrendous

Nigga, what? You have both shit memory and shit ears, or what?

Kayden Carter
Kayden Carter

The problem could be the R, since the Arial R is shorter, try with the Helvetica family

Evan Evans
Evan Evans

Ashi fucked up and deposited them into an alternate timeline

Julian Hughes
Julian Hughes

Then how did destroying Aku make her–oh never mind.

Nicholas Peterson
Nicholas Peterson

Because Ashi fucked up user.

Nathan Bennett
Nathan Bennett

lol why is this the only memorable music in the whole season

Henry Flores
Henry Flores

Yeah, no, Jack is too pure for that degeneracy.

Evan Cox
Evan Cox

He created a time boom when he went back in time.

Grayson Thomas
Grayson Thomas

Ashi did just fine. Aku sent Jack into an alternate timeline future

Elijah Evans
Elijah Evans

thanks /arda/ that was actually pretty cool

Jayden Morgan
Jayden Morgan

It sounds like a fucking rumbling drone.
The track is good, so I think it must be my end that's fucking up.

Xavier Torres
Xavier Torres

Here is my ending:
aku is distracted fighting jack's friends
jack evades Ashi and grabs the sword
aku notices this and tries to punch jack
jack evades, aku hits wall which causes rubble to fall on evil Ashi, trapping her
jack jumps at aku, slices him up a bit
Aku is weakened, tries to time portal jack again
jacks blocks, absorbs the screech into his sword
sword turns glowing white
aku tries to say "foolish samurai, if you kill me with that, nothing you have done here will have ever happened!"
jack finishes off aku with the sword anyways
suddenly it starts rewinding through every episode of samurai jack
cut back to right after (this is important) aku portals jack into the future in episode one
aku starts pulsating like the time portal
"no, w-what's happening? How could the samurai have-"
the pulsating grows faster and faster, beams of light start coming out of his skin
the light consumes him, you hear a final scream
the light stops, all that's left is a flaming arrow, which drops to the ground
the flame goes out
cut back to present
everyone is suprised and gathers around jack
jack notices something
people begin fading away
the scenery begins changing
jack says "what's happening?" and runs to Ashi
she morphs back into regular form in jack's arms
she says "I-I don't know" and fades away
it stops, jack is standing in front of an ancient statue of a samurai in modern day Japan
he drops to his knees and lets out a single tear
a bystander asks him "what's wrong, sir?"
he says "n-nothing"
then he looks at the statue
a placard in front of it reads "this statue is supposed to represent the samurai from the ancient myth of Aku, who mysteriously disappeared after defeating the monster"
cut to a wide shot of the entire statue
begins showing a backwards time lapse through all the eras until it show's jacks parents crying while the statue is being constructed
jack in the future travels the world searching for something, sees subtle impacts of his "myth" retold through different cultures
he looks defeated, sits down on a bench somewhere, watches a little boy play with a figure that looks similar to him and aku
he looks around him
in a crowd, he spots a woman who looks exactly like Ashi
his face brightens up
he stands up from the bench and walks out of frame
cut to credits

Bentley Murphy
Bentley Murphy

It should have been about the scotsman's daughters.

Kayden Sullivan
Kayden Sullivan

repetitive scene with no real variety
no sign of Ashi's extra thicc ass
awful background noise
1/10 Dongs

Leo Murphy
Leo Murphy

girl turns out to be cricket girl grown up

William Robinson
William Robinson

cricket girl
no, she would have to be her descendant

Liam King
Liam King

Time paradoxes how do they work?

Jose Ramirez
Jose Ramirez

Is her head hollow? How the fuck is it sticking in there?

Noah Johnson
Noah Johnson

His dick is going down her throat dummy. Aku of all shape shifting masters of darkness should know how this works.

Henry Nguyen
Henry Nguyen

they shit the bed as soon as ashi got shoehorned in

Jason Lopez
Jason Lopez

Because it's supposed to remind everyone of Ennio Morricone, and succeeds in doing so.

Oliver Brooks
Oliver Brooks

It's basically playing the first few seconds of Ecstasy of Gold as a beat, so it's hard not to.

Chase Rodriguez
Chase Rodriguez

lol why is this the only memorable music in the whole season
I think the two "chase" themes were pretty good myself, but that's just me.

Wyatt Johnson
Wyatt Johnson

Why would Zone be butthurt?

Michael Young
Michael Young

So when's the next episode going up?

Cameron Richardson
Cameron Richardson

There is no next episode, Jack.
;-;

Joshua Robinson
Joshua Robinson

he drew a picture of ashi and jack all lovey dovey, apparently he supported the ship
he got cut up apparently, by the finale

Benjamin Rogers
Benjamin Rogers

I'd swear that was just a remix of something from the original show

Jaxson Williams
Jaxson Williams

Die

Parker Johnson
Parker Johnson

Now that the dust has settled

Was Samurai Jack season 5 /kino/ or flick?

Christian Gutierrez
Christian Gutierrez

using /tv/ terms
Only for this time I'm going to bit the bait
Until episode 4 was kino, after that was cinema

Henry Phillips
Henry Phillips

not getting the reference

Nicholas Price
Nicholas Price

Im sorry i came to Holla Forums only for SJ discussion so i dont know your lingo

Tyler Sanchez
Tyler Sanchez

Trying to defend an overused joke

o hai /tv/ trying to blend in here?

Benjamin Cruz
Benjamin Cruz

being new
using a reaction image that doesn't accurately represent your post
replying n a way that makes you sound like a faggot 13 year old
not defending one of the best jokes in samurai jack besides the scottsman insult

Daniel Allen
Daniel Allen

Sounds like a good thing to slap onto a Blu-ray boxset…

David Martinez
David Martinez

trying this hard to salvage an unfunny attempt

Brandon Campbell
Brandon Campbell

I too wished for this ending, or at least kill him in the future then the past
It really would have been a problem if they continued living in the aku reality, because even though jack would have been a hero, Aku was holding a pretty big slice of world power, and killing a leader means you also have to fight a ton of followers for years after.
that sounds amazing and is a good excuse for more seasons that dont even have to be focused on jack
you have literally the worst taste ever

Elijah Collins
Elijah Collins

nothing is allowed to die with a satisfying end, it needs to keep going on until the fans taper off
plebian

Noah Moore
Noah Moore

noice

Elijah Phillips
Elijah Phillips

Until episode 4 was kino, after that was cinema
I disagree. First three episodes were /kino/. The rest was popcorn flick tier.

Logan Lopez
Logan Lopez

tfw season 5's trailers were better than the actual fucking season itself

Julian Johnson
Julian Johnson

But the premise of him is GETTING BACK TO THE PAST. It's even in the rap intro. Not going to the past defeated the series very premise.

Nolan Bailey
Nolan Bailey

The rest was popcorn flick tier.
comparing the rest of the episodes with korra tier quality

Kayden Rivera
Kayden Rivera

It was a fucking shame that jacko lost his kickass armor and never got it back

Jace Gonzalez
Jace Gonzalez

This is pretty good, albeit long enough to require a 1 hour special.

Noah Adams
Noah Adams

This scene never happened

Isaac Kelly
Isaac Kelly

Maybe Samurai Jack takes over Earth and rules it as a benevolent but firm warrior king in the comic timeline? Then the comics branch off from there.
Emperor Jack: Susanoo Squadron
Emperor Jack: Sergei's gambit.
Emperor Jack: the Trantor Trap
Emperor Jack: the Chemical X war
Emperor Jack: Yokai Squadron
Emperor Jack: Steel Palm
Emperor Jack: Scotsman command
Emperor Jack: Modula's Revenge
Emperor Jack: Starfighters at Yyrkoon
Emperor Jack: We meet again Blue Man

Logan Thompson
Logan Thompson

what was your favorite episode?

Nathan Hill
Nathan Hill

2 and 3 were both excellent, but 2 edges it out for me even if barely.

There were some top notch scenes throughout the rest of the season too, but those two episodes were just packed with them.

Episode 5 was probably my least favorite, though 6 was not far behind.

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