Orcs are such a perfect analogy for Marxists/SJWs/Degenerates, I genuinely think Tolkien was alleging to them in his depiction, and possibly warning us of a future. Whether you accept this or not, it's still good meme ammunition to call them Orcs, as they despise nature (hating things like natural gender roles and the inherent fascism of the universe, and loving cities), they oppose the free peoples and their natural enemy, the Elves, were based on Aryans. (Note that the Elves have a nature-oriented, fascist, monarchist and Elf-supremacist society, living only with their own kind except in rare cases).
Orderly and prosperous= heirarchy and capitalism.
Once free and good whites, corrupted by cultural Marxism, tortured and mutilated by self-hatred, unnatural modern diets full of chemicals and psychological warfare. "Forced to breed with unnatural abominations"- this is obviously happening with miscegenation, especially in Germany (Melkor=Merkel?). We all know what "the Dark Powers" refers to.
I draw this to Holla Forums's attention not only as meme ammunition, but as a reminder of what (((they))) are trying to create. You might imagine the slave race of the future to largely resemble beige people of today, albeit somewhat less intelligent and with increased subservience. They might have some meagre quality of life. The truth is that they are trying to create goes far, far beyond that.
This is a wake up call. If degenerates are looking like pics related now, just imagine what 500, even 100, more years of enslavement, drugs, and propaganda will do to them. People in cities already barely go outside- it's not hard to imagine the slaves of the future may well actually fear sunlight. They will be the perfect tool to employ in underground factories, or as hate-filled armies against remaining pockets of resistance. You just need to look at the current aggressive behavior of leftists to see that they WILL become more and more weaponized and less and less human.
Like pigs being fed pork offal, it's not too far of a stretch to envisage cannibalism trained into the ZOGbots over time. People under communism had to resort to cannibalism; there are tribes today that practice it. This is the future, if we fail.
We can not allow our daughters to be terrorised, ripped apart, enslaved or fucking eaten by future gangs of Orcs. Spread Orc awareness by calling enslaved whites out for what they are, mindless hate-filled slaves of the Dark Powers. Make no mistake of what we are fighting.
This comparison can also be applied to Uruk-hai and Haradrim, it's pretty obvious what they are supposed to represent.
It is prosperous. It's just not the right kind of prosperity.
Xavier Rivera
Elf (alfir) literally means white.
Brandon Reyes
YEAH RIGHT KNIFE EAR, BACK INTO YOUR FOREST
Gabriel Fisher
I'm not a capitalist per se NatSoc of course, but it's what all leftists hate to the point of irrationality, usually just because capitalists are prosperous. See
Evan Garcia
For one, you materialist faggot, prospering has little do with trading your shekels for goods.
Brandon Perez
>>>/humanprimacy/
Levi Kelly
ANTI-ELF IS PRO-DWARF REMINDER HITLER HOLOCAUSTS DWARVES
Hunter Bailey
my point is leftists hate prosperous people. Because they are a bunch of jealous narcissists who want everything handed to them, or want to steal it in a "revolution".
John Wood
In the actual myths elves are the earthbound ghosts of the dead.
Carson Morgan
Eloi and Morlocks
Grayson Bennett
So your waifu will never age?
Sebastian Butler
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Carson Walker
She has a loli body but she's 5000 years old mentally
:^)
James Wright
It's a stupid question. Eternity with my waifu is certainly better than eternity in this jewish prison.
Jordan Myers
This is exactly what leftistys are, self-righteous thieves who failed as individuals because they bought into the bluepill propaganda, but at the same time were to stupid to understand the reason as to why they failed, so instead of trying to fix their own shit they act like egotistical children who would rather bring down the entire wolrd than admit they were wrong for so long.
Dylan Cruz
Well mine has a 5000 year old body but is a child mentally.
I would post a spoilered image of a mummy if I knew of one that came from a ruler that was verifiably retarded, but I don't know of any and now I've ruined the joke.
:^)
Jason Rodriguez
Mina?
eternity in anything I assume to be hell of the very worst kind its whats the largest reason I have for a disbelief in the afterlife the tedium of existence forever in any form could drive anyone mad with enough time The ancients knew this which is why the river of Lethe exists in Hades along with the pool of Mnemosyne the river that washes the memories of the dead away and pool of the collective memory of all mankind
Joseph Perry
ITT: nobody actually reads Varg despite posting memes of him
Charles Jones
It's why you're here for a time.
Luke Perez
Hence the thread. They'll become more degenerate, more dangerous and more evil than we here currently imagine.
Liam White
I was unaware what I posted had anything to do with memes. I know basically nothing about Varg and abstain from conversations about him for that reason.
What was a meme about my post?
Carter Lewis
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Lincoln Gomez
id believe him more if his research and revelations werent mostly inspired by his epileptic wifes 'visions' instead of decades of scholarly research
here would very much be the same as there its all pointless eternal punishment? you still exist eternal pleasure? you still exist you will grow numb, tired and bored of it all and what respite would you have from living forever in the afterlife?
Daniel Morgan
This made me laugh OP Also a good friend of Tolkeins, C.S Lewis has much more parallelism in his books. The last book is possibly the most redpilled
Julian Hernandez
KILL THE ORCS SLAY THE ORCS DESTROY THE ORCS
Nicholas Robinson
I didn't put it in the OP because it doesn't make much sense but I like to refer to Soros as Sauron.
Jackson Nguyen
Are Goblins immigrants or abbos?
Landon James
That's a better source for racial religious revelation than old books. Eliade would agree.
Samuel Cooper
How conveniently weaselly. The thing that is eternal is struggle, not punishment or pleasure but struggle which can be both punishing and pleasurable. How would you be bored when there is always something to surpass (like yourself)? That's at the heart of the Aryan spirit.
Gavin Gonzalez
Im talking about the afterlife even an eternal struggle can become boring now an eternal journey/voyage I would believe could exist if the universe wasnt so monumentally dull and devoid of anything of note anyway
Cameron Phillips
Dude, you just called elves monarchists, fascists and capitalists. Those three are mutually exclusive. Read something that isn't fantasy for once in your life. Stupid faggot.
Benjamin Parker
And after that life? Because only Christians think they will be in a throne room forever. Yeah, I'm actually looking forward to my ocean voyage.
Ryder Sanders
AROUND ELVES WATCH YOURSELVES
Benjamin Powell
stay mad cave dweller
Robert Diaz
I didn't call them capitalists, I said leftists hate capitalism because capitalists are prosperous. And you can have fascist kings.
Ah, you're Holla Forums. That explains the triggering.
Matthew Roberts
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Parker Allen
Elves are jews, Whites are Dwarfs, Blacks are Orcs, you fucking moron.
Jayden King
the fuck? Dwarfs are jews. Khazalid is Hebrew. They even has their own god-maker, whose servants became satan (Aule -> Sauron & Saruman)
John Lewis
Elves are a sort of idealised Celt in my point of view Dwarves are mountain kikes Rohan is literally just Anglo-Saxon England Gondor is Normans Uruk-hai are Niggers Easterlings/Haradrim are dunecoons
Dylan Morgan
Dwarves are quite literally Jews.
Let me guess, you're a squat little fat fuck who considers himself masculine because of his disgusting appearance? Elves are whites, this isn't up for debate. Everything from their fair complexions to their long slender noses reflect European physiology.
David Davis
They dont hate capitalism, leftists are the most capitalist creatures on Earth. They target liberal capitalism to replace it with colectivist capitalism, a radicalized version of capitalism. The core of capitalism is the fact that political power and everyones sense of life are centered around the possesion of capital. Communism doesnt defy that worldview, it reinforces it as no other ideology does.
Hunter Ward
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Elijah Foster
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Cameron Murphy
wouldn't they be goblins? I can't think of a more greedy race so
Alexander Long
Something about this statement strikes me as odd, but I can't place it and I can't refute it.
Hunter Green
gobs are just another type of nigger gobs are somalians in the animu I just posted though Hitler is literally reborn into another world where he establishes an Aryan Empire first step? sticks the dwarves in concentration camps
Aaron Stewart
see
Caleb Butler
(checked) His comment actually is very interesting and makes me thoughtful. Leftists don't really care about things like racial consciousness or nationalism; they care about signalling with the correct Brands, which extends to correctly branded political opinions. In the same way Holla Forums is obsessed with us and defines themselves as being "not Holla Forums!" Communism defines itself as "not capitalism" but without offering any argument for its own existence outside the a certain guaranteed, secure amount of capital provided by the state.
Carter Edwards
Anyone got that picture of that old disgusting tranny guy holding up the pro-islam sign? You know the little goblinoid looking faggot?
Josiah Carter
Ok you can redefine the terms so they're useless, but every leftist I've talked to constantly rails against "Capitalism". I was just using it to point out that they hate prosperity because they are jealous hate-filled creatures.
Elijah Watson
Dwarves are directly based on jews. Their language is Semitic.
Jaxon Edwards
Elves, Men and Dwarves = Entente/Allies Orcs, Goblins, Uruk-hai and the Wildmen = Central Powers/Axis
Levi Anderson
this it?
Elijah White
If I have learned anything about fantasy, it is that it is now 100% impossible to discuss anything involving elves anymore without people going on a tangent over GAS THE ELVES RACE WAR NOW because /tg/ got out of control with this by now.
Andrew Richardson
Every time you see orcs interacting in LOTR, there is constant infighting that often breaks into violence. Much like orcs, the left eats its own.
Jonathan Lewis
This has to be satire……………… Right..?
Wyatt Rogers
Elves = protestants Humans = catholics Tolkien = catholic Tolkien's wife = protestant Do the math fags.
Michael Martin
Kek hey look its the living representation of the untermensch
Tyler Peterson
A language they don't like teaching to outsiders. A race of exiles who lost their ancestral homeland, and who are famous for their greed and lust for gold.
Jaxon Flores
That's good, but I'm thinking of the tranny guy in the sickeningly short skirt holding a sign on a sick talking about Islam. I can't for the life of me find it on jewgle and if I search crazy tranny protestor and all that…. well there's an awful lot of pictures.
Elijah Hughes
Says the namefag
Jeremiah Torres
Tolkien is /monster/ BO?
Isaac Thompson
you defending that creature?
Thomas Harris
That's the dumbest interpretation possible. It's not a fucking allegory, it's a mythic history.
Hudson Davis
Namefaggery is at least as pernicious as transexuality, "user."
Isaac Turner
Did…did she think we wouldn't notice that on our own?
Dominic Brooks
It is for (((certain people).
Justin Taylor
Are you saying that LOTR doesn't have a catholic bias? Have you even read the books?
Nathan Reyes
The Last Ringbearer plays this a bit stronger by downplaying the fantastic parts (Sauron is an enlightened king, the one ring is a story made-up by the (((Gandalf)))), although they're still there, and making Mordor the good guys. Mordor is beginning industrialization, (((Gandalf))) knows he will lose power if Mordor stops depending on magic so he decides to have other people die to destroy it (or something like that, it has been some time since I read it).
I liked the book, but the style is very different from Tolkien's so don't read it expecting it to be similar. The writer is also a biologist so he throws some interesting explanations here and there.
Most leftist are indeed hateful envious creatures who hate everyone who is perceived as "rich", you are right about that. And they say they fight capitalism, youre right about that too. But they were brainwashed to fight just one manifestation of capitalism (liberal capitalism) while promoting other, worse, more savage, manifestation of the same phenomenon, colectivist capitalism. By doing that, they fail to destroy the core materialistic worldview that allows capitalism to exist. Leftist cant destroy that worldview because they are patologically materialistic. Money and possesion of wealth are what moves their entire lifes. Leftist say they "fight" rich people but tend to be rich themselves. They want to convince people to kill every independent capitalist to concentrate their riches and create a super monopolistic capitalist. The notion than the power resides in the riches you own remains intact. What they do is to hegemonize the power by concentrating the ownership of the capital in a few hands (the Party, themselves).
The rest of your LOTR analogy is right, I just wanted to point that out because its important to stop propagating the notion that the left is the capitalism antidote or is some kind of anti-materialistic ideology.
Elijah Martin
Exactly this. Try, for example, to demand a leftist to relinquish his iPhone or stop visiting Starbucks to see what he'll answer.
Austin Cooper
They make it easy for me to say that they aren't even the same species as I am.
Logan Foster
nah has to be fake the dogs dead, dead tissue cant be grafted onto living tissue especially not one from a different species
Samuel Jones
Point taken. I should have said wealth/success instead of Capitalism.
Ethan Richardson
TruthSeeker is that you?
Wyatt Martin
The only good elf is a dead elf
Lucas Nguyen
Gondor's appearance is literally the Byzantines Empire's history
Jaxson King
No fucking way is that real
Nolan Brooks
Those sutures looks shallow enough to hold dog's remains on faggot's skin, without going too deep. And there's even a tube placed on his mouth to help breathing.
Either way, this is an aberration. A few hundred years ago, freaks like this would be put on mental institutions dungeons for his entire life.
Ryder Collins
70 years ago he would have been put in a mental institution a mask made of a dogs head is fucked up but understandable dissecting the head and sewing the dead flesh into your own skin is madness
Jose Myers
Your critique doesn't even make sense. The elves are an explicitly older race then men. Protestantism as a Catholic heresy.
Jayden Kelly
Dwarves are the jews of fantasy, tolkien even said that his dwarves were inspired by the jews
Ethan Watson
that's some really hardcore degeneracy
have some more
Joseph Hernandez
fuck that….. capitalism is the way. a true republic with a capitalist system
Noah Cooper
They remind me of hyperboreans while modern man is a mongrel race between hyperboreans and animal men (like hobbits or some shit).
Juan Wilson
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Dominic Cox
Are LoTR books enjoyable if I already saw the movies?
Sick in bed and want some comfy literature.
Mason Ortiz
…Nigga why are you here, reddit? Of course they fucking are. kys kys kys
Liam Morgan
Now think about those pieces of shit trying to fight a war against Ahmed and his wacky pack of jihadists. This is what happens when you let people grow thinking they're special snowflakes.
Easton Price
It's far better than the movies. The original books are essentially the uncucked version.
Brayden Miller
/r/ Trainroll
Lucas White
Wew.
Nicholas Cooper
Thanks friends. I'll get to work.
Hunter Ortiz
This. If you're on Holla Forums and haven't read it you should just end it all.
That means you unless you don't hop to it
Elijah Anderson
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Easton Gomez
Found the illiterate semite.
Gabriel Flores
KIKES
Colton Garcia
KHAZAD DÛM = KHAZAR DOMINION
Mason Moore
Tolkien was redpilled. Probably more than most of us. He knew the plans of the Mystery religion. He laid their plans for all to see. Pic related is so glaring, I'm not even explaining it. He clad it into an appealing fantasy mantle, similar to tales that are told by the fire by the elderly to the younglings. That's why it still resonates with people. Namely the destruction of the West with similar strategies as were used to destroy the Roman Empire(Western, Byzantines and Russia).
Yes, SJWs have paralels with orcs but you have to understand that Orc represent human dark side, not specifically flesh and bone people. It's also the elites. It's also all the shills in this thread. Everything that was once fair is now perverted into it's opposite. As above, so below. And as in all tales, there is ALWAYS the materialization of the righteous human good instinct to gather the tribe to fight against Evil. Aragorn isn't a man. He's a pure manifestation of all hopes and dreams of the Free people.
If you look at LOTR in an out-of-the-box/symbolic way, as the elites see it, you can see a manual for fighting against evil. Or any other epic pre-industrial age tale for that matter. That's why they perverted the Hobbit into that monstrosity. They couldn't afford another blow. LOTR was a major anti-Mystery religion work. Silmarillion on the other hand tells of the history of human kind. And Atlantis/Numenor.
Jaxon Perry
Kek, Capitalism is what's replacing our peoples with foreigners and turning us into mindless consumerist zombies.
Other than that it's a pretty good post. I will also add that I think the Elves were symbolising the memories of the old, dying age.
Camden Lee
Thanks Catholicbro.
Connor Nguyen
That Hideous Strength by CS Lewis is pretty redpilled too.
Cooper Bennett
Orcs can kick peoples asses though. These people are just losers.
Evan King
Immaterialist scum. Throw your computer out the window and go run around the forest naked like a primitive, if you hate it so much.
Jason Sullivan
Kill yourself and go live in the woods.
Chase Gomez
I'm not that user, so I'm not pointlessly pissy at the OP, but ya'll are fucking dumb if you don't understand what he meant by materialism.
Easton Scott
Orcs are cannon fodder that can't do anything without being in huge groups. Just like niggers.
Parker Wright
Read the Silmarillion
Ayden Thomas
You are fucking retarded.
David Cook
Oh I didn't know that I assumed it was a "THESE THINGS MANNN" thanks for correcting.
Dominic Reed
You're obviously a fucking retard who hasn't read the books. Read the books then compare the elf afterlife to the protestant (Anglican) afterlife. Then compare the human afterlife with the catholic. WOW! both comparisons are fucking similar. And then have some agency and compare Aragorn and Arwen with Tolkien and his wife. What races are they? Who converted who? It all adds up friendo
Jack Price
Who the fuck are you quoting? You are not Webster. You do not get to rewrite the dictionary with your own definitions you made up in your own head.
"immaterialism |ˌiməˈtirēəˌlizəm| noun the belief that material things have no objective existence."
Chase Rodriguez
Hopelessly enslaved, illiterate, perhaps both, but definitely butthurt about it.
Blake Sanchez
Nobody in particular. But if you're familiar with Marx's cancer theory of dialectical materialism and the retarded lefty panacea to the worlds problems that "po' people need mo' FREE SHIT" then it makes sense how something like National Socialism is not materialist.
Carson Campbell
You need goods(capital) stored to get by during the the winter. Concentration of material and concentration of power, on which civilization is built. Notice how no shitskins never get past the middle/metal ages mentally, even when they move into Western nations, since they were never forced to conserve/concentrate energy in order to be used in times when nature was not favourable. There's a reason why the West is in space age and the rest of the shitskin nations are basically scrounging for food. With the sole exception of Divine mandate East Asians, who are basically a stagnation civilization.
Matthew Campbell
ALL PRO-ELF CUCKS WILL BE HUNG ON DOTR
Landon Howard
Tolkien was a faggot. Fuck off, kike puppet.
Gabriel Fisher
The primary distinction between elves and men (really all the old races and men) is that men are not bound by their "doom" (fate), their stories were not revealed in the music of the Ainur. Does the protestant:catholic comparison map onto this distinction? Protestants being in some way bound by fate, while catholics are free to choose (and must choose in order to bring the world to final perfection)?
Ethan Cooper
No dude, I'm not arguing against the efficacy of economic systems. Capitalism works bretty good because it's an economic extension of social darwanism in a lot of ways. I was just clarifying what that one user who sperged for no reason was trying to say about materialism that nobody understood because it was a pointless spergy comment. The gist of it being that OP interpreted the "good" in Tolkien's work as "heirarchy and capitalism", which the other user criticized because what is truly valuable is immaterial qualities like honor, duty, tradition, and all the useful aspects of human culture which aren't tangible and yet are extremely useful.
Evan Ortiz
Lord of the Ring is not meant to be a fantasy world, it's the Europe around 18k years ago.
Asher Ward
I honestly don't know what that person started as
Blake Sanchez
I do I believe the medical term is 'afterbirth'
Brody Thompson
Tolkien didn't know any better.
Colton Cooper
You can't be too hard on so called "anti-racists" from this time. They have zero idea what it's like to live side by side with a bunch of shitskins, and they think getting along with other Europeans means getting along with anybody.
Wyatt Cox
>>>/tumblr/
Forget tumblr, move on directly to >>>/suicide/ faggot.
Lincoln Martin
Not this faggot again
Lucas Rivera
Ok, let's throw out Marx's historical materialism and go back to the older definition. So you guys are just brainlets
Colton King
Kill. Your. Self.
Wyatt Sanchez
ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!
Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.
The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.
Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.
What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?
How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?
And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?
But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.
They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
Kayden Sanchez
Exactly
How does that prove that my critique is false? You keep changing the subject shlomo
Nolan Clark
this is great
Jack Sanders
No user, you're stupid for being a materialist. Try to keep up.
Austin Harris
Nah mate, you're a faggot redefining words to suit your agenda. Fuck off to your commune.
Jaxson Bennett
trully prophetic
David Jackson
I dig it. I wonder why everyone hates it so.
Chase Johnson
LOTR was just a degeneration from Wagner's 4 opera ring cycle.
So Alberich forswears love and the natural order of thing for material gain. This is the essence of the Jewish faith. The followers have rejected Christ as the archetype of human behaviour, and decided to exploit and steal from their neighbour rather than loving them. And what is this power that allows him to constantly acquire gold, but practically invisible against those which he wields this weapon? It's usury (compound interest). Hitler realized it, and freed his countrymen from the oppressive Jewish shackles of debt slavery for a few years before Germany was crushed by the sheer size of the brainwashed ZOGbot allies.
Does Alberich not seem strikingly similar to Gollum?
Charles Walker
Well done op. You got slammed as hard as the pizza gate thread within the first 10 posts, clearly a good meme with triggering potential. Happened to me when I wrote the Fire Monkey origins post last year, shills went wild because they sensed something with legs. You don't even have to be up front in explaining this one, just fire up socks and start labelling elves and orcs appropriately, even half awake people will put it together themselves.
David Cox
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Dominic Peterson
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Hunter Phillips
MIRKWOOD FOR THE ELVES, MORDOR FOR THE ORCS, GONDOR FOR EVERYBODY!
Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the orcish horde pours into EVERY human country and ONLY into human countries.
Gondor and Rohan are just as crowded as Mirkwood or Erebor, but nobody says elves and dwarves will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of uruk-hai and quote assimilating unquote with them.
Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY human country and ONLY human countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those filth.
What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-orcs were brought into EVERY orcish country and ONLY into orcish countries?
How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the ORC problem?
And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho orc wouldn’t object to this?
But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the Numenorean race, Wizards and respectable dark lords agree that I am a nazgulwhowantstokillsixmilliondwarves.
They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-human.
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-human.
Isaac Campbell
Thanks, it is a pretty easy meme to meme because Orcs are in people's subconscious already. Whenever you see leftists displaying dyed hair, piercings, obesity, signs of the usual degeneracycle, calling them an Orc is a quick and easy way to insert "you're an abomination" into their subconscious and the subconscious of the normies observing.
It's hard to refute when it has truth, just like "cuck". "Liberals" isn't a bad-sounding enough label for them.
I also think we should also start referring to BLM as Uruk-hai. After all they are funded by Sorosman
Ryder Morris
march of the nu-males, dune people and the orcs when?
Nicholas Flores
Funny, just half an hour ago I finished re-watching the first LOTR movie and everywhere I noticed those patterns.
Nathan Reyes
Orcs are definitely not SJWs. Orcs aren't niggers, Orcs aren't muzzies.
Orcs are whatever you yourself view as the enemy. They are a perfect representation of the proverbial other. Tolkien himself based aspects of them on his own (unfortunate by his own admission) perception of the Germans during WWI.
Also
Ryan Hughes
It's not a straight analogy though.
Orcs do resemble the central powers specifically, but that's a result of the author's bias in applying a description to a race that is suppose to represent the "other".
Blake Gray
That letter is taken out of context. He wasn't outraged because they insulted MUH POOR WITTLE JOOS, he was insulted because just like everything else, the natsocs were dragging politics into something politics did not belong in.
It's also why he hated the ideology period, because he saw it as dragging the Norse mythos through the mud of contemporary politics.
He also hated the empire of Britain and believed they should go back to English borders. He hated the hatred the French gave the Germans, he hated the mistreatment of them by the Allies, he hated the syndies for attacking churches in Spain, etc, etc, etc.
Landon Sanchez
There should be a name for this type of posting.
Leo White
Obviously. Nowhere was I literal. Orcs are however perfect for memeing against SJWs and degenerates.
Orcs have a written history, they're not just le ebil bogeymen. Have you even read the literature? It doesn't matter what Tolkien said, he left us a perfect allegory we as meme wizards can interpret. The orc's fictional history and nature aligns strikingly with the degenerate Marxist, and reminds us vividly of what they are being pushed to become.
This is how I know you didn't read the thread
Brandon Watson
Allegory is shit and reduces the worth of the work itself.
I ignored your "muh capitalism is good/bad" autistic drivel because I don't care to discuss it. All I'm saying is that Tolkien was not a capitalist, nor would he defend the pursuit of wealth as orderly and prosperous.
Ian Harris
This person actually believes that we could just "print more money" to make everything better?
Is he 3, or a nigger?
Noah Turner
READ THE BOOK OF LOST TALES VOLUME I + II NEWFAGS
TOLKIEN UNIVERSE BEGAN WITH WOTAN, Holla Forums is Eriol
Jacob Davis
The animation is great thus far.
Dylan Jackson
Missed the aryan trips fuck
Benjamin Garcia
That's your opinion. I think Tolkien would have liked to know some of his work was used as part of the great meme war of our time.
I don't care. I'm not a fucking capitalist shill, I just meant whatever the fuck system we have that currently allows people the freedom to prosper, is hated by jealous bitter leftists, and we broadly call that system capitalism. Tolkiens opinions on it are irrelevant.
John Anderson
That's ok, If you want something Wotan actually foretold see this clip.
What is said is based off the Anglo Saxon poem called the Wanderer, like pretty much all of LOTR is from Celtic and Germanic mythos. You should translate yourself though if you want to know what it actually means.
Extra Credit: Translate Riddle 20 from the Exeter Book
Jack Jones
Uruk-Hai represented non-whites. If you are going to take the creation of orcs into consideration, the corruption of elves into orcs could be seen as the inhumanity and brutality dormant capable of all races of men.
Gabriel Perez
No it doesn't. Capitalism is as much a Jewish tool as Marxism.
Levi Jones
Are you in Somalia?
Nathan Foster
Explain?
Noah Scott
IEDF detected. Tree rats not welcome here. This is a dwarf supremacist board.
Aiden Morris
The Art of The Hobbit by J.R.R. Tolkien, 2012
Nathaniel King
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Aaron Foster
They are just a load minority pushed by certain outlets, either in intellectual support or clickbait media print. They are a like a red blanket, that is their purpose. They are here to subvert shit that is able to achieve something. Every leftist party is inherently self destructive, every right wing party is inherently a support system for the big boys.
William Smith
Do you have the original "le smug Swiss face" pic, by chance? I think i first saw it on /int/ a couple years ago
Sebastian Brooks
But the leftist friends will cry for the big government to enforce their shit and they got nothing but passive aggressive shit and some little psyduck quak they aquired.
And what i always hated was that vague bullshit talk, no precison, no surface for real critique so they hide in irony in dadaism and sophistry. Because at their core element they dont know, but wont let others know that.
Dwarves are jews, not even kidding. Tolkien specifically meant for them to be jews and depicted them positively for the most part. Not sure why anyone likes that hippy's shit.
Logan Sanchez
No they aren't and no he didn't. They loved working with their hands and creating things as much if not more than jewels. Have you ever known a jew to be a laborer?
Henry Harris
"Penfold, Colonel K has asked me to talk to you. He's been noticing some unusual changes to your daily wardrobe recently."
Chase Nelson
Sorry to ruin something from your childhood but here's a quote from Tolkien himself.
Everything about them was meant to represent jews. From their weakness for gold to them being driven out of their homeland by Smaug.
Joseph White
Right before he said that, he said
Kevin Howard
Elvish languages are modeled after Finno-Ugric, so they're modeled after non-Indo Aryan Europoid. Why he didn't model them after Basque still mystifies me. Both Elves and Men came from the East and trekked West for aeons to Middle-Earth though.
The Dwarves are what Jews are if they trade their linguistic intelligence with crafting intelligence. In all other purposes, they are the same.
Jaxon Morris
It is more like they dug too greedly and too deep and then the balrogs came without any collars.
Nicholas Lewis
You seem in denial user. I mean you're grasping for straws here as that statement was addressing a quite different question.
Tolkien then brought up the jews himself and also said hobbits are meant to be like rustic Brits.
Leo Rodriguez
Ofc you have to create certain charaters that stick with the audiences mind to give it a little extra immersion. So if you read lord of the rings you are proned to link this to your very own experience in an abstract way. That is why lord of the rings is epic, since the journey in the book encompases your own on an abstract way. He had "people on his hands" to work with, to make it work. A black transgender feminist riding on a vagina that has fingering steering elements wont strike a cord. Well it only works in a comical way of thought.
Nolan Bell
No he's not because Tolkien said many times the Secondary World is not an allegory. He based the language on certain real world ones, but the cultures and peoples within the world are wholly separate. They embody ideas, and are not suppose to be directly compared.
Faggots keep insisting on doing that though. Politics do not belong in myth. Politics and ideology are a modernist disease and do not mix or belong with old world tradition that Tolkien's writing is suppose to be placed in.
The work does not need to change to suit your needs. You must change to as close as possible embody the higher ideals the work presents you. This is the same with Tolkien's writing as it is with the Edda or Arthurian legend, or what have you.
Benjamin Mitchell
Tolkien made the comparison himself.
Parker Sanders
This site is rife with cryptokike degenerate staunch. Go blow your pink swastika out your asshole!
Jason Howard
Read letters of J. R. R. Tolkien, as well as the 12 volumes of History of Middle Earth, kike
Juan Young
Niggers, you do not know more about Tolkien than me, I assure you. Tolkien stated the work is not an allegory.
Any comparisons to be made are mode solely on the level of linguistics. In terms of the themes of the work, there is no direct comparison.
The war isn't WWII. The Orcs aren't niggers/shitskins/SJW/muhnatzis/Germans The Dwarves aren't Jews
You have themes present in the subcreation that mirror themes of other subcreations and of creation itself, but that is an inevitability because those themes are truth, and any good work will have those themes mirrored.
Things like good vs evil, virtue, courage, piety, etc.
Evan Hernandez
Sucking his dick a lot isn't the same as knowing a lot about him, I realize this is confusing to you.
Luke Edwards
I want to write something that makes the protocols of zion look like childs play.
Zachary Ramirez
As other anons already pointed out Tolkien made the comparison himself. The fact that he also said that his world was not a strict allegory is irrelevant. You're weaseling around pretending that "not an allegory" means no element can be intended as a symbolic of an element in the real world. Allegory is a complete modelling by the simple replacement of elements. "It's not an allegory" does not preclude there being any symbols referencing actual things. And if you think it does, or are so in denial over this for some reason that you'll continue to argue, incorrectly, that it does, once again, Tolkien made the comparison himself and you haven't, and won't deal with that fact because you're just being unreasonable.
Nicholas Harris
What the fuck are you talking about? Dwarves are nothing like jews. Read some Nordic folklore
Tyler Martinez
Dwarves in folklore in general may not be comparable to jews. Dwarves in Tolkien (the subject of this thread) are a lot like jews and Tolkien directly compared them to jews himself.
Joshua Hill
The only thing comparable with Tolkien's dwarves and jews is that they both love money.
Ethan Lee
They are also an ill begotten breed who were created by a demigod against the wishes of the over-god. Regardless, as noted several times in the thread already, Tolkien himself made the comparison, directly. That's why the other user called out your comment, and was right to, in the context of this thread.
sage because this is just dumb back and forth stuff at this point that's only tangentially related to the actual topic.
James Harris
All-right, I'll give you that. In Tolkien lore they are jewey.
Christian Clark
The jews will be an inspiration for us.
Carter Carter
Tolkien made the comparison of the language you daft bastard, he says it himself that the language is constructed to be Semitic For fucks sake he named the dwarves after the names of the Edda. To assume his dwarves are suppose to be an allegory for Jews because he also constructed their language out of Hebrew is disingenuous, not to mention the fact he did it to begin with so it would sound as different as possible from the elvish and mannish languages, which had the same root origin, whilst Khuzdul did not.
You've yet to provide anything proving anything is a direct allegory to anything else. As far as the dwarves go, read above.
As far as the Orcs go, they're whatever you want to project as your enemy. So sure, to most of Holla Forums they're niggers or muzzies, or the kike hordes of useful idiots. That's what you see them as. Go ask a Brit or a Frog stuck in a trench in WWI what he'd see them as, I assure you he'd answer a German. Go ask a German on the other side of no man's land, he'd also a Brit/Frog. Go ask an ANZAC at Gallipoli and he'll tell you a Turk And so forth.
You can argue, based on actual historical events, who is actually right. Honestly the closest any army has come to being the Orcs, at least for me, are either those that sieged Vienna, or the Soviet armies of WWII. Tolkien himself realized that modeling the Orcs, at least visually, on the Germans was a mistake. He tried to soften it by publicly regretting making them so evil. To me that's a mistake. The Orcs are evil, in the sense that they will always serve evil. Pity them all you like, but don't hold back in a fight. I think Tolkien captured that perfectly, even if he mistook who the Orcs actually were.
Noah Nelson
I haven't said anything about orcs and as the other user said you clearly don't even know the meaning of the word allegory. Nope, he also made the comparison of both jews and dwarves being dispossessed of their lands.
Jonathan Miller
How do you know she's epileptic?
Benjamin Phillips
Direct quotation:
Why are you in denial over this? Anyone can see you're just wrong. I don't really care, it's obvious you're wrong. It's just weird that you're so invested in them not being jews.
Aaron Bell
And yet he named the dwarves after the Edda and more so than their dispossession, what defines the dwarves mostly is the contrast between their type of courage against Bilbo's type of courage, which is a comparison between the old pagan warrior virtue, and the more modern English courage.
Regardless of the comparison Tolkien made, he was also adamant that real world comparisons did not fit in his work. Taking elements of creation into his subcreation, thereby imbuing his work with fundamental truths, is not the same as creating a direct by the numbers comparison, which is what you are implying the dwarves are
Because they're not, and making direct comparisons is the same cancer that lefties try to pull to justify injecting their poison. Shit like that got us Tauriel in the new trilogy.
Politics have no place in myth. If anything, myth inspires politics.
Isaac Brown
No, he was adamant that it wasn't an allegory, you really need to learn the difference.
Michael Gonzalez
The afterlife is just an extrapolation and therefore an sedative of what you cannot have here. That is what all religions count on. What you do not have here you will have later. And these motherfuckers will all come to the same conclusions. Imagine looking at tits, do you grow tierd of this? And every living second there is another pair of tits getting some grams of titmass stuck into them through force of nature. I dont think you want to miss that.
Owen Fisher
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Cameron Jenkins
If Dwarves were Jews, they'd make Orcs do the hard labor mining jobs.
Christopher Perry
Until the jews will realize by an axe in their heads that the orcs rather keep the gold to themselves than giving it to some misfigured merchants.
William Kelly
Well either way, our real life Jews wouldn't do half the manual labor that Dwarves do.
Landon Brown
They wouldnt since there is always a balance between manual labor and other stuff. Only retarded jews think that people with decent intelligence will be niggers that dig out their shit and only have the maintaince for a reward.
Adam Wilson
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Jose Ward
WHich at the same time reminds me of all that murcians that work from day to day, month to month and well nothing they will get out of that mine. I wonder if they have that decent intelligence to make out a pattern in this. And do not make that mistake that your intellectual leaders or any other piece of shit will share those patterns. I wonder where this american spirit is, since they claim to be the best of the best.
Ethan Nelson
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Angel Robinson
Which makes me think, that the americans after all are a slave nation, since they are too stupid to think for themselves.
Dont worry i dont give a shit about those idiots anymore.
Jonathan King
Fun fact: This is Ben Garrison's favorite meme
Cameron Watson
Thou Hypocrites! There is one, and only one way this book should be read and that is in the way the author intended, namely, in the Catholic sense. Of all the influences he drew on, his faith was the underlying drive for his inner inertia. LOTR is more powerful than the "fact" of history because it acts allegorically. The allegory, of course, is representative of the spiritual history of mankind, in particular, that of the Semitic and Pagan European and their eventual transformation into Germanic/Anglo Catholicism.
With this made clear we can begin to regard Orcs in their true sense. In Tolkien's mythology Orcs are seen to have their origins from the corruption of Elves who are the "Elder" race (i.e. The original chosen people of the true God). One must remember, the early members of this "tribe" were a true, holy people; But the power of evil is strong and corrupts, especially in the holiest of people. It is also important to remember that "Man" in the Tolkien universe is a creation of the self same God that created the Elves. Are we seeing the allegory now? A people chosen by the true God are corrupted and fail in receiving his word, only to be passed on to a "second-people" (A literal translation of the word "Atani" given to Man by Elves) after a long time of lying dormant. But these second people are also seduced by the same power that corrupted their spiritual fore fathers. And Tolkien tells the rest of the story. I wonder which "King" they are referencing in "Return of the King"? Pic Related lads.
It is still advent, brothers in Christ, and just as St Paul pleaded to the romans, so i plead to you, you are all beloved of God and called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ. It is still advent, and what perfect time to repent, confess and find your way again. The way of your people when greatest.
Grayson Bailey
Should I name my son Reinhard? Bretty dank name.
Isaac Kelly
If you are German then yes.
Ryder Richardson
And we go in here barebacked and then we determine who is the strongest.
I want to create something that aligns reality with creativity.
Your dank shit is just a mirror what people really think. You can say dank, dank all you want but that is what people think. No matter how smug you are.
Christopher Peterson
Nice memeing, son.
Leo Long
No matter how much you hide behind your memes, i will always find you and your coping mechanism. I will always find it.
Ethan Torres
What are you talking about my dude
yes, aiming for at least 5 kids
Cooper Campbell
I m talking about the ultimate version of assfucking.
Jack Anderson
Do it then.
Jacob Roberts
If you look through C.S. Lewis's writing, it's pretty thoroughly littered with warnings about degeneracy.
I'm willing to bet he and Tolkien saw this coming and tried to warn us through their works.
Jack Cox
Top 5 of these?
Franz Reinhardt Siegfried Alexander Muller Robert William Julius Stephan Augustus/Augustine (Gus) Vilhelm/Willhelm Assuming they're all boys, if they're not I'll just throw them away :^) and yes, I am autustic.
Oliver Butler
Franz Siegfried Willhelm Julius Alexander
Also smh
Ryan Wood
Dude throw that shit away. It covers up one of the paragraphs.
Oliver Thompson
I like the way you think user.
Easton Adams
There is nothing more powerful than giving an accurate prediction, like the equivalent of dressing nicely and talking in an charming matter. And those hindsight whatever bias cunts look dilettantes, because that is what they are and always will be.
Luke Ward
Some cool old German girl names:
Daniel Edwards
You can have hierarchy without capitalism. Tolkien hated capitalism and socialism.
Zachary Garcia
Not very feminine tbh
Luke Peterson
Where the fuck are you from cunt? All of those sound feminine to me and I'm not even fucking German.
Thomas Bennett
Putting an -a on the end feminizes the name sure, but it's a masculine name to begin with. Does putting an -a on John make it any more feminine? Johna? Not really. Would you name your son Sofie? Kaitlon? Hey, maybe I'm just a nigger but that's how I see it.
Asher Nelson
so who was tom bombadil and the ents, and who were the americans?
Carson Johnson
Hitler never shows up and is in fact dead by the time the anime begins. However Jesus Christ of Nazareth is heavily implied to be the true villain
Jeremiah Perry
Disgusting. There are so many more awesome German names.
Jeremiah Wood
First pic is funny. The shirt says fuck off, but you know that inside she is crying for attention. People like her need to be actively ignored by everyone until they're gone. We'll all gladly fuck off away from you princess.
Nolan Morris
it's mostly because of one of my grandfathers.
Oliver Hill
Regardless, people are going to make that connection anyway. Every time you introduce your son you'll be bombarded with "HURR YOU NAMED YOUR SON AFTER AN OVERWATCH HERO XDDD". Trust me, there's plenty more to choose from.
Nicholas Johnson
Those are just Germanic names man. Stop being so nitpicky about other languages.
Dylan Hall
Nigger no one is going to remember overshill in a year or two.
Jack Smith
She'll poke holes in her face and inject ink under her skin in a desperate attempt for attention and love, but she won't put down the mcnuggets and pick up a dumbbell.
Grayson Edwards
Allegory is applying real world comparisons to the fiction rather than finding the fiction in real world events (applicability)
Lucas Jenkins
What if we make the connection to everybody. Since our words and our images are so incredibly potent that they will illuminate the night sky if we just will it?
Lincoln Jones
What will happen if i told you that you fucking faggots are capable of assfucking the whole world, and not just by the tip of your dick. All the way.
Brody Gomez
(heiled) Not me, that's for fucking certain.
Adam Lee
What if i told you that you can combine something that your faggot minds are easily capable of with something that is sincere? What if i told you that you will derive the greatest pleasure from it, just by the blunt thought that you can actually influence reality, just out of spite.
Asher Stewart
What if i told you that the greatest minds cant wrap their heads around this. What if i told you that i give them only a little piece so they rotate in their little sphere. What if i told you that you give a little bit of you to make history, and if doesnt happen you will get called a faggot anyway. High risk low reward.
Christian Hall
What if i told you that you can break shit, just break it. Insert your mind into breaking shit, anything you like. Just to wreck shit.
Jonathan Foster
holy jesus this is amazing
Nolan Moore
Man, stop being so goddamn obvious, kike.
Dylan Lee
Hi kike, first day on the job? Maybe try an easier place like 4jidf or yahooanswers to shill instead of here
Wyatt Williams
C.S. Lewis overall is pretty redpilled. The final book of the Chronicles of Narnia was about the end of their world, kicked off by a chimp that dressed a donkey as Aslan, their god who took the form of a lion, and created the world through mere words. The degeneracy became so great that the world came into annihilation.Also the witch in LWW wasn't human, she was part of an ancient race of giants rumoured to be spurned by Lilith who had brought their own civilization to destruction, brought over through a multiverse-forest of portal pools That shit is a fantastic children's series, I'm making my kids read it when I have them.
Carter Lewis
Most of C.S. Lewis' writing is either Christian allegory or apology, and the guy knows how to make a pretty solid logical argument. The Chronicles of Narnia run parallel to events, figures, and paradigms of the Bible. FYI, both Tolkien and Lewis belonged to a society called the "Inklings"
Noah Brown
While magnificient and in his own words perhaps even a divinely inspired work, I sadly have to point out one or two inaccuracies.
Elves being ancient Whites correct. Orcs being degraded humans, maybe even having once been Whites and somehow mutated, correct.
The Dwarves are shown as subterranean dwelling and industrious folk who have a perchant to mechanics. The real world population wouldn't be the Jew - it should've been the Magyars. One of their most central hymns and an alternative to their anthem is Bânyâsz himnusz, literally Miner's song, depicting the life of a Magyar.
The Magyars seem to be descendants of the Sumerians, latter of whom have taught the Ancient Egyptians how to build the pyramids.
Daniel Baker
Tolkien (and Lewis) both had an accurate gauge of Islam as being evil as fuck.
Most of his thoughts on the Fourth Age were that white kids would act like and adopt Orcish names, and it depressed him so much he stopped writing it.