Would the middle east been better if it remained christian?

Because the middle east is muslim, pederasty is high and the women cant date because of their islamic shit religion. What if the middle east remained either eastern or oriental orthodox or nestorian would it had been more liberal than the middle east today?

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They'd still be shitskins regardless of which gods they follow.

Christcucks please.

It would possibly be less expansionist and violent, but it would still be full of shitskins.

the real question is what was it like before the Bedouins and Jews took over?

It probably was whiter.

Jorjani pls go.

definitely.

Semites do really fuck everything up

Probably less inbred and maybe not as stagnated culturally and scientifically.

This shit is so fucking cherrypicked.

Silly question. Arabic Christianity, which was Non-Trinitarian and rejected the influence of Hellenic philosophical thinking spawned Islam in the first place.

copts need a bump for sure

That's the point. It's the last vestiges of our previous range.

If I showed you a photo of white South Africans would that also be cherrypicked?
These are just the few people in the middle-east that managed to preserve their racial heritage.

The problem with the Middle East is it's a non-white shit hole. Christianity wouldn't have change that. The Arabs would still be violent savages. The problem is race, religion is secondary and just an excuse for them. This is why Christina sub-Saharan Africans are just as savage as the Muslims ones.

It still is if you take Arabs away.
Muslims are in majority the descendants of Arabs that zerg rushed and zerg multiplied in this region after Mohammad and his generals conquered it. The rest of the Christian churches are still there, since Muslims were quite tolerant to them and preferred conquering regions by fucking like rabbits and displacing the population. The rest got taxed and couldn't afford as much kids as the locust.

See Kosovo and Albania in Europe for older examples. GB, Germany, France and Sweden YES for newer ones.

Then why didn't the Arabs try to conquer Europe BEFORE islam came into existence?

About the same I'd wager. Culture comes from the blood, not from which dusty old desert prophet you follow.

The Mohammedmen are Christian.
It's called heresy OP, they'd be goat fucking savages with murderous minds even if they were Buddhist

Becouse uniting under a monotheistic religion around a warlord prophet is a good way to conquer a lot of territory by the sword. Especially since that was also the start of the Middle warm period and there were too much men everywhere. Similar to European migrations in the same framework.

Early Christianity spread becouse of the message of equality and peace in a decaying and degenerate Empire.
Early Islam just butchered everyone that opposed.

Of course it would. Look at the way it was in the short years it became Christian before mudhammock started raping everyone and their goats. Turkey used to be Greek, and was one of the seats of power of Christian thought. Mudslides burned it all down and raped the land. Had Christendom been a thing by then nd they'd repell the goat fuckers, the middle east would have likely had large Greek influence. It would most likely look like the more enriched parts of Greece today, irresponsible spending and corrupt to the core, but not goat fucking, murderous pedophiles. The >lechristcucksXD crowd is either straight out shills or reddit tier fedoras who think they're edgy because they're Internet natziez, so they don't have to actually know any history or advanced philosophy/theology, because much hwhite raise.

the christian communities in the middle east are peaceful af

Or maybe we oppose the idea of worshipping a fucking kike. I hate jews so why would I want to be part of a religion that is based off judaism AND in which most major prophets were jewish themselves?

Okay, what ever you say Moshie. Have fun brownwashing history you fucking kikes.

Short answer OP? Probably.
Long answer? I'm sure the jews would have ethnically cleansed them at some point, either bay ways of contracting another race (probably chinese) to elminate them instead of the tribal mountain semites (mudshits) which they did in our reality.

Again, the crowd is made up of people who don't know what the fuck they're talking about but they're entitled to have a strong opinion on things because much hwhite master raise doesn't need to read anything.

Sumeria was the last white civilization in the middle east. The whole area was thoroughly brown long before Christianity was even a glint in a rabbi's eye, user.

Goat herders have destroyed everything.
Their goats graze everything to the ground, no sapling is allowed to come up and the gras cover is ripped out. It is a tragedy. The mudslimes are worse than abbos in this respect. It took abbos tens of thousands of years to destroy the whole of australia, but the goathoarders in their blind attempt to increase their prestige have managed to do it in just a few centuries In the middle ages many parts of the middle east were still green gardens, full of forests and springs. Tunisia was like Italy and Spain, egypt had massive grasslands, but as soon as you cross from southern spain to Morocco and algeria, all you see are dry lands, salt pans, sand and deserts.

If someone wanted to destroy north africa, this is what they'd do, but the mudslimes have been doing it to themselves for centuries. In white, christian, continental europe, people were only allowed to collect brushwood and cutting down trees was severely restricted. Gaddafi knew about this and wanted to regrow Libya's medival forrests, but Obongo and his Overlords put a stop to his green revolution.

Yes, but before it was brown it was white, user.
Sumeria was the last white civilization yeah, then it was diversified (whites where still there). But Sumeria wasn't the first civilization in the ME either. See Gobekli Tepe and that more recent Egyptian city being found.

The Middle East was originally white. Until we were kicked out by the jealous kikes.

But without those forests how else are we supposed to get their oil?!

Just like india and persia. If there's one thing whites need to learn it's that a caste society is not a solution.

No, no it's not…..
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Judaism wasn't even a thing back then. It was purely Talmudism and an oral tradition. Jesus denounced and fucked the Pharisees' shit up every chance he had.

Good, let the hate flow. You're an easily manipulated sheep that way.
>>>/4cuck/

Those same goat herders let the entirety of North Africa go fallow and back into the desert. The Romans and several Levant people before then made it a beautiful crescent valley of arable land though major irrigation works.

That's not a fucking argument, all you do is call people stupid without explaining why you think they're stupid. Christcucks are no better than leftists or muslims for that matter.

So you're telling me I should love jews? I should be the one redirecting you to cuckchan you filthy kike.

Just like Christianity cant fix African countries even though some of them are 95% devoted Christians the same would happen in the middle east the idea that a bunch of semitic and abrahamic values and teaching from an old book can fix shitskin or niggers is delusional.

Yes but you're forgetting. Before Kikes were jews they were semites.

Judiasm is both a religion and a race.

You mean Talmudism. Which is then broken up into two ethnicities: Semitic and Ashkenazic.

Semitic and Ashkenazic.

Good but equating the religion of your ancestors to fucking Islam is not only shiptar tier taqiyya but also race treason.

There were two main branches of Christianity at the time of the islamic conquests, the Monophysite Churches (egyptian copts) and Chalcedonian. Within the Byzantine empire there was a lot of friction between the two schools of thought, so much so that there was outright violence between rival bishops over churches and holy places. The monophysites were persecuted quite heavily by the Byzantine government, so much so that even under Islamic persecution it was less than what the emperor had been doing.

While it would have remained "christian" the doctrinal splits were tearing apart the empire and the conquests of Islam solved one problem for the Chalcedonian church in that it didnt have the monophysites brewing up dissent any longer. Even without islam the likelihood of those regions remaining part of the empire were slim in the long run, at least not without multiple violent rebellions against onerous taxation and failure to defend from sassanian persian aggression.

Pre-Islamic arabs were never any threat to established powers. The only reason Islam got as large as it did so quickly was because the Romans and Sassanians had just finished 30+ years of brutal warfare, had no armies left, empty treasuries, and had earned the ire of everyone in the levant and egypt due to excessive taxation, raiding, looting, counter raiding, more taxation, and religious persecution. When the arabs united under Muhammad they were able to take advantage of the weakened state of both empires and conquer vast territories with ease AND have the support of the population, as muslim taxes were much much lower at first due to having no bureaucratic overhead to pay for.

Your question is very reductive in that it makes the false assumption that the middle east was at one time Christian.

There used to be all sorts of different religions chilling together in the middle east before Islam wiped them all out.
Not just Christians but pagans, buddhists, Hindus, Juice and many more.
All wiped out in record time by the muslims.

for discussion i would like to illustrate that the total islamification of the middle east is a fairly recent thing
mostly driven by massive population growth of the most inbred goatfuckers the cause of which was the export of european technology to underdeveloped peoples who didn't know what the implications were

these graphs were the ones i have on hand but the trend is the same for most current countries in the middle east
it toke untill the 60's-70's for the population in the middle east to reach the roman heights in very fertile regions of the world, this is the level of incompetence islam represents

for added benefit type in cairo 1960 into google and see just how much that place descended into the medieval period

Those are Persians you're thinking of.

Wrong
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_ethnic_divisions

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jews
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sephardi_Jews
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mizrahi_Jews

Exactly
you fucking retard

Albania is the geneticly most secluded place in all of Europe. Look it up. They barely fucked outside of their homeland since Roman times. Sorry to disapoint you. But the countries you reffer to are all in North Africa. And even there the Arab influence is often overstated. East of Egypt was to far away for both the Arabs and later the Turks to outnumber.

Not true, almost all the major cities in the levant were populated with Greeks and other hellenized colonists from the balkans. The countryside was full of semites like the phoenicians, amoreans, the assyrians, chaldeans, etc., and historically they were at loggerheads with the Hellenes and from the late third century to the islamic occupation constantly in a state of unrest. In a world without Islam, assuming the Byzantines do still beat the Persians in 628, I see the exansion of non-chalcedonean (read semitic) Christianity into persia and arabia and eventually these non-chalcedonean christians waging war on the byzantine empire to liberate their coreligionists (and co racialists) from hellenic power. Because this would take longer than the rise of Islam and the differences much more subtle, I think the greeks can hold palestine, lebanon and the syrian coast, where Chalcedonean (read hellenic) christians are more populous. The funny thing would be the independent Copts and Syriacs would probably claim they are the true Roman state because the byzantine emperor is a heretic. The creation of this semitic Roman state would give Christianized Persia a buffer and they would probably focus on expanding east into the asian steppe and india, like Islam in our time line. As a conclusion and to answer>>8496841 the world would be more greek, more christian but probably not more peaceful. If secular difference between christians have not faded in the face of a common enemy, I dount they would without such pressure.

Middle Warm Period 950–1250
It makes more sense if cold periods cause lower crop yields, the collapse of imperial systems based on steady yields, with a subsequent increase in attacks from hungry barbarians. There is a paper to support this.
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The Mongols also started up in the 1200s, near the tail end of the warming period. Plagues are mentioned in accounts of their invasions. Makes sense if lower food available was causing weakened immune systems.
Despite everyone sucking their cocks all the time, Mongol conquests are probably a direct result of the fact they had cannons, firearms, and explosives that Europeans had never seen.

No Arab Muslim conquest means less brown. Catholic and even Orthodox churches cracked down on cousin marriage so they would be less inbred as well.


Yeah man, the Talmud is fucking garbage. A legal code made up by the trash that escaped the Roman sword. Nothing but the teachings of thieves and pedophiles that defied God.


Based on UK crime rates, Muslims manage to be worse than niggers. I think that based on countries of origin, their IQ should be higher so this is impressive.

yes. but better isn't best. dont settle for Semitic garbage just because you dont know of an alternative.

a jew is a jew is a jew.

Yes. I'm a fedora and even I think it would be. (((Christianity))) has its flaws, but its objectively better than (((islam)))

yes

No, you fucking retards. I mean it's cherrypicked even for pictures of Berbers. Most berbers are just another variety of North African shitskin who lived there prior to arab invasion.