Racist against blacks

Why should I read or respect this fag at all?

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You shouldn't.

and?
why would this be a bad thing when most of the students that shit up your talks are rich kiddies with too much time on their hands
yeah, he's shit
jazz is shit too

he's shit but your points are mostly bullshit

tankoes have gone too far this time

his followers in germany carry US and Israeli flags, insist on every german being a nazi by default and call for interventionist wars

i don't even…

If you want to have a decent opinion formed about Nazism, you even have to read Mein Kampf.

Same here. You cannot have a decent opinion unless you have read him. Respect? Spooky.

Theodor "No-Fun Allowed" Adorno.

Oh, and, on the Jazz part, this might help figure it out.

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how and where

they were flashing their boobs and literally tearing down his classroom

well yeah duh, he's an academic lol

culture shock

To be fair that's because he's Jewish, and as well all know Jews have turned feminine histrionics into an art

hey buddy I think you got the wrong door, /r/socialism's two blocks down

glad to be called a hipster instead of a fedora tbh

proof?

calm down m8 soviet jazz was an actual thing

There's only a handful of things he did that are relevant anymore.
You're not missing much.

Ah, the famous Antideutschen.

"Let's smash fascism with borderless anglo-capitalism and suck some Polish dick! We are totally not useful idiots and still communists!"

I don't get why pol doesn't like him more.

You should. Dialectic of the Enlightenment is incredible. Only philistines or positivists (is there a difference?) think otherwise.

Adorno did go a little off the rails toward the latter half of his career. Marcuse calls him an absolute genius who took himself a little too seriously once he got back to Germany.

I have literally never heard this charge leveled against him. What's your proof?
That is true and I won't defend him for that.
If you actually bothered to read anything he wrote instead of taking other people's word for it, you would realize that the struggle to create authentic culture (music, literature, art) is inextricably linked to class struggle. Enlightenment values, namely demystification, the creation of a false dichotomy between subject and object, and increasing abstraction of labor, strangles any sort of aesthetic expression in the cradle. Capitalism is the economic articulation of bourgeois Enlightenment values and therefore a major part of the problem.
I know less about this but I was under the impression that his hatred of jazz was rooted in its commercial aspect.

The Frankfurt School is cancer. Nobody should respect him.

How is it cancer?

put this dumbass meme to rest

Remember that Adorno literally caused 9/11

post spicy adorno memes

Coincidence?

this triggered me tbh

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That is true and I personally think it was unbecoming of a leftist, though it doesn't really come off as a surprise considering the uneasy relationship he had with student activism.

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The "jazz" he was referring to in his so-called anti-jazz writings was the mainstream, commercially-viable brand of jazz of the era we nowadays call "pop standard" — basically processed jazz music for segregation-era, upper-middle-class white people. I have a hard time picturing Adorno actually talking shit about Davis, Coltrane, Mingus or Coleman.

Dae racism isn't bad xD

Confirmed plebian.

As someone who loves music, I'm offended by your ignorance.

Jazz origins resides in the American civil war. After the civil, there were a ton of instruments in excess that were used by the army, so black people were able grab them and to start using them in their churches, but they changed the tempo and rhythm of the music to follow the way the choir would sing. That was a huge revolution in music. Then you have to move forward to the 1910's in New Orleans, people started playing that music outside of churches, mostly in bars and brothels where there were no rules for how the music should be played. The music was all improvised, which shattered the rigid music standards set by the classical music.

Moving forward on that topic, it was also jazz that helped black people be more accepted in America, since it's best musicians were black. With jazz, black people proved that they could have the creativity of geniuses.

if you don't feel anything by hearing the intro bass line of this music, something must be wrong with you youtube.com/watch?v=zqNTltOGh5c

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Please tell you also drive a car with a hybrid motor and wear outdoor clothes in the suburb.
track is fine tho

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le everything is fascist man.

Kill me please.

L M A O son

Why does everyone with a YPG flag shill for the ZOG Occupied Government?

What's the story here?

I don't think his criticism of jazz was racist in intent, although one could certainly argue it was influenced by colonialist attitudes toward Africans and African Americans

If you only support the liberation of the white worker, you aren't a socialist.

I'm sorry.

Source on the connection of instruments and the civil war?

The banjo is prole as fuck, being developed by poor blacks and poor whites together in the South and forming the backbone of African American music until the ragtime era.

I think the addition of horns and piano to black music came through the church.

Entry level, yes, but it is undoubtedly a classic. Perhaps he posted it because it is accessible, and thus helps prove his point to Jazz sceptics? Maybe, as an anarkiddie, you shouldn't be so elitist, man.

I just went down the fuckin rabbit hole on this shit, that shitty yuppie band that mook posted, bahamas magazine, these people are fucking insane, its fascinating that anyone can believe this dissonant garbage, although I really doubt the purveyors of it do. its riddled with so many fallacies im starting to question my own sanity here

let me give you a taste of some "antideutsch" gedankengut, paraphrasing here but its relatively accurate:

I cant even get mad at this shit, my jaw is open, people that listen to egotronic are probably all fucking zonked on coke and mdma, hedonists essentially, but the people that spread this garbage..im pretty sure they get marching orders

I…what.

This IS what cultural marxism looks like.

grandpa, the 60's are over and not one beatnik is alive anymore

I asked a while ago, board owner was not remotely chill with the idea. I'm not actually anti-deutsch myself, I just really appreciate the development of critical theory into an actual praxis that dampens certain revisionist ("anti-imperialist") elements, but a flag would at the very least be good for upsetting anti-imps and related types.

They're not *correct* on Israel but they're still significantly *less wrong* than the segments of the left who think Israel is the Worst Country Ever and that if all the Jews are driven into the sea the entire Middle East will turn into a worker's paradise full of sunshine, puppies and rainbows. Unfortunately, this is most of the visible far left, and is often a central platform of their foreign policy ideals and activism. Why the fuck do Western leftists care about a dead Arab more if they can blame a Jew for it? Regardless, it's one shitty strip of land well away from the experience of most western leftists, with very few casualties compared to most other conflicts in the region: in my city, protests against The Jews get a thousand people, protests for Rojava or protests around the Yemeni civil war get around a dozen people, at most. Antideutsch comrades do a very good job of highlighting how fucking batshit insane this entire situation is in which one tiny country occupies so much attention and sucks up so much oxygen, and they do a very good job of showing how Soviet cold-war era "anti-imperialist" foreign policy is completely irrelevant these days: nobody should be backing groups like Hamas just 'cause they're fighting against a "Western" aligned state given those groups are significantly worse than the status quo. Regardless of all the other crap that comes from anti-deutsch types, those things are important, and something all leftists should take on board.

National liberation movements are often reactionary, even when they call themselves socialist and dress themselves up in revolutionary rhetoric. Leftists shouldn't back movements just because those movements are "anti-western" or they dress themselves up in leftist ideological trappings. What program do they actually have for society? What is going to happen if they actually get any power? What's the alternative? How many workers are going to be slaughtered by the bourgeois on both sides in any kind of protracted civil conflict, and who benefits? Are they likely to just recreate a stratified bourgeois society-except one that's even worse for workers than capitalist, liberal democracy that already exists? These are important things many leftists don't consider.

there is nothing worse than hell
but anime posting fatshits really think their opinions matter just because there are many words in a post

Arrrr post some it Mate!

wow, you were actually being serious you looney toon, I thought you were just baiting

no they fucking arent you crazy shing shong motherfucker, they unequivocally suck their dick and call anyone that criticizes Israel a fucking nazi+ celebrate their death, they are literally a 5th column rolling out the same old tired ad-homs

Israel is an insane country of subsidized children, it wasnt always like this, my old man was there in the 70s and it wasnt nearly as bad

they are basically racial supremacists, they spy on everyone, they have their fingers in every radical islamist movement in the region from IS to hamas, they have openly stated they want to rubbelize the entire region and destroy every single "stable state" for the purpose of some kind of delusional "greater Israel", they are constantly dragging the stupid fucking americans into shit the burgers dont understand(guess where that bullshit story about saddam+al qaeda +chemical weapons came from)

Its funny because the problem could be solved so fucking easily, but if you suggest it you are equally a nazi according to these mouthpieces:

just cut off their goddamned money, stop sending them 4billion a year, they will get along just fine with their neighbors in no time

alone that you fucking allude to backing hamas when I call these fuckheads out tells all really, fuck hamas but fuck the israelis three times as much, bunch of diaper-wearing glorified police force faggots

what a hilarious rant you just shit out here, barely coherent kurd fanboyism, I get it you like the kurds

implying the size plays some kind of role, wtf nigga, its muh democratic partners in the ME(i.e. its a fucking land carrier), and yes itss way more relevant than say yemen in terms of geopolitics(sucks whats fucking happening there but facts are facts)

wouldnt be too sure about that although most of them became stock brokers and managers

Where?

Beatniks just evolved into hipsters.

why are you here faggot? go back to Holla Forums

le gultural margzizm

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The acceptance of racism is one thing, but you get fucking infinite firing squad for that.