LP member who managed to slip through da purge at HQ and rejoin last year. We need you all here to turn the tables and take control of the party for good after Corbyn wins again. Power struggle in the party is too much of a dead heat to actually implement the policies in Labour that the radical left in the UK want to see.
Is it true that the Labour right-wing really hates Trotskyists more than other commies?
did you get kicked out for being a Trot?
Matthew Allen
I wouldn't call myself a Trot, but I got kicked out in the 90s for sympathising with them.
And they do. Simply because the Trotskyists had an organised, efficient entryist tactic that to an extent in the early 80s, was working. They had a grip on the party and the Labour right hated it. Most of the rest of the far-left were harmless to the Labour right, it was the Trots who were causing real trouble for them.
Bumping for the most left wing movement the UK has seen since the 1980s.
If Corbyn happens, it marks the beginning of something huge in Europe and the world.
Brayden Sullivan
What do you brits think about Attlee? Is he still somewhat of a important figure in the political field, even if only inside the LP, or not?
Seriously curious.
Nicholas Watson
The right wing of the party just uses the word "Trot" to describe anyone joining the party with the hope of influencing it in a left direction. Because God forbid people should engage in political parties to try and have their views heard, bloody democracy fucking things up for the establishment.
Hunter Stewart
I think too much time has passed for him to be genuinely important to the LP today, although his legacy is still foundational in some respects in people's understanding of what the LP is and what it should stand for.
In the same way maybe as the founding fathers in the US are used as ideological benchmarks or foundations, yet obviously politics has moved a long way since those principles carried weight in the actual establishment
Asher Cooper
He was a nationalist on a level that probably makes Corbynites a bit uneasy
David Johnson
Their spirit lives on: not just their spirit but lots of their old membership, their ideas and their praxis.
Its happening, Smith can't do it. Corbyn will win.
Landon Jenkins
awful bait
Andrew Collins
Oh yeah, Corbyn is definitely going to win. Smith is a terrible candidate, and the majority of the membership never really got on board with this thick as shit coup in the first place.
The question is how to solidify the left's position in the party. We're still vastly outnumbered by either right-wingers who will do anything to undermine the leadership, or spineless centre-left careerist MPs who always go back to the Blairites cap in hand when the going gets tough.
Need to push through mandatory reselection, create a federal system where the SP (ex Militant) can join but keep their organisation, in a similar way to what the Co-Op party do right now with Labour.
We're not going to win in 2020, no Labour leader could - so we need to use it to make a few gains here and there and clear out the 30/40 agitators in the PLP so we can apply a whip with some effectiveness.
Pic - Corbyn rally a fortnight ago in the valleys of Wales. Awesome.
Sebastian Green
I've not joined, having been of the opinion that Corbyn was going to get removed at the first opportunity and having spotted that plebbit feminists are supporting him (if they like him, that's a bad sign).
If he survives the coup, I'm open to being persuaded.
Eli Kelly
Wait, you're actually saying that just because people you disagree with on x think y, y must necessarily be wrong? Failing to see your logic, comrade. Hardly a helpful approach to building a socialist movement. If people who disagree are coming together around his ideas, this is a positive sign; idpol is failing, feminists and socialists alike are supporting the same end goal, which is exactly what we want - the opposite of a divided working class
Daniel Harris
united socialist soviet republics of britain when?
Camden Brooks
kys tbqh fam
Henry Roberts
No. Not necessarily. It simply makes me highly suspicious that such an action is truly in my interests and want a far larger quantity of evidence to convince me.
Cameron Johnson
Not an argument.
Brandon Morris
Oh, for fuck's sake. I was browsing dumblr for porn when the whole coup debacle started, and decided to look at the Corbyn tag on a whim. A significant majority of the posts were assblasted feminists criticizing him and praising JK Rowling for tweeting retarded things about him.
Xavier Johnson
Can you show me that, please?
Cooper Jenkins
yeah this is actually right.
The feminists who support Corbyn are ones we'd actually want in our movement, those who aren't are parroting the likes of Jess Phillips and JK Rowling.
Aiden Gutierrez
Consider suicide, reactionary.
Jordan Foster
Hi Reddit.
Evan Young
I don't even go on reddit fam
Jason Price
How many people in the party are this based?
Gabriel Fisher
I see. The people you receive your opinions from are the redditors.
Levi Roberts
k
Liam Carter
You know that quote is actually from Marx, right?
It's not liberalism to recognise that men and women should be treated equally in society. Feminism has been stretched and mauled into liberalism today, but the underlying core principle of gender equality in the political, economic and legal spheres is a socialist principle and always has been.
Isaac Walker
This.
It is telling though that Clinton and liberals want people to "recognize muh privilege" and "practice humility" rather than actually do anything to restructure the economy so those inequalities don't exist in the first place.
It's why political correctness as just "using the correct terminology" is bad. It's just dressing up the evils of capitalism and apologizing for capitalism without actually doing anything.
Robert Williams
No thanks.
Grayson Torres
Have you ever thought about actually reading posts?
Justin Flores
I don't want anything calling itself that label, thank you.
