About ten years ago I was a hikikomori, downloading all kinds of shit through eMule, including CP just to see what was up with it. Never really gave me the hots except boys with older women but it was there and I thought why not.
My idiot teen self didn't care enough to update eMule, so I ended up connecting to "spy servers" set up by Spain in a EU-wide sting operation (I think) and so I got busted. This resulted in a 5 year long trial plus three years probation, including having to deal with social services, psychologists and all their ilk, which I now consider charlatans at best and psychopaths at worst. This destroyed what was left of my family, drove my mother further into craziness and my father into isolation. They separated a couple years into the ordeal.
I had to be home by 10pm every day, therefore I received police visits in the middle of the night to check if I was home. I couldn't move outside my province without permission, which was to be given pretty much exclusively for work reasons, and I had to go to the local police to sign a paper each week, to confirm I hadn't in fact ran away. I always thought of myself as an upstanding, law abiding citizen. I never wanted to hurt anybody, steal anything or whatever. I thought the people who were caught up in the legal system in the end deserved it all. I had never considered for a moment that somebody, the state for instance, could inflict this much pain on me because I had downloaded some shit off the Internet, hurting nobody and without even moving from home.
I felt like I had leper. I carried my shame with me every day and hated the people who subjected me to that amount of pain. The judge had the ability to renew the probation ad infinitum, therefore after failing the goals I'd set for myself with social service parasite workers I just didn't care anymore and started contemplating suicide.
Now, what does this have to do with the idiot OP? The bullshit I went through got me thinking. I had, in fact, committed a crime. This makes me a criminal. However I still think to this day that I had done nothing wrong, or nothing that warranted any worse than a slap on the wrist.
tl;dr: Law and your inner moral compass, though they might be often aligned, are not the same thing.
If you think abiding by the law is your utmost virtue, you might suffer from "good boy mentality", where you forego your moral judgement and instead trust authority to judge and reward you for abiding by its laws. Some times you might want to do something that's illegal but it's right, like shooting the home intruder before it hurts you or your family, and some times you might want to do something that's legal but profoundly wrong, like divorce rape your husband because you're sexually frustrated or allow your teenage son to change sex because he feels off.
Illegal behavior is not necessarily wrong behavior. Though they ought to be the same thing, they're not. The more states get corrupted by cultural marxists and their ilk, the more law and morality will start to diverge.
The only way to make morality and law whole again is a cultural shift, hence memes.
I originally typed this as a reply to a shillthread that was deleted, this is my first thread on Holla Forums after almost a couple years of lurking. Merry Christmas, faggots.
Sorry to hear that OP, but I'm not sure what's the purpose of the thread. The law, morality? Or just to post?
did they remove you from it though?
Isaiah Thomas
Fuck moralfags. :^)
Daniel Gutierrez
tl;dr
Cameron Gray
So basically you're a disgusting pedophile and salty that you got fucked up by the legal system as much as you did. Get gassed, kiddydiddler.
Ryan Allen
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Sebastian Lee
I think it's just to discuss laws and morality.
Jaxson Flores
He appears to be laying bare his plight, a plight that most ex-Holla Forums tards could have been subjected to. A quandary that echos other miscarriages of moral authority, that equates digitized information with intent to act or equivalance with physical action. Mp3 files, cartoon kiddies, corrupt politician emails, inverse opinions to women. These can land one in jail as though you were selling stolen CDs, molesting children, breaking into political offices and planting evidence, and assaulting persons.
Jacob Butler
Let's do an EU wide sting on the cucks and race mixing propaganda instead.
Cooper Barnes
Actually relook op's story, you idiots. Imagine if you get jailed for sitting on Holla Forums. Or your country banning fictional 2d loli as CP, like russia does.
Le "all jews deserve to die" faggots all can go to jail just like op, seriously. Even in Trump's america.
Angel Ross
You're a fuckind pedophile. Stop trying to excuse your repulsive behavior. You should've killed yourself, you degenerate fuck.
It isn't CP, but it still promotes degenerate behavior.
Easton Long
3DPD CP and 2D loli are not the same thing. They're not even similar. It's like trying to say watching snuff videos is the same thing as playing Call of Duty.
Logan Lewis
You did fuck up by downloading CP. Being honest, the fact you're apparently blase about child pornography and treat it as a matter of curiosity is itself a little eyebrow raising. But the wider point about law and morality being two overlapping but different domains, and diverging more and more when society becomes decadent, is correct imo. I can remember Pat Condell saying that the justice system, through all its wrangling and technicalites and sometimes selective standards only delivers "legal outcomes", which is quite different to "justice".
Blake Taylor
No one cares about your blog.
Luke Gonzalez
For all those pedos out there, just remember, every time you want to masturbate to real shit - you provide customers to market of pedos who enslave stolen children and force them to get raped. If there's a And in the end - to your end game boss enemies like Podesta, Soros, Jews, Muslim Nobility and Rothchilds who own that slave market. Where there is demand, there will be supply.
Bentley Anderson
I heard weed funds terrorism too
Gavin Young
Of course they do. First europeans become fans of japanese culture and dress up like samurai, then europeans become fans of jihad and dress up in hijab, welcoming refugees.
Luke James
He's right though. Every time you look at a picture or a video of 3D children, the producer knows you looked at it and wants to produce more. They are breaking the law and risking getting raped in jail because people want to see it, not because they are selfish pedo fucks who want to rape children.
Ryder Nguyen
Okay, nigger. Who, exactly, would be producing child pornography except pedophiles harming children? Granted, it's not always kidnappers, but that doesn't make it any less of a child abuse case.
Luke Nguyen
But you break the fucking law by downloading CP
"I was a good sheep!"
So you enjoyed your legal enslavement system?
You was too lazy to read a "Sacred book of threats and punishmets" and still think you law abiding citizen, who don't read the laws?
Law is not about "not hurting anybody", but about obedience and doing what your masters told.
As "law abiding citizen" you part of these people.
Kevin Smith
Not everyone lives in a police state like the US. Those videos are made without risk or consequences Russia is the CP capital of the world and they ban pornhub. The producers are at little risk and you believing your individual makes a difference on the global market is about is naive as believing your vote makes a difference in the national election. Hell you are at the most risk already as a consumer assuming you live in a feminist run country.
Jace Gutierrez
You know, you aren't too far from becoming op by sitting here in NSA shell.
Henry Evans
that's why people not rely on their moral compass, but hiring a lawyer for laws… and a priest for morality.
Christopher Watson
In the new society we will build, people like you will be shot.
Oliver Cox
Nobody will be with guns to shoot op, since all Holla Forumsacks will be sitting in jail for screaming about how much they want to kill kikes :^)
Xavier Flores
OP says he "law abiding citizen" but don't care about reading laws and obey it.
Kevin Bennett
Except cp is the result of child abuse, which goes against both law and most moral compasses.
No shit, but your CP example is shit.
Tyler Butler
So you admit you are a pedo. Is it supposed to be fine if it's a boy you sick fuck? Also "never really gave me the hots"? Sure faggot, is that supposed to mean you only jerked it a few times as opposed to a lot? Don't try and sugarcoat your depravity and veil it in a discussion about morals. Kill yourself.
Nolan Gray
If your "laws" are so perfect, why this guy isn't in jail?
Jacob White
Because the law only matters when it's enforced.
Josiah Torres
The real crime wasn't downloading it. They don't come after you in that case. They fine you and put you on a list. They punished you because you seeded the stuff. Also, a teen liking hussyfan would be forgivable, but if you were late teen, nobody looks at you like a good member of society. There are many laws that are cucked, but your case was fair game.
Henry Jenkins
He didn't actually diddle kiddies.
Unfortunate as it is.
Does this imply a need to "reset" the legal system?
Not really. The producer needs to be paid for there to be incentive to produce more. If the guys is just downloading for free it's unlikely he is known to the producer.
I think you mean "the law only matters if you're poor"
Camden Perry
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Jaxson Gonzalez
I actually hold some respect for op that he survived this hell, and managed to return to boards, and especially Holla Forums. People completely break when they get jailed for some huge shit like this.
He now has unique experience with insides of his country's legal system, and can use it to his advantage. Gotta start loving big boobies though.
Most people here on Holla Forums have zero experience with justice system since they honestly believe that police will always be on their side.
Thomas Baker
Why is the legal system of a country not taught in Highschool? Or even the Government System? There seems to be a lot of ignorance of these systems in the average citizen until he's forced to meet them face to face.
I will admit that I had no idea of the American system of Government until this election. The idea tha America is actually a Republic was unknown to me.
Aiden Watson
Despite me saying he fucked up, I do too and can relate to his feeling that online is a twilight zone that isn't quite real life. Must be absolute shit when you do something online and find your life chewed up in the gears of the "legal system". OTOH I can't help feeling they wouldn't have came down so hard if he wasn't on a substantial amount of CP. I've seen CP myself - you can click a regular-looking URL on Omegle and end up on CP. Probably they only go after you if you've explicitly searched for it and/or downloaded/seeded a bunch of it.
Seriously, I just think of the Enclave in Fallout. You're dealing with institutions that are cold to everything outside themselves and their authority. Your life is something to be processed according to their priorities and if you feel like you've been dropped in a shambles afterwards, so much the worse for you.
Ayden Carter
No, we don't believe that, faggot. We're just not childfuckers. Sage the thread.
William Thomas
He's a fucking pedo which means he wants to muh dik kids. I don't buy his "lol I was just curious :333" excuse for a fucking second.
Robert Russell
You may not buy it, but it seems reasonable to me. Curiosity gets the best of us sometimes,
Jaxon Jackson
were going to hang you you fat fuck
Nolan Carter
you don't download child pornography out of "curiosity", you fucktard.
Juan Wright
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Chase Edwards
If laws dont reflect correct morality then they need to be fixed. As for your case you deserve everything you got since you create a wider market for the manufacturing of cp. Just because you think you didnn do nuffin doesn't mean shit when you are actively hurting people. Changing laws so you can indulge in your fucked up fetishes is possibly the most degenerate thing you could possibly do.
Angel Fisher
So what about watching a video of decapitation?
Same as enabling those who decapitate?
Isaiah Ward
Fuck all of those people you listed. I think they deserve the Day of the Rope. People need to treat lolis with love, kindness and respect
t. hebe
Carson Robinson
You do when you're a kid. When I was a middle school Holla Forumstard I downloaded some from limewire. My mom freaked out and my stepdad beat me up.
Joshua Collins
kys faggot dont care about your life >>>/christian/ >>>/4chan/
Henry Peterson
Pirating CP doesn't make a wider market for it. Buying it does.
Alexander Perry
Have a seat
People get arrested for simply downloading all the time. At least in the US they do. Maybe they're just the dummies who do that with bare IPs?
Teens?
Easton Rodriguez
OP is a psychopath himself
Mason Powell
You are not a 'criminal' but a victim of a maritime law taxation and money making scheme.
Why didn't you try to hack a bank though? Port is degenerate, cheese pizza more so. But it's like drugs, more an excuse and a tax scheme than anything.
tl;dr use your neighbours WiFi next time
Joseph Price
Cuckchan is the other way Shlomo.
Jonathan Anderson
Silly 'blame the consumer' sophistry but in this case I don't care.
Alexander Fisher
>>>/polblog/
Jaxson Cook
Teens and some prepubescent (as in 9-11, basically). But in general I'm a hebe.
Blake Torres
STOP BUMPING THE PEDOPHILE BLOGPOST.
Christopher Hughes
What isnit with these fucking christian shills here? They constantly attack our board and then bitch and moan how they were all bad people.
They still fucking are, thats why they became christians. Thats why they attack any form of healthy spirituality on the board.
Besides, deus vult'ers are LARPing as crusaders for the jews masonic WW3. They have nothing to do with pol or its culture.
These peolle were bad for our movement before and theyre bad for our movement now. Theyre just shitbags whove always done this sort of shit.
Cameron Nguyen
You are close to final pill OP, the Stirner pill. Go down the rabbit hole.
Christian Hernandez
I do appreciate your honesty, though
Jeremiah Long
Lel I'm not a Muslim if that's what you're saying.
Jacob Gutierrez
Nope. It's just a funny reaction image
Levi Nelson
There was nothing moral about your actions you whiny fag. Seeking out and sharing media of children being raped isn't being a bystander, you helped perpetuate other pedophiles' sick hobby and rewarded them with attention, as if you were cheering them on encouraging the crime. (even being a bystander is immoral too btw if you do nothing to stop it, even if it's not illegal) You purposely wanted to fill your mind with visions of real child abuse - degenerate as fuck, you can't kill yourself soon enough faggot.
Bentley Allen
Yeah, they did remove me from it. Pretty sure I've got a clean record too. I'm also kinda piecing my family back together. I've seen many mention in Kek threads they felt a "wave" of energy back in 2015, I felt it too, that's when I started slowly coming back to life and browsing here every day.
I figured I'd get something out of a shit thread who advocated criminal behavior on the basis of reproductive chances by pointing out something few realize: laws can be wrong and you don't have to be a pot smoker to get fucked by the government and end up in a horrible place even if you dindu nuffin. Took some time to type all that, didn't want to let it go to waste.
As I thought, this place is rife with good boys, let them yap as they wait for their treat.
Not gonna tell you my exact age at the time I got busted, but I wasn't older than 16.
But I do goddamnit.
I'd deleted the vast majority of the stuff a few weeks before precisely because it was just sitting on my disk for nothing. What I hadn't deleted were maybe a couple videos and no more than 20 pictures, probably a mix of teens I did fap to and creepy stuff.
Gee, it must suck being dumb.
I really, really enjoy watching war videos. Are you idiots going to say that I encourage wars as well?
Angel Gonzalez
You're that guy, trolling Holla Forums
Mason Gonzalez
Criminalizing thoughtcrime means that all CP is exposed, so anyone who would release proof of pizzagate would go to prison, while the actual offenders go free.
There are a lot of bad laws.
Elijah Jenkins
You're being a useful idiot for the jews, and you don't even know it. Information is a weapon, and we should have access to all information. I don't care if it hurts your feelings, but we cannot defeat the jew if we are handicapped.
Colton Martinez
b4uact.org
Matthew Howard
ow, the edge
Ryan Anderson
The victims didn't consent to the abuse, didn't consent to the pictures and didn't consent to the distribution. You have no regard for the child sex slaves at all, you come here practically cheerleading for the sharing of child porn and you expect anyone to believe you care about morals?
Hurry up and accept the fact that the only moral course of action for untermensch like you is death.
Fuck off kike.
Noah Johnson
sounds about right. reported.
Grayson Adams
The admins on Holla Forums always ignore reports, how about alerting the Center for Exploited Children.
Ryder Perez
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Luke Jackson
I never did that because I knew that shit was illegal and wrong.
Well aren't you a dirty little rat.
Kayden Foster
Can you report the threads on Holla Forums?
Bentley Collins
Also wanted to share this video, it encapsulates precisely what I went through and why. The judge, for example, identified the cause of my erratic behavior in being a hikky in the first place, therefore had the power to renew probation for so long as she pleased because I'd failed to provide a credible plan for getting an education or a job. In short, I hadn't been cured. I wasn't being punished by inflicting on me the same amount of pain I'd inflicted on others after explaining why and how what I did caused suffering, so as to truly learn and realize the error of my ways. Oh no, that would be barbaric!
Instead, I was being reeducated. Pain was never a factor, I was diseased! Therefore I could be subjected to any amount of pain and any length of "detention", so long as I was "dangerous" to society.
That's also the point of the thread, where do you draw the line for censorship? What information is good and what is not? What amount of censorship are we willing to tolerate?
The moment they really start thought policing and censoring, and that would be close if it wasn't for Trump, they will use the argument of terrorism AND pedoshit, mark my words.
Michael Ross
>>>/Reddit/
Kevin Jackson
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Jayden Gomez
ICMEC directors include Laura Silsby/Gayler, Haitian child trafficker who was let of the hook by Clinton, who arranged a pedophile Jew from Honduras as her defense lawyer, Jeff Koons, whose girlfriend accused him of abusing his daughter and then conveniently "fled to Italy and didn't speak afterwards", and Richard Windsor, a billionaire whose private island is just a 5 minute boat/helicopter ride away from Epstein's rape island. ICMEC and a number of other childrens charities are just a front for pedo's and molochcunts to hide in plain sight and get intel on their escaped Monarch/Ritual Abuse slaves, it won't help, neither will FBI. When enough powerful people are implicated prosecution is not an option and you have to rely on citizen investigators and others to get the word out and those people are either suicided if it doesn't bring to much attention or subject to every disinformation and nasty Stasi tactic in the book if they gain any traction and assassination isn't an option. Fuck Moloch and fuck this gay planet. Also OP should die in a fire.
Nathan Sanchez
Fucking sweaty degenerate pedo faggots, get off your computers u fucking fatties, fuck real girls u fucking scum, u are all a shame to our movement
Aiden Cook
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Dominic Turner
OP already was sentenced and is propably in EU, idiot.
Leo Young
You must be a kike OP, you lack European conscious
Zachary Anderson
I had the same thing happen to me when I was 15, because I posted it on kikebook, I was suffering from delirium which is similar to dementia (only non-fatal) and caused me to be unable to feel my emotions, time went extremely fast, short term memory loss, etc.
Morality is being told what is right and wrong, ethics is knowing from within what is right and wrong. Pornography is degenerate regardless of the age of the subjects, but so long as you feel guilt after masturbating, you can redeem yourself. Sex is degenerate if you don't plan on staying with the female you have sex with and having children with her. Aryan girls can conceive children roughly around 14 (menarche/the peak of female attractiveness), and first become attractive to healthy males during puberty (around 10). Who invented age of consent laws? Jewish feminists in the late 1800s/early 1900s. By increasing female power (making it so that men must have sex with increasingly older women as time goes on, ugly women can have sex with those out of their league, etc.) the kikes knew they would gain more control, because people led by their base desires are the easiest to control. Older women know they can't compete with young girls, so how do they compensate? By becoming whores that are good at pleasing men in a purely sexual manner. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assemblywomen
tl;dr: CP is wrong, as is all porn. Marrying a 14 year old is fine if you are going to have children with her. Marrying a girl younger than 14 is fine so long as you plan on having children of her once she's of age. They key to understanding this is realising the hypocrisy of people today on this matter, especially older women. Mothers will let their young girls watch jersey shore, the kardashians, MTV, and other disgusting filth on TV, corrupting their minds - yet won't let them marry. Most parents don't monitor their children, and I grew up (as I'm sure most here did) being exposed to furries, emos, and other freaks on the internet. When I was around 12, I even had a grossly overweight emo woman (who had a husband) try to make sexual advances on me, despite knowing my age. So why do parents, for example, tend to push the whole "you can't have children until your 20s" thing on their children? For fathers, they don't want to be considered "pedophile enablers", despite the fact that pedophilia is the exclusive or primary attraction to girls around 9 and under. For most men, this is one of their greatest fears - being labeled a "pedophile". For women? They're fucking jealous, old hags especially. Throughout all history, before the late 1800s I can only think of two instances of age of consent laws - one was in China, where the age of consent was 12 to control birth rates which were too high at the time. The other was in England, I believe due to the puritanical Christian view at the time.
Cooper Gutierrez
Oh, and I'd like to add that they let me off with a warning because of my age at the time.
Henry Garcia
malum in se malum prohibitum
you should learn the difference you should understand what crimes actually are… and aren't
Easton Campbell
You posted Cheese Pizza on facebook?
uh…
Sebastian Bailey
I may be mistaken about the birth rates thing, but that is how I remember it. There are a decent amount of girls who can bear children before 12, and the youngest known female to give birth was only aged 6 (I don't approve of this).
Christian Fisher
cp is cp. You got off easy, scumbag.
Carson Ross
It's what happened in England that caused the USA to change its own laws, as I understand it. I forget the name of the book, but children were being used as prostitutes in England and there was a book that exposed it, leading to changes in the laws, here and there.
"In the United States in the 1890s, several states had an age of consent as low as 10. In 1895, the age of consent in Delaware was 7, according to an article in The New York Times. However, the "social purity movement" and other [woman-led] reform groups began advocating a raise in the age of consent to 16, wanting to raise it ultimately to 18, and by 1920 almost all states had raised their age of consent to 16 or 18."
pic very related
Kayden Allen
Was prostitution illegal when they introduced the AOC laws in England? It seems kind of pointless to me, when the source of the problem was prostitution (although it is especially upsetting when girls become prostitutes at a young age, this much is true).
Jace Ortiz
OP is a faggot but he raises a good point. This is the current state of corrections in the west and it's fucking psychotic. They can do this shit to anyone because of kike's out psychiatry laws, OP actually is a criminal but many innocents are targeted by this. For instance, I lived in a drug den for a while and the police tried to frame me as a nutcase or accomplice(which I wasn't, I did my part and reported his dealings to the FBI and yet I still got fucked with by narcs educated in zerzetsung tactics) to get to the drug dealer I lived with. I was still gaslit for several years though, look into the "american STASI" One guy really sucked at it and I got him to admit he was a homeless narc after he tried to buy pot off me and I bitched him out for barking up the wrong tree. No it wasn't - that's a common misconception because they're german and "bad" STASI was east berliner commies and is still active within the USA and many pozzed western countries.
Brody Diaz
ages dont tell you much when you look at different times in history. china was probably in poverty and people age quicker in poverty.
AOC laws are stupid, it should be based on physical development (maybe test things like hip width, breast size, first period etc)
Lincoln Robinson
You are completely and utterly fucking wrong. There are very few who can do it before 15, and physical development doesn’t stop until 18.
Josiah Turner
Here’s the problem with that. ALL NON-WHITES MUST BE REMOVED FROM SOCIETY FIRST We cannot change AOC laws before we have white ethnostates again. Niggers enter puberty at 9. They’re “mature” earlier and their pregnancies last a week less than whites, because they’re a different species. Changing AOC laws to be measured AS THEY SHOULD BE universally lowers it for them and causes an increase in nigger babies.
Kevin Sanchez
How can someone call themself redpilled if they can't understand that morality is objective?
Andrew Collins
Becoming the Overman = rising above slave morality.
Julian Davis
I'm no expert but it doesn't look like prostitution was ever made illegal. They merely cracked down on it. UK pic related
This, 100%
Josiah Jackson
Yes of course this is a given. personally i am against AOC laws (because fornication is degenerate) and it instead should be changed to an age of marriage law (which would include sex).
Angel Stewart
I think we can all agree that raping children is wrong. I don't see anyone but trolls thinking that is ok.
What I'm curious about, is how you guys feel about underage self taken webcam videos. Still undeniably CP, but no rape takes place and it's obviously done with consent as there is only one person involved.
Personally I see nothing wrong with these types of videos, but I also see the potential for coercing kids into getting in front of a camera and touching themselves.
Christian Bennett
The real shame is that parent's either don't' care, or they simply don't know their children are doing it.
These kids shouldn't be doing it in the first place. Then again, just look to the (((entertainment))) industry to see what kind of "culture" these kids are imbibing.
Liam Peterson
I agree that the responsibility falls to the parents watching their kids and NOT giving them access to the internet at a young age. The topic I was more focusing on is the legal aspect. Should people be punished and put in prison for watching videos made with total consent, just for parents not raising their kids properly?
I feel like this is a very gray legal area and I'm quite conflicted on it myself. On the one hand, the kid/teen in the video is obviously enjoying itself, on the other hand they don't realize the potential consequences for doing such things.
Gabriel Ward
Thanks for clearing that up for me.
As for the rest of the post, I now generally agree with you. Furthermore, I think of the guilt you feel from masturbating as a consequence of treating sex like a drug, devoid of purpose or responsibility. Essentially divorcing pleasure from purpose.
It's not so much biological age that should be a factor, as long as sexual maturity is reached by all parties, but moral maturity. In an ideal world a father would realize his daughter's becoming a woman and would allow her to marry. This is not that world, anymore.
Glad to hear you don't live in a retarded country.
I've been a nihilist, yo. Tell me you've never done degenerate shit, come on, enlighten me with your purity. The point is that everybody is a sinner, or to phrase it differently everybody is far from Truth. The thing is realizing this and seeking Truth.
There's deus larping and there's being fascinated with the medieval knight. Blind faith coming from deep knowledge of right and wrong is something I'd like to possess. I imagine it would feel like love, each thought and action focused on a single point, that being the best possible thing you can achieve with your life.
Allow me to shill some more for this video series, it's that good.
Isaac Williams
woah…so this is the power of Holla Forums
Mason Anderson
Good message but your saying that we should just let pedos get off with a slap on the wrist. Pedos shouldn't have access to CP even the "nice" ones, you got restricted so harshly because they didn't want a pedo on the loose.
Bentley Walker
There are quite a few European countries that have the age of consent law set at 14. Meanwhile, age of consent is typically lower than the marriageable age, which is freaking retarded. I'll probably earn some money and find myself a 14 year old virgin in one of those countries, likely a poor one where there are more pure/virginal girls, property is cheap, and most folk are white.
No, it's a very retarded country - I live in New Zealand, the first country to give women the vote.
Austin Gomez
if it helps most of these girls getting naked on cam have started puberty and are definitely interested in boys.
i see the problem as 3-fold
1. parents dont care what their kids are doing 2. girls are being told that they are nothing but their bodies 3. sexualization of children (linked to point 2)
the attention whoring behavior of women and girls is natural, unfortunately they are seeking out this attention using bad methods. the reason these girls are getting naked on cam, especially this young, is because attention whoring is how girls are able to ascertain their value to the world (read: to the opposite sex). unfortunately they have been told this value ONLY comes from their sex appeal and nothing more such as femininity, submissiveness, modesty, etc.
one more point to make: from what ive heard on the chans, a lot of these girls use sites like younow to get this attention. problem: these sites are fucking full to the brim of SHITSKINS. shitskins who dont care about these girls and shitskins who dont care for feminist propaganda or aoc laws. they are acting like MEN (albeit subhuman).
young white girls who are interested in the opposite sex are not getting this attention they need from white men because we are too CUCKED (from feminist brainwashing and pedo-hysteria). and so they are turning to other races to fulfill this need. (and yes girls DO need attention and praise from men, as a matter of mental health).
Jason Jenkins
Some laws are universal no matter what form of government you live under unless it's completely degenerate. Protection of children is one of them. So your moral compass should align with it no matter what. Unless you're a degenerate idiot.
Also your claim that "no one got hurt" is absolute bullshit. The kids on the content you were watching were hurt by you and all other morons creating the demand for it.
You should hang for your crime OP.
Henry Murphy
Your assessment is fair, but you failed to address the legal aspect like the last user. Because these girls need the attention and are interested in boys/men, and on top of that are enjoying the act with full consent, should there be legal repercussions for viewing such material?
Justin Walker
CP is degenerate as hell, but that's not an argument. Arguing like that only polarizes people who are sympathetic towards CP and pedophilia by using blatant emotional appeal and low-quality shame tactics. "But what about if they concent" "But what about this" "You're assuming this" Blah blah fucking blah. It's all the same back-and-forth emotional appeal with no real development in the conversation, and nobody walks away convinced.
TL;DR Lurk more until you learn how to not sound like an autistic sperg, and actually learn to argue.
Anthony Gonzalez
its a tough one. if you could guarantee the girl wasn't being compelled in any way then there's probably no problem with viewing (im talking about an active stream that is happening in real time).
i dont think saving the stream or distributing the recording would be moral so i think that part should be illegal… getting naked privately for someone shouldnt be allowed to be blasted to the world.
if you find some 13 year old who likes showing her body off to you on cam then great for you i guess. just dont act like a nigger and start sending copies to your nigger friends to jack off their nigger dicks to.
Owen Jackson
I think it would be reasonable to outlaw the production and sale of such videos. Adolesants are easy to mold, and so they need to be encouraged, or in this case, discouraged, from partaking in the recording of sexual explicit behaviors.
Why is this important? People are always having their beliefs and emotional responses to sexuality and social interaction developed during those early years. Statistically, the earlier a person loses their virginity, the more likely they are to become sexually promiscuous (which I don't think I need to explain why is degenerate). Partaking in sexually explicit behaviors and recording them conditions a person to judge themselves and others on pure physicality, alone, as beliefs and strong moral character aren't typically thought about when watching yourself masturbate. In developing that associating of pure physicality with sexual acts and the immediate pleasures of masturbation, the participant risks desensitizing themselves to sexuality, thus increasing the likelihood that they will seek out the immediate pleasures found in masturbation, but accessing it in the ways evolution intended (sex), and without the traditional restraints of moral character or courtship, they will be at a much higher risk for sexual promiscuity.
Daniel Howard
those sites have chats, they're almost always pressuring them.
Blake Green
By that logic, should revenge nudes also be illegal to distribute? It's essentially the same thing, an element of trust is broken but ultimately no physical harm is being done. Mental harm, possibly, but that once again goes back to being the fault of the parents for allowing their children to get online in the first place.
Luke Martin
That happened to a friend of mine. He was 18, his gf 17. The story ended happily, because the judge and prosecutor were lenient when the girl's parents came in and said "Hey, it's alright, they're engaged".
Now their married and have kids.
Adam Young
that's what you get for living in a country where thought-crimes are a thing.
you can't even jerk off in peace if the thought police find out that you're jerking off to the wrong things
Adam Powell
Your argument is sound, and I see how it can be dangerous for a child to condition itself to deem how attractive they are as the most important aspect of their worth as a person. However, that being said, I'm not convinced that outlawing underage cam or selfies is the correct course of action. Random fappers should not be punished with prison time for the failings of bad parents. I can agree with a fine, or perhaps even a misdemeanor, but jail or prison is simply ridiculous for viewing a nude, or a fully consensual act from a sexually mature person, male or female.
David Adams
yes those sites are degenerate (i was talking mainly 1 on 1 skype chat or something between a bf or gf even if its only an online relationship).
what we really need is a culture change. a lot of these laws only mask the problem they dont fix the root.
tbh in an ideal world i would make this illegal too. unfortunately we live in a shitshow where women and men are complete degenerates and the sexes actually hate each other this much.
why are men such beta fags they have to get back at women by leaking nudes? why are women such frivolous whores that stomping on a mans heart comes as naturally as taking a piss?
"revenge porn" shouldnt be a problem to begin with.
Andrew Powell
It really is hard to say whether revenge porn should be illegal or not. I am on the side of it being legal, because I value personal responsibility above all. If you choose to take a nude photo, you should take responsibility for that, regardless of who you send it to. The risk is known, or at least it should be known, that the photo you took could end up in different hands than you intended, just by virtue of trusting someone other than yourself.
Leo Gutierrez
Considering the nature of the crime being underage, it makes sense to fine the parents (because a hit to the wallet is the best way to encourage someone) and to give the child a misdemeanor. On a side note, I certainly don't think it would be a good use of any legal resources to enforce this law outside of convenience, in the sense that I don't think law enforcement should waste resources tracking the recordings on kids computers and phones to find them recording themselves distributing free literature. Only if it gets out should it become a legal issue, and the law will exist to deter kids from doing it in the first place, and deter parents from allowing that sort of behavior.
Evan Rodriguez
that's the most bluepilled shit i've read all week.
this board is based on piles of false conceptions upon false conceptions handicrafted out of fear for authority and topped with a cherry of hipocrisy.
morality is subjective, behavior is subjective, the only objective thing humans have is instinct, and your instinct tells you to fuck little girls, you deny it because you are afraid of the consequences upon yourself that were put in place with the "authority", which is based on subjective morals whose base is raw power.
the "authority" has the power to make you do whatever they want, you're nothing but a bluepilled fool if you think things like "justice" are something objective.
Colton Baker
Agreed. This is where I get stuck. The punishment currently for viewing a video like that doesn't fit the crime. Do you think a misdemeanor would be appropriate for downloading underage cam/selfies? In my opinion it should be a fine for owning/downloading, a misdemeanor for distribution.
Carter Hughes
I think I see the disconnect. I think it should be a legal issue to produce such a video, but to view or download it, I don't think does any harm greater than that of regular pornography. Lets say a high school boy downloads a picture of a classmate naked, for instance. Given that they actively sought to acquire it, they are probably sexualizing that person anyway, and the addition of sexually explicit photographs or videos probably wouldn't affect that. And any person who doesn't sexualize their peer, likely won't search out the content in the first place. And if they accidentally find it, then it was an accident. No bad intent nor harm done, so no punishment seems necessary. For those reasons, I don't see why anyone downloading that kind of context would necessitate legal punishment, but any distributors should be held liable for the sake of the kid's privacy and to prevent the normalization of sexualizing underage adolescents.
Jacob Ward
Nah bro, you got what you deserved.
Evan Barnes
There's no limit to information. The second you limit yourself, you make yourself vulnerable. Information is weaponry. You should never, ever limit your access to weaponry.
Cameron Cruz
Not an argument.
Nicholas Morales
deus vult
Gavin Scott
Even the majority of normalfags recognise that law and morality are not the same thing. This belief is usually shed before you reach high school.
Cool blog post, though. Sure glad my fetish is fully legal, and that I'm not a fucking retard that doesn't realise that fucking CP is illegal.
Joseph Ross
Should have told them you are muslim. A simple noble savage can do no wrong.