Thought I would post this here as it seems the most appropriate

How so?

This is as close as you will get for a traditional Lutheran body stateside
wels.net/

Yeah, it's an evil christian conspiracy. The Jews are irrelevant.

I awnsered Hitler's call and I am now a proud religious Nationalsocialist.

link please.

i, too, was going to look in AFA. do they have a listing of local groups on their website, bc I couldn't find it?

its just a matter of emphasis. pretty much everything is written in the bible, so if you just focus on certain verses and ignore others then you come up with a religion that focuses on struggle, honor, loyalty, warrior values… and often a bunch of issues that are implicitly white (not in the spencer way, but like nationalism, anti-immigration, etc). one i went to even decorated their christmas tree with the circle-cross

interesting. i'll check it out. I would suggest looking into the nondenominational churches. their doctrines can vary widely, like I explained above

I've never felt as calm as I feel in the woods.
Sitting by a lake one day I started thinking about hagalaz, I was in a pretty bad place, unfit and depressed.
So the rune of change jumping into my mind was predictable.
The forrest spoke to me, the wind went from nothing but a breeze to a strong gust as several birds started cawing.

The next day the first hail of the year fell, hard and plentyful.
I started lifting soon after and haven't been this well since I was a child.

Since then I've seen other signs and I know the gods are real.

I think the only complete man is a man of faith.

That's like saying Romans are a Greek sect.

Just remember that the old ways are not a "religion" where you bow and worship some otherworldly force. The gods are our ancestors. Their nature lives in this world through our blood and our deeds. All men Man linguistically means the white race, and does not refer to kikes dindus and mongoloids can be great, and it is our duty to be absolutely true.

Actually it's a kike conspiracy to diffuse and dilute nationalist and "right-wing" movements with DC tactics. They want to cause infighting and sympathies towards their own goals. Read the fucking stratfor emails. Just type "judeo-christian" into wikileaks.

No, what?

Here is one. I should really save these when I find them, so I can respond faster. This is the one I first read, but this shit is everywhere on wikileaks. wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/09PRAGUE332_a.html

Didn't know there were e-mails 2000 years ago. Man the internet is old.

nice blog

This isn't a bad thread, but it really belongs in
>>>/polblog/

vs jews and christians?
you know the earliest christians ALL had to be originally jewish right?
they didnt accept non-jews into their kike fold until one of their apostles said they should and started taking non-kikes into their ranks
the other apostles were mixed on the subject what with all 12 disciples of christ also being kikes
Christianity is talmudism mixed with some elements of traditional European religious customs and rituals and some of the more overt kikery dropped from the book

You obviously weren't serious about it. You didn't do your homework and joined a heretical cult led by a commie, user. Are there no Orthodox churches where you live?

Eh, I just woke up and wasn't at my best. Old shitposting habits, but the documents are real and they talk about subverting groups like us. Fuck, it's the knights templar doing this too. Wish I was full of shit, but its there.

TEMPLI HIEROSOLYMITANIâ„¢
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR INTERNATIONAL
SWISS REGISTRY CH-660-1972999-4

I am also active in the NATO Grand Priory in Europe and have attended
convocations from Latvia to Rome to Buenos Aires. Our convocations are
generally held in conjuction with the meetings of the CIOR (NATO reserve
officers association) and UPORFA (South American reseve officers).

Religion should reflect who you are as a person. You won't successfully adopt a spiritual path without first exploring who you are, what your individual needs are, what your real goals are in this life and etc. Otherwise you rely on the religion to impart all of these things upon you, but if the religion is bad, you become bad. So it may be wise to avoid spiritual traditions and focus on the foundations of spirituality. For 3 months try the following:

These things are designed to re-align your psyche back to center. You can't go to the left or to the right if you're not starting out in the center. After three months I recommend you study different religions, especially those based in your own heritage. After you've studied 5 major world religions, including one or two from your own ancestors, choose one of those religions to experiment with for one year. Practice the religion daily. Believe what it teaches. After the year is up decide if the religion is entirely right, partly right or complete bullshit. If it's partly right, then take the parts you consider correct and experiment with another religion while maintaining the values of the former. If it's bullshit, move on to another system. If it's entirely right, congrats! You're where you belong at least until you aren't.

Google: Zoroastrianism

Whilst the early church was primarily of hebrew stock; it had been prophesied long before that God would save all people. God corrected the erroneous ideas of the early Church in regard to the 'Israel-only' stuff, and using that as a reason to hate Christianity and the good news of Jesus Christ is quite simply idiotic.

Isaiah 49:6

Nature comes from the Creator. Forests are a hallowed place to Christians too, the only difference being that rather than worshiping the forest or that which dwells in it; we worship He who created it. I too love spending time alone in the wild.

Is that why they cut down trees to "prove" European religion is fake? It is just another Semitic cult that brings its desert with it wherever it spreads.
Christianity, like other Semitic religions is not compatible with the nature's law and if you genuinely believe that it is, you don't understand your own religion.

Fucking tool. Can you not hear the cognitive dissonance in your own words? Read the damn stories passed down by your ancestors before you denounce them. Our people honour our ancestors and the forces that make this world, we bow to none of them.

Odinism is fit for any germanic people (french, english, germans, nords, etc) If he's descended from southern european latins, the graeco-roman pantheon would be more fitting.

Cutting down groves dedicated to devils is a little different to cutting down forests. Europe still has many forests, and those we lost were due largely to industry; not because they were an affront to God.

The Lord created nature and we live by His laws.

I see in you the taint the talmudist. A creature who desires to worship itself and its ancestors in place of the eternal God who created us.

Did you not know that is exactly what the problem with jews is? It is their self-worship, it was always their self worship. The talmudist believes himself the equal of God in heaven. Your worship of blood and ancestry leads to the same place. That is not to say we cannot be proud of those who came before, it is not to say we should not defend what they gave us or work to make it; and it is certainly not to say we should give it away to others. But we do not worship them or ourselves; that would be to do as the jew.

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To be fair, our peoples stretched all the way to the deserts north of tibet. Shit, sages who were being forced out of the eastern stretches of our territory went to tibet even. The tibettan monks venerate the Aesir as DharmaPalas.

afa website
asatrufolkassembly.org/

See, this stuff sounds nice and all, but where is the discipline? Where is the emphasis on order and loyalty to your own? Where is the church militant? The old church emphasized these things, the new one and its adherants? Not so much. If they wish to be this wishy washy I say we return to our roots, our gods, the real ones who mean business not some false, worthless white christ. Christianity sold us out to foreigners, look at Germany which has a fuckload of shitskins raping and pilaging and whats the church doing? Encouraging it!
I say enough is enough.

Reddit spacing, and you think the ways of our ancestors is kikery, yet worship and kneel to a fucking kike nailed to a stick. Are you fucking retarded? No, seriously, how absolutely ridiculously retarded does a creature have to be to believe this shit? Fuck, that's the problem with you cucks. You put belief and faith as commendable attributes. Those are slave attributes. You're a fucking nigger to think like that. Try Pride, Honour, and Heritage. A proud man thinks for himself. An honourable man considers his actions and his words. An man who remembers and values his heritage, is guided and strengthened by the deeds and words of his ancestors.
You, are a slave.
We are men.

In the end, its the same forces, just different names. None of them are semitic in nature, thats what is important.

So you're saying that European religion is devil worshipping? And cutting trees to mock the religion and traditions of my ancestors is a clear evidence that Christianity doesn't acknowledge anything sacred in nature and its laws.
Not to mention that its universalism and egalitarianism alone makes it as anti-nature as it can get. You are a race traitor and a liar, unless you're a Semite in which case you're just a liar.

If you believe the fairy tales in your Jew book you certainly are. Not people like me though, we choose religion of our ancestors over a foreign Semitic cult.

Don't worry, brother.
The christcucks will continue to give our ancestral gods and spirits strength with the pagan rituals they could not do without (the less pagan a denomination, the less followers in Europe).

Even if millions of them think they're celebrating christmas.
Even even just one of us observes them, knows about them actually celebrating yule, is enough to keep it going.

Along with all the other things they do.

Hopefully they will wake up again, but Americans especially seem prone to clinging to the semitism, because they're away from the homeland.

Hate to break this to you friend, but the AFA is completely cucked by flufftard neopagans who don't have a damn clue. If you want to find others like us, just be proud, wear a hammer, and talk to people who seem honorable. I've never trusted the AFA, even before swallowing the redpill. I have though, met many of our kin in my daily life. I can't even vend to shops I am a craftsman without people recognizing their kindred in the care of what I make with my hands, and then call me brother.
In other words, go meet people and be social, if you'r true to yourself and your path, you'll find others who walk it with you.

I agree with much of your well-written post, but wanted to ask if you've considered the other side of:

We can't prove either way if one God or many exist, but we can prove which of those two concepts is best for the individual and for the society, i.e. which religion produces unity and which elitism. Have you considered which of these perspectives benefits the individual and society the most, regardless of which may or may not be true? In my own pondering I've concluded that a belief in a single God is the most beneficial for a society, because the society must be united. It's much more difficult to unite people under a single long-term goal, like perfecting society, if everyone is occupied with their own wants and desires. It's from these wants and desires we find Paganism birthed. A woman desires a baby, so she prays to a goddess of fertility for help as a last resort. A man wants to be strong and good, so he worships Odin or Zeus. On the other hand, if the goal of society is to perfect itself, then the citizens worshiping a single all-good, all-perfect God is ideal, because the society will strive towards being all-good and all-perfect.

But this brings me now to the individual.

On the personal, microcosmic scale, we are creatures of wants and desires. Even desiring to not desire anything at all is a desire. We can not escape our Nature. On this scale the worship of a single God often leads to disaster, because the worshiper is ultimately reduced to a type of slave for the God, a servant. When the one God is recognized Nationally, like when we say we're "one Nation under God," this unites a society because it doesn't place any personal burden on any individual member. But the worship of the same one God by an individual always results in a slave mentality. The fix for this problem of monotheism is the creation of agents such as angels. These beings are usually considered mere manifestations of the God within all four monotheistic religions. While they may appear to the worshiper as having their own Intelligence, most theologians agree they're will-less manifestations of the Godhead. Why do we do this? Because, again, the individual worship of a single God results in chaos. And so the psyche, knowing this, filters the concept and divides it into smaller concepts, such as angels. For example, its hard to imagine a being who is both entirely loving and entirely hateful, because God - being all - must be both. But its not too difficult to imagine a being who is all-hate. Like Satan. This is how our minds naturally create polytheism out of monotheism; we've evolved to be polytheistic on a personal level, and the mind will naturally default to polytheism when forced to adopt an unnatural belief in personal monotheism.

tl;dr
on a National level monotheism is beneficial while on the personal level polytheism is beneficial.

What do you all think about this?

To all the christcucks who actually believe in the bible:

John 4:20, you genitally mutilated (even though you don't have to, but pretty much no Christians know this) backstabbing traitor faggots who put your jewish volcano demon above your actual brothers and sisters, as well as your rightful spirituality and myths.
Well, if you weren't still practising them under a different name.

Which benefits neither Yahweh, who knows that it is not of his customs, if he does exist, which I doubt (always acting mysteriously).
Nor you, because you have made yourself deaf and blind with a semitic mind virus that has brought nothing but division among our people.
Well, along with all the torture, killing, pillaging of your own holy sites.

Shameful, tragic.

i'll fight on no matter what.

i'll let this slip, a lot of asatruar I know are masons. They have some semetism, but you get into branches like york rite? ohhh thats where it becomes a lot more European. More than a few Anglican bishops are freemasons, I know one IRL. Cool guy, hates degeneracy.

Well, we have many gods but we have one who's in charge why? Because he is wise.

Also
Christianity killed so many of our own people with infighting that it made the invasions possible in the first place.

Tragic greeks, they thought it was just another cult like many.
Tragic.

Very true. Why is he wise? It is perhaps because we ourselves desire Wisdom, and so our God[s] are projections from our own psyche - an Image of what we ourselves desire to become.

Bullshit.
You will always fight harder the bigger your loving family it is.

Case in point:
Despite the countless atrocities against our rightful religion, it is still not dead.
And people back then got burned, put on the wheel, drowned, as well as tortured.

And they still couldn't get rid of it.

They even had to adopt pagan things to even stay accepted.
Renaissance is full of pagan symbolism.
And the less pagan a denomination is, the fewer followers it has, in Europe, anyway.

He hung himself on yggdrasil, sacrificing himself to himself then going to helheim for knowledge and the runes. Look at jesus, he emo bitched the whole time for a bunch of ingrates, the allfather did what he did not only for himself, but to give runes of power and concepts to primordial man, us.

Monotheism is only beneficial if you nation is composed of braindead sheep who can't think for themselves.

He was a jew, through and through.
The mad authors of that vile book really wrote him well.

The donkey wasn't even done eating his placenta before that happened.

sage

meanwhile our gods tell us to grow the fuck up.

Glad to heart we är eye to eye on the divinity of the forrest. It's like von List said:

"One must flee those places where life throbs and seek out lonely spots untouched by human hand in order to lift the magic veil of nature"

See* eye to eye

I ain't even christian.

You have the intellectual depth of a puddle and your search will be infinite, as you look for yourself outside of yourself. Give up your narcissism or suffer forever.

Are you even pure European OP? Cause /asatru/ is full of nothing but "American" mud bloods that think they're white, so I'm assuming you're the same.

If you aren't pure then you're nothing but a larper, no better than a wiccan and the rest of /asatru/.

You are the second person who has said that about Jung. Interesting. Maybe I'll give his work a read.

I hate to be that person but I'm going to say it anyway: The majority of people are assholes. Christianity is a mainstream majority religion here in America so it's a numbers game of how many dummies you encounter. Chances are you will run into many.

You are right about the idea of Christianity of being good. And most of these people really do need the structure and moral outlines, so I won't bash it. But please don't go into it thinking it's a secret club of enlightened redpilled people who have all of the answers. To get anything in that regard takes a lot personal "god finding" which you can do alone with a bible and effort on your end to find those few people who can give you what you need on the social church level.

You have to walk through a lot of weeds to get to the flowers so to speak.

t. Atheist who was raised in both Catholic and Protestant environments

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He did none of it for himself. Read the Children of Odin for lore, and Futhark for some more understanding.

there is some audio recordings of his stuff on youtube

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/asatru/ is fucking cancer they are better than wiccatruars but still, it's all shitposting and they keep spamming about some faggot they call foky.

It was better a month back but now it's dying.

Those videos are amazing. I used to watch them every night before I went to sleep to understand whatever phenomenon I was experiencing.

That and the Alan watts video on Jung.

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And you think the Measurer would have you?
Do you think you can just become a follower of the Measurer?
Don't you know the Measurer has never wanted followers.

Try one of his sons, but be distrusting of Thor for he may help your enemies if he feels they deserve it more then you. If he helps you then you could not do it on your own and would be nothing to the eye that stares at you from the dark.

Stop appropriate my cultural history you fucking faggot.

If it doesn't work for you OP, you should try an Orthodox Church. Orthodoxy doesn't have the same issues the other churches have. The Russian Orthodox know damn well what's at stake after having barely survived communism.

Out normie, out!

If you think you have it better than Catholicism you really don't know what you're talking about

culturally, they pretty much are. I'm not getting your point

If you look at the old Roman migration story they said they were Trojans but of course in the Trojan war all the Greek States ganged up on them because they controlled access to the wheat markets.

There is even linguistic evidence to back up where they originally came from, even stranger than that the Etruscans may have been distance lost cousins of these Roman/Trojan(s)

The Hittites knew of the Trojans, and from that the Egyptians learned. Further the remains of what could be said is Troy is near where the Romans created their new and strongest Empire, of which they ruled as if they had never left, even by accounts during Constantine's time the religion hadn't changed much either or ever did.

The russian orthodoxy is a joke and a spiritual wasteland the patriarch owns a yatch and fucks prostitues in saunas. You slavboos need to stop being faggots

Kek is a natural force, manifest. There is nothing preventing one to work with kek, while sworn to Odin.

That's pretty typical of Slavic culture actually, the Slavic priest was always seen as a magician, a useful one would have large families and a guarded realm. Unlike in our Germanic culture the priest is to survive not by the deeds of others but only by the gods.

If you've traveled to small communities in Lithuania, you'll find the families still know ancient prayers. Some of the meanings are unknown but they still sing the songs.

Ok, I'll put this in perspective, user.
Saying Romans are Greek is akin to saying…
Americans are English.

Perhaps we should start a new polack approved Heathenry board? Odin taught us genocide you know. See any dwarves? Frost giants?

What? Balts are not slavs first off secondly trying to explain away priest being corrupt pieces of shit is a new low RIDF

Their Pantheons are almost the same now, maybe once that wouldn't have been true.

And from my Germanic perspective my thoughts exactly those Slavs are corrupt pieces of shit.

But all and all it's a real shame the Eastern Orthodox thinks Africa is such a great place, I guess they gotta get those souls before the Catholics do.

It'd be terrible if they thought it a good idea someday to bring the hordes of Africans to Europe one day?
Europe wouldn't be able to muster enough to fight them because they are holy niggers and no such as race or w/e.

Those priests do have some great looking African Icons.
It's like "we wuz" in canonical form.

yeah, but until recently at least they pretty much are. i still don't get your point. In fact, Americans are more English than Romans are Greek bc America was actually founded by Englishman, just like Christianity was founded by Jews.

You're losing this argument user

okay…

You probably only saw the Novus Ordo, not real Catholicism, which does exist in the US. Listen to this mostholytrinityseminary.org/sermons.html. Most are ignorant of Catholic history and some just don't care about the Truth, but those who seek find.

This is not an argument, it's a conversation. The goal is understanding and truth, not petty posturing.

so what would his people's faith be? wotan is the same as odin and alk

lol what no way that's in the bible