Nothing convinces me to go back to Google's sweet soul-killing embrace like the...

Jonathan Campbell
Jonathan Campbell

Nothing convinces me to go back to Google's sweet soul-killing embrace like the fact that all my independent privately-provided services can one day just fuck off into space or stop working properly and nobody will even try to fix them.

For a few days now, if any of you had a chance to notice, @waifu.club emails hosted by cock.li are unable to receive any external mail. Not from gmail, not from hotmail, not from mail.com, not from twitter, not from anywhere, at the moment they are able to receive mail exclusively from other cock.li users.
Both Vincent and Lance Brignoni (owner of waifu.club) are not responsive.

Other urls found in this thread:

chiru.no/a/mail/
arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/10/how-much-do-google-and-facebook-profit-from-your-data/
scaron.info/blog/debian-mail-postfix-dovecot.html
scaron.info/blog/debian-mail-spf-dkim.html
arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/12/cock-li-e-mail-server-seized-by-german-authorities-admin-announces/
cock.li/transparency/warrant-canary.txt

Brayden Mitchell
Brayden Mitchell

Isn't cock.li compromised? Why would you use it over protonmail?

Carson Edwards
Carson Edwards

Then go and stop whining, you will be in good company. VC even warned you about using domains not under his control.

Aaron Cook
Aaron Cook

Try sdf.org, they've been around forever doing the Unix shell account and related services gig. They're pretty cheap too. You can even run a gopher site on there.

Jackson Gutierrez
Jackson Gutierrez

using cock.li in the first place

Jack Lopez
Jack Lopez

actually believing that in the first place

Juan Hernandez
Juan Hernandez

Nothing convinces me to go back to Google's sweet soul-killing embrace like the fact that all my independent privately-provided services can one day just fuck off into space
Google kills off its own services all the time. I was in the middle of seeing how Wave could be used where I work when Google announced they were killing it. Plenty of people got burned by Reader going away. Et cetera.

I'm sure Gmail is going to have some longevity, of course. If nothing else, the NSA would never let them shut it down as long as it's such a treasure trove.

But being part of the Google botnet is no guarantee that a service will last any more than the other services you use.

Why would you use it over protonmail
Protonmail is security snake oil.
B-but muh encryption!
They store your private key on their servers. All they have to do is change a couple of lines of Javascript, and they'll have it.
B-but muh Swiss privacy laws!
Switzerland has MLATs with the US and plenty of other countries. Nobody at Protonmail HQ is going to go to prison if they get a court order to turn over information about you or otherwise cooperate with law enforcement. They'll cooperate. And FVEY and friends operate there at will.
B-but they provide an .onion service!
Unless they've recently changed their policy, you can't sign up via the hidden service. You have to sign up via their regular website. And you have to run a ton of Javascript to use Protonmail, whether over the regular website or over the hidden service.

Leo Myers
Leo Myers

Someone's trying to kill it off, of course. Why can't they talk about it?

Lincoln Wilson
Lincoln Wilson

It's compromised, the owners co-op with gov
t. knower

Jace Bennett
Jace Bennett

the owners

Benjamin Diaz
Benjamin Diaz

waifu.club
Works on my machine

Nathan Rivera
Nathan Rivera

Plural because the FBI, CIA and the NSA are separate entities.

Jaxon Gomez
Jaxon Gomez

chiru.no/a/mail/

Asher Thompson
Asher Thompson

You can escape JavaScript leaking your IP by using whonix

Austin Sullivan
Austin Sullivan

It is always worth spending money on your own domain so you're not tied to any one service.
Don't choose a meme one, they often have different terms of service that allows the registrar to arbitrarily fuck you.
Google makes up to $700/year off your data, your data is valuable, freedom costs money.
arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/10/how-much-do-google-and-facebook-profit-from-your-data/

If you don't want to go down that path then go directly for cock.li email, all the other domains are just those who've agreed to forward their mx records and little else.
VC will not handhold you but if you know what you're doing with his service it will be fine, he is the only one that tells you the truth, anything other than client side encryption is fake security.

Michael Taylor
Michael Taylor

sans domicile fixe
hon hon

Cooper Ramirez
Cooper Ramirez

Email is inherently insecure.

Thomas Martin
Thomas Martin

did you test other cock domains?

Ayden Davis
Ayden Davis

Works for me™ on airmail.cc

Chase Ward
Chase Ward

I have an old cock.li adress and can't send any mail, but receive it perfectly fine

Jacob Jones
Jacob Jones

Last night it was a little delayed for my tfwno.gf one,but everything eventually went through.

Brody Green
Brody Green

Stop being clinically retarded please.

Austin Wood
Austin Wood

I've been wondering, who's the owner of this?

Jaxon Martin
Jaxon Martin

CIA

Xavier Williams
Xavier Williams

just fuck off into space or stop working
This will happen to you on Google as well if you go full dailystormer and upset those SJWs.

Eli Lee
Eli Lee

That pic
I wonder if you're one of us.

James Myers
James Myers

There are couple of reasons why OP is purposefully spreading misinformation

number 1, the most possible
He wants to stir shit just to garner out attention on cock.li because he is one of those Team Gamergoy peeps and thinks he is really funny and smart

number 2
He wants to discredit cock.li

number 3
He doesn't know how to set up his email client

Levi Edwards
Levi Edwards

He doesn't know how to set up his email client
Who does, really?

Lincoln Butler
Lincoln Butler

they're all really shitty, aren't they

Samuel Richardson
Samuel Richardson

Absolutely this. You gotta be a real newfag, a total pleb, or some shill to pretend that big, corporate-fueled services are reliable.
Even if they were, they'd be cancer and anyone who isn't a bitch gaping their asshole and asking for gangbang would go the extra-mile of having backup for their info and alternative solutions at hand so they could seamlessly use respectful alternatives.
But they're not reliable in any way, they do what they want, purely out of their interest and will leave you hanging with only a fuck you loser as reason for it.
While true that Gmail is highly unlikely to die off, you can very safely bet that it will drastically change in the next 5 year or so into something that will abuse you way more explicitly and control your usage in much more restrictive ways, counting with the fact that normalfags rely so very much on it and will tolerate almost anything before changing their habits. Same can be said for face book and similar monopolies.
We're still in a transitional period between when those services needed to cater and please their users to grow and stay big, and the near future where they will fully actualize the weight of their power over social and structural realities and finally sit on the absolutist thrones they've built for themselves.
It's not going to be only moderately worse than what we have today. You can't be under that much illusion, OP.

Cooper Moore
Cooper Moore

ITT CIAniggers trying to scrub off birbman mail.

Charles Martin
Charles Martin

Just use Protonmail. It's safer, better designed and your emails won't be filtered as spam.

Isaac Long
Isaac Long

It's safer
[citation needed]

Henry Sanders
Henry Sanders

is there any update on cockboi? did he get shoah'd?

Aiden Sanchez
Aiden Sanchez

is this thread just for shilling big email companies? only complete turbocucks use this as an excuse to use some garbage like gmail,yahoo,hotmail,yandex,etc
protonmeme requires phone/donation/good IP address to sign up. if you have good IP address it may "only" require another email address to sign up. and it's hosted by a bunch of faggots who concider themselves "civilized" and thus will eventually start censoring people because "you can't just say stuff on the internet". as far as I'm concerned, protonmeme is no different than crap like Google.
Isn't cock.li compromised?
why the fuck are you using email if you care whether your messages are compromised?

Jeremiah Nelson
Jeremiah Nelson

any update on cockboi?

He probably got terryed

Aaron Morales
Aaron Morales

works for me
posting from VPN at cockbox

Jacob Carter
Jacob Carter

good IP address
i take it that means a static ipv4 that's not hosting a tor node?
in other words, they want to be able to identify/track you easily

Liam Price
Liam Price

More like some lazy fagot's configuration using a tor black list to stop ebil haxx0rs from pinging them all day.

Landon Butler
Landon Butler

Using the cock after the germanbro got raided by police swat, and his shit stolen then "returned" and he comes back online.

Sebastian Martin
Sebastian Martin

what do you use instead genius? i use cock because it doesn't force me to do a bunch of "security" bullshit like recovery, 2FA, SMS, etc. if you're unironically using email you should have killed yourself in the first place. you sound like one of those stupid polniggers who pays for email because muh capitalism

Caleb Wright
Caleb Wright

Run your own email server and stop being a bitch then

Ethan Green
Ethan Green

exactly, it's easy to do this with UNIX

Gavin Jenkins
Gavin Jenkins

Poast tutorial or lying

Juan Nelson
Juan Nelson

change your encryption settings

Oliver Phillips
Oliver Phillips

scaron.info/blog/debian-mail-postfix-dovecot.html
scaron.info/blog/debian-mail-spf-dkim.html

lrn2startpage

I used these tutorials to set up mail servers on Debian and CentOS. They passed Google's spam filters.

Ian Rivera
Ian Rivera

install openbsd on server
set up DNS records
set up reverse DNS
edit smtpd.conf
<listen on all
<table aliases file:/etc/mail/aliases
<accept from any for domain "example.com" alias <aliases> deliver to mbox
<accept for local alias <aliases> deliver to mbox
<accept from local for any relay
/etc/init.d/smtpd restart
wait a few hours for DNS records to propagate to the rest of the internet
Congratulations. You should have a working SMTP server. You can now read and send mail right from your ssh connection using mail, mutt, alpine, etc. I've been using this setup for at least three years. No frills, but it gets the job done.

If you want luxuries like TLS, spam filtering, IMAP or POP you will need to do some additional configuration.
use acme-client from the base system to get a TLS certificate
use spamd from the base system for spam filtering
install and configure dovecot for IMAP and POP

Chase King
Chase King

Does that setup do SPF and DKIM by default? If not, I doubt any major email provider doesn't mark your emails as spam.

Easton Gonzalez
Easton Gonzalez

me

Sebastian Mitchell
Sebastian Mitchell

No, but it does now. SPF was just a matter of adding a DNS TXT record. DKIM required adding a TXT record, installing the dkimproxy package, generating a certificate with openssl and copy-pasting three lines from the smtpd.conf man page. It took 15 minutes in total to set it all up.
My 15-20 outgoing emails per year always reach their recipients. It's a small sample size, but it works for me.

Brandon Hughes
Brandon Hughes

who concider themselves "civilized" and thus will eventually start censoring people because "you can't just say stuff on the internet"
Who would you use for hosted email with custom domains then?

Caleb Diaz
Caleb Diaz

Vincent
Why do you fags trust this retard?
"That means that SSL keys and private keys and full mail content of all 64,500 of my users, as well as hashed passwords, registration time, and the last seven days of logs were all confiscated and now are in the hands of German authorities," Vincent Canfield said.
arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/12/cock-li-e-mail-server-seized-by-german-authorities-admin-announces/
lol oops i put everything on hardware i have no physical control over and now the kikes know everything, sry lmao also dicks

Henry Phillips
Henry Phillips

mail contents
Those can't be considered secure unless the user encrypts it himself on his own computer (that's not running something totally botnet like Windows 10). Granted, most people don't know about or how to use PGP, so they fall for this magic web 2.0 interface shit...

Mason Gomez
Mason Gomez

He's in Romania now, no longer in one of the 14 eyes.

Wyatt Torres
Wyatt Torres

We trust Vincent because those who actually read his site knew that those were the risks of using his website?
Vincent is good because he allows PGP specifically tells you that anything other than client side encryption is placebo and only complies with the bare minimum required, which is why he got raided.

Hudson Sanchez
Hudson Sanchez

you're a fucking retard

Jayden Edwards
Jayden Edwards

Looks like VC finally remembered to update the warrant canary. Looks like everything is all good.
cock.li/transparency/warrant-canary.txt