Rasputin: Devil or Saint?

During the events which lead to World Judaism taking control, Russia was a hotbed of occultism.
Rasputin comes in as a faith healer that apparently was so good at it that he impressed the heads of the Orthodoxy, who nicknamed him "the Saint".
He advised against WW1 and predicted the holocaust of Communism and the deaths of the Zsar's family, and his own. Survived attempts on his life. Had sexual orgies to drive out sin. Was part of a secret Christian group in Siberia. Took over Russia during the war.

WTF was this guy? And how do I take over America through sex orgies to overthrow the Jewish aristocracy?

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He actually didn't engage in sexual acts aside from with his wife. He was merely a Christian Occultist who worked as an alternative "medicine" practitioner. He wasn't a member of any secret society or the Khlysts.

Read The Jew As Criminal by J. Keller and H. Andersen. Rasputin actively helped communists take over Russia and was best buds with the bankers, gambling house owners and brothel-keepers.

idk but he had a big ole dick

Why do you say that? Because he was famous for orgies and the church tried to beat it out of him with a giant cross and then he had the head of the church run off by telling the Ztsar's wife. And what is a Khlyst?


Prove it. I'm listening…

He was the Oberstein of Russia.

He was just crazy

He was a man who knew how to build his own legend.

We are all mere men, our legendaey ancestors were all mere men.

Greatness happens when we truly know this.

He was not a spy, just an ally because he thought he would be in power after the Tsar was out of the picture.
I am not going to comb through the book just to dig out the info. Do it yourself, you have the name.

Being crazy is a jewish concept tbqh m8

I have no idea. Russia is very foreign to me and it was a hundred years ago. Try asking Dr. Matt Johnson he runs The Orthodox Nationalist and knows a lot about Russia.

Crazy doesn't sound like a bad thing in this case.

saint and devil like good and evil are semitic concepts and do not exist in reality

He had literally nothing to do with the Judeo Bolsheviks though. He was content with the power he had been given by the Romanovs. If he had wanted to overthrow the Romanovs, he would have worked toward a truly Russian rebellion against the Tsars, rather than the Jewish one.

The Khlysts were a gnostic cult in Russia who Grigori studied briefly. Supposedly he took some of their beliefs on, such as the belief that sin is required for forgiveness, but we'll never know what he actually thought. They practiced sex magic like Jews, with large orgies lead by a mother figure, and a father figure, dressed as Mary and Jesus respectively.

I still don't know how he got into the position. It's all well and good to read another anti-kike book but that doesn't mean it's historically accurate. The Orthodoxy seemed to more than approve of him. Where they Communists too? Was the wife of the Zsar Communist too? That's not enough of an answer to just say he was working for the opposition

Read the damn book. It explains pretty well why he did what he did.

He was playing all sides. Do you even into opportunism. He had a lot under the Tsar, but he wanted even more. He also felt the Tsar's power weakening, so he wanted to be at the front of a "new wave".

Explain please. That seems like saying a cure for AIDS through getting AIDS

And what did he do? He was discontent with the state of Russia, as many were. The Judaic revolt fed off this discontent. He's as responsible as any other Russian.

By embracing Atheism and Jews who wanted to openly kill his kind and openly blamed him for Russian corruption?

The whole of Jewry in Russia had but one single goal: the fall of Jewry-
hostile Czarism, Emancipation and finally, the seizure of power. To
attain this goal the Jews played at different roles in the various classes
of society, in the different parties, in the Press, in public opinion, in the
economy, etc., in all of which these Jewish columns and divisions
naturally mutually supported one another and so proceeded together
according to one strategic plan. The Jews everywhere and at all times,
by the way, are accustomed to act following this recipe. By its very
nature, the task of penetrating the highest level of the Russian
aristocracy, the Czarist Court itself, was especially difficult. One Jew
succeeded in doing this – Aaron Simanovitch, who by means of
bribery, by establishing gaming clubs and as jeweler [107] found entré
into the Court circles and there unfolded his pernicious activities. This
one Jew achieved more for the destruction of the Romanov monarchy
and for the preparation of the Bolshevist Revolution than many of the
prominent Party Jews.

The instrument of his work of destruction was Rasputin. An enormous
literature, which sometimes makes him out to be a kind of saint,
sometimes a devil in the flesh, yet again a libertine, here as a miracle-
worker, there as a plain man of the people, again as an opportunist, has
come about in the entire world about this person. In any case, he is
imbued with the aura of mystery, he's romanticized with a mystical
power and he is considered to be one of the most interesting
personalities of pre-Revolutionary Russia. This view of Rasputin must
today be fundamentally revised and overturned.

Rasputin was actually little more than a corrupt and depraved subject,
who allied himself with Jewry – to be more exact, who sold himself to
the Jews – out of material motives, from the greed for power and
hatred against the nobility. Simanovitch himself describes the
"significance" of Rasputin in this way:

"Rasputin was one of the many clairvoyants and soothsayers with
whom the Czarist court teemed. These sort of people were sought for
all over Russia, and the relatives of the Czar took an active part in the
hunt for miracle-workers." (p.293-294)

Rasputin was apparently brought to Court by Simanovitch, who had
gotten to know him in Kiev (p. 33), and brought to the Princess
Orbeliani and the Lady-in-waiting to the Czarina, Anna Vyrubova, who
smoothed the way to the Czarina for Rasputin and who remained his
slave to the end. Simanovitch writes about this:

"And indeed, she was the first who intervened with her whole person
and with the expenditure of her every power and all of her influence at
Court for Rasputin. Every desire of Rasputin was law for Vyrubova.
She downright idolized him, and to her, the loyal intercessor between
him and the Imperial couple, Rasputin owed, to a great extent, his
unique position. He said of her, that she would follow him to the end of
the world, and she was actually his most devoted and compliant
agent
(2)."

Whether Vyrubova believed that she was "merely acting in the interest
of the Imperial couple and of the dynasty," as Simanovitch claims, or
whether she did not, rather, also take a very material [108] interest in
Rasputin and in Simanovitch over and above this, is not entirely clearly
establishable. In any case, Simanovitch reports (p. 211) that Vyrubova
frequently accepted "donations," indeed, that she also personally
received "valuable presents." Simanovitch writes verbatim: "Thus, Frau
Rubinstein gave her, for example, 50,000 Rubles, Frau Beinensohn 25,000 Rubels, the Banker Manus 200,000 Rubels, Nachimov 30,000 Rubels, Popov 10,000 Rubels. From me myself, Vyrubova received
various valuable diamonds, emeralds and precious silver flower vases."

That sounds rather incriminating. Protopopov, who, after making the
promise "to do something for the Jews," (p. 209) obtained from
Simanovitch, Rasputin and Vyrubova the post of Minister of the
Interior, likewise "donated" 100,000 Rubels for the military hospital
founded by Vyrubova – one of the usual bribery maneuvers during the
war period in Russia. Before his appointment, by the way, Simanovitch
redeemed the note of Protopopov at a profit of 150,000 Rubels. But not
without "Protopopov's promise to repay me this amount out of the
secret fund of the Ministry of the Interior after his appointment." (p.
211.)

*cont*

Most of the legends about Rasputin stress the "strange magical
suggestive power" of this man of wonders and describe the more or
less brutal and boundless sexuality of Rasputin as the source of his
influence, particularly upon his countless female supporters among the
highest levels of [109] Petersburg society. It is frequently even claimed
that his influence on the Czarina was not without such a basis and that
even the Czar's daughters were sexual slaves to him. As a typical
example of this we might list a notorious article of the likewise
notorious Jewish agent, journalist and companion of Simanovitch, Manassevitch-Manuilov, which he even presented before the
Extraordinary Investigatory Commission of the Provisional
Government, on 8 April 1917 (1):
"I published an interview with him at that time, which raised a lot of
dust and which was also translated into French and English; it appeared in the Novoye Vremye (The New Times). His famous story of the bath room. . .What it was about, was that he (Rasputin) described to me the
following: 'When I was living in Siberia, I had many female admirers
and among these female admirers there were (I may say this, because
it's already been printed) ladies who were very close to the Court. So
they came to me there (that is, to Siberia) and then they desired to get
closer to God. . .One can come closer to God only through self-
abasement. And now I led all of these women of the great world, in
diamonds and expensive clothes, into the bath room (there were seven
women). I undressed them all and forced them to wash me.'"
This famous account is typical of the legend of Rasputin. It's just as
typical that it [the story] comes from a Jew. The Jews made use of
Rasputin for two goals simultaneously: at once to carry corruption into
the Czar's Court and to attain through him substantial influence on the
formation of the government and the direction of politics, but at the
same time to use the same Rasputin as the figure of propaganda
against the Czar and the conditions at Court which had been created by
and desired by themselves, at which [conditions] they of course
speculated in true Jewish fashion on the avarice and meanness of
people, and in this speculation they were correct. By means of the
agitation of the Jewish press, Rasputin became the symbol of Czarist
degeneration. He was so closely identified with Czardom, that the
revolver shots of Yussupov at Rasputin became at the same time fatal
shots at the Czarist rulership in general. Thus, the case of Rasputin in
actuality is a political campaign of Jewry, planned out and executed
with downright devilish genius, a campaign which had its conclusion
just in the night of 18 July 1918 in Ekaterineburg, where the Czar
himself, the Czarina [110] and all their children were bestially
murdered by Jews. Of this final act of the tragedy introduced by the
"Court Jeweler" Simnaovitch we shall still have to speak.
The same Manasse-Manuilov naturally
(1) maintains that Vyrubova
was the sexual slave of Rasputin and that the same was also true of the
Czarina. In noteworthy contrast to this is the statement before the
investigative committee of Vyrubova herself, which very soberly
pointed out (2):
"But above all, you yourselves know, that no woman would have been
prepared to make love with him, why, he was an old man; well, how
old was he? Fifty years, I believe."
From the memoirs of Simanovitch as well as from the evidence of the
investigative committee, and after the elimination of the romantic and
improbable, the following simple fact emerges: Rasputin found himself
in the hands of a clique of Jews and executed their orders in return for
generous rewards.

Simanovitch was in no way his "secretary," but rather his employer.
Besides Simanovitch, who himself emphasizes this several times in his
memoirs, the already mentioned Manassevitch- Manuilov belonged to
it [i.e., the clique of Jews] as a "political agent." Manassavitch was an
agent of the political police and was one of the best-known journalists
of Petersburg. He became secretary to the liberal Minister President
Count Witte, who was known to be married to a Jewess and later also
had connections with Rasputin. During the war, Manassevitch became
"confidential secretary," in reality probably a substantial advisor to the
Minister President Stürmer. Extremely typical is the fact that Stürmer
himself, Minister President of the Empire during the World War, was
of Jewish descent and was appointed Minister President at the
instigation of Rasputin, i.e., at the instigation of the clique of Jews,
Simanovitch & Co.

*cont*


If Manassevitch represented the left hand of Stürmer, then his right
hand was another Jew, Gurland, who after his "conversion" to
Christianity supposedly became one of the most important leaders of
anti-Semitism. In other words, Gurland played the role of a Jewish
provocateur within the Jewry-hostile circles and in public opinion. To
the same clique of Jews around Rasputin at that time belonged the
banker [111] Rubinstein, who later became Court Banker to the
Czarina on the recommendation of Rasputin, and further, the Jewish
attorney Sliosberg, the banker Ginzburg, and several others. A typical
scene is depicted in this passage(1):

"Many outstanding representatives of Jewry were assembled, among
them the Baron Ginzburg, well-known on account of his charitable
donations, attorney-at-law Sliosberg, Leo Brodsky, Gerassim Schalit,
Samuel Gurevitch, Bank Director Mandel, Varshavsky, Poliakov and
several others. By intent, no lawyers besides Sliosberg were summoned
to the conference since Rasputin declared that he wanted to deal with
neither lawyers nor socialists. An exception was made for Sliosberg
because Rasputin had nothing to say against him. He took him to be a
good Jew, whose activities as an attorney didn't matter.
Those present prepared an reception of honor for Rasputin at his arrival
in Ginzburg's salon. Many among them wept. Rasputin was very
moved by these signs of sorrow. He listened attentively to our
complaints about the persecutions of the Jews and promised to set
about doing everything to see that the Jewish Question would yet be
brought to a resolution during his lifetime. He added: 'You must all
help Simanovitch so that he has the possibility of bribing the people on
whom this depends. Do as your fathers did, who even did financial
business with the Czar himself. What has become of you! You no
longer act as the Jews used to do in former times. The Jewish Question must be solved by bribery or cunning. As concerns myself,
you can be entirely at ease. I will grant you every assistance.'"

Rasputin kept his promise. From this point on, the ministers were
appointed and discharged by the clique of Jews around Rasputin.

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That's interesting but according to the documentry posted it was the two royal occultist sisters that brought him in. And he was apparently approved of at first by the Church. But I don't know… Either way, Jews can't just manufacture the power that Rasputin had over women and the court

So he was basically to the Russian royalty what underground sex rings are for the modern elite? I remember reading something about Jews already being in power in Russian court before the revolution, but just switching sides once it started because people were fed up with the ruthless monarchs so they decided to stay in power (and further reinforce it) by riding on the pendulum swing to the left.

Yep. Jews helped corrupt and weaken the Russian court to get entry into it. Then, after subverting it completely, they joined the Bolsheviks in crushing it, as the Bolsheviks were themselves 99% yids.

Great conman

So we again have a recurrent theme of rulers/society falling into degeneracy which ends with destruction of everything and empowers the Jew. It's almost biblical.

It is exactly biblical, or to be more precise, Talmudic. The Jew seeks nothing but destruction of everything non-Jewish, with domination over what remains.

But how exactly do they rationalize this? They like presenting themselves as rational and their religion as the "most sensible" yet their entire identity is built on a very shaky foundations.

A divine mandate. Which they stole from Egypt, ironically. Pharaoh = God. To question a god's right to rule was to invite celestial wrath. Kikes just extrapolated the concept to their entire tribe.
Here's the catch. It is rational and sensible - for them alone. Same as when mudslimes talk about pisslam being "the religion of peace" - it is indeed a religion of peace. Peace for mudslimes only. Everything and everyone beyond is just cattle and trash, to be subjugated and swept aside.
Hence their unique racial psychosis - inferiority complex combined with megalomania. They know they suck. Jews cannot hold a candle to a single civilization, even to African tribes, let alone Greece or Rome. Everything they created were just twisted and corrupted creations of someone else. Their entire culture is parasitic built on theft and appropriation. They know it and are extremely butthurt because of it, but the real kicker is that they are the "chosen people"! How can chosen people suck so much? How can chosen people be worse than anyone else at everything?
From here comes the drive to destroy or corrupt everything else and sit on top of it in absolute dominance, so that no one may mock or challenge them again.

Why was this anchored? It makes no sense. What is Holla Forums suppose to be now?

Because it exposes kikes playing both sides and riding on the pendulum swing, so (((mods))) are shutting it down (oy vey)

Divine mandate is not very rational, or sensible. But yes, they are inferiority complex in the physical form.

It is, for them. It's exactly the kind of solipsism and verbal trickery they love to engage in.


It's an endless cycle.

Because it's not an anime thread

or a meme frog thread

Makes me think of joan of arcs trial.

The french clergy tried trapping her in bizarre religious word games.
One of which was asking her whether she believed herself to be in a state of grace.
Which by christian doctrine was impossible for someone to know cos only god would. She answered something along the lines of "if god wills that I am, I pray he sees fit to keep me there"
Essentially a non-answer that couldn't be responded to in any meaningful way

The sand people religions are all like this though.
It's bizarre and annoying, you don't see it anywhere else.

Thank you based Germaniggers of quality 70s historical music.

Why does Jewtube separate the webm audio and video streams

no intelligent conversation, just pictures of borderline child porn anime girls. fucking mods

It's called pilpul. To borrow the term from our SJW friends, kikesplaining. Spewing drivel that sounds impressive but contains zero substance.

kill yourself

Kill yourselves.

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HOL UP, NIGGA! WHERE YO SAUCES AT?!
Just imagine what everyone will say about you nearly a hundred years after your death. "30e25f routinely smoked big black cocks in aryan coal burning orgies while worshiping kikes."
This is where sources come into play. What literature sources are you deriving this information because unfortunately, when examining literature related to a controversial person who arrived in time for a jew transition to power in a region, we have to be sure that the information we're using to derive our opinions doesn't inadvertently come from the jew or someone with a vested interest in pinning a person to a jew.

(((1)))

Fuck off you kike.

Fascinating.
More?

I sometimes wonder what will the history holo-books will say about clips like these.