What was the most successful left-wing society?

What was the most successful left-wing society?

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It`s a spook m8.

Soviet Union circa 1923-7.

so it only lasted 4 years?

hunter-gatherers

hey ted

sweden because it's a mix of the good parts of capitalism and socialism

Define "successful".

Revolutionary Catalonia and the Free Territory circa 1919 seem pretty based. Seychelles

1950s Yugoslavia and basically Yugoslavia in general before the 70s and before Bush decides to fuck up the country also seem pretty cool but I'm pretty big against planned economies so ehh

Overall most successful? the Soviet Union was the strongest but at times forgot what the hell it was doing

unitedchans.org/socialism-has-never-worked/

Prosperous, safe, efficient.

Kekalonia.

the entire ideological argument that kept communists in power for a while in eastern europe (after open elections were established) was that socialism was guaranteed safety and stability

Doesn't sound like most capitalist nations

To be fair the USSR did pretty well for a nation that was basically an undeveloped economy before the Revolution and had to deal with everything the Nazis did to it and its people when they invaded.

Mondragon

No.

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Well played.

U wot. But yeah, it was probably the most successful socialist society that lasted more than a few years. Praise Tito!

Is there a source describing Yugoslavia and its system? I get that it's a market economy but I'm not sure how it worked in specifics.

It was essentially a free market where all enterprise was collective, worker's owned the co-operatives and appointed administrators who were subject to an elected workers council. This was supplemented by strong social spending on education, healthcare, housing, infrastructure, etc.

Let's define what that means.

Is this more by ideology or policy?

I pretty much view things through stirner/ Ayn Rand and Nietzche goggles, as contradictory as it sounds.

sweden is literally turning into a third world country by the next few decades.

Peoples Republic of China.

Not socialist. Please end this meme.

I hear that millions of people died as a result of mao's government.

probably about the same amount killed by yo mama's stanky ass

no Im sure your mistaking for your mother.

sweden is the rape capital of europe

That's because they changed their definition of rape just then, dumbass.

how the fuck do you change a word that means forceful and unconsenting sex?

With feminism of course

what does femanism have to do with rape?

what a meme, it worked well early on, but later the market crippled it and its offspring
the problem is that the workers didn't know how to actually manage the marketplace, rather than investing in the businesses they invested in themselves - they usually went on holidays and such while their means of production were getting outdated
Tito was an idiot as well, he had good intentions but effectively ruined the country further - he built more work spaces to reduce unemployment rather than improving the current ones, thus resulting in more people working than in other countries and so in bigger prices of the products
also, muh petite-bourgeoise

Tito had good ideas but couldn't accomplish them, if the progress of early Yugoslavia was still in work for 5 more years, the later split would have been more painless, but it simply couldn't happen

you're either an uneducated westerner or retarded Yugonostalgic tbh

in sweden each rape counts as its offence rather than in places like the US where if you rape someone like 20 times it only is one charge of rape rather than in sweden where it would be 20
You can see more about the issues with comparing crime rates across countries in more depth here bbc.com/news/magazine-19592372

kulaks fukd it up

Which was more successful - that one fascist regime that lasted less than thirty years, or the other fascist regime that lasted less that thirty years?

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Overall? Catalonia.
It would have easily survived were it not for the war.
They had their faults too, namely, they didn't remove private property and had the petit-bourgeoise

USSR was also left-wing but it didn't accomplish much regarding socialism, only state capitalism.
But it does go with the standards of


Also, lemme just argue against the popular "successful socialist states"

Seychelles is and was a social democracy, yet Holla Forums loves it, but bashes on Sweden

argument against Yugoslavia

Pic related, more shit
but the argument against Kim, Heng and Sankara are kinda dumb, they dindu nuffin wrong as far as I know, just in bad positions

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Nice screencap lmao

I'm not using it because 'le USSR wuz bade', but to show the problems of those states
as I said "the argument against Kim, Heng and Sankara are kinda dumb, they dindu nuffin wrong as far as I know, just in bad positions", forgot to add Makhno, and I'm not arguing against the failed states such as Rosa's, just the ones that came into existence as this is about actually functioning societies(and most of the states that were argued against in the image did not succeed in actually taking power)

I rechecked the image and realised it was pretty dumb in the end and that only a couple of leaders are capable of being criticised as most of them didn't take power, but it does have SOME legitimate points

it's not mine, someone made it before, just downloaded it

There are mistakes in both of these posts and neither were really worth re-posting (the former claims there was no state apparatus in Makhnovist Ukraine even though it had a secret police) but unquestionably the first one wins out.


Anyone with half a brain can see how pathetic these replies are, a few of them amount to little more than insults.

Yugoslavia

Market socialism with Chinese characteristics is the only format of market socialism that is not revisionist, you class traitor.

Revolutionary terror was necessary to change the society and end 4,000 years of tradition that had plagued Chinese people.

IT WAS REAGAN!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

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So that's what you call selling half your country to foreign investors?

Meanwhile in Yugoslavia, where workers actually owned the means of production…

You can't possibly be serious. It's full-on free market capitalism and by far the most corrupt country in all of Europe.

I meant social market capitalism

Soviet Union

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50% of the economy is politicians using tax money to buy worthless services from their own private companies

Dude… Look at the guy's flag.

t. Average Black Lives Matter black supremacy communists.

*facepalm*

So the USSR's failure was that it survived the war?

…what?

What does that mean?

How many Yuan did you get for making that post, Cheng Lee?