An Honest Discussion about Secular Western Women

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Even if they marry, they soon realize that their nice guy beta cucks are genetic waste and decide to divorce them. And as there are not enough Alphas for all of them to marry they jump from beta to beta in hope to find an alpha guy

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This just made me realize another facet of the D&C against whites. How, the media is simultaneously making women into ravenous whores who won't be satisfied until they're being dominated by an alpha while at the same telling men that "male aggression is rape :^(". Which is perfectly in line with what I already knew and expected.

Fucking kikes. DoTR can't come soon enough.

Women adore erotica because the context and relationship-building is stimulating, and there are many kinds of sexual fantasies with different 'leverage points' involved.

I would argue the degenerate kind is the degradation stuff like cuckoldry and interracial wherein you start at the 'prim and proper' woman and devolve into an immoral slut. Interracial porn and erotica psychologically works the same way as bestiality - it is naturally debasing and 'wrong'.

Fifty Shades, while shitty in terms of literature and only marginally better than most erotica, is at least not debasing in the same way that most interracial or cuckoldry is. BDSM is all about disparity, not equality, and women crave it like men crave pussy.

Erotica can be used to one's agenda if they so choose. Push the market towards the excitement and fulfillment of husbands and wives and traditional family structures with the right ingredients and you'll get housewives across the nation creaming themselves with fantasies of being a Stepford wife or mothering children for her loving husband.

Degenerate erotica will always be around, but the key is to ensure that it is treated like junk food - sparingly and don't make a habit of eating it because it is bad for you. You can insert any idea into erotica and make it sexy if you do so cleverly. (((They))) already try to, but are not as good at it as you might think.

Girls love a bad goy.

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Good observation, though the idea that the media is why women want alphas is misguided. That's nature, the (((media))) is just doing its best to reduce alphadom in men and to condition women to associate alpha traits with negative feelings.

That isn't what I've observed. Though at risk of sounding like a mgtow, women are increasingly going for "Chad." That way, by simultaneously pussifying decent men, they're insuring not only low population growth but a complete decline in the overall quality of the next generation's offspring through disgenics.

This to me is a hugely damaging meme, but without media control I don't know of a way to short circuit it.

I agree. Chad is exactly what kikes want, a sportsball muh dick drunk white guy, perfect for wage slavery. It seems like an increasingly unwinnable situation. I really don't see a way out of it.

Literally write better erotica then. It isn't hard, and if you have a moderate grasp of grammar you'll be better than average.

As for beating 'Chad', make yourself into a better man than 'Chad'. Self-improvement and a drive towards something other than 'getting pussy' will go a long way.

They were always like that

boyfriend material or husband material?

And someone imageboard browsing neckbeard is any better

I'm not worried about erotica. More of a comment about general pop culture. I am a better man than Chad, but I'm a single white guy burying myself in my work and focusing on personal improvement. On the outside I'm sure it looks like mgtow.

The woman wants to be dominated, yes. She wants to be told what to do, but she wants to see it done competently.
Despite being fundamental female urges, they are split away from what is nowadays considered to be an appropriate female role and are instead trashed as being anti-feminist and in denial of equality, while in the past, those urges were embraced and understood as normal and a part of female being.
While they can be used to your advantage in the bedroom, these will be ultimately detrimental and will serve only to sustain the current model, if not roped into the restoration of traditional family model.
It must be stressed over and over again that only in the family structure and institution of marriage can a woman find intimacy, satisfy her sexual urges, fulfill her child-bearing desires and establish economic safety at a level higher than if she was working alone.
The emotional fantasies must be added to it and used as the leading device that eases the redpill into the system - if a woman wants to have her ovaries used and be dominated, she must become a wife.

Its amazing how anons act like not being a slave to 3DPD is tantamount to being antifa or something who cares if you're mgtow or not.

A lot better, in a multitude of ways.
There are no ways in which Chad should compete, but the masses of women are just garbage… in my dating experience. Just value-less. Honestly I've been looking at women who are waitresses and work fast food more recently, trying to find someone that just wants to be a good mother… I'm fine with erotica and fantasy, but branch-swingers who are under the delusion that they can make FANTASY a reality are toxic and should be avoided.

2D PING PONG

And you can't be a Freemason if you're not at least a Deist, they don't allow atheists/agnostics/pagans in their ranks, only people who believe in a single higher power, no more no less.

Everyone on Holla Forums, of course. The thing is, yes… we take on the responsibility of becoming better and stronger men… for what? It's as if we're away at war in a lot of ways, isolated and ignored on a battlefield fighting for higher ideals (or understanding, or personal growth)… while women largely are "back home" fucking whoever and doing whatever. There is no payoff to the struggle really, imo. The "do it for her" meme is a fallacy. It isn't for her and it never was, it's just what men are programmed biologically to care about and be interested in. Is it a red pill, possibly, that at long last we discover the keys to our genetic future is a hedonists "Just fuck whoever and have fun" slogan?

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Women are looking for providers. Working class men can't provide, because the Jewish monetary treadmill runs faster and faster every year; it's been a couple generations since a single working class father can provide a decent life for a family. When we unkike the money things should improve. But for those of us who are stumbling in to middle age and still don't have a waifu or children - I think our generation is fucked, niggers. What women are even left for us? The used up 35 year old trashwhore; the spiteful Puritan virgin cunt; and younger, college-aged women who are way out of our league unless we have a six figure career and can be genuine providers. I think they did us in lads. We might have bought some time for the generation that's graduating high school now with our election of Trump, but I think we're just looking for our hill on which to die at this point.

At this point, American women have experimente with nigger dicks in high school, college at the latest.

shut the fuck up

Because both are degenerate on the same level. Shocking right? Your fantasies are as shit as you are especially for calling them romantic. Fucking faggots you know nothing of romance.

Equating virginity to spitefulness and le ebil puritanism

Not sure if the intent was demoralization or D&C. A shill, none the less.

You have to understand, in a pre-cucked world even the imageboard neckbeard would have dominated women.

ok tbh neckbeards wouldnt have existed, but you get what im saying

I'd hazard a guess that if you're 35 and you still have never had sex, there's something broken inside you. My sister is in her late 20s and she's still a kissless virgin, and she's a fucking monster, because my extended family is basically a manufacturing plant for broken people. Maybe I'm overgeneralizing from a familiar example, but as weird and messed up as I am, I've still been able to maintain several long-term relationships. My sister is a spiteful cunt who probably still thinks of her vagina as the no-no spot, it's fucking unhealthy.

I know its just a meme but you sound like a "chad" to me based on that greentext

That is pretty much how I feel

Sounds about right. If you hit 25 and you've had sex with over 50 women, you'd better have at least 3 kids. If you're over 35 and a virgin you're only excuse is that you're hardcore +100 kills IRL or a major faggot. Still, it's easier to respect virgins than whores.

If you're a woman it's completely different. No hymen then gtfo. One thing the goat-fuckers got right was the way they treat women and the 99 virgins thing.

I don't care, I only see Anons caring every few months or so That's generally a signal that new beta cucks and women have arrived.

Or you fap to too much porn, that kills your interest in women if you do it too much.

show me your no-no spot or get the fuck out

I've actually heard something very similar to this statement before, by my father.
He said

I don't think it's virginity that's the problem. I think it's a lack of male interest. Your sister is probably still a virgin because every guy she's dated thought she was so unbearable to be around that it wasn't worth the effort.

Thanks for killing my people. Thanks.

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My impression is she that she's so insufferable that she's convinced that there's literally no one in the world good enough to date her. From what I've heard (she barely talks to me, and not entirely without justification, our family is a nightmare and we've all got scars from it) she doesn't toss a crush out after three strikes, she waits about half a strike and then walks away without a second thought. Maybe she'll make some Holla Forumsack a happy man some day, I hope so, but I kind of doubt it. A man will have to be the exact right breed of Bible-believing; evolution-denying; civic nationalist motherfucker to ever waifu her.

better quality

no-no spot, expose it or vacate

んー何？　I'm a guy, you know…

Your sister's will suffice. Feed me

Believe it or not, user, I don't have any pictures of my sister's vagina.

Yet.

Explain fucking Shota? Why the fuck do some women get off to boys having sex with each other??? That literally makes no fucking sense.

Kek. My friend, you are fucking thirsty. I don't blame you though. If it makes you feel any better, it never gets any fucking easier. For 10 years I got laid on a very regular basis and then a few months ago my girlfriend left me. I'm not quite down to base-level sexual frustration yet, but it's not easy, and I don't see so much as a hint of relief on the horizon in any direction as of yet. It's better to have loved and lost, I can say that much with authority. But fucking Hell the satisfaction fades quicker than you could ever believe.

That ain't shit user. And no, I'm not any more "thirsty" for the no-no spot as I am to kill. You have a job to do faggot, get to it.

what is uke x seme
there's still domination, just not of a woman or by a grown man

the only hope for the american coal burner whore is a tight rope

Not really, it's all gay as fuck.

While she isn't that pretty, she seems quite book-smart, she writes better assignment answers than me. She is 19 I am 26, I intend to mold her into a woman. I got attracted to her because she seemed to always being alone and quite socially awkward, which reminded me of myself.

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Keep after her, user. And whatever you do, don't screw it up. She could be the one for you. I feel that those types are so hard to come by these days. That's all I'm looking for, myself. I just hope I find someone.

how do you know she is a virgin? just because she says she is doesn't mean so.

someone's doing the butt raping

Okay, I don't know for sure, but she has told me that she has never been in a relationship before.

I suppose the possitive side to housewife porn is that I see very few of them feature race mixing. The plot is 75% the same in every story and they concreate the man as dominate in the relationship.

If you flip through one, you will find plenty of parallels between dimestore smut and Gonzo porn. For example, both put the viewer/reader directly into the actor/character's perspective.

This is why all the men in porn have forgettable faces and all the smut heroines are Mary-Sues.

Beware, she might have been raped/molested. Those girls are usually damage beyond repair.

Not a reason to stop talking to her

I agree, but you still need to watch out for yourself.

It's about relationship-building in 'forbidden love' would be my guess. It's still gay as fuck.

just kill yourself already

Wew. Don't you know where you are?

You would think it would all be enough but even with money, degree and being athletic I could never date any of the slags at work.

They wear children as an accessory rather than care for them, almost all are already single mothers as well. I see how pathetic they are and point it out to them at weak moments.

I know what has to be done is to take over all forms of government but do we have enough men to fix problem? We are essentially are conquered populace within our own countries.

We must assert complete dominance over our women's reality if we wish to save our race.

You're asking the wrong user.

why

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this?

why???

The problem with the west is that they listen to women. Stop listening, start [email protected]/* */

We don't suggest people kill themselves because the loneliness crushes like a mace around here. I mean, I've held a loaded pistol with the safety off to my own head more than once, just to see what it feels like. This is a long and bittersweet struggle, and we need every last brother we can get.

Stop right there, find that pistol of yours and fire it into your feeble brain.

You've been weird this whole conversation tbqh fam. What's your game here? I mean, there's basically nobody in this thread right now but you and me, so if you come clean, I won't judge you. I'm only here because Nazis are the funniest and most intelligent people in the world. I'm here because I burned through everywhere else, and not even on purpose. What is it that makes you think you can walk among us as an equal?

What a faggot

UUUU

you're not one of us

You know all the words, but not the music.

Derail on account of your feelings on Reddit. We're talking about women and what makes them crave cock here.

who the fuck are you, don draper?

I think one thing the MGTOW people have right is this, women are essentially parasites. Nothing you do can never be enough for her, you can never be alpha enough, provide enough, be passionate enough, be humourous enough. Women are empty, women create nothing on their own and take and take, the nature of a parasite. A man can go to war to 'protect' his family/nation, and the women will cheat on him with out even thinking a thing of it. A man can work his ass off providing for his kids and wife, send them to top universities, but the wife doesnt give a shit and sees him as a weakling and a cuck. She will cheat on him with a chad and risk throwing everything away. Women have no tribal loyalty, no respect for anything, and no love for anything except for her children, even women fail at that most of the time though.

Women provide children, which is something men can't and shouldn't have to do. Women are beautiful and brave. We men will never understand what it's like to push a human being out of our dicks. Women deserve respect, honor, and glory.

thats really not anything special, most female mammals push shit out of their vagina. Oh and women now are afraid to have children because they say it will hurt a lot. So i guess they fail on that one as well.

take pictures of your sister's cunt, now

and most men don't want to get hurt, either.

It's simply the post WW2 German crushing jew influence nurtured by the former allied nations into a fully blooming industry of degeneracy.

I am not planning on having children because I am genetic trash, I see this as doing the white race a favor.
I was born to play the role of work horse, not family man. I need someone to give me menial manual labor tasks until my back breaks.
Falling for the "stay in school" meme probably did this to me. School fucking sucked and made it impossible to trust any bitches because college showed me all I am to them is a paycheck. I need to be someone else's paycheck and dig ditches my whole life.

Shota is male lolicon, usually with older women

Case in point, whining MGTOWs afraid of women that they'd rather die heirless and alone than "risk getting hurt by a girl"

I haven't lived with my sister for 20 years, shill.

suckstart a shotgun

Wrong answer, faggot.

You first.

Have a gondola in progress, I can see your nose through my ethernet cable

You know we're going to murder you, right?

no one is saying that asshole. I want you to see how you feel after being married to a woman for 10-20 years and she cheats on you with tyrone and steals your children, house, and lifetime alimony. Thats why mgtow exists.

Not good enough.

There you go again.

You're right, it's not. I'm still working on it, hence in progress
Memes aren't made overnight unless you're a low effort reaction-face shitter like (((you)))

Oh please.

When the fuck did I say anything about memes? Get your head straight, then blow it the fuck up.

I'm not the one trying so goddamn hard to fit in. I really hope you consider suicide in the next 24 hours.

wew

I don't think you get-it, lad. But that's understandable, because you're jewish. You are the golem. You've always been the golem. The handful of good jews that ever existed, all of them were anti-semites.

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too long, didn't read

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damn I keep getting dubs when I tell this guy to fuck off, almost like kek wants him to fuck off too

what the fuck are you even trying to imply here?

That you're an obvious idiot

since you sorely fucked that up, maybe it's time you stopped bumping this thread, which inadvertently exposes your own autism

They can always take turns.

For me, my biological clock is set to once every two months. But then again I masturbate every day or night and keep myself very busy, so what do I know?

Mods are missing out on a good opportunity for an obvious shill sticky like we had months ago. It might be good for all the new visitors we've been getting.

Most men of antiquity died as virgins, or at least never having reproduced.

'Every inch of Western Women love this trash…'?
Fuck off, don't speak for women if you don't even know the truth. The factual information concludes that less than half the Western Women population would read this book, and how many of those even like the book, but are just mimicking those around them? So in actual factual Q.E.D.; NO, women do not read or enjoy this book. You need to fuck off back to YOUR fantasy land.

Western women unfortunately don't have as many babies as their underling relatives of the black, asian and arabic populations. But it means the ones that are produced can sometimes be more intelligent than 10 of those counterparts elsewhere in the world.

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Finally, starting at 0800 on 25 September, Luftwaffe bombers under the command of Major General Wolfram von Richthofen conducted the first major city attack of World War II, dropping 500 tons of high explosive bombs and 72 tons of incendiary bombs
http:// military.wikia.com/wiki/Bombing_of_Warsaw_in_World_War_II

This seems to be actually true, to what do you refer when you say that the allies started with strategic bombing of axis cities prior to vice versa?

I'm going to speak on both sides of this for arguments sake

First, novels like that are fantasy, yes, and its a fantasy women like to indulge in. But ask yourself "why" to start with. Why would they idolize this sort of relationship (even if just on a sexual level)? Because, whatever need it is they have, is not being met. Why do many of us play fantasy video games? Because we have a desire for exploration and adventure that is not met by our modern lives, the edges of the map are filled in, and its basically impossible to live outside of government rule completely no matter where you go everywhere is already claimed by some"one", the best we get is in fantasy games where there may be a logical system to the game, but we're free to act however we choose within what is essentially the games laws of physics. Even beyond that we can be someone we are not, we may be fat or out of shape, but in that fantasy we are strong, fast, confident, etc.

Viewing it that way, it becomes clear that women who enjoy the type of fantasy OP talks about, are simply lacking some of those elements from said fantasy in their own lives and have to seek them out in other ways. So what elements are mainly present in that fantasy? For the woman, shes "pretty," desirable, people like her even if shes awkward, and despite being about as "average" as possible, a rich handsome man wants her. They view themselves as "like her" and thus can live vicariously in a way, and it makes them happy to fantasize about some rich etc guy falling all over them. Secondly, the aspects of the male, he is dominant, confident, intimidating, never unbalanced, quick witted, physically fit, "amazing in bed," assertive and goal oriented.. he is, in effect, the "perfect" male (which is also why its trashy writing, everyone has flaws, his "flaw" is that he has commitment/openness issues, oh noes something 99% of HUMANS have, the horror), which truth be told most western males today cannot even come close to being half of those things, and the ones who do are either in a relationship, or do not WANT a relationship, or are reclusive and avoid women

Much in the same way many "weebs" around here idolize or fantasize about anime women. Because they represent the pure feminine which is lacking in our modern world (if not lacking completely in reality, I dont personally think women can even BE what anime girls are, even at their most feminine), women now are rude, manipulative, liars, bitchy, unfaithful, demanding, high maintenance, lazy, fat, arrogant, aggressive, etc or some combo plate thereof. So many end up idolizing anime girls who are polite, cute, honest, and loyal, other personality traits and quirks exist to distinguish them, but at their core, those are the things that define them, they lack the negatives modern women have, and have the positives that modern women lack

Thus, the fantasy is born. They "want" these things, I would say its almost a "need," but they can rarely have them. Moreover, they are not like the main female character at all, and even though "some" men like that fantasy exist, the majority of women can never "get" them because they are undesirable themselves by possessing many of the negative traits listed above. But in the fantasy, they ARE that girl, and they can GET that man who is all the things they desire in a man. Hes shallow, naturally, because he was written by a woman, who doesnt see anything IN men besides those traits, they dont get personality quirks or hardship or w/e else, they think only THEY have or go through those things. If anything it speaks volumes about what women think men even are, we're basically just tools, robots, to them.

So, in that regard, its easy to see why they take to this kind of fantasy, its the same reason we take to vidya and anime girls. It lets them pretend to be what they arent, and lets them fantasize about what they cant have (we fantasize because what we want doesnt exist, they fantasize because they cant have what they want even if it does exist), but what they desire most.

Now, on the other side of it, it also speaks to how shallow women are. I touched on this at the end of the first post, but women see men as tools. The main male character isnt deep at all, hes incredibly shallow and can be summed up as "rich hunk who is a sexual deviant due to past trauma." Thats it. Meanwhile the main female character is somewhat deeper, as deep as a shitty author could make her. She has reasons and motives for her actions, she has personality outside of the relationship that define her and dictate her actions, she has goals and ambitions that are outlined and reasons for them at are defined. The male? Hes rich, he has money, he wants more money, he wants to spend money on a woman, he also wants deviant sex with that woman.

But women dont think about ANY of this while fantasizing. They dont consider that the object of their fantasy might as well be a robot that jizzes money instead of a human male for all the depth he has (or rather, doesnt have). Conversely many who fantasize about anime girls take into great consideration what "anime girl" they pick even if they arent purposefully aware of that fact. Sure they (mostly) all have the same basic traits listed in the first post, but beyond that they each have their own quirks and personality, likes and dislikes, dreams, goals, hopes, desires, etc, and those define who the character is and different men find different characters appealing as their own tastes/mentality lines up with different characters. The fantasy becomes about the male in question would have a life with that character and everything that entails, while the female fantasy is just about what the man will do FOR the woman for her life to be better in whatever way she wants.

It explains a lot about the difference in the two sexes when you get right down to it. Sure, its natural to fantasize about what you dont, or cant, have in this modern world, everyone does it in some way. What really speaks volumes is WHAT that fantasy entails. For men, its a loving, caring, loyal, devoted, fun, happy, cute, woman that they can spend their time with and do things together. For women, its a dick that jizzes money for them no matter how mediocre or flawed they are as a woman. Mens fantasies tend to make us want to be better men to be worthy of such a reality. Womens fantasies make them even more complacent and lazy because they dont have to do or earn anything, its simply showered upon them.

That, is the modern western male and female in a nutshell. Men want a loving loyal wife to share their lives with each other and to make each other better people. Women want a money jizzing dick that will let them be whatever kind of trash they are and will still fight hell and damnation to "win them" regardless of how shitty they are.

And that, is why so many men now have given up on women.

I would say the primary issue with your commentary is one word: "secular".
I am all for a religion – but not a foreign Jewish religion.
Women love cock, including religious women, and especially the cock of a rich handsome powerful man who wants their pussy. Women get off on (the fantasy of, at least) being used – and why would you expect otherwise, given their evolutionary history and ecological role?

A woman IS like the pitbull you describe – and many such animals (pitbulls that can be, in fact are by nature, vicious; many of which have bitten, have been trained to bite) can and do become wonderfully loyal companions to a given individual, or even family.

They are batshit insane, giant children, who are obsessed at the core of their being by the concept of being dominantly fucked and inseminated by someone they are at least somewhat physically and socially attracted to – preferably significantly representative of both aforementioned clades – and anyone who doesn't understand that is a fool.

Woman, like Man, is a rising beast – not a fallen angel.
When the cultural ecology in which those beasts exist is tainted in foulness of spirit, it is no surprise that the beast doth rise not as a Man, nor Woman, but as a monster little better, if not worse, than the beast.

Now, you might argue, you do not wish to risk you well-being to tame, to domesticate, to work with, this vicious animal, this monster born of a beast which could have been a Woman… But that assumes, for one, that you are any less a monster – and if you're here, of all places, doubly so, if in a totally different fashion – and for two, that you have a choice, which is itself the greatest fantasy: If there is any objective purpose to the human existence, it is that of the organismal, it is reproduction, continuation, if you will, and if you wish to reproduce, there is only one avenue presently (or forthcoming, barring the most wealthy and/or committed perhaps) available to this end, and it lies within the torso of the monstrosity which ought have been your mate.

Thus, if you wish to continue, if you wish to succeed in the most basic, the most objectively core, context of your existence, then you must reproduce; and if you want your children to thrive, you must be there to raise them, particularly if they are male.
… And frankly, if you would claim yourself a male, if you would claim that title, then you must claim what comes with it – you are the defender, and something evil has crept amongst your kind.
You must fight it, and you must win – the survival and dignity of your people depends upon it.

And to win that fight, you must engage the monsters, and find one that you can – try, at least – to carve a Woman out of, and in that act, in that effort, perhaps, you might find a Man carved from the monster which you've likewise become.

You want a better woman. I get it. You're scared. I get that too – fear of a toxic serpent, a gnawing shark, a hissing dragon, a dire monster, is not foolish, nor unjust.
But a war is coming. A war for our very existence. And if you will not contribute to the reinforcements of that battle, then you better be ready to fight on the front lines.
This future will require a contribution of blood, one way or the other.

Is a better answer than

tbh fam, but even so, checkin' em.

Sad, but true. Our generation is fucked beyond all repair, between the boomers and the kikes we never had a chance. Loads of us were screwed into debt slavery by college, loads more will never make it out of the bottom tier of earners to be able to even provide for a family, meanwhile more than half our generation is nothing but degenerate leftists hell bent on our destruction, which has driven many into isolation, solitude, and depression to the point many have simply dropped out and given up ever having a life that is more than the daily grind between work and escapism at home.

What is there really left for most of us other than to die fighting for the next generation to have it better than we did, to push back the degenerates and show the next generation that following in our footsteps would be a grave mistake leading them into lives where the females are 30+ year old used up whores with 10 cats, and the men are disillusioned with women and society (either because they were "chad" and lost all respect for women because they could fuck any of them at any time, or they werent chad and saw what was going on and realized the same thing chad did, that our generations womens are all money grubbing whores) or they're total cucks and waste away raising their wifes kid while she goes out to fuck more chads or jamals.

The best any of us could really hope for at this point is to become very successful and fit and appeal to younger girls just getting out of HS and snatch them up before they go into college and become complete degenerate whores, and instead train them to be proper wives. But even then, in this degenerate society theres nothing holding them back from deciding they want to go ride the cock coaster and bailing on us and taking half our shit with them in the process. So even THAT route is filled with landmines and boobytraps that would surely destroy all but the incredibly lucky

Eh, its all pretty fucked. But, at least we memed Trump into power, we did SOMETHING good with the shit hand we were dealt. Maybe we can do more so the next gen will have a chance.

We had a thread covering that argument last week – its mostly bogus historical revisionism.

Instead of that piss-poor half-assed article you linked, go to the ACTUAL wikipedia entry, which lists the sources cited with much greater detail, almost all of which are post-2000 era books written by US or Polish agents.
Its like asking the fucking Romans about Carthage, and then believing what they tell you.

I also checked wikipedia, and it had the same information. The only vague disclaimer was that Germany justified attacks on Warsaw by saying that it was a "fortified city" and therefore not purely civilian strategic bombing. 84% destruction however makes this a little hard to swallow, I also found multiple other sources corroborating all of the above, and yet I am still asking for more information, so instead of acting like a nigger and chimping out on me because you don't like being asked to substantiate the things you claim, maybe try actually answering the question?

I am genuinely interested and if it could be conclusively proven that your position is the correct one that would be another piece in the puzzle.

Well, let's actually talk about the claim then, fuck face.

First off: Polish campaign? Not technically World War II by any reasonable reckoning.

Second: If attempting to support a claim as regards a bombing effort in Poland, holding up Allied (particularly US/Polish) sources is sketchy, at best… Then again, holding up anything from the period is sketchy at best, so whatever I guess.

Third: The individual in question was referring to the Anglosphere, and most historical evidence – trash that it is – seems to suggest the English initiated bombing of German cities in response to A) bombing of British war assets and B) the (supposed) bombing of a city in the Netherlands (which the media of the time, and the Dutch government in exile, attempted to exploit by claiming some insane number of casualties; your worthless historical documents and sources will corroborate as much to boot).

So, in the context of the user's claim, he is still accurate, because A) Poland =/= Anglosphere, B) Polish campaign =/= WWII, and C) Anglosphere DID initiate bombing on German cities in response to aggression upon military assets (and, arguably, the bombing of a Dutch city).

I could go on deconstructing the maelstrom of bullshit that is World War II history, but suffice to say, the fog of war has moved in – the puzzle cannot be finished, cannot be even really attempted, because huge sections of it do not exist, and other sections have been purposefully replaced with different pieces.
If you're honestly attempting to 'put the puzzle together' as regards World War II, via examination of historical documents and the commentary of 'historians' – particularly those derived from Allied states – then you must be really, really new.

That said, it bears noting…

That entire narrative is fucking trash m8.

keep it out of Holla Forums

can I get an amen?

The quiet girls are usually the crazy ones.

Thank you for the explanation.

So in conclusion, if you define "allies" as not including the Dutch and Polish, and also do not consider the Polish Campaign as part of World War II, you can make the claim that the allies were the first to intiate strategic city bombing during World War II, as their campaigns only began in earnest following the bombardment of Rotterdam.

If you just refer to the actual action of strategic city bombing, then Germany did indeed do it first, but arguably to a lesser extent than the official history shows, and even in light of the official history, German strategic bombing of cities was much more restrained than allied strategic bombing of cities from an examination of the relative casualty figures alone.

Does that accurately portray the state of reality as you understand it?

not true

Are you for real?

Mods seem to think so. What the fuck is this, Plebbit now?

You realize this fantasy works directly into our favor right?

If you spent a little time understanding female psychology and less time feeling bad for your feefees than you'd realize we have all the power here. We have gained conscious control of our memes. By taking responsibility you gain power. Finding a good woman is simple. Just stop falling for Stacies like a total retard. Make our desire for children and family known right off the bat and don't back down from your beliefs. Worthy women will come to you.

It's the female equivalent to pr0n as their stimuli is less visual-driven. So it should be curbed in proportion.

I think the goal is to improve yourself, and essentially act as if you're filtering out the bad partners or degenerate partners.

I have a successful career in IT, good money, good looks, good head'o'hair and an athletic build. But, I (was) a very submissive guy when I wasn't at work. I learned through dating, and several, really, really bad relationships, that you kind of need to take control, I also learned that sleeping with sluts, even from a position of control, gives them more ammo to work with.

I think the best way to fix this, is essentially be a virtuous "chad" (I hate the phrasing) pick and choose, have standards, don't settle for some nice looking chick for a lay, but actually hold them to some standards and take control of the situation, if any red flags appear, get the fuck out of there, and tell them WHY they fucked up.

Be the man you want to be, and tell women who don't meet your standards that they're awful when THEY'RE in a position of vulnerability.

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Kek. A little too soon, user… I've got the black magician boy's confidence. I'm entirely self-assured, but I judge myself based on a set of criteria that are totally orthogonal to those portrayed in the popular media. Being a skilled scryer and in possession of wiry fortitude is not exactly the milkshake that brings all the girls to the yard. Ah well, it takes all kinds. I miss you Himmler.

what the fuck man

IT MADE SENSE IN MY MIND

This

Don't hold them as a single bloc while clinging to your own individuality.

They're fucked, we are fucked, everything is fucked right now. That doesn't mean that erotica is real any more than porn is real. Statistics document a whole and you can figure out the effect of that whole. You are one of billions, one of hundreds of millions of white men existing today, that doesn't mean you are individually doomed even if degeneracy is in the majority. Lead, don't be simply one of many.

Uh, "shota" without the qualifier of "straight" is assumed to be man-boy love, dude. That's what the first shota comic was about. Technically it means "young boy" and can involve any romantic story with a young boy, but "shota" by itself has a homosex connotation.
Man I have been on these boards way too long.

Either a roastie or a white knight of the highest caliber. See how brave they are when they don't have any men protecting them.

You mean getting fucked by the law, right?

Wise words. Physical dominance is very alpha but there's a reason some fat, ugly guys still get tons of pussy. My sister calls it "confidence that isn't annoying."

Childbirth is serious business, dude. Women in industrial countries with the best medical care ever invented still die in childbirth. I get being angry about not being respected by women - in a lot of cases, we simply aren't anymore. We're supposed to count ourselves lucky if we so much get a place on the cock carousel. Isn't the fact that we count ourselves as better than that a big part of why we've been excluded in the first place?

I think so. The problem is that being a provider for a family is much harder than pushing out kids. Women have never at any point in history had it harder than men. They always ate first right after the kids, and should have never been given the opportunity to bitch or complain.

The only way to fix this properly is through severe physical societal change. If women aren't going to respect us as decent men, then they will fear us as ruthless men.

Women aren't mothers until they have children.
They don't deserve to be respected as such until they have earned it, any more than a need deserves to be respected as "someone who might be a war veteran hero some day."
They default position of falling at the feet of women (I.e chivalry) is an echo from a time where THE NORMAL AND EXPECTED COURSE OF LIFE, in fact, the only viable course for most, was to be mothers. Thus on the basis of this social contract or promise, it made sense for society to allow women to cash in on their status as "bearer of the next generation" ahead of time - on credit if you will.
Their credit was good in those days and barring death, sickness or extreme deviancy, her future motherhood was guaranteed.
Those days are long gone, it is not 1800, nowadays a woman is more likely to murder the future generation in the womb than she is to give birth to its boys and girls. This is not hyperbole but fact based on abortion statistics. The majority of women have had at least one abortion by 40 years of age.

In summary, womankind has a negative credit score, her checks are not worth the paper (words) used to write them, in such a case, credit cannot be given, respect must be EARNED, good mothers have earned their respect, childless women have not, regardless of the future intentions they CLAIM to have regarding offspring, no more than a weed smoking teenager has earned the right to call himself an Army captain.
Yes, as did Natsoc Germany and Russia, medals were given for the social duty of childbearing, just as they were to men for military service.

This continuation of "chivalry" and the giving of not only unearned but in these times, undeserved respect, only emboldens women with the knowledge that men, or at least certain types of men, will fight to be the one to supply her with an endless stream of money and resources, on the basis of a bad chequ - a duty that need never be fulfilled.
It has to stop.

Why do some men get off in lesion porn? Explain that and you'll have your answer. Personally I think they're both degenerate.

Lesbian porn. Fucking auto correct.

Why do some guys get off on guro? Why do some guys get off in inflation, or vore? It's hard to explain why some people get off on things you think are gross

Cont.
To start addressing this issue in women, social pressure needs to be brought back and rights of barren women curtailed, as are the rights of men who refuse selective service.
For a start women should be denied the vote until they have at least one child.

You mean lesbian? That's easy, lesbians don't exist. Women act lesbian to attract male attention.

Good post. They want us to dote on them, but fail to maintain their end of the social contract and the white race is dying because of it. But it's not entirely their fault. The kikes have gone out of their way to both disparage motherhood and to make it impossible for a man to work a blue collar job and raise a family on his wages. It's a multi-prong attack, and blaming women for having their positions overrun is hypocritical when we've been overrun ourselves. I wish it were as easy as a video game. I wish we could all just go out, shoot King Yid in the head, and have light wash over the land once again. But I'm afraid it's going to be a brutal and hollow struggle for many of us, going forward.

Before someone points it out, my answer was incomplete. There are women who lesbian without the intention, conscious or otherwise, of attracting men. Those are the type typified by the fat old Jewish hag who is also a dyke. They also are not truly "lesbian" they are just so ugly that they are unable to attract men of the standard they have set for themselves, so using another woman for sex is a coping strategy, not the result of true sexual preference.
For the attractive lesbians it is different, they are signalling their sexual frustration and readiness through the use of a similarly ready partner.

I would also roll welfare reform into that. I don't need Lashiqua and Maria having kids and having a vote either, all on my dime.

Thanks. Yes, the last branch of the root is the Jew, no question.

What could help alleviate some of the financial burden of having kids for many white men is to form a network of people willing to help pay for kids and childcare. In the past, the government did this through shit like food stamps. The problem is niggers and spics have contaminated the whole pool, so the creation of a private, racial exclusive support network is in order.

I'd rather my taxes go to supporting white families and white communities than supporting whatever shitskin spawn happens to be born.

That goes without saying.
There is no point asking or hoping for that behavior to change when it is incentivised.
Currently the message from society is contradictory. The message "don't have children you can't afford", " don't be promiscuous ", " don't be idle" is the verbal message, but at the same time those behaviours are rewarded via the positive reinforcement of government welfare.
Positive reinforcement needs to be replaced with a combination of positive and negative punishments. Words don't influence society level behaviour, rewards and punishments are what dictate it.

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Of course, what used to do shit like this is churches. Your local religious organization was a self-governing community hub that would see to charity; help set men and women up; and defend its people. That's why I have sympathy for some of the "christcucks" around here who fight so hard to protect their institutions, at least when it's protecting a community nexus and not a religious ideology. It just seems like every organization that has traditionally served that role in the West has been delegitimized. Christians held onto too many demonstrably false beliefs, and it became difficult for the intelligent, savvy, and spiritual to believe in good faith. I don't actually know what the story of things like the Masons or Elks or Lions are, but my impression is that it's almost entirely 60+ who checked out years ago for the same reason we have. Once again I think of the SS. They were a spiritually motivated organization that tried like Hell to get its members to start breeding, and you were allowed to be Protestant, Catholic, or generically "God-believing." The only thing that wasn't tolerated was atheism. I think there's a lot Holla Forums can repurpose from that approach.

I agree entirely. Its part of the reason why I promote things like Kek and all of the esoteric stuff behind "meme magic". It helps form the foundation of a new belief system for those who aren't christian or particularly religious.

Because it takes away control from Schlomo and his pals. Can't have an independent safety net for whites operating when you're trying to genocide and dismantle them.

I don't know the story of their founders either, but I can tell you that the local lodges basically function as the organizations I've described above, with low level members helping each other out when they need it. Think of it like a much larger extended family, where medical care and financial services, as examples, can be acquired at a cheaper price via connections and contacts. It would serve us well to infiltrate these organizations at the low level, while forming our own independent Holla Forums centered version for ourselves. Using secret symbols, we could ID one another and begin to form relationships that way, using nepotism in a similar way the jews have.

Absolutely. Religious D&C is a major tool of shills looking to derail decent discussion.

Such as?

youtube.com/watch?v=RBqjZ0KZCa0

breaking news, people's sexual fantasies involve sexual things

an another note, women enjoy being submissive to powerful men

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I don't think you can fault women for having a fantasy about a strong dominant man any more than you can fault a man for looking at porn or having a fantasy about banging a super model. Just because I've looked at porn doesn't mean I'm going to cheat on my gf or that I don't want a family. In my experience, it's women who are single or with a fat fuck who read these types of stories anyways.

The same could be said about men, with every rap song being about fucking numerous bitches, scantily clad women in every movie, and porn sites everywhere. You have a valid point that society is definitely pushing the 'be a slut, be a "playa' narrative. But the fact that they have to push it, the fact that they have to try to program and hit us with it 24/7 is a testament to how decent and good people in general are. If we were all just slutty and whorish there wouldn't be a big push for the narrative they would push for a different kind of degeneracy.

Your right it does show what women want. They want a strong dominant man who can take charge and lead the way, whos decent looking and can take care of himself to sweep her off her feet, a guy whos so alpha he's simply undeniable in a world of the average and beta… Of course women want that as they should. But in the novel's your using as proof the girl ends up with the one guy, not with 20 or thirty dudes banging her at once. These novels play on her desires to have both a commited relationship but with a sexy man. i don;t think theres anything wrong with that and you can use these books as a guideline for what you should be if you want to attract women.

As far as divorces and the legal system its all fucked…. screen girls before you date them is al i can say

Good luck user

Nothing has destroyed women more than social media

Social media is our weapon. Before only (((they))) could program women with education system and tv shows. Now social media allows us into a nuclear meme war at full scale. They don't stand a chance really. You suddenly realize who all the stacies are. Great, Social Media did you a huge favor. Normally degenerate women are cloaked as normal women. They blend in no longer. We can judge all their faults. Let the stacies fuck niggers. Let their offspring be brown. Let their progeny be eternally marked as low quality whorespawn. This only makes white mean more. Our quality and power grows as we shed the genetic deadweight.

Guro?
:^)

God damn you're an annoying little fucker

Well most guys don't even know that a woman on the pill has practically flipped preferences in men, and as soon as she's off the pill her preferences will flip right back. or that some of a woman's psychology is cyclical like how when she's ovulating is when she is most subconciously judgmental of your manliness above all else, that that time is a short period of the month, followed by the actual period (if you failed or used a condom), and that she is absolutely subtle as shit when signalling her ovulation and you have to git gud at spotting subtle ques. Or my personal favorite the dreaded "does this make me look fat?" question is not asking if you think she's fat she's inviting you for some loving and the right answer is to spin the question in to that invitation and go for it.

Ye I'm pretty sure I'm gonna be celibate for life at this point.

Yeah there's some real fucking bullshit on Amazon. I think it's for old, lonely and fat chicks. I don't see any young hot ones reading anything. Which is perhaps worse haha. But when you see a real woman reading it's some well known novel.

Alright, look at what who you listed. It's a variety, but they all have something in common, working drones. So this trashy writing is escapism.

You see a woman reading that stuff and it tells you she's bored and looking for some excitement. A big reason a lot of women cheat is because the guy is boring them. They want romance which they find exciting.

So grab one and fuck her in the pussy xD.

Nope, it was common to lose virginity at early teens so you were ready to marry, have kids and move out of your parents at 18-19 y.o.

This can be seen as very harsh or very cozy depending on perspective.

lose virginity to a whore

I used to work for a suicide hotline where I intentionally tried to get people to kill themselves.