IRL Far-Right Groups in America

If george lincoln rockwell showed up today and gave his same speeches today, you kike slaves would fall all over yourselves to decry him as a honeypot, a shill and say he's "there to make us look bad"

In other words: Holla Forums and "politically incorrect" (i.e. "alt-right" faggot-or-jew loving) faggots have become the new john birch society, with the same implications of watching their race die while attacking whites who advocate action

Because GLR was so successful right

If nothing else he was a good lesson in what happens when infighting and inclusion of deranged sociopaths goes unabated

Really cogitated my neurons, moishe.

Any groups in bongland? Moreso Scotland?

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The Fox News thing is overstated. The average white "conservative" gets his opinions from radio. Also I think a good IRL group looks like the guys in Sweden and all around western Europe that block, intimidate and troll Leftists where they gather. Or otherwise actually commit some violence but no one wants to talk about that kind of stuff.

The bottom two look like they were made in paint.

Can you recommend any further articles in the same vein as "Behavioural Science Support for JTRIG’s Effects and Online HUMINT Operations" ?

Because that was good at the time and I'm sure they didn't look as dorky back then as they do now. Our current generation needs something more subversive than a bunch of freaks marching on the street.

You just have to know what you're getting into. IE is the most legit of the four, but is a front for NPI and possibly the AFP. They tend to be pretty preppy and reek of law enforcement.

The Trad Youth logo was obviously inspired by Dugin's logo, which is why I never trusted them.

I'm deeply distrustful of any group that is openly confrontational and whose members agitate for outright race war and gassing of jews. Less so because those ideas in and of themselves are bad but rather because they are signs the motherfuckers have no idea how to present themselves and pick their battles wisely.

Incompetence is in many ways an equal evil to cuckoldry.

alright levi

They've been completely open about that, though. Dugin isn't to be trusted though.

What's up with right angles and arrows anyway?

I never said I trusted them. They're an embarrassment but I give them credit for beating the fuck outta those antifa last year.

Wait a min, what's wrong with the prophet of Eurasia?

The whole concept of Eurasia, Dugin being explicitely anti white, Dugin being explicitely pro Islam, his crypto commie "4th political theory" etc. Fuck Dugin and his ilk.

Honeypot implies these groups are promoting (implicitly or explicit) illegal activities. From what I've seen, IdEuropa and Tradyouth seem fine.

I'd worry about the nazi-themed ones and religious based (CI) though. Anytime you openly dehumanize people, you're encouraging Dylan Roof type characters or militia activity. Those you can bet are fed infiltrated.

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Everything is a honeypot, don't ever try to do anything but meme

His analysis tends to be spot on, and I really appreciate his work against transhumanism, but it's important to remember that Eurasianism is not a nationalist philosophy but a multiethnic one. It's Dugin's plan for what a Russian super state should be going forward.
We're working towards different things, and such should be wary of direct advice he gives.

This is exactly how I feel about things like the Daily Stormer.

honeypot.

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IE is a honeypot, American Vanguard is probably just autism, the other two seem ok.

Or maybe they actually believe in what they are saying?

We need more anons like protest user. Someone who goes out and tells the truth like it is, while being respectful and not inciting violence. If he can grow a movement like he said he would try to do soon, I'd join it.
Our main problem is people aren't racially aware and not aware of the Jews and their nature. Once people wake up to these things everything else falls in place. We need a movement of information spreading. We do that very well online but just doing it online limits our reach IMO

Nah if they were a honeypot they wouldn't have a muslim beater as their leader.

How new are you?

Show me some evidence besides

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Quite a few have feds in them (I read somewhere that at one point more feds were showing up at a group's meetings instead of actual members), use blatant Nazi symbolism that causes normies to instantly despise them, and have the image of a white trailer park gang.

Most of them barely accomplish anything aside from holding rallies that are frequently protested with media coverage of people complaining, putting up signs, passing out fliers, and getting unwanted attention when one of their members or supporters decides to gun down a church. Anything they do is going to be under the radar as well, with swift media backlash and giant protests as the local media in the area tries to go out of their way to shut it down.

We are all shills on this blessed day!

What about soldiers of odin?

The first one is fine, the second one is very suspicious.

Asking people for the locations of their tattoos isn't even a little suspicious to you?

Thats the chaostar, you fucking nitwit.

They have a good track record, but I'm not sure about them right now. There's always a chance that they've been infiltrated, but that's the risk with these places. SO isn't majorly political anyway, just underground overton-shifting stuff, so maybe it's fine.

What was that guy freaking out about?

probably

Probably a little bit of all of the above. My recommendation is to start your own local organizations. Don't involve outsiders. Don't do anything that sounds like a suggestion from an FBI agent.

Ask yourself, how is it that they are able to survive being public? Most people couldn't. Maybe they are independently wealthy so the jews can't fuck with them. Maybe. Or maybe the jews don't fuck with them because the jews are in on it.

Any organization that advocates violence, at least currently, is pozzed. You should be focused on creating propaganda and redpilling normies.

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Name every single hapless white goy who got tricked and lured into one of these "honeypots" and then went on to kill niggers or other subhumans.

You NSA kikes can't create that scenario, because the thing you fear most is whites waking up and slaughtering you. You try to trick us and make us unironically think you ferment the thing you know which would result in your and your ilk's deaths.

Soon.

Fourth Political Theory = Stalin + Evola

youtube.com/watch?v=GjoIRTzMfHw

You kikes can't help yourselves, can you?

Atomwaffen is just essentially real life shitposting, as for the others I'm not so sure. Just know that if any member of says anything about bombing buildings or killing people, etc… They're a fucking fed, and so long as you don't agree with any of that they don't have shit on you, unless you live in a hellhole with hatespeech laws.

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Yea okay buddy enjoy going to jail for saying you want to assassinate a politician. Saying shit like "we should gas the kikes" is fine, but there are statements and there are threats. All I'm saying is unless SHTF and everything is up in the air don't do anything illegal or say you're going to do anything illegal and I doesn't matter if these groups are filled with feds.

Nice goalposts, did you get a pulley system hooked up for easy shifting?

They're legit but they haven't made it to the US really. Now might be a good time to go grassroots with it, their rules and hierarchy get serious once they're established.

I didn't move the goal posts you simply misunderstood me, saying you want to kill groups of people and saying you want to kill specific people are entirely different things in US law.

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I do really want one of those hoodies.

Indeed. It's funny how the MSM always brings up the Klan like they still have some sort of a major presence in the South, when it's clear that the "KKK" that exists today is nothing but an FBI sting operation.

That doesn't even look fun.

I'm friends with some skinheads and unfortunately they act like Teenagers or punk rock scene kids with all their drama and politics. It's always something and always a pain in the ass.

Gentlemen,

I am second tier commander of the American Vanguard. It is a legitimate organization which I have been apart of for some time now. I've met with and am good friends with the leader of this group. If you have any questions, ask here or go to our website.
american-vanguard.org

Thanks for the recommendation!

Why are you faggots recycling NeoCohen slogans?

yes goys! Don't ever get involved with a real life group! Everything far-right is a honey pot! Don't meet up with like minded people! thats only for communists, muslims, and nation of islam!

That wasn't my idea, man.

How do I join if there is no org in my state?

Brent?

Simply join and begin establishing a foothold in your state. If you're in college or live in a large college town, it will benefit you by being able to attack the local communist multicultural centers and ethnic strongholds in the local area.

No, I am not Brent.

White children under 5 are the minority in the US, at what point do you think its okay to say what you mean, and stop pussyfooting around the obvious elephant in the room. White genocide, and how it needs to be stopped, and how whites are officially justified in starting a war to stop it, because its genocide, and no one else is stopping it.

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The goal of the communist jew is the extinction of the white species because we are the only species with the mental capacity to see past their destructive and back stabbing ways and culture.

Asians have nearly equal mental capacity.

I hypothesize that Jews see white Europeans as descending from Aryan Persians, and therefore as Persians.

Simply look up Purim for how they feel about Persians, Iran.

Seconding the motion for more explaination on the 2nd picture. What the fuck are they flipping tits about.

Why use a qualifier? Not all jews are communists, but all jews are enemies of the White race.

WEW LAD

I wouldnt join a group like that in the first place, but those are all at least mildly suspicious.

Think of the questions they could have asked, but didnt. Those were the most important things they wanted to know.

There was an amazon tribe that BTFO a jew commune a while ago. The thing needed to end jewry is not only intelligence but capacity to act on it in a meaningful manner. Whites have both, just about everyone else has either one of them or neither.

Oh and of course, they ask if youre part of another organization, which is a valid question - but its also exactly what the FBI would want to find out about.

Members of other organizations that they dont know are part of other organizations, or even entire organizations they dont know about.

Every time. You give a fuckin nerd the first tiny bit of power he's ever had in his life and he thinks he's Jesus Christ in the flesh.

I don't join pro gay groups

IDK about this fam. Does anyone have sauce on that convo in the pic?

Homosexuality is a simply one aspect of white genocide, of cultural marxism. It obviously isn't the only thing, but its plays several significant parts.

Its promoted so white men dont have kids, and for another oppressed population for the jews to recruit etc… and yes, its extremely destructive to families, especially when straight men are being made fags with trap porn being crammed down their throats, and chemical feminization, lower testosterone etc etc.

Faggotry should not be accepted by any organization seriously committed to stopping white genocide.

Look at the edges of the flag, it is pixelated. Obvious shoop is obvious.

I got it off of twitter and apparently this is from their skype group and there was a recording too of their leader saying he had convos with blair white let me get you the recording.

vocaroo.com/i/s1PkYLhvBuEf#

I think they were just trying to show how gay that picture is, not claiming they flew the faggot flag.

They also say this obvious honeypot is run by Spencer.

You're better off infiltrating the GOP.

Agreed.

I don't see it, but then again I'm not a shoop expert.

About when was it posted?

The only real white nationalists wear pepe badges.

About a week ago on twitter. It caused a huge shit storm on twitter too with drama and AV trying to bury it. It was also found out AV poses as vets to get people to take pics with them and then claim they're members of their group.

>wptv.com/news/national/alt-right-group-pose-as-veterans-group-bar-says

It's disgusting to be honest.

You just admitted Brent is in AV. Will you fuckers stop it with the Amerikaner shit? It's LARPy and won't work.

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It's just extra fucking dumb because Amerikaner is just a fucking calq for American. We don't speak German as a primary language (or even a secondary one, anymore). It's just them trying to be too clever.

There is absolutely nothing gay about speedos.

Except DS explicitly says they disavow violence and breaking the law. When Anglin says "gas the kike race war now", he's literally just stealing Holla Forums memes, he openly admits that he just takes our content and uses it to reach a wider and younger audience. It's not a joke to say that he's training the future hitler youth, because his audience includes 14 year olds.

Anglin is actually the most level headed guy on the far right.

I didn't admit anything. You assumed.

Except hes not far right.

He is the person most adamantly clinging to the alt-right label, to the point hes openly willing to attack people and create division if they don't like it, or disagree with what its supposed to mean.

He gave up on it and calls himself a republican now,

I messaged my local American Vanguard and never got a reply.

Yeah you'd have to be autistic to take his satire seriously, half of his article titles are a long the lines of "monkey terrorist president proves he's more nigger than human", which on some lvel is factually correct, but he's made it clear he posts like that to get under people's skin, both new recruits and journalists looking in. Take the recent debacle with Richard Spencer's mom, Anglin writes a hitpiece and the judenpresse goes berserk.

He's also on record saying that all disputes should be settled in private and that we shouldn't be openly attacking eachother, did you somehow miss his podcast with Spencer and Enoch? They all know exactly what they're doing and what we need to be doing heading forward as a mass movement.

What Anglin will do is chastise cucks and plants like Cernovitch and milo. We do that as well, because Anglin is a Holla Forumslack and really just signalboosts what we say. Same goes for TRS to a large extent.

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is very suspect. It is missing a lot and reeks of lugenpresse.

As for the fag flag pic I just found the original posted on their site.

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Every single one of the skype conversation screencaps are taken out of context by AW (Atomwaffen) infiltrators.

Do they exist at all?
Are they all honeypots?
Should I join one?

I dont listen to him. Im having a slight bit of trouble articulating my point I was about to make without writing a page about it, so Ill just say the alt-right is like an ambiguous term with no real definition except that which can be attributed to it by the majority of people. Its become a subjective term, up for interpretation by marxists. Its dangerous, we should avoid it, and its not synonymous with white nationalism.

His promotion of it - regardless of the addition you just made about settling things in private - has been an extreme detriment to the movements concerned about cultural marxism/white genocide. TRS shills for example - are the same thing. They have played a major role in the recent final destruction of cuck/pol/, shitting up every thread with an argument about what alt-right means, how we absolutely must use it as the term for what we are, and accusing people of not being Holla Forumsacks if they disagree.

They come in and make a thread about the "hey white person" poster in Canada which advertised TRS etc, then attack Holla Forumsacks who are anti-TRS by pointing out the poster had TRS on it etc and suggest only a shill would be against using the alt-right term.

Basically, divide and conquer ammunition is what he creates, and I wish hed just shut up for a while about it - and call himself something else.

I understand his motivation, hes on the extreme far end of the scale, but he wants all the normies towards the center to be labelled as the same thing as him, so he holds more power to argue on their behalf. Its not going to work out for him, its just going to hurt everyone on his side.

Thanks for confirming the screencaps are real though AV it really helps.

The Speedos are cropped out and no shit the gay flag is shopped on there

And you're doing the exact same thing.

SO YOU ADMIT I ASSUMED SOMETHING?

Faggots aren't accepted. Taking out of context screenshots from an unverified shitposting group doesn't make AW look any worse. Try and sell somebody else some illegal AK47s, you honeypot faggots.

see:

We are white people concerned about white genocide and cultural marxism.

Thats not what Alt-Right is.

I want stickers of these logos. They're subtle enough to where only those who share the same ideologies as you would recognize them. It's not like a swastika or the SS rune where everyone recognizes it.

How could context possibly change "we accept gays"?

Ok but what if I'm not in Indiana

What does some group selling you weapons have to do with you accepting fags? How does context change Octabian someone literally confirmed in your group as Ohio Leader that he brags about a lot saying that you guys accept gays? Personally if you guys don't accept fags then get rid of the people telling others you do. That simple faggot.

The "hmm" guy was asking if gays would be allowed to help AV if they kept it on the down-low, didn't tell anyone, and kept it out of our message. Somebody who isn't even a leader said "yes", because in that context you wouldn't even know to reject them. AW likes to push this as us accepting homosexuality, or something like that, as part of our message, which is untrue and stupid.

Does this trigger you?

Did you even read the pic related? Why am I linking you back to the post you were replying?

Small differences create large divisions. TRS trying to force alt-right on Holla Forums is what has made me bitter towards the term, adding to my original disapproval of it.

Yes, I am now angry and attacking people who started this division. This does not make me the instigator of the division. Alt-right is something a zionist faggot can identify with.

You want to call yourself alt-right? Fine. You call yourself whatever you want, but dont come in saying blacks cant be alt-right and stupid bullshit like alt-right means concerned about white genocide.

Alt-right is wanting immigration to stop because jobs… and concern that you might be the next victim of a terrorist attack personally.. not because you want muslims to stop coming in the country entirely simply because muslim culture isnt compatible with western society, and Sharia law disgusts you etc.

White nationalists dont want any muslims, regardless of attacks. They should stay in their mudshit countries, where they belong.

Thats not alt-right.

Yeah, if you keep saying that, it will magically become true. Take you D+C and shove it, or I'm telling Slavros. He explicitly said to back off on Holla Forums.

Octabian isn't even the Ohio leader, stop bullshitting and damage controlling and go sell your illegal AK47s someplace else.

So you gave up on the "they doxed us" story and replaced it with that?

I dont even know who Slavros is. Holla Forums is the only place I come for politics, and it has been since I left Holla Forums because they flooded it with trap porn over half a decade ago.

I am the real Holla Forumsack, and then people like YOU come in, from TRS or wherever you are from - and accuse me of being new, or not being a Holla Forumsack because Im anti-TRS.

You created this division, now Holla Forumsacks are getting pissed about it. Great job.

The reason you were told to back off Holla Forums is people like me, not the other way around, I am Holla Forums, no ones telling me to back off shit.

Youre backing off because people like me are pissed, and clearly someone up the line has figured this out.

AW literally crawls with anti-social degenerates who have done even dumber shit than that, you would be surprised.

That isn't what he says in my gaming group on discord and I don't belong to AW faggot or even IM for that and I align myself with TRS more and I'm trying to help you fag because you have one of your members telling people he is a leader of Ohio and there is nothing wrong with "red pilled" homos. God damn when someone trys to help you then you just attack them. Fuck you man.

do you have evidence they doxxed you? because in that recording it shows you guys saying you wanted to dox Natt and shut down IM here>>8576960

Homosexuality is a problem. Homosexuality needs to be out of the media. Nobody in our group disagrees with this. He isn't the leader of Ohio, he was one of the original state organizers. Don't act like a victim when somebody responds to your blatantly false infighting shit.

Not octabian

I'm trying to help you faggot

this tbh sadly

a lot of them might have union jobs or live in rural areas where antisemitism might be seen as "odd" or "silly" but not "oy vey shut it down" – if they get too popular, tho, and are still going strong you have to wonder who they're cutting deals with. but, you have to wonder that about any group tbh

that's an anarchist symbol - it means chaos

the thing about "far-right" groups is that most of them tend to be "useful" and therefore not always "political" – like, one of your best "far-right" institutions is your local church. find one that suits your social/moral flavors (even if you aren't too into the jesus-jesus stuff) and move from there. Get a job and contribute to a community that fights against dejewneracy. That's the true right-wing tbh

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I specifically explained the context in which the quote was mined. If you genuinely believe AV is a tranny-hungry pit of degeneracy like AW likes to paint because of stupid shit like this, and someone retweeting a tweet from someone we didn't know was a tranny, then that is your problem to sort out.

If you don't want to be painted as such and prove people calling you gay wrong then kick octabian out because it's clear he is causing issues and making people think you are a gay group. To be honest I don't think that of AV just octabian because I like AV to a point more so then the larpers that are AW but you have to get rid of the cancer m8

fags

dailystormer.com/brave-nazi-troll-protests-homo-vigil-gets-fired/
TBH, Atomwaffen boys and Tradyouth are the only guys doing anything right now.

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they also made national news 2 weeks ago putting up hitler posters on a LGBT youth club in Chicago.

Pretty much all of these are useless, yet legitimate organizations, and I do see hope for a lot of them growing in the future into something greater. The ones I have the highest hope for are American Vanguard and Atomwaffen Division. I don't know much about Identity Europa and TradYouth are a bunch of LARPers. The only honeypots are the ones that have been around for a while and have been compromise, such as the KKK, the ANP, or the NSM. The first two started out okay but were compromised later, the NSM was always a honeypot. Skinhead street gangs and prison gangs like the Aryan Brotherhood all fall under useless, mainly because they're just white degenerates who use scary symbolism.

Your daily reminder Atomwaffen is good friends is good friends with the men from NA. All other groups (ID, AV and TRAD) are gay.

based

to what? get some memebership before getting raided? psssst

why not just infiltrate the GOP, and start your only little secret WN clique in there like the christfags do w/ their silly ideology? protip: i bet you one already exists. Go find it.

don't get me wrong there is nothing wrong with organizing these sorts of groups, but without mainstream attention you really get no play. you're more effective from the inside

I don't disagree.

Two non-US groups.

Why don't we start an NA branch in Canada? UK and Canada have a special relation, it just makes sense.

The ones I have the highest hope of actually accomplishing something tangible. The Atomwaffen Division so far mainly only does propaganda type stuff, but it's all great stuff. As for the stuff about the GOP, that's why I have high hopes for most of those groups. They're not political parties, they're just groups to organize in. People like the Tradworkers are shit because they're trying to make political parties. Also,
>redditspacing

AV was always a gay knockoff of AW.
Sometimes you guys do cool things, other times you try far too hard to tone down the message to a wider audience…and that's why you fail in comparison.

You'd have to get in touch with them via IronMarch.org.

I'd also have to find a Canadian user who'd be willing to head the thing as I myself can't do it due to my autistic manners, speech patterns, and general appearance. I want to be part of a group but unless I get a new body I can't lead it as I don't properly reflect the ideals with my shit body.

I don't see why both can't exist. If anything, having Atomwaffen and IM around trolling the fuck out of everyone makes the movement stronger.

I don't see why you guys keep blowing your cover immediately after you infiltrate, though. If you find that they're connected to the FBI or love traps and shit, shouldn't you leak that more quietly than yelling "WE PWNed YOU!"

They're damn right they do.

>geiger counter in one hand and a Mosin in the other

Taking the whole nuclear thing a little far

AW perpetuates every single negative stereotype of the anti-social White Nationalist on purpose because they believe that, by affirming the stereotypes the media places on them, it makes them powerful. Extremity for the sake of extremity. What they don't realize is that, by doing this, they damage any sort of mass movement or cultural appeal Nationalism could have. They can keep all their Islamic inspiration, illegal AK47s, right-wing doxxing, Nazi LARPing, and ideology worship shit to themselves. If Hitler was still alive, which group's philosophy do you think he'd favor? AW, which is just an edgy, feminine and reactive call to the past, or AV, which is innovative and smart?

Every single group will be the target of enemy attempts at infiltration and subversion. Having a traitor in your ranks does not discredit the organization. You need to stop with this insane notion that because somebody puts in effort to attack you, they automatically win, and replace it with a healthy and efficient mindset of vetting candidates and having an ongoing and transparent process for reviewing their candidacy and accepting/acting upon tips that they may be traitors in a way which excises the guilty and does not disrespect the innocent. You simply make an effort back. So tired of this paranoia masquerading as safety concerns. Most of the idiots writing this sort of shit are probably have anxiety issues and are arguing from pathology, not from reason.

AV is neither of those things.
That nascent movement we're all orbiting hasn't fully formed yet. Trying to jump the gun and claim to be the true heirs is nonsensical. You're both student orgs. Your rivalry is natural and healthy.

What's the likelyhood that you could get in trouble if a member of your org committed a crime and you had no knowledge of it? As in, RICO and all that?

I am addressing the direction, of course.

First off I know you live in commiefornia but private selling of a firearm isn't illegal in every other state faggot and next do you have proof of this doxxing? There is proof of you wanting to dox AW and IM in that recording. I think you are just making claims to see what sticks so you can bury you accepting gays and wanting to dox Natt

Both organizations are full of college students who haven't figured out how to set their personal feelings aside from the movement. AW and IM dox the fuck out of people for lols, they should expect some turn about. However, because of this AW/TRS/IE/whatever should realize that this is just how the game is fucking played. Yeah, it'd be great if you guys all stopped. You're not going to. So why worry?

You're desperate

Where is the Proof? You are just making claims with no evidence.

And you can take this length of rope while I get you and your family.

I asked for proof nigger not you just to repost your claim

I'm not making any claims beyond evidence provided in this thread. According to the vocaroo Natt spread around the other day, at least some members of AV is willing to dox ideologically aligned people it disagrees with. Given that Natt GOT that audio, it shows that IM is infiltrating other organizations. Pretty basic.

Neither of your clubs are that important.

QUints

Hitler

Shame'd myself.

Frankly, its a problem, from what I heard, the Texas guy from AW was watched because he was revealed. That lead to the org being watched in turn. If you get my meaning.
A crime wasn't even committed then.

Extremity attracts extremists. Or fanatics as Rockwell liked to call them.
Relying on a mass movement to push change in the culture or the people is nonsense. The National Socialists of Germany weren't massive and did not take power by being the one with the most members. It won by being extreme, by leading by example, by taking those who were dedicated and fanatic. AW's methods attract the kinds of people that are strong, smart and willing to do anything for the sake of the people. There is no censorship of the message, there is no watering down, there is pure dedication to the Truth.
Whereas AV backs down, says it will accept fags, has a problem with selling weaponry and seeks to create a more mass appealing propaganda. Did you even read Reaktion? Or any of the (IM) intro materials? You popped up out of seemingly nowhere because why? AW was already there and yet you guys felt the need to make something separate?

AW is stronger.
AW has gotten far more attention.
AW succeeds where AV fails. Just sink that org and join them.

So you don't have any evidence they doxxed you basically and you are just making up shit. So you are just mad that you got recorded wanting to dox people then turn around and call the people who recorded you doxxers so you can get people off from looking at you and listening to that recording. It's pretty pathetic to be honest and a bit of a jew tactic

I'm actaully more pro IM on this issue than AV. I don't join clubs because I'm old and not photogenic.

Leaking a private chat does not equal doxxing my friend.

Then you're fucked up the ass, champ.

I never liked Clan Jade Falcon. I was always a House kinda guy. Clanners were prudes.

That's true. I have no doubt if you guys wanted to, you could. And I think it's important that everyone realize that and have it out on the table. Remember we're not fighting for bodies anymore, at least within people already in the movement. There's nothing to stop non-leadership from advocating for both.

National action

With threads like this OP should list what the symbols in then image represent.

Act like everyone is a honeypot, but don't scream that they are. Honeypots exist and people want to put us on a list. Screaming honeypot is a good way to keep us from organizing. Don't countersignal anyone unless they are breaking the law.Even then ignoring them works better. Extremists make you look moderate.

Believe everyone is a fed and everything is a honeypot. Protect your privacy, but don't sabotage.

Did you forget that we're the GOP now?

Still, AW and AV, do not forget. We are in this together. Despite the differences, we have better things in mind for the North American continent than any other cucked org or party in this place.

Keep fighting the good fight and keep good competition. May the best man win.

You should know already.

oh I am lawflin

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"Fanatics" alone aren't conducive to mass movement influence, narrative shifting and culture control. If you were to follow that philosophy to it's logical conclusion, setting up a political party, and thinking you're going to make a change in society through electoral power, is the only logical step forward - which it obviously isn't. Purely marketing your movement towards those already highly ideologically motivated is not how Hitler won. Hitler won by appealing to the issues the common German man faced, not looking down on or ignoring people who weren't familiar with the books of Fascism in his day. This lies the problem of AW: it has a bold misunderstanding of White people, who they claim to cherish above all else, because they're a group fundamentally based in appealing to introversion and the most mentally ill people of our society (as ideology is akin to introversion, and deep sub-culture). This is not where you find people that will win. AW has a recruitment philosophy like the Yihequan Movement of the Boxer Rebellion, while AV has a recruitment philosophy like the NSDAP. One fucked up, one worked.

Nothing is censored or "watered down" within AV. We simply don't revel in the most negative aspects the media lays upon us as part of their own carefully construed narrative, and we don't use swatstikas everywhere because they have no real relation, or use, to American history or American people. That is not censorship.

If dedication to "Truth" (as you capitalized it, to make yourself seem as if you knew anything) is your priority, then you'd realize ideals matter, not ideology itself. Pure dedication to singular ideology is idol worship, and damaging.

I didn't found the group, but I would guess it's because your leaders, your philosophy and your ways of asserting yourselves into the public sphere is cringey, useless, and stupid - just like most of the people who post on Ironmarch.

James Mason - Siege

None of you should post anything ever again on Holla Forums until you've read this book.

If you're in the leadership, and someone commits a crime, they can pin it on you. It's a cheat-mode law to deal with organized crime.

So if you're some half-assed group, believe me, you have no chance against the gov. The mafia has an extreme vetting process and even they get fucked up easily.

I'd say there's a big breach between that and Holla Forums's other pole, Men Amidst the Ruins/Ride the Tiger.

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You can kind of see that reflected in the way we interact internally.

AV is cucks

WHY ARE SO MANY GROUPS FULL OF COCKSUCKING FAGGOTS

your picture is shit those posts are barely legible.

Trade youth is the only one that seems decent. AV is gay, Atomwaffen is just a bunch of autists.

I would honestly rather join some skinhead gang like WAR or hammerskins or something before these.

This is laughably pathetic. Gas yourself, kike.

What you mean by this?

lmao it's called opening the image in a newtab newfag

explain that kike

Nice come back, but you would be better off not using a projector.

Also, context. This demands it. Why did they say that and what were they hoping to achieve? The lack of context is disturbing, as is the fact that we already debunked most of that… here… live… in front of you… IN THIS THREAD.

At this point I'm convinced that you are just changing IP's to shit up the thread. Offer solid proof (not a screencap with more holes than a block of swiss cheeses) that AV is faggots or gas yourself.

That is actually how he won. It's in Mein Kampf, how he built up the party. Golden Dawn did the same thing. You need to build a core movement of hardcore loyalists first before you can even think about appealing to normies. Once you have a 400k man paramilitary force stomping communists skulls into the ground like Hitler did, then you can talk about appealing to the average joe. Before that point it's pretty worthless.

These groups are all awesome. "The tip of the spear" as the saying goes. TradYouth has done many demonstrations and actually fought the anti-racists in the streets when attacked, while Identity Vanguard have done great work for the White students at Left Coast universities.

I'm not very familiar with Atomwaffen Division but any group that puts up posters like theirs to trigger marxist faggots is all right.

once again proving that (((trs))) argues like a bunch of kikes

fug

The holocaust didn't happen but it should have.

400,000 people weren't ideological Fascists. Maybe 10,000 of them were highly attracted to Fascist literature and thought before Hitler, but everybody afterwards came to Fascist conclusions as a result of Hitler's success and the culture of the Party itself. Most were working-class, pissed off, mostly disassociated from books but knew most of the tenants and found them reasonable.

The only feminine faggots is AV. You faggots literally let fags into your groups. You are literally too afraid to use swastikas. You are pathetic cultural Marxist Trump cucks.

How does it feel to be 12?

Fucking pathetic. WLP was right, only a few Americans would celebrate while millions would weep for capitalism. Fuck your Capitalism.

Wow really proved me wrong, doesn't change the fact you are Sodomite enablers and Trump cocksuckers. You are a Neo-Con group, stop saying you're Fascists.

You're right, we need 60$ polo shirts to seem more presentable to normies, and then we need to spend even more money on some 30's knockoff uniform. We also need to defend NPI because we can't let our precious fag ideologues get hurt. (Jack Donovan, Milo, Millenial Woes)

Fuck you. You aren't right, we will swing 'right' even harder than left because you are a threat to any movement that's against the modern world.

Nig, you're forgetting about the 6 quadrillion.

The shilling is real

Yup, can't even refute a single point. Pathetic. Alt-Kike bullshit everytime.

Yes, we're literally cultural Marxist, neo-cons, and sodomites because of one intentionally misconstrued screencap. Could you be anymore of a try-hard?

How is it intentionally misconstrued when the thread is given for context? You guys call yourselves alt right on twitter and like Richard Spencer, and when anyone posts anything about you you just scream muh shills

Yes. You are objectively militant cultural Marxists, you are the equivalent of Anti-Fa.

Mason's is hands on, Evola's is hands off. Action vs. Detachment.

I don't buy this is IM. Their shit is generally slick.

Use the original picture with the flag, it's just as gay.

whooo boy this is gonna be a long thread.

How?

I really don't understand the situation with Ghoul, did he think he could just show his face without his local antifa chapter figuring out who he is?

Posing in them like that is.

You don't own people dude. If you get out-competed that's what happens.

Seriously, you're not even trying at this point. I expect better from "he self described "premier fascist trolls on the internet."

Well you guys got out competed then

Why do you think they cropped it on their new website?

Literally everyone you came to reported it. We had two of your chapters join us already. The only people from our group that joined you, we kicked out. Houaz,Edgelord,Impulse,etc.

I'm not part of either of your clubs. However, both of your dumb ass organizations keep insisting on arguing about this shit on the board where I spend my time, and behaving like fucking retards, flinging shit back and forth and proving that NEITHER of you are worth following because you're both just in it for self aggrandizement and ego-stroking.

Go argue over twitter if you want to be fucking namefags. Oh wait, you won't, because you're too afraid of making your "organizations" look bad.

Fucking possibly Jewish commedian Samberg Hydeblatstein is doing more for white nationalism and fascism than either of your faux-edgy little circle jerks.

The reason we don't use Swatstikas has nothing to do with fear. I've already explained it in this thread.

Why are you so afraid of any sort of discussion circles? You realize you are quite well able to go up there and talk yourself, right? It's all about protecting a growing counter-culture. Marxists have decades worth of revolutionary material and sub-culture that has backed their way into power. We have nothing. That necessitates that we create one, before we take power, which means the protection and growing of events such as NPI is nothing but positive to our shared ideal of a homogenous White ethnostate.

Furthermore, placing people like MW and Richard Spencer in the same circle as Milo or any other cultural Libertarians is just retarded and shows an ignorance of the right in general. You should probably research what these groups think about people like Milo, but you probably wont, because you're a blind ideologue.

Both are useful, for different reasons. The "we have a right to exist" poster, which i'm guessing you're referring to, is all about opening another way of thinking about it to normal people and breaking down cognitive dissonance. The attack on White identity must be attacked on every level.

Ghoul isn't gone.

We aren't interested in your group, never have been. AW started attacking us because we left Ironmarch, and weren't kissing the bootheels of a bunch of loser administrators. Your group has been crying about us gaining more popularity than them since the beginning.

Trump should be supported just for the sake of the narrative shift in our favor he has helped impose. The physicalities of his government don't actually matter to us, just like Clinton's wouldn't, but you're too dumb to realize this so why bother explaining it to you.

We aren't anti-state, and we are neither explicitly Capitalist nor Socialist. Neither really matter right now.

No.

They're the same thing, but no, there are no faggots in our group.

Women lead women groups, nurturing femininity and growing potential partners for the rest of us. They have no real say or role in the objective of the main group.

You're an idiot, who again, doesn't know what he's talking about. It seems to be a common trend with you, and most AW shills in this thread. Stop crying about us.

You fags literally spent half an hour crying about us in a vocaroo. Everything you say is back pedlling.
vocaroo.com/i/s1PkYLhvBuEf#
vocaroo.com/i/s1PkYLhvBuEf#
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If you're appealing to them, you've already lost. You are appealing to lemming mentality.

You lying scumbag, you came to us for help in the beginning, we helped you, then you wanted to do joint ops and we agreed. Then you became nefarious and tried fucking us over, then cry victim when we do something in response.

No. You are once again, appealing to the lemming mentality, all you will get is what you have now, a moderate neocon group.

When you're crying over your idols of capitalism being destroyed, then you are a neocon capitalist shill.

Yes you are. Once again back peddling.
archive.is/9T4bs

Letting women into your org is a very stupid move. You can keep the dumb, indebted cunts that we kicked out though.

vocaroo.com/i/s1PkYLhvBuEf#
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Such faggotry.

Then he advocates things like writing "gas the kikes, race war now" on posters at universities and stuff, which will only turn people off from becoming redpilled. Most normies will take one look at that phrase and shut out any attempts to explain things to them. The red pill needs to be subtle, irl

The problem is you faggots believe this shit unironically. You aren't covering up your ideology this IS your ideology look at your twitter and Skype for Christ's sake.

PROOF THAT BOTH AV AND IM ARE THE REDDITPOSTING SHILLS

LOOK AT THAT FUCKING SPACING.

Reddit spacing is double spaces between each sentence

Nope. You fags and your fag clubs both used that meme to try to rip our community apart. You're exposed.

What are you on about who tried to rip your community apart?

You are both shameful disgraces to Fascism.

Fighting petty fucking internet feuds rather than working out of any deeper organizing principle.

Evola was right. We are no longer capable of producing men who can fucking lead.

We have fundamental differences on an ideological level, why would we coordinate when we have entirely different views?

Neither of you have values. This is about your ego.

Otherwise why would you try to recruit people you have no way to verify the quality of? You just want to be the coolest looking club. I guarantee most of you will be marxists or some gay lefty shit in a few years once being a fascist isn't counter culture anymore.

tea party

AW does verify the quality of our members, we aren't the ones bending over to normies with muh American values. That's where this divide originated from,its not just a passing contest.

You don't and can't on Holla Forums. You're just trying to take our real estate.

Neither Slavros' retarded idea of elite and exclusive but somehow multinational and multiethnic fascism or whoever is the fuck in charge of AV's idea of forcing a new ethnogesis as the Amerikaner are going to work OR, more importantly, ARE EVEN FUCKING DESIRABLE.

AW doesn't recruit on Holla Forums

You're doing it right now you dumb nigger. Otherwise you wouldn't be wasting our bandwidth.

Same thing to you, guy who I can only assume is Natt due to time zones and obstinance. Zeiger's slicker than this.

I haven't heard many of his speeches, but I highly doubt that most of Holla Forums would decry him as a honeypot because of his speeches. The speeches I have heard by him are great and really bite to the core of what we want to say. The problem with a lot of the current right wing reformers is that they have something about them that doesn't sit right with most of us. We already know that a lot of kikes spearhead white supremacy groups, as a way of controlling opposition. In addition, most of the pro-white organizations that were successful in the past have been successfully co-opted.

If a new talking head for a right wing organization could portray himself in a positive light, speak well, was dogmatically pure, and had a semi-untarnished background, only a fool would have concerns over him. The problem with our modern iterations of this is that most of them are either autists or obviously just in it to move up in the world. A lot of them latch to it like a fashion trend instead of weathering the storm of falsehoods to reach the safe haven of truth, like we did.

What we really need is a face for right wing ideals. Note that I said ideals, and not ideas. We need someone who can speak well and light the passion of the masses, as well as unite the groups who have suffered due to in-fighting. That is the only answer. Until a suitable leader rises up, we will never progress beyond a fringe movement. So if any of you fags think you can do it, you better start doing it. Study what Hitler did to rise, and you can too.

You're both out of date, taking credit for cultural movement that you didn't cause.

Were just here to cuck AV because they facilitate the growth of alt right shit and recruit on here. They encourage this trump shot which has killed these boards. AW doesn't recruit on Holla Forums.

You're advertising and namefagging right now. Nobody here is interested in your fucking childish clubs.

This is some schizophrenic autism my dude no one is claiming to start shit.

Thank you for decisively proving that you're both utterly worthless.

I'm not advertising I'm explaining myself for the sake of the argument.

Drop the shit Danelaw.

I'm not even saying that I don't know if you're schizophrenic or what I'm just trying to explain to you where this feud came from and why this is occurring.

The deputy leader of American Vanguard (the group with the Eagle and fasces logo) is Ghoul from the Daily Shoah. I won't dox the main leader, but he's solid as far as I know. Young though.

No, I'm just sick and tired of your autistic, monotonous bullshit.

Yeah it's totally not just Mike Enough.

Actually, it's probably just fucking Tree.

You're fucking doing it wrong.

now is not the time for violence, that comes later

There's a difference between a 30 minute discrete discussion on skype (which your group goes out of it's way to spy on) and spamming bad PR about rival Nationalist groups and infighting on every single thread about Nationalist groups in America, which is what AW does.

It's not dumbing down your core message to offer an avenue of thought that the average person can dissolve in a poster ("we have a RIGHT to exist"), and then compounding your message upon it. It's smart persuasion and use of propaganda.

No.

Using the word "lemming" doesn't create an argument, you realize that, right? You're being dishonest and ideologically blind, which is not a net positive to a movement. Politics requires self-reflection, and clear world view - two qualities nobody in your group aptly wields.

Economic systems do not matter in the current zeitgeist. The economic model the U.S has been based upon for the last 40 years hasn't even been Capitalism to begin with - it's a confused corporatism. It doesn't matter.

Hitler did the same thing we are doing.

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Not saying you're a shill but at some point our ideals have to move out of the shadows and attacking everyone who is public about white advocacy doesn't really help.

The National Alliance
natall.com

this

Really makes me think.

Yes it is changing your message.

Lemming is someone who is of the common flock, someone that submits to the current status quo.

Doesn't matter, still a corrupt financial system.

Not in any core NSDAP organisations, only women groups.

No, neither actually. And Enoch** dumbass

wahhh you're larping and scaring the normies
wahh you're cia and a cuck

Protip: Do both.

What's the point of these in the age of the internet? I can imagine all that these groups do is just meet up, hang out and discuss things, if they talk about anything else it's reason for intense skepticism

Ok.

Is it the young-sounding retard from the Vocaroo?

You don't understand the psychological reasons for propaganda and postering in the first place if you are arguing with me at this point. The ideals are in no way changed by re-languaging them to screw with the cognitive dissonance of normies. We had those made specifically with the plan to see the outrage in the news over that assertion that "whites had a right to exist", and it worked as planned. Bystanders to the hysteria over that basic assertion are radicalized over to our side. It's a fucking tool, just as they should be.

No shit. Are you retarded?

I specifically said this. You don't actually read, listen, or fully research anything that you purport. You're just a talking box of hot opinions, as AW tends to attract, which is what I said.

That's wasn't what I meant. You guys always say oh well it's just to recruit we're truly more radical yet from what ive seen all of your beliefs coordinate with this.

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If there ever is a resurgence of National Socialism, Anglin and his ilk will end up like Röhm.

Dehumanizing the enemy is the first step to victory user. Look at mudslimes. Even normie vets laugh when they killed them in the Mid. East. I no longer see jews as human, and neither should Holla Forums. At some point we need to support IRL groups.

I think that unless someone is OBVIOUSLY a fed plant, we need to support and encourage all pro-white groups. I don't care if it's TRS, The Daily Stormer, David Duke, Trad Youth, Stormfront, Spencer, or Holla Forums. Whatever differences we may have, it pales in comparison to the threat we face as a race. That podcast, with Spencer, Anglin, and Enoch was great, and I hope we all join together.

None of you faggots are Holla Forums. Call eacho ther's cell phones since you clearly already fucking know one another.

I'LL CUT OFF MY NOSE TO SPITE MY FACE

Pro tip, no nationalist be them of the Swastika Persuasion or the Faces have any room to be picky in a war where they make a Gym sized room.

Both you faggots need to blanda up or die out in the long run; see France vs Germany 1800s and compare it to both those modern countries now. Yeah, thats you and people like you in 30 years if you don't drop your sperg teir autism and get your shit straight and at least form different arms of the same body.

tbh fam

Just saw an article today claiming "black man converts 200 klan members"
Where the fuck do you even find 200 klan members? How are people so fucking gullible?
I can't even check out the national news anymore, it only ends up leaving me infuriated.

Im the leader of a branch of the American Vanguard. We're still a relatively new movement, but we're growing exponentially because we stress action-based contributions. The head honcho recently put out the word that if you don't contribute something putting up posters, bringing in new members, creating OC you'll be stripped of status until you can get good.

As far as Im aware, we personally are not at the throat of anyone or any other group that is sympathetic to our cause. We may criticize, sure, but that's small potatoes

I'd say join and snoop out who you think is FBI or not and call them out.

Having read this thread, I'm convinced a Fed or otherwise professional provocateur is playing AW and AV

just my 2 cents

Seriously. This shit is ridiculous. Just fuckin' tolerate each other. Stop killing each other over 'muh LARPing', 'muh faggots', 'muh christ', and 'muh traditionalism'. Literally EVERYTHING EXCEPT THE PROTECTION AND PROLIFERATION OF WHITE NATIONALISM IS PETTY, WEDGE ISSUES THAT WE CAN WORK OUT LATER.

That means as long as a group is in favor of the creation of an ethnostate, then shut the fuck up and support each other.

sorry for asking to be spoonfed but i doubt ill find this shit on yahoo answers
anyone else have national-action.info disabled for them is it only for uk?
would a simple proxxy be able to bypass all this?
does anyone have anymore on national action related websites?

I'm working on creating one myself actually. I'm calling it:

THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

What he did mean by this?

Then stop fucking shilling them here faggot and we wouldn't care

Then stop fucking shilling them here faggot and we wouldn't care

Then stop fucking shilling them here faggot and we wouldn't care

This x100, wasn't it George Washington who said the person best suited for leading is someone who doesn't want to become a leader? The problem with these groups is they let their ego get in the way of their movement and that's why they have constant infighting and drama like high school girl cliques. Even ideologically committed people don't want to join your groups because you act like autistic children lashing out at others for perceived slights. If another group isn't pure enough just politely let them know and then ignore it instead of creating a maelstrom of drama, doxing, and feuding which creates bad blood and isolates people. I would join one of these and there's one near me too but the emotional ego driven bs is a massive turn off. Who gives a shit about someone else's logo or if they aren't into throwing faggots off buildings or if they try to appeal in a different way. Just do your own thing without doing the work of the left and tearing others down. You will find that attacking our enemies in different ways and multiple different fronts gets far more done than infighting. What TRS, Spencer, and Anglin are doing right now is the right way to go about it: bury the hatchet, agree to settle future disputes in private, and attack the problem from different angles. Spencer for the foppish intellectuals, TRS for the average person, and Anglin said he specifically targets edgy teenagers which is why his site is how it is. Every time these threads pop up its a shitstorm of accusations and it's disgusting and repulsive even to someone who agrees with you. You will never get anywhere if your behavior turns away fellow NatSocs let alone normalfags, maybe that's the reason these groups are usually only like three people.

Everything you need to know about Iron March and the people its message attracts is right here.

encyclopediadramatica.se/Alexander_Slavros
encyclopediadramatica.se/Lindsay_Kantha_Souvannarath

Have you guys done anything yet other than put up posters and tweet?

Their other leadership is a homosexual french canadian (Zeiger) and an alcoholic woman beating Dane (Natt) was was banned from Nordfront for being an agent provocateur.

Any proof that Zeiger is a faggot?

That is the most wewish wew ive ever wew'd.
Fucking wew lad.

Any proof of anything you said there?

All of this is openly discussed on IM's forum.

To be fair, all Russians look like that and are Mongol half-breeds.

Then you shouldn't have any problem posting the proof here.

If its openly discussed, link it.

ITT: two factions of TRS faggots (both of these groups have had podcasts on there) present a false dichotomy to try to take over discourse on Holla Forums.

Source on the Zeiger stuff? It makes sense though, given how hard he cycks for "closeted" fags in the Hammercast. Everyone knows the Natt shit.

Proofs?
I'm hearing a whole lot of accusations, and when called upon them, a whole lot of 'it is known'…. Still waiting for some proof.

Smells like rats in the walls tbh fam.

Did they ever present proof of Iron March "doxxxxxxxxxing" members of American Vanguard and Spencer's mom?

How long does it typically take to reply to an email? I sent one inquiring about NV but nothing back yet.

I dunno, did "they"? And who the fuck are "they"?

Reminder that all the nitpicky, feminine gossipy autists complaining about everyone and everything will never do anything IRL themselves so their opinions are 100% worthless. Not serious people.

Yearly Reminder

Those who are lesser will always seek to attack those who are greater, and in a hall of masks no whispered words can be trusted entirely, for the rats are in the walls and their whispers echo forth from many masks.

soundcloud.com/user-105358565/alcoholocaust-evalion-and-mikey

I would rather shoot myself in the face than listen to that. Sorry.

TRS and AV

We see through you, you fag enabling pieces of shit.

Vanguard got into the news and the only time I have heard of AW was them as teen who love to be edgy as possible and larp as nazis in STALKER or sth

As an organization, you lead by example. Not talking shit about other, competing ones on the internet. This is the bottom line.

Also I heard AW doxxed ghoul, why?

Because they're impotent edgy fags who can't influence politics in their own countries so they keep trying to force people in the US to be their "perfect fascist" pawns. They're LARPers by proxy.

It's effeminate (as you'd expect from homosexuals) and sad.

Wait I thought I already joined Holla Forums?

Checked.

They really are cancer, both of them. TRS is still carrying a metric fuckton of degenerate baggage from their ancap days in that they are still surrounded by faggots in their personal lives and don't see the hypocrisy of transforming into far right extremists who say they're against faggotry as they promote Grindr Greg Johnson, Ryan Faulk and Millennial Woes. You could perhaps make the accusation that their goal is an all white glory hole.

Iron March has seemingly just as many non-whites as whites on the forum. They've undergone a 4 year edge competition until all that is left of them is about 20 teenagers with school shooter fetishes and some kind of weird admiration of Charlie fucking Manson as the perfect national socialist revolutionary. The only figure that is edgy enough for them now is this dude named James Mason who was. .get this shit. .a fucking Satanist who hung out with Anton Levey and thought the only way forward is a violent revolution vs. the U.S. military wherein something like 70% of the population has to be killed. Its like the worst of /r9k/ normie hate rage fantasies.

All this thread has told me is that all groups are shit and we're doomed.

I'm not from either.

His local antifa chapter did it.

NA's site has been nuked since they have been proscribed as a terrorist organisation by the British government. What terrorist activities they have they been up to? Well sending mean tweets inteded to hurt feelings and being openly National Socialist seem to be their only crimes.

>archive.is/giJti

Pretty blackpilling tbh. All I wanted was to join up with a irl group and actually do something.

All of Iron March's leadership bar Slavros is former TRS guys. They're trying to use us in their gay little drama fight. They all need to fuck off.

A wise man once remarked that an argument is like a gun thrown between a couple of men. The one who gets to it first will control the argument.

The argument of the 21st century is climate change.

Join a local group, not these LARPing faggots. Evola literally directly warns about these sorts of cretins in Men Amidst the Ruins. They don't actually love or carry Tradition, they just use it an excuse to play out the power process.

I can personally vouch for "American Vanguard" there's an age limit and extreme vetting to keep out anyone suspect, but they are super-selective.

They mostly do flyering campaigns and normie-friendly propaganda to expose anti-white bias, no "boots on the ground" shit is ever planned, expect when it's to troll the media because our ZOG government is hostile to "right wing" movements.

I know an IRL who are involved as well, but however, "Iron March" apparently attempted to DOX the members or something and someone passed info to "Micheal Isaacson" of Antifascistnews and he spread it to anti-fa twitter, and they aren't accepting new members for a while due fears of infiltration.

Stay away from Hiembach's Trad Youth, he's a retard and many have abandoned it due to his antics.

Identity Evropa is a "Chad-only" organization, they also have an age limit.

But Michigan/ Maryland Anti-FA targeted and dox'd their branches in those states. They are an American White Identitarian group attempting to mimics those groups in Europe. You risk fucking up your life and your family if you get caught and dox'd, they want to turn the group into like a fraternal organization with lodges and business in the long run, I wouldn't recommend joining until the Overton Window gets pushed further right under trump.

There's some fears that Nathan is compromised or a deep cover FED but from what I've seen it was guys with Swasitka neck and hand Tattoos and ex-cons complaining about being rejected and spreading stuff about "they asked about my tattoos, they Feds" along with this one butthurt dothead who hangs around "altright" /" altlite" circle was buttmad about being rejected membership to a white/European identity frat.

Nah it's racial migration.

You should completely ignore the chans when it comes to IRL activism and organizations. Study the groups yourself and make your own judgement of them.

Vanguard seems the most legitimate from what I can tell. I am still too pussy to join though I don't know what they will ask me to do.

Not even remotely. They've got as many fucking gangly losers as anybody else.

Would MI5 have it any other way? They are the proprietors, after all.

Have any proof?

How to show you aren't from Holla Forums in one fucking phrase. YOU HAVE NO SOCIAL CAPITAL, YOU ARE A FUCKING user.

OK, kid

I hope it remains so, my fellow Cantonese malcontent

Most of these street groups are active in a particular region, so competition is limited. If there is overlap, they often hold joint events, like TradWorker did with Golden State Skinheads.

Sorry for the fuck up. but if anything I just know that AV just isn't accepting people at this time, mostly due to some Ring Wing infighting/drama and anti-fa attention. Try contacting them maybe six months from now if you want to join.

There's like a Skype call recording or something going around, plus apparently Slavaros or whatever the owners name is, has said that american nationalism is doomed to fail from the start because we're all european mutts with no history. this is just grapevine rumor and I'm not personally involved with AV

I know that "Identity evropa" primarily look for bigger ex-football players and ex-wrestlers for recruitment and they've recommended people to start doing 5x5 stronglift, lose weight and/or improve their image and ask/comeback again in six months. But because they aim to become a frat/brotherhood the likelihood of being dox'd by leftists is high as fuck, as shown here: nocara.blackblogs.org/2016/12/12/michigan-identity-evropa-fraternity-of-fascists/

What happens when vid related can't afford a colosseum?

Kek. That's great.

Holla Forums IS NOT YOUR FUCKING PLACE TO HAVE FAGGOT SQUABBLES OVER YOUR GAY FUCKING TRS BULLSHIT

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Go to bed, kiddo

I'll stop when you faggots stop brigading our board.

Idiots don't even realize I'm a member of both of your stupid clubs and IE.

That's people from AV talking about doxing people from Iron March.

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Threadly reminder that IM spread the reddit spacing meme to so they could attack their "moderate" fellow TRS friends.

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You're the one from reddit. Painfully obvious with how hard you're trying to fit in

What's wrong with Hiembach? Maybe he looks a bit too much like a pudgy nerd, but he really just seemed genuine and intelligent anytime I've seen him.

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Honey pots, almost all of them. There's a reason the far right didn't really get back on its feet until people could get together through the anonymity of the internet.

Some really good sources you have there, friend.

If they're not at least somewhat appealing to normalfags and trying to get seats in council/state governments, and/or forming networks of sympathetic individuals in social/cultural avenues - for our own 'march through the institutions' - then they're ultimately pointless, unless you just wanna meet people.

What a clusterfuck of a thread. More or less decisively proves that these namefagging can't be trusted and have been trying to manipulate us for months. No wonder no serious person wants to work with any of them.

Get your fucking shit together, all of you.

Why should anyone listen to you? Kill yourself.

Wow great counter-argument. You must be a pillar of your community, and not what essentially amounts to a "fascist"performance artists

Look at these two threads to get an idea of what these Slavs are telling Americans based on some mystic peddler Julius Evola bullshit.

ironmarch.org/index.php?/topic/3304-america-is-cancer/

ironmarch.org/index.php?/topic/3805-american-futurism-workshop/

Is democracy and the constitution shit? Probably. But they're saying Americans have no race, no ethnicity, no culture, no traditions and we have to burn everything to the ground and build some bullshit on the ashes of that. How convenient that this motherfucker wants that for America.

But muh Natt says he's trustworthy. Not that Kike Enoch is any better.

Yeah, TRS is just as bad.

Iron March IS TRS now. It's the same guys, they just jumped ship to the Uzbek after they got into a personal squabble. They want to outsource their gay little conflict to us and make us pick a side.

epic e-drama lads

The only way to save the white race and change the course of world history is to post frog memes on an obscure image board no one has heard of. Everyone knows this.

Says the guys who intend to do it by stapling posters on things. What was more effective in this political season, social media or postering?

Indeed, division size footie ball clubs are the way to go.

Actually, coopting local sports teams is a really effective strategy. Shame none of these spergs can pull it off.

Morals and so on

I would never argue that one should abandon the internet. But is there never a time where one should take things to the next level? Should Golden Dawn pack it up and start to exclusively shitpost online?

You faggots aren't the Golden Dawn. Hell, you're not even the Klan. You're a fucking right wing art co-op.

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In any case you're all welcome to this discord server.

discord.gg/Vba7h

What could I do to join or at least talk to AV? Start postering?

It would be fun to watch Antifa try to fuck with them.

Yea, there's totally NOT a provocateur at work here, you guys are being fucking played on against each other

Uh… who are you?

Wrong. They're trying to make a false dialectic to increase their prestige. It's the McDonalds vs. Burger King of "fascism."

Well, there's audio of the AV fuckers talking about doxing IM, and as soon as it released they started claiming their members were the ones who were being doxed. Seems like classic projection, nothing more.

How about we not dox each other and focus on the issue at hand?

The issue at hand being that none of your fuckers are remotely trustworthy?

If you don't think these groups are trustworthy then form your own and start working. Or join a group that is trustworthy.

If anyone has actually been doxed than I doubt reconcillation will ever occur, even if it was the work of a provocateur (which this has all the signs of)

to be fair, to the best of my knowledge IM has always openly considered most other right-wing groups 5th columns and thus in opposition to them

I would avoid stirring the pot with other like groups in any case. I think 90% of the infighting is caused by infiltrators rather than actual disagreement. Sort of like the accusations flying around in this thread. The evidence on all of it is weak as fuck, and feeds into the single biggest issue that fascist groups in the US have - constant infighting. If it wasn't for that we would have a lot more progress than there is now. But like I said, I think it's mostly outsiders who infiltrate to stir the pot and keep it stirred.

There's that false dichotomy again. Nobody is going against "groups" in general.

We're against YOU.

if you listen to the Vocaroo, it seems like the guy talking about doxing is the main faggot.

Who's we and who's you?

This. Power goes straight to the head and makes you act like an all-powerful idiot, unless in special cases like Hitler.
I like to think I wouldn't sperg out like that in a leader position, but you never know.

I've heard the audio, it's one dude suggesting it and the rest telling him to fuck off.

The fact it was also recorded for some reason reeks of a provocateur. In the one skype call that we just happen to have a recording of, some dude just happens to suggest they dox IM specifically?

I'm we and you are a faggot.

I'm pretty sure that "one dude" is their leader.

Nice projection there kike. I recommend stop trying to put the various groups/clubs/etc. against each other and gassing yourself.

Nice projection projection. You must have learned that during your time in TRSeF. Take your gay little romance drama elsewhere.

Nigger I'm trying to get more info about the groups being discussed here so I might join one. You're the one sperging out throwing out random accusations. Gas yourself.

AV is literally TRS faggot.

I'm pretty sure you don't have anything so

>>>/out/

I don't care anymore

It's not even a secret. Ghoul is like the #2 dude.

Where would I be able to read about it?

Iron march is full of jealous twats and are led by a non-white. They have an inferiority complex since their only platform is gone now they have no reach. They are also butt buddies with that commonspic goof.

He talks about it on the Shoah all the damn time.

They're also non-americans trying to shame our political expression into faggy shit they like. They're not risking anything.

I haven't listened to the shoah so that would be why I don't know.

Holy fucking shit that gave me cancer.

Iron March isn't even racialist, they're fine with muzzos, kikes and niggers as long as they're "fascist." Noose pretends otherwise.

AV is legit. They don't encourage our members to do illegal shit, so there's no downside to joining. They're all 8/pol/acks afaik, and vetting is tight as fuck, too. Hit up your state's AV twitter and join up if you're not a fat brony degenerate. Non-aryans need not apply. If you're not in relatively good shape, don't even bother contacting them.

Well from what I've gathered from lurking they do believe in racial separation and distinct nations. They're not into multicultural, multiracial countries at least. But yeah, they have a lot of muds on the forum.

wew lad

Yeah, you vet people so well you let a 17 year old sperg from AW in to record your skype conversations about doxxing them and getting IM shut down by crying to their web host.

Do you guys actually do anything other than put up posters and tweet, or is it pure hobbyism?

Get a life bud.

Ya know what I think it is?
The names.

They leave the hall of masks, and must select one mask to wear. I think that fucks with people.
Or maybe when you leave the mask, if you gather in number, it draws the attention of certain (((factors))), turns you from an invisible observer/participant to a tangible factor on the board, so to speak, and from there it is difficult to strive onward under constant attempt at assault and subversion.
I don't know, but they're… They're insufficient.

As a result, and in observance of what I've seen, neither of these two platforms represent a worthwhile devotion of time, of membership.
Local. Small. Highly-Organized. Secret.
Every city needs a RWDS, and its much easier to oversee, in the context of local cells, a cell… These large platforms are too big. Too easy to infiltrate. Too easy to subvert.
So every city needs a RWDS. Because a unifying leader always emerges.
For that's when we can start getting something done.

anyone that outright advocates violence or illegal shit is either a 1. fed or 2. will attract feds.

Even at the height, the only KKK chapters that were targeted for surveillance/infiltration were KKK chapters that advocated for violence.

Nah.

Boy, the shills are active tonight. Looks like someone's scared the sleeping giant.

Here's what I can gather from the thread so far. Nobody trusts IE or Heimbach. AV thinks AW are a bunch of anti-american hitler worshiping autists who do illegal things. AW thinks AV are a fag-enabling anti-hitler splinter group who never do anything. AV is with TRS and AW is with Ironmarch. Nobody cares about the National Federalist Party. Everyone thinks everyone is controlled by jews. Did I get it right?

Hobbyism? Got it.

Someone has it in for them alright, but the proof offered here is amazingly lacking.

Pretty much. I've noticed that one side seems more focused on attacking the other while that side actually does things in irl.

Found the newfag

Found the newfag

Talking about your childish fucking bickering in this thread.

They didn't, it was antifa who did it.

Now you're just poisoning the well, you know this is false and yet you peddle it. You're a kike.

You know how I can tell you are from trs?

They trade attacks pretty well. Both have very nice aesthetics and similar goals. Shame they arn't working together. Is there any conference or head organization which can bring all the groups together or is this the warlord era of the right?

because I'm actively trying to prevent TRS's college club from trying to recruit here and shit up our board?

you are? My mistake, carry on breh

you are? My mistake, carry on breh

you are? My mistake, carry on breh

HAC says it best. Most whites, even those racially aware, will refuse to speak or act openly until someone in the newspapers or on the TV or the latest reality show star says it's okay to do so.
Also:
For shame.

That sums this thread up well. AV/TRS and IM/AW seem to do shit but hate each other.

You're a sneaky one. Stop trying to derail the thread. 95% of the accusations of the two groups mentioned above has been debunked. In here. AV does not enable fags (at least no proof has been offered in this thread that hasn't gotten BTFO) and IM doesn't seem to be interested in attacking AV beyond banter. I'm going to say it again: gas yourself.

This would be nice.

It's been a while since we've had a NWF thread. I miss those as HAC is another guy who is actually getting shit done on some level.

The problem is that a conference of nationalists, fascists, NS, and self-proclaimed "altright" would be rife with paranoia and accusations before anyone made it to the bargaining table. We need a stabilizing force, a leader that has everyone's respect or something like that. Right now the old guard like Duke and Covington have their fair share of controversies and the new leaders have yet to prove themselves. Not to mention how there defiantly are some infiltrators in the movement that will gladly keep tensions high united or not. I want a united movement of millions, but right now I just can't see that happening. If anyone has any ideas, we would all like to hear them.

I agree 100% with your comment but I really doubt they will come together.

A lot of people like to wait for a 2nd hitler or something similar rather than just making what they can work with what they have, or trying to work together. Perhaps we just need to start small and work our way up from there. Plan smart and don't be afraid to take risks.

Gassed and filtered.

I thought Sinead was a shill because she said people should meet up in person?

Yeah, I don't see a single uniter for some time. Still, there must be a way to join the separate groups for a common purpose, even for a small while. If everyone makes their own group then we've just made the problem larger.

I DON'T KNOW WHO'S JEWING WHO ANYMORE
Thanks for reminding me just how fucking schizophrenic this place can get sometimes

Tradworker is a bit of a mess right now but has the highest potential.
Then AtomWaffen.

AV is kinda gay but seem sincere, mostly.

IE is pure honeypot.

She's a shill for being a coal burning dumpster fire

FYI hate of gays is undermining the nationalist movement. If you're straight why do you care? It just means more women for you. Sparta also used it to build a strong military. Hate of sex is and always has been JEWISH

How many of the males here are cut?
If you're Jewish, your sick god's followers cut you to mark you a slave. If you're a goy, the jews cut you for the same reason and also to make it hard for you to tell who a jew is by the state of a man's cock.

fuck off (((trs)))

Bog yourself.

Because it has and always will be cancerous

Are you talking about the guy that took his group of polacks to that white lives matter rally in Austin and caused all the infighting between the commies and jews? Because that's me. I'm the guy.

You're doing God's work protestanon

Start your own local book club and control who gets in, that's what I had to do. You're right, though, a lot have no idea how to present themselves or their arguments and tailor them to specific audiences, let alone which battles to pick.

Holla Forums has its fair share of faggots and degenerates as well. Does that mean Holla Forums is a fag board, kike?

We might have degenerates but you don't see any try and hamster away their degeneracy unless they're faggots from (((trs)))

honestly i believe that there is no need for any group if they all just serial killed over and over then they would kill thousands easily and only a few be caught plus if caught race war happens if over a hundred dead

this is what I've noticed too. I looked into joining some currently existing groups but the leaders were giving off this vibe that told me the only thing they were concerned about was trying to be the next Hitler or Rockwell and make a name for themselves. They kept wanting to push past what they were capable because they were impatient and it made them look like immature edgy autists.

I have a group that I formed and lead currently but I have no plans on revealing the name or emblem until we have sizable numbers (we have about a dozen now). We're focused more on making a fraternal order of sorts that promotes white culture, history, and philosophies and taking trips to the gun range as a group once a month as well as museums and other outdoor activities. We try to read a book a month as well, but a lot of times people don't make it all the way through.

I don't like being the leader but I know that if I wasn't someone else would be leading it and likely end up as one of those edgy autists only in it for themselves.

This is what my group is doing, thinking of expanding to a second city and having a second group because we are so far spread out.

I've had success on the Daily Stormer book club forums. I made my own group and have turned some guys away for being socially autistic and wanting to be a skinhead gang or a neo-confederate group of rednecks out to cause trouble. You can also look on twitter for "alt-right" + [city name close to you]

Oh is it penis inspection day to see if we're true to the cause? Fuck off faggot.

Sup Holla Forums I'm a very high ranking member in Identity Evropa. I run the Southern California chapter, our largest and most active chapter at that. I work directly with Nathan Damigo. I'm very well connected in the (((ALT RIGHT))). Ask me anything I would love to answer questions and dispel myths.

if you're in SoCal why are you using european dating, and it's the 23rd

got any central Texas chapters?

Yes we have chapters in every major metropolitan area across the USA

Someone posted European Dating in a chat and said that they would give it a try. I figured it might be worth a try so I signed up and found out that it was only in Europe (no shit right? but, I assumed that since another American recommended it that it had Americans on there) and I guess I never deleted the profile.

It was the 22nd when I took the picture

Is IE really a proxy for NPI?

No, we don't directly promote NPI nor are we directly affiliated with NPI but, Richard Spencer was with us at our launching demonstration at UC Berkeley which I was also at.

I love living in a conservative state.

Anyway, if you want my recommendation I wouldn't try joining any of these groups if I was in your shoes. Instead I'd head over to >>>/meadhall/ and start promoting local networking with fellow Holla Forumslacks and then, once I have a group of 5 or so people I can trust, start looking into local organizations of a larger scale. Always make sure you have at least one man you can absolutely trust before looking into an organization. Preferably 4 or 5 people. The more the better. And then slowly work your way up the ladder of your local organization, the goal being that we have a significant amount of our people on the inside of these organizations with influence. We cannot trust anybody other than ourselves, so why exert control over all of the small organizations so we can move like a group without ever giving them a solid target to attack. And if one of the groups goes south, we'll all know about it and our people can pull out.

Identity Evropa and NPI are completely separate organizations and Nathan doesn't work for Richard or anything like that.

These groups are the next step. Right now most Whites are deracinated. They don't even see themselves as a group. Once we racialize Whites then we have to get them to assert their political interests. Once those two things happen then anything is possible. Segregation, mass deportation, balkanization, anything. These organizations are starting to form the communities of like minded people IRL so that we aren't isolated on anonymous image boards anymore. Our activism is done in the interest of raising racial consciousness among Whites first and foremost. Anonymous image boards have been an integral part of this movement and I would say that it started on here. Places like this will always be necessary and relevant but, we also need to move this into the 3D realm and that is what these organizations are trying to do. My one wish is that there was one single pro White organization rather than several fractured ones. I think we might get a uniting organization in a few years when we are ready to become a political party or the youth wing of the White Nationalist Republican party or something like that. It might be a good thing that there are several organizations using different approaches to White identity politics. Who can know for sure?
#ConanMindset

Why would you share an org with people across the Athlantic? Just start your own Canadian org modeled after NA.
Also, the UK gobernment banned NA and casts them as terrorists, so NA is dead anyways

Why do you ask for identifying feature like tattoos on your application sheet?

see yes there are ID's newfag

Because we don't want people with retarded tattoos making us look bad. Nor do we want any explicit National Socialist imagery. The interviews we do take up lots of time so I don't want to schedule and start an interview only to deny the guy admission into Identity Evropa because I find out the guy has a Swastika tattoo or something like that on his back when we can just make people list their tattoos on the application so that our interviewers don't waste their time.

bump to help interested Holla Forumsacks have their questions answered from the source

Just make your own militia

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Does anyone have that greentext where a white supremacist organization was made up entirely of different law enforcement departments and they all tried to arrest each other?

Define relatively good shape?

Like 6 minute mile and 10 pullups, or are you doing some SOF selection bullshit?

There are a lot easier ways to ask that. Still seems highly suspicious.

Like how?

So that's a yes. I still think all of this is great, competition between groups opens until space, creates ne groups and refines the message, good on everyone here for putting themselves out there and getting involved!

Blessed Yule and Christmas to all! Keep up the good work!

"Do you have any visible tattoos that could be perceived as offensive or racially-charged?"

I have no tattoos

oh, that was in quotes lol

That would work if everyone thought the same way. Some people honestly wouldn't have a problem with certain types of tattoos that we might have a problem with so we need to make it an open ended question where they give us the specifics and we decide if its appropriate or not because they are joining our organization

That is a no. We are not a front for NPI at all. We have no affiliation with Spencer or NPI at all. Spencer just happened to come out to our Berkeley event and many of us happen to go to his conferences. Many of us go to other conferences as well but, it doesn't mean that we are a front for their organization.

I'm just shitpposting, IE seems like a great organization. Damico is a good guy, have met him a few times.

You should be the ones giving examples of tattoos that wouldn't be acceptable. You're asking for way too much information from people, and as others have said, that's a major redflag.

Dubs checked! You are right, subversion is what is needed.

Utter bullshit.

Even in the current year the majority of straight men aren´t that much weak and pozzed.
More like a problem degenerates that aren´t actually straight would have.

fair enough

We would if we could but, that isn't possible.

To spitball a bit: maybe a forum or league or some kind of neutral area where leaders can meet and either coordinate or talk shit over? Each of the groups does have it's own merit, and seeing them all work together could result in a very powerful full spectrum assault that would be very difficult for jewry to defend against.

So essentially if you think they're not they're antisocial losers they must not be far right?

Boy, do you give me hope for the future.

This.

I don't know what you faggots are all so afraid of. Assuming you don't plan on acting like a deranged animal and follow the law there is no legal action that can be taken against you.

Stop buying into the idea that gay people exist as a class of people. They are simply men who have been conditioned into fag behavior.

How does your group feel about people who dated outside their race.

Are they allowed or explicitly denied membership?

And what seperates you from other groups like the AW or AV?

This is something I'd like to know as well

People who have dated outside their race before becoming members is irrelevant. If they advocate for or date outside their race or spend any sexual energy outside their race at all then they are immediately removed and explicitly denied membership. No race mixers allowed no if ands or buts about it. Identity Evropa is different from AV and AW in our image. We are able to attract wealthy professional business men along with normal White people who have strong family values because of how we present ourselves. AV and AW have an edgier approach. I know the guy who runs AV pretty well he is a good guy. I had never heard of AW until this thread. Because IE is able to attract more people and especially the learned professionals we will be more successful and larger than the other groups. Our leadership is 100% rock solid ideologically. We will never waver. We don't have to have an edgy image. More people will be willing to donate to us and join us because our image is more tame. We don't allow any explicit National Socialist imagery but, more than a few members and a considerable portion of our leadership are full blown Fascists and National Socialists. It seems like IE is more active than AV or AW and our leader, Nathan Damigo does a lot of interviews and activism pushing our group out into the public sphere. We also have Reinhard Wolff who works for Red Ice constantly pushing the pro-White, jew-wise agenda. I work with him a lot on activism and I'm working on my own media as well.

We are also the most well connected in the greater WN/(((ALT RIGHT))) spheres. I don't see AV or AW going to the AmRen or NPI conferences networking with everyone. Maybe they are but, I haven't met anyone from those groups there and I don't know of anyone who has met any AV or AW guys from the big conferences. We are always networking spreading our connections everywhere.

I'm happy that we have the smaller, edgier groups like AV and AW since they make our group look far more normal and less "extreme"

this makes sense to me. Tattoos, especially swastika tattoos, are degenerate as fuck. If you fucked up and got a dumb tattoo as a kid I can work with that, but if you got a swastika you're clearly an antisocial fuckwit, in my opinion.

In mid oct I saw a national newscast where they had some dark featured jack ass "leader" of some right wing group, (didn't get the name) spouting off hitler/white pride shit in the context supporting Trump. The guy sounded rote/rehearsed and idiotic.

The segment was followed by some black guy who wrote a book that won a British literature award. That interview consisted of legitimizing his frustration, perseverance, and identity.

I trust these groups about as much as I trust the media.

how pathetic.

Looks like american vanguard commits stolen valor, pretending to be Veterans so they can get big photos to look like they have many members:
wptv.com/news/national/alt-right-group-pose-as-veterans-group-bar-says

Red Ice's a good endorsement for me since I think they make high production value content and that makes a difference to Der UnterNormie

I'll plan on throwing you guys an app a little after the new year then. Cheers.

dailystormer.com/join-your-local-nazis-2/
dailystormer.com/stickercaust-nazis-cause-media-storm-with-message-of-love/
dailystormer.com/brave-nazi-troll-protests-homo-vigil-gets-fired/
dailystormer.com/university-of-chicago-pro-hitler-stickers-send-jews-into-panic-mode/

tradyouth seems legit but they seem like tools, Heimbach doesnt seem like a fed but he hangs with the wrong crowd, but the guy still has potential

Damigo seems very sketchy (loaded with money but no job and seems exposed), JA Gage is also sketchy

here is Damigo and MW talking, Damigo says he has a network in every bigger urban area, kind of weird

youtube.com/watch?v=3Otu8ZlzUz4

Out of the orgs in the pic, Atomwaffen is the only one that doesnt lie about being National Socialist like a gay little bitch

PLEASE DON'T CALL ME RACIST, MASTER, I JUST WANT TO REPRESENT WHITE INTERESTS, I SWEAR I'M NOT A NAZI DON'T CALL ME A NAZI THAT'S AN INSULT TRUMP IS GONNA SAVE AMERICA YOU'LL SEE

Yeah, all those contacts from Spencer's gay pyramid scheme 10k premium membership

Phalanx = Absolutly implicit

This is pretty sad coming from a supposed 'patriotic' group.

I'm in the military and stolen valor pisses me off.

I know, American Vanguard and these Spencerists are so caught up with 'muh pr' and 'muh image' that they are essentially like Young Republican clubs.

They have even gone so far to be pro-faggot. Its disgusting, gotta side with AW on this one.

It keeps on getting better, AW gets on the news for putting up stickers that triggers Marxists, AV gets on the news for stolen valor. Fucking pathetic.

Zieger seems like a smart dude, but wew lad, just remember that these are the kind of people that you're arguing with.

Dangerous expansion system, allowing random new people to start an entire new branch in their city if there isnt one.

I guarantee theres sub-leaders who are feds.

10 mins in though and I like what hes saying.

His "only weak White men name the jew" schitck should have been enough to tell people that he and everything he was involved with (IE) was bad news.

and you have some sort of hierarchy there, quite a weird idea for a grassroots movement. I understand the importance of IRL networking and I wish I knew more IRL heretics I can trust - by all means it is usefull but risks are huge and with ex-military men loaded with money like damigo around Ill keep passive

I do to, that interview was quite good but damigo has a sketchy biography, literally his profile is the most typical of a spy.

I agree. I replayed it because I thought I heard him call out jews subtly at one point, maybe I was mistaken and it was something else I was just listening to before it.. but yea.. to name a few, he said he didnt know anyone who thought like he did in his area to begin with.. and then he said he was trying to put a network together, so if he finds a couple people in the same state he can put them in touch.. but it seems like its just a network to scoop up all the people who feel strongly enough to join a group and put them under central leadership - then you have the sub leader system, they just create a new monitoring hub in every city or something.

Yea, very sketchy. Ive read into the IRA a lot because I have an interest in Ireland.. they were so infiltrated by agents they had to splinter into all these tiny cells, and even then they were almost all infiltrated.. their plots end up getting foiled all the time - and the government even did fake actions, false flags, blaming it on the organization like the assassination of lord mountbatten - who was simply a pedo they wanted to sweep under the rug.

All this went on when they lived in tiny, tight knit towns, with people who felt extremely committed to their cause.

What the actual fuck.

this is sad tbh.

This is pretty scummy, but is it technically stolen valor? It's not saying they were pretending to be veterans, it's saying they were pretending to be a support group. It may have implied they were veterans, but 'stolen valor' is a big accusation.

Eh fuck em regardless. It's pathetic.

ever noticed how similar are Damigo and Spencer - always perfectly calm, reasonable, eloquent, almost too good to be true? almost as if someone trained them how to act publicly? never stressed out about personal stuff (like divorce and mother being persecuted in Spencers case), almost as if they have a plan B?

note that every public person/polticians goes trought extensive classes on what to say, how to act etc. and it is very much a learned behaviour (offcourse you have to have talent but isnt as easy to learn out of the blue).

What is even weirder is how phisically similar in terms of face are Damigo and Spencer…and Matt Tate is almost certainly MI5 (identical "too good to be true" public appearance, also came out of nowhere as did Damigo). All supported by Red Ice million dollar euro Infowars studio.

Joe Owens is spot on.

Gage was never involved with IE. We are 100% jew wise. We even ask people if they are jewish on the application because we don't want any jews

I bet the guy in the fedora was really one of them.

Identity Evropa is the re-branded National Youth Front, which was founded by Gage.

There is a reason Damigo split from Gage. Gage is a cuck. IE is our own organization and we have nothing to do with Gage. The only connection between NYF and IE is that Nathan was running NYF with Gage and Nathan is now running IE.

Yeah, Gage stepped down when his wife gave birth, and handed over the control to Damigo.

Gage never really wanted to lead the whole thing. He was always pushing Damigo to do more and more.

That makes Damigo look even worse…

How?

One, he's a manlet.

Getting that strong of an endorsement from a guy who says "not all jews" and "only weak White men name the jew" isn't a good thing.

They no longer work together. I work with Damigo and all the IE leadership. We are very aware of the jews and let all our members know the same. We don't even let people join if they aren't up to speed on the jews. It makes Damigo look much better now that he no longer works under a cuck

what is the organizations views on homosexuals in the group?

Traditionalist Worker > AtomWaffen > American Vanguard > Identity Evropa

In that order.

AtomWaffen is new but promising. Trad Worker has Heimbach at the helm but the rest of the members are solid and they have the right idea about a lot of things.
American Vanguard hasn't done anything but go to a protest with some weak message and their propaganda is cucked. Also they're promoted by TRS.
Identity Evropa has set off alarms when Damigo threatened to inform to the feds on his members.

what? Actually curious, not a shill

Identity Europa is a scam, you have to pay to stay in the group.

American vanguard is a state trooper larp started by an underaged fag

Atomwaffen is a complete shithole. They even use the word nazi unironically.

Tradyouth is run by warhammer 40k larpers. Almost all of its members are over 100 lbs.

The NFP/subvert.pw is an option but their leader needs to get his shitty website together.

I knew Heimbach at IU. Don't even get me started on half of his shit.

All of these groups are complete shitholes tbh. We need to revive shit like >>>/meadhall/ and >>>/usnfp/ without the faction shit that it had originally.

Damigo collects serious information about his members including payment details.

Damigo is a fucking thief that scams the goodwill of his members. You don't need 10 dollars a month to run a group. You don't need to charge your members 2-4 times the production cost for posters. I roll posters for 4-5 cents each. One of their posters costs about 20 cents if you don't buy in bulk. Even if you buy at the greatest efficiency, its about 13 cents, two times the real value.

Bonus round: A Boston member got kicked for asking where the money went

I asked about
Although the ten bucks a months sounds pretty jewy

I am not entirely sure about that situation, but I do not trust him in the slightest. Knowing the access he has, I would not put it past him tbh.

He got banned from both NPI and AmRen, that should count for something.

I know a lot about the ongoings of a lot of these groups. Most are run like a clusterfuck on the inside and will eventually amount to nothing.

I try to take an advisory position most of the time, and I even provide some resources. But half the time they won't even listen to their own members. They are to self indulged.

Joe Owens is right. We need to tear down mostly everything and engage in local politics. I don't think exactly what he says is true, but a variation of it is.

Aye, that's what I'm thinking at this point

Out of curiosity, if you were to run a group, what would you do? What tactics would you employ.

already going to. I'm starting with my close friends, stick with them and don't recruit unless we know the guy more than a year. I'm moving out of commiefornia soon with a couple of them we are all Holla Forumsacks and hate these obvious controlled ops but we'll probably end up using the secret Holla Forums meet-up board

I have been trying to get a local group off the ground for some time. If you want to talk shop at some point email my meme mail fam.

fullmoon [@] redchan.it

Not yet, but we've got something big coming up this summer. I can't go into more than that though. We're doing really well membership-wise, and we're ready to start really moving forward

just sent you an email
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yes I know it's goy mail but never login unless I'm behind skeletons

The fuck? Source?

IRL far-right groups:
The Church
The Military
The Cops

The rest are irrelevant.

soldiers of odin canada purged all right wing members because the leader is a civic nationalist with a nigger gf

i joined one, they are largely autistic and i cant tell if they are feds, make an account and talk to other far right members on ironmarch, dont be to hastey to join something but they can get you started in youth groups, shooting, lifting weights with other nationalists or putting up stickers, if someone says something illegal dont agree with them and try to follow the law

it does exist, join ironmarch to be invited into it(keep illegal chatter to a minimum is my advise but go lift weights and put of stickers and shit with fellow nazis)

Thing about the second pic to me is the following:
Nathan Damigo (Fashy Haircut) who is a high-up in Identity Europa has a criminal record … which makes me think he is a fed. But he also kicks any member out that advocates for violence against the state. Wouldn't an FBI guy encourage guys like that and then radicalize them further? The idea being that they stop them right before they do the attack to look like a good alphabet-soup agency.

I don't think he's a fed, I've seen him speak. He's too good. But I do think he's a power-crazed nerd.

Infiltrators serve different purposes, everybody isn't Hal Turner. If Identity Evropa is controlled (I think it is), it's probably an intelligence gathering operation.

Maybe I'm too naive but I've wondered about how bad something like that would actually be. If the FBI provides an organization that does good postering campaigns, disturbs the marxist safe-spaces at universities, gets some disgruntled normies to look into right-wing stuff online and stumble upon Holla Forums or some/pol/-lite tier that nudges them in the right direction … then wouldn't the FBI get very little for what they are providing for us?

They get information on people who all act within the law in exchange for us getting a lot more visibility. It's like if Richard Spencer is FBI, currently he is serving a good purpose by waking up whites on the race question (I don't think he is FBI though, since the jews went after his family). We know from various CIA operations in the past like Fast & Furious that they are not always the most competent. If you don't incite violence, what could they really do to you? Obviously, I wouldn't join a useful org. if I knew it's run by feds. I just don't see what they could do a law-abiding citizen who only uses his right of free speech.

The FBI would stock the leadership with plants, then after it has garnered success, they burn it down (preferably with casualties) and continue to smear organized nationalism.

I've set aside this entire year to better myself, but I know that I'm not strong, smart, or passionate enough to ever fulfill my admittedly cringy dream.

see #2 picture in:

Simultaneously disgusting and not surprising, considering, its Canada. Im surprised someone didnt just off the guy for destroying something that was put together to help save white people as a race, and had the potential to grow into something so much bigger.

Civic nationalism is white genocide. He was probably RCMP or something, started it to scoop up names and info and then dump the people back out, sullying the movement.

I was wondering the same thing, both Spencer and Damigo (both of who are smelly) so far had a chance to do greater damage to the movement and to the Trump campaign, but they didnt, insted Spencer did suprisingly good work.

That however doesnt change the fact that both have the most typical biography of spies…theyre probably in it for the long run.
Dont expect me to know precise strategy of the feds but when someone has smelly hints its best to be cautious (despite the fact you cant explain his behaviour).

Spencer would have to be deeeep fuckin' cover to be a plant. His story is pretty much most of ours. Ron Paulite Libertarian turned Civic Nationalist turned Ethno-Nationalist. He speaks well and debates better. He's the best face of the "alt right" we have right now and I'm not entirely unhappy with it.

Damigo speaks well too, though I'm unsure of how he debates. He seems far more likely to be a spy though.

It's very unlikely Spencer is an agent. He's not trying to channel the movement into dead-ends or heavily diluted forms that are more manageable for the establishment, not as far as I can see anyway. Nor is he always punching right and using flimsy pretexts to sow discord rightward either. He's had some spats with the likes of Andrew Anglin, but a lot of that seemed to stem naturally from their different characters and approaches. Spencer IS however the type of person that would be undermined by agents, as he's actually providing some radical intellectual grounding for the movement.

That's not to say everybody critical of Spencer is an agent. But people need to understand that the radical right has to be multi-pronged movement which attracts different kinds of personalities and directs them towards the same goal. You get both heavy-handed gut punches delivered by Anglin and more nuanced intellectualism delivered by Spencer.

Each has its place and actually works in tandem without being consciously intended to. It's also exactly that kind of organic coordination establishment forces want to disrupt by directing people's efforts and energies against each other.

Yeah, I was following him during that time, like you I also cant say Im not unhappy about Spencer being at the front - he does seem to good to be true in some ways.
But everytime I look at his bio, I feel chills down the spine - lived in Arglington (spook central city next of washington), upper class WASP family, russian ex-wife probably connected to russian intelligence, loaded with money.

What makes it particullary alarming is people who started surrounding him and who came out of nowhere and are rising trough the ranks - Tait, Damigo, Gage, Red Ice radio.

Millenial Woeses chances for being and agent are close to 0%, however Tait, Damigo, Red Ice and Spencer look and act almost identical - they all have that buerocratic personality …so weird.

Since I'm not a bruger I can't join any of the groups. But if I could choice one it would be AW. But I don't have a problem with less radical groups that can pick up the "rubble" after the "icebreaker" group.

I agree with this whole post pretty much.

Arlington is a bit spooky, but the rest is honestly pretty normal for a well spoken and educated right-wing politico. I'm less concerned about this sort of thing than you seem to be, there's gonna be slightly odd shit no matter who rises. You're right about MW though, pretty legit.

that guy seems a bit toolish, but seems legit in all honesty. why was he thrown out of NPI and amren?

The clean cut style that is so at odds with the media-induced image of a neo-nazi has worked in their favor quite a bit. Men look good in suits and it gives them a serious and professional aura. Maybe that's where a lot of suspicion comes from. The mild-mannered approach of Spencer is more like that of the SS officer than the radical Wehrmacht Stormtrooper, like suggested. It's worked in the interests of Spencer and Damigo, no doubt, but it is so new (at least to me) that I can't shake some suspicion.
Wouldn't we suspect them of being feds too if they were instead full on advocating for slaughtering minorities in the streets? In the end if you were in one of these groups and the leaders are starting to act in bad ways it's best to call them out on it and stage a coup. The suspicion of being an agent hangs over any prominent figure and it will hopefully keep them in check as people are extra careful to police their actions since there is always doubt over their true allegiance. Only behavior true to our cause then clear their name.

clean cut image is the image we should all strive for (and MW should work on it a bit).
The biggest "tell" for me is their general lack of authenticity in how they act and in their personality, but for now I really cant pinpoint what did they done to sabotage the movement only some very suspicious stuff in their bios which most of them have.
As this user said , not every operation is a sabotage operation, they might as well be on an intelligence gathering…or might be legit in the end, but my 6th sense tells me they are not.

kek get fuckedd (((trshillls)))

Don't ask, don't tell. If you're gay and you can keep it in the closet and no one will know about it then it isn't a problem. If people can tell that you're a fag then you get booted out.

You clearly don't know how to run an organization. Everything takes funds. $10 a month is very cheap and TradWorkers charge the same. We are doing more than putting up posters. We are preparing for the long game. We are saving up money to buy a building so that we can have permanent staff constantly working doing all the administrative work so that the few people who are willing and able to put their face and name out there can do that rather than doing all the time consuming interviews and admin work. Once we have people who are paid to do pro White activism that is a huge leap forward in normalizing White racial consciousness. Our posters aren't just paper with some ink. Our posters are the highest quality good ink paper with good quality ink. Its why they look so good. Also we set up a members only merchandise store which takes money. Everything takes money. If it didn't then all of this would have happened long before we came along.

I dealt personally with the guy from Boston on this whole situation. I liked him we met at NPI. I know he comes here so if its you bro don't be bitter trying to smear IE. Anyways, apparently this guy came out of no where at us aggressively and disrespectfully cursing and demanding to know all of our financial information. Totally unprofessional. No low level member rates to know all the intricacies of an organization's finances. Also, it appears that he was trying to fleece IE members into his local Boston Nationalist thing (I forget the name off the top of my head) in a somewhat similar fashion to that Christian guy Gabriel was doing to our members in Kansas. This was not a mere simple polite question of "Hey I'm curious what you guys are doing with all the funds, do you mind telling me where they are going" This guy got kicked for being incredibly disrespectful, unhinged and trying to fleece our members for his personal local thing.

top kek

IE is not a front for NPI or the AFP. We have plenty of working class and former and current enlisted Military guys.

That person on our Discord was advocating illegal and violent activity. We at Identity Evropa don't mess around and are in for the long haul, therefore, we don't tolerate anyone promoting violence or illegal activity because we don't want to get shut down by feds.

We had a guy promoting violence and illegal activity in our Discord so we kicked him pronto. We are a serious organization and don't want to get shut down by the feds.

guy was advocating violence and illegal activity so we removed him

We only care about your other White organizations that you're apart of because there will be a conflict of loyalty. Nothing against the other groups but, we simply can't have members in AV, AW, TradWorkers or anything else like that be IE members.

The guy was advocating violence and illegal activity. We are a serious organization so we will make an example out of people who do such things. We don't want to get shut down by the feds. Also, Nathan was a Rifleman Squad Leader in the Marines and saw lots of real combat so he isn't new to power and responsibility. Running IE is nothing compared to running a squad of Marines in combat.

Nathan isn't just high up, he is the over all leader. He runs IE

The very low charge of $10 a month also helps filter out useless retards who can't make any money. The price filter is also a human quality filter.

I don't lf they are honeypots or not but I really like american vanguards posters and logo.

well since a good 60% are dicking around in the repuke party now, why not crib from the masters? They got top ground game, yo, and the city-dwelling ones even get down with the whole 'sekrit society' stuff since their employers get harassed by dyehairs otherwise.
Just outright steal all the best ideas from the goodest goys in town, mould it around your own shitposting, and you'll know how to blend in (and it) into anything!

Carville aka "The only smart dem" had a good quote about "the election being lost in the cornfields and fishing holes."
Oldtimey WNs used to do podcasts often but newfags all rely on jewtube. Gotta dial the tech back some! Or make mp3s of your shitpostcasts with those online conversion sites to distro on non-apple mp3 players.
Hell, just look at how close those psycho dominionists got to having their nominee in play! (heck, 3 candidates running in fact)

lern2lingo and you too can ((())) all day long just like they do when complaining about "urban youth" and "swishy artist-types"

hell, the whole thing with Assad is a great way to pill without once specifically focusing on (((them))), your new groups might consist of 30% local repz.

top tier cvckoldry it sounds like

I don't have a dog in this fight since I'm a member of a small regional group in my city, but it sounds like IE is the only group run by actual grownups, with AV being a close second. I think you've explained your groups position well and in a mature fashion. Do you reject guys with visible tattoos ouright, or just obviously racist ones? I understand wanting to put forth a professional appearance, just curious. (also, nice trips)

About time this shithole had a thread about doing more than posting on the internet.

Why is this not a permanent stick again ?

She dislikes encryption a lot for (((some reason))). Massive red flag.

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Jesus Holocaust Christ I can't tell whose jewing who. From what I gathered we shouldn't do anything in the real world that would actually have any effect on the world, but instead shit post on a image board that only neets and autists actually go on. Based soley on the paranoia that everyone is a fed and every group is a honeypot.

Same with Hal Turner, he started out as a pretty moderate cuckservative calling into Sean Hannity's show, then gradually shifted further to the right. Oh wait…

Your panic only feeds the eternal Jew.

Swap the two on the left, tradyouth should be the obese and poor hygeine one, like their leader/spokesman/whatever that fat LARPer is.

Never capitalize the "j" in "jew", it triggers them to no end.

10 shekels for the good goy

It was something on his disqus. I just remember seeing a bunch of screen caps that Damigo threatened to inform to the feds about someone. Never fucking talk to feds. That and the questions on their application asks specifically what crimes you've committed and your tattoos, these are cop questions. If they didn't want criminals or people with tattoos just say that. But they're asking for suspiciously specific information.

AmRen are attempting respectability and to not be so anti semitic.
AmRen has attempted twice now to de-radicalize their own members.

Heimbach is fat and goofy looking and also he hates faggots. So NPI doesn't like him.

Problem, kike lover?

Multiple, distributed 3-man cells are the best organization. No cell has knowledge of the other. A 3-man cell is large enough to get stuff done and motivate each other but small enough not to attract attention. And 3 people can keep a secret. 40 people, not so much.

got any books/articles that would go into detail how?

I'd say my cell is about 4-5 people, but I haven't quite roped them all in yet.
Also, it would be nice if all the cells covertly collaborated with each other. We would be able to seemingly spring out of the ground at optimal times and then disappear afterwards, very similar to how we operate on the internet. And when we retreat they'll have no solid target to attack and blame.

Ghoul?

The lead of AV is Larry Murray, who is the single figure on the "Alt-Right" who can be said to be a good boy who dindu nuthin. A manlet fatty, yes, but a good guy.

I like trad youth. Parrott is thoughtful and heimbach is a genuine, caring guy that is obviously a little socially awkward. But that's ok, they are incredibly brave. There are many types of whites in America and TY have their niche. I applaud them.

FYI if you're interested damigo, Anglin and others discussed this stuff in the comments section of a free Johnson post: counter-currents.com/2016/12/punching-right/

I don't know if I believe his side of the story about the tattoos and crimes but if you're interested…

Johnson is a giant pussy who uses a blocklist against anyone who follows anyone "Far Right" like IM and such.

I didn't say I agree with the guy, read the comments section. Ramzpaul shows up cucking and gets shoa'd.

Who do you mean by IM?

8ch.net/trs/res/1735.html

So Colon Lidell has a gook wife? Interesting.

They seem to be proud of doing this too, to 'get some hits' what ever that means.

What is with you d&c faggots? No group will ever be good enough for your culture of critique. I'm so tired of this shit, as soon as anyone has any shred of popularity this board gets spammed with exaggerations and outright lies that are used to amplify any minor complaints you may have with a group. It's fucking retarded and smells like kike bullshit.

so shit like this

is okay?

pls

Exactly the response I expected. No one is ever good enough. These groups are young college students who are going to make mistakes, they should be confronted and corrected by the community, but spamming this shit and creating whole boards for dedicating yourselves to discouraging these groups is antifa tier faggotry.

You act as if they're so innocent,
in the recording, vocaroo.com/i/s1PkYLhvBuEf#

you can hear those faggots talking about how they want to dox members on ironmarch, how they want to dox natt, and several others. Listen to their bitching and moaning, calling other groups PATHETIC for not having as many twitter followers as them.
Its laughable that you think anyone on Holla Forums has pity for them after all of this shit, not to mention the fact that they are fag-enablers.

I do get what you're saying though, however they aren't as innocent as you think and yes we all make mistakes. I'd like you to listen to this recording though.

The problem is when anyone tries to correct them they excuse it with "oh were just trying to recruit members" when its clear they're ideologically shifting to their propaganda rather than the other way around. They're ideology is a toxic one that promotes and enables the_Donald Reddit tier ideas.

I'm not accusing you of such. Greg is (from personal experience) a drama queen and a bit of a sperg. In re that comment section, it just proves once again that Anglin is the most levelheaded person in the 'movement.'

Google for: clandestine warfare 3-man cell. This will get you started archive.is/sWOoI

Please note if you go down this route, you're not LARPing, you're going against grown men of the Deep State who will do anything to stop you. Donald Trump will be President but it will take years for him to purge the Deep State of Clinton/Obama cronies. If it's not for you, well, the movement needs political officers chitchatting in front of the cameras, like Richard Spencer.

Google for:
1. IRA Green Book
2. On Guerilla Warfare by Ernesto "Che" Guevara

Read books written by people who've done this sort of thing, not some LARPer manual found on Loompanics.

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So why does Iron March promote Zionism, anyway?

you sound like the same cunt from TRS in this thread:
keeps calling Ironmarch zionist with no fucking backing lol
>>>/trs/

Then why does Slavros openly endorse it?

give proof idiot

also

Go read his own shit. He's very open about it on his faggot commie forum.

they are paranoid about doxing and things which is the main reason for fighting. Most groups aren't autistic enough to fight over minor disagreements as long as they hold to the same worldview. That being said, some groups have entirely different worldviews.(pan-European and pro-faggot ideas for example are pretty divisive in many nationalist groups)
I find IRL activism hillarious sometimes like when nazi posters cause huge butthurt, but they have both positive and negative consequences. You will get more people in your group if you organize in a community but it will also attract people you do not want(think antifa and feds).
If you get doxed, some antifa groups are known to go after your family members and threaten them with violence and other things.

Does anyone have any info about the American BlackShirts Party? I'm getting ready to join them now since i agreed with all of their policy, but they seem strange because I can find next to no information about them online other then their website.

Have never heard of them before.

Why would you join a group you know nothing about?

Why do people hate trad youth so much?

Largely because Heimbach is fat.

Is that seriously it? It seems like TradYouth is doing more real life activism than IM/AW or TRS/AV

He also dated a jewess. Another point is he's orthodox christian and might be a Duginist. Honestly I like him, he's active and encourages nationalism. Round out a few chinks in the armor and he's golden.

Yeah, I kind of like him too. Or at least, I like what his movement has done so far.

so, no longer dating her then, right?

What evidence is there of this being true?

Correct. They only dated for a short period but far be it from the right to forgive sins. Any would-be leader from Anglin to Spencer is going to run the gauntlet of their transgressions. As for Dugin it is explained earlier in the thread. A passing resemblance and little more.

Thanks for the info.

You have good instincts, user. Could not agree more with what you wrote. Different approaches appeal to different demographics. Even within a single demographic, there are differences to account for in personality and temperament, even how far somebody has travelled on their redpilling journey can influence how well a particular message will resonate with them. The idea that there is a one-size-fits-all approach is just ridiculous.

The same "commie faggot forum" that has "Gas the kikes, race war now! 1488 boots on the ground!" written at the top? That commie faggot forum? Explain yourself instead of posting unsubstantiated claims then refusing to elaborate further when pressed.

itsgoingdown.org/loose-lips-american-vanguard-trs-show-us-just-weak-fractured-alt-right-really/

Identity Evropa = White Collars ✓
TradWorker = Hardcore Brawlers ✓

American Vanguard = Uses Wordpress for their website
Atomwaffen = 20 Natt worshippers

so thats how you interpret sending 10 antifa to the hospital?

Bottom left is the only good one there

Nah, faggotry is a form of insanity.

Maybe that's actually just a good thing.

The ironic part is that Hitler started out as a wackjob riling up his drinking buddies and arguing with Jews on the street
It took more than a decade of low-level agitating, and he made a name for himself.
That's how it's done, but retards think any sort of actual ACTIVITY in the name of right-wing beliefs is either honeypot or 'making us look bad'
Guess what, even if it is 'presentable', anything to do with preserving the white race LOOKS BAD to the kikes who want to destroy the white race
That's just how it is

Damigo spent 5 years in jail for assaulting a muslim cab driver, he's no fed

You moron, ex-cons are way more likely to be feds. They trade informant status for parole and infect groups. This is why many far-right groups have a 'no ex-cons in leadership' rule.

Bamp

I don't think the insulting and d&c you're doing against your fellow anons is helping anyone but our enemies, assuming you really are from here of course. "I'm trying to help you faggot" isn't worthy of a post on it's own, and when we're discussing the actual issue of homosexuality, calling people faggots leads people to believe you're accusing them of being homosexuals ourselves.

We have way bigger issue than this right now, and you blew it up to 17 posts of your own and many replies. I'm not sure if you intended it or not, but that's unhelpful d&c.

There's enthusiasm, and then there's this.

How about charity work? I'm pretty active in my local community, is there any way I can use that to help the vanguard out?

Thank you. We reject people with explicit National Socialist tattoos as well as tattoos on the hands, face or neck. We have many members with visible tattoos on their arms.

actually like some old fart said is, we are going to be infiltrated, always. The best way to be organized is not to be, to make small cells, 1 or 2 persons are enough. We have to make our own intelligence and cointel, that's the way it is.
The is no group of people that will do the job for us, money and power subvert any big group, even if they start a clean sheet without infiltrated agents. Just look how the kkk are composed by ClA and mongrels.