Did the Romanov deserve their fate ?

did the Romanov deserve their fate ?

Yes, and the Bolsheviks were quite light on them.

It wasn't about them. If they were left alive the aristocrats would want to reinstal them. Sure, they did anyway, but it was never about human lives. It was always about … THE GREATER GOOD

FOR TAU

If history taught us something is that if you're lenient with the dominant class, they'll come back to fuck you. (Paris Commune, French Revolution, Russian Civil War, Catalonia)

the older members of the family yes

the younger should've been left alone

No, only the Tsar. And that's probably what the Bolsheviks would have done in ideal circumstances, the killing of the entire family was a hurried decision based on the prospect that a white advance could get the family and any member of the family would legitimize their cause.

Murdering children is atrocious and bad PR no matter how you rationalise it.

It doesn't matter if they deserved it or not. It was the right thing to do. Alive they would be a constant threat. That's all there is to it.
But if a non socialist asks, start talking about starving kids and Russian casualties in WW1 hopefully that will distract them. DO YOU THINK CHILDREN DESERVE TO DIE FROM STARVATION?!!

yes, kill the porkies

"One has to remark that men ought either to be well treated or crushed, because they can avenge themselves of lighter injuries, of more serious ones they cannot; therefore the injury that is to be done to a man ought to be of such a kind that one does not stand in fear of revenge."

In short: yes.

Forgot smug face

meh, the rest of their lives would have been shit anyway


you're not wrong. I mean they were canonised as martyrs ffs, and had a cute lil knock-off Disney musical about them. They are being seen as victims in the popular imagination when Tsarist Russia still ranks up there when it comes to brutal regimes.

there is a difference between kids dying because of famine and actually shooting them.

he had qt daughters, i would've kept one for myself tbh

Nicolas II can hardly be considered a tyrant, especially for that time.

as for the wife and kids and the servants, that was literally uncalled for.

Yes, shooting them is quick and merciful.

If he can't be considered a tyrant then please name one individual in western society from that time period that can be.

Nicholas and Alexandra most certainly had it coming. Shooting them was an undeserved mercy. The kids didn't "deserve" it, they were just children of course. Their deaths were just a grim necessity. It unfortunate that they had to die for the crimes of their ancestors, but that's the nature of monarchy.

lol


It's no different than killing anyone else, your cringe-worthy moralism won't change that. Killing the entirety of a royal family is obviously going to be a bitter blow to the morale of a pro-monarchist cause, their deaths were necessary.

Yes

Seriously. Shit's been like that for literally thousands of years, but because modern weapons were used and ebil gommiesm XD the sympathizers try to paint the Bolsheviks brutal as fuck.

Which they were, but you get what I'm saying.

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how can you sit there and I'm sure in one breath shit on Stalin for that sort of shit then claim Nicolas dindu nuffin

the children did not deserve it

and most of them deserved a less painfull death

THIS TRAIN NEVER STOPS

How many more children would've died if Whites would've gotten their puppet Czar?