I was watching a John Denver talk...

I was watching a John Denver talk, 1980 in Aspen when he said and did some things that fired off a lot of connections for me, and I want to see what Holla Forums has to say.
He was talking about the influence of television, how he didn't know anybody that lived like the characters he saw in television, how it was becoming increasingly difficult to 'be who you are'. Now I know 'be you who are' has become a complete bullshit meme but I am trying to place myself back when this speech was made, back before television and the media had a complete stranglehold on culture. He mentioned how people seem to be getting this impression from the media that this is how people live and how the people should be like. This was said when this whole bullshit was starting and when it was apparent. He mentioned how he saw people 'efforting; to be like TV characters.
The next thought that came to me was that this describes the whole progressive base. All of it, is trying to live like the media tells them they CAN and SHOULD live, all invisibly (to the participants) supported on a foundation of welfare. And by welfare I mean jobs that shouldn't exist, make work, stuff like HR. Most powerfully it is the VALUES they adopt from the medial. At first it was mannerisms, maybe attitudes, but now it is values (aka virtue signaling).

Now here is the thing. I know this is really going on, the rest of Holla Forums knows this is going on. We call it brainwashing, the blue pill, etc. The part that makes me pause, is how did people see this coming and fail to stop it. That is a bug, that is something we need to figure out. Because even if we waved a magic wand, even if we made society exactly how he want it, we need to find a way to negate that bug in the social construct.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Research_Project
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Mister Sunshine on my God Damn Shoulders has no place here

Keep going kike, I am sure you will be able to dig yourself out of this hole

Fuck you, OP.

When I was 6 years old I wanted to grow up to be John Denver because of the Muppets Christmas Special.

Same reason we're not stopping it NOW: To fight the (((big guys))), you need to be a big guy, yourself 4u. Most humans are not big guys. The only reason Holla Forums's gotten anywhere is we blundered into meme magic and transformed from a bunch of individual sticks into a mighty faggot.

Mah nigga.

BA-DOMP BOMP BOMP!

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What the hell is this? A new shilling tactic? Its in a lot of threads.

i think it's a op is a fag……. however it could be shilling if it's all over the place. i haven't seen it in other places yet, but i haven't been to the other places yet either.

I think you ought to virtue signal some more, you might fit in better.

Nothing new about interracial porn used as a demotivational apparatus.

people did see it user, and they tried to tell us. the problem is that most were too busy to listen to a message that is contrary to their blissful ignorance

from the 1970s

One of the best moments from my childhood.

bump

It wasn't an accident

this


No, teh interwebs allowed us to form like Voltron and become a super-mecha Goebbels

We're fucking old, user. Just a few years from middle age.

Because you don't know what you've got till it's gone.

Also, y u no post link?

I… I was born in '73!

I wouldn't want to be a kid now. This generation is even further down the slope than we were and likely will be worse off, as will the next.

Please provide examples of some user saying "Hey guise…what if, stay with me, what if we start concentrating rilly hard on dubs to see if we warp reality?"

It may have not been an accident, but it sure as fuck wasn't on purpose.
It's more like we gravitated towards it naturally, but unknowingly.

I was there then my goodness are you ever operating from a sphere of delusion.
It has been continually refined since its inception in the early 50's
And a side note it is only with the proliferation of the inter webs that this sphere of influence is being broken and or actually questioned.

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From Frank Zappa Over Nite Sensation "I am the slime"

I… I was starting college in 73!

Here's the video embed of the two hour John Denver speech OP posted about. It's enlightening. Unfortunately, I can't webm it since it's such a long piece of video.

Holy shit grandpa

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This is some grade A subversion. John Denver was a:
Degenerate who took LSD, cocaine, drink driver, etc
Activist for AIDS in Africa and (((world hunger)))
Was abusive to his wife
Divorcee
Literal cuck. Adopted 2 children, 1 of them an African-American boy.
Was a Democrat, critical of Reagan.

Recently, I taken a serious liking to "Country Roads." Nice to see this guy was pretty cool.

Oh, well. Nevermind.

I know, it's a decent song but musicians these days are terrible role models.

Let's have a moment of silence for all the senior Holla Forumsacks who won't make it to 2017

The guys only about 44, if the other one isn't joking he'd be about 65 years old. They're gonna be ok.

I get why you point out the other stuff, but there was a lot to criticize about Reagan.

Okay, take that out of the list, and even add in his good deeds such as his environmental work, and the guy was still a degenerate by any standard.

Remember user Trump is 8 years older than I am and I plan on seeing who runs to fill his seat vacated after his second term.
Barring I don't have a bus fall on me or some shit.

I am not joking and BTW OP we all thought John Denver was a faggot (only girls bought his albums) we listened to the stones and zappa and a whole host of other degenerates.

Here's an old MPC post that delves into the same topic. The progessive TV propaganda started early, in the 60s in fact. Maybe before then. I didn't copy the whole post because it's too long, but the same poster also sums it up very succinctly with this line:


Why did people fail to stop it? Because the propaganda was a slow burn. Despite the progressive message it still seemed wholesome, TV didn't become a cesspool of vulgarity and obscenity until the late 90s/early 90s. The characters on primetime were personable and relatable, even if they weren't realistic. They seemed like friends, like the guy said above. It's a great method for brainwashing.

The good news is, the latest generation of Jews no longer gives a fuck about decorum and decency, and they're throwing all their perversions at us at once, trying to normalize trannies and (soon, you can count on it) pedophilia. They've become too angry and unhinged to make effective propaganda.

Damn.

I meant late 80s/early 90s

This is where you err. The mainstream media was just as influential in 1980, if not more so than now. Although cable television was just beginning to appear there were only a few types of media outlets available for news and entertainment. And forget about discussion or dissent especially from a far right perspective.

For the average user, all you had were television, newspapers, radio, audio LP's/tapes, books that were pricey/almost all leftist and finally movies. A good sized city might have had 3-6 t.v. stations, maybe 12-18 AM and FM channels, one or two newspapers at most and then one or two movie houses spewing out whatever Hollywood sent them. That was it and the information flowed only one way.

Occasionally someone might send a letter to the editor and hope the newspaper would publish it but there was effectively no platform with which to fight the leftist media onslaught. Most people didn't weren't even aware of it and greedily slurped up whatever was offered. There were a few local free news rags that did dissent but almost all were far, far left in their viewpoints.


Some of it was that the U.S. was Whiter and achieving a reasonably comfortable lifestyle was somewhat easier. Never in a million years would the population of 1980 believe that we would flood our country with millions of third-world savages and give our industrial base to China. Completely unthinkable crazytalk.

Oh, so you were listenin' to some Zap?

Good post user succinct and I concur.
The things they say and do on tv today would never have been tolerated back then, but in retrospect it was a softer gentler push for a hidden agenda at the time.

I commented this post and the reason was the first line I read I knew the song because I went to see that tour Apostrophe/Overnight Sensation summer of 74 (and had the album).
Listen to Frank……….. watch some tv ………… Frank actually made sense.

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On one hand the delivery of their agenda was somewhat more subtle but then there was no means for an average user to voice their objection to it. That is if a right thinking citizen even realized what they were seeing. I'm still amazed to see commenters on MSM news/entertainment websites verbally assraping these media degenerates every time they push some new corrosive narrative. Gives me hope after years of no real visible dissent at all.

I know you know this, just ranting.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Research_Project

Check.
Check.
Check.

Operation Mindpoz is a go!

Well, TV was magical when he was growing up. Much like how the radio was an amazing thing that the whole family would gather 'round. The magic box boomed out some authority because of this. Now, it is all dying and we are the voice. A shame he was a supposed wife beater and flew his dumb ass into a mountain.

I first came to understand the nature of meme magic with Twitch Plays Pokemon. It is similar to our own meme magic, and the timeline is condensed making it is easier to understand how everything works. Each player had only a small bit of influence, but through memes they were all guided into fulfilling many of the prophesies that were revealed throughout the game session.

I watched everything slide into an attention whore trap there. Not that it awoke me, I had meme magic with my best friend when we were all of 12-17. We scared people for how things would happen because we were talking about them. Rest in peace, my crazy puerto rican fam.

I… I was complaining about college kids in '73!

Maybe his wife deserved it but I don't know

You're a real piece of work. If a man can't take a slap and then control the woman afterward, you are doing it wrong. They like fights because they like to bed down and they don't know exactly what they are stirred up about. Sex is magic.

Piece of work here, was just making a suggestion. Go suck a mountainside

How about you stop being a faggot and know how to work with real women. Back to whatever board created such a man-sheep of you.

Slapping your wife when necessary is correct behavior Schlomo.

Never necessary unless you have extremely bad choice in women. You need to be put down.

If your only answer to a problem is physical violence you have no character and do not know the stages of basic deescalation. Your blood is weak. If you can't take a slap and still remain a gentleman and bed a woman properly, you have no place here. You're just another pillow hugging faggot.

Go to bed Rick. Your wife's boyfriend has a busy day planned tomorrow for your daughters' sprog.

Low energy. Go to bed, Jeb.

You seriously think you can push your cuck agenda here Schlomo?

Was one of things he said, FUCK NIGGERS? Because I'd be down with that.

Because of gay Jewish teevee it was, "becoming increasingly difficult to 'be who you are'"

HUH? Who the fuck cares what's on the electric Jew?


If you say so. If that's the case… it's because, YOU ALLOW. All this shit is by your consent. No one is forcing you to do anything. If that were the case, I'd have my cock down your little sisters throat right now. Just like on the tv… there's some dirty channels you know xD


Again, NOTHING WAS DONE TO YOU. You chose it. NOTHING people chose it. Dumb fucks who couldn't and can't descern reality from fiction. No guidance, no anything. Just putty to the Jew.

It isn't about a single individual you dumb fuck. One out of every 100,000 people not being jewed just means that person is at the mercy of the 99,999 that are jewed. You must protect your people from the jew in order to protect yourself.

If you want to act like a nigger, go on ahead. Those are broken women and you are broken boys.

Poor kike, both Bond and Kek oppose you.

You're starting to burn out kike just like cuck, you needle dick square. If your only action to violence is more violence there is no magic in you.

Physical harm is much like pedophilia, it raises people into this sphere of cause and effect because they didn't have decent fathers and mothers. A true Aryan knows how to belay physical harm in a matrix of priorities.

But call him a Jew and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”


A slap does not cause physical harm. But sure Schlomo, keep pushing that "the nazis weren't true Aryans" meme.

You're not even arguing about anything now. If you're weak and attract weak stock that is on you and your weak blood.

Pick one.

It has nothing to do with anger. You don't slap a woman because you are angry, you slap a woman when she is testing you to see if you will slap her or if you are a beta and she needs to seek outside sperm. Niggers don't slap women, they punch them and throw them down stairs.

That's not how it works with a true Aryan. You were fucked up by your inferior father and mother. If you attract proper stock and have some gravity about yourself, it is never necessary.

The silent humming threat of reaction that they can feel will register, don't think sex magic is just for women. If you act like a dumpy little fuck generally, this is what you get, and what you deserve.

It should frighten you. Your days are numbered.

Nice attempt at rewording, mine enemy just keeps making mistakes.

You're terrible at this, kike.

Your kind should go back to writing slanderous titles for MSM jobs.

Are you stopping it now?
Remember, the internet did not exist back then, and you could not point out libtard stupidity to millions of people with a single post.
And those who are currently in control of mainstream media are doing all in their power to destroy your access to social media & wreck any freedom of speech it once enjoyed.

My question is, why are YOU, in this day and age, with the greatest communication vehicle ever invented, not doing much more with it?
People here talk all the time about creating a new mainstream media using the internet the same way the airwaves were used back then, but I see no organization to these wishes, no raising of money, no contributing of talent and effort, even though it is clear we have a great deal of talent on these boards.

Why did THEY not stop it?
Why are YOU not taking control?

Everything is hapening now because that is dead media and the voice of reckoning is something they're attempting to stamp out on social media. They are extremely frightened and have no place in this new configuration.

But Denver was also the son of a traditional military man, who loved his father and sought to impress him. He was macho and redpilled in his private life, even if he was a fucked up alcoholic. Old school lefties were often weirdly redpilled–look at George Carlin. Denver's adopted kid was Native, not black as far as I can recall, and he adopted because he genuinely couldn't have kids. The boy was a halfbreed so his tribe didn't want him, was the story I heard, so Denver and his wife took him in out of pity and because they wanted a kid.

I think he was pretty complicated, and certainly not a progressive type. He was very patriotic, genuinely so, loved and supported NASA and space exploration to the end of his life. He also had guts, performing many concerts in the USSR and China back when western artists didn't do that. And he defied the music business Jew (and paid for it)–by dumping his producer Jerry Weintraub. Weintraub called him a Nazi in response and Denver later said, ""I'd bend my principles to support something he wanted of me. And of course every time you bend your principles – whether because you don't want to worry about it, or because you're afraid to stand up for fear of what you might lose – you sell your soul to the devil."

I was a lefty back in the 80s too, because then leftism expressed itself as caring about the environment and animals, wanting to end world hunger and stupid wars, take care of children, clean air and water, good stuff like that. I don't believe Denver would like most of what liberalism stands for today at all.

PRAISE KEK

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, Here you go, user:
"The Century of the Self" (Full Documentary)

somewhat relevant

I once had a very good friend who was absolutely triggered by a certain John Denver song.
This led to me working the song into every conversation I could, and playing it at every opportunity.

For the friendship that once was; Calypso!

For no particular reason…

You mean a mighty fascia, campagno

get the fuck out and go stroke your clitpenis or finger your boypussy you collosal millenial faggot

Wtf I hate John Denver now.

gas yourself

I don't wanna bum you out user, but…

Related
Gay characters on tv by decade by debut
home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~wyatt/tv-characters.html


This is why it's dangerous and something I've come to my own conclusion on.

If you were a kid from a foreigner watching American tv you would think:
Your assumptions wouldn't be that much different if you were a white kid from a small town. "Well maybe, it's just my town. Maybe it's true that we are just big racists and everywhere else is a big diverse tolerant environment." Couple tv with the same misleading themes in news, music and movies and you have a deadly concoction.

This is why a Trump win was so shocking to liberals. They didn't realize that what is presented in the media is in fact, not a true reflection of reality at all. Most of Americans aren't living in large upper middle class houses with mixed children celebrating Hannakuh with their newly-wed gay hispanic neighbors.

I meant to type
*If you were a foreigner watching American tv

good observation

This is something I ran into working overseas. Many non-Americans really did believe most Americans lived in these posh Manhattan apartments or LA mansions, wore $2000 worth of fashionable casual wear daily and all teenagers drove the latest model sports cars.

And that doesn't even begin to cover the faggot/minority propaganda angle you mentioned.

It's pretty insane once you think about it. A complete warped sense of reality.

To Americans though it can become what you measure yourself against, even if just on a unconscious level. Now apply this to ideology and there we find how kikes have a stronghold generational attitudes and ultimately the direction of an entire nation.

This is why it's really hard for me to watch tv and mainstream film releases. I get called no-fun allowed for saying this. But I just can't deal with the obvious kike push. It's insantiy.

Fuck you. Giving other races the monopoly on violent behavior has been one of the biggest down falls of the white man. Violence has been a part of European culture much more than any other kanker hond culture.

We think the best of people. Jews are demons that make me question if God might actually be real because if people so purely evil can exist then surely pure good must also exist.

JUST