Intel Hit Wil Massive Lawsuit

Nicholas Howard
Nicholas Howard

archive.fo/AHwaq

Burn, bitches.

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Julian Nguyen
Julian Nguyen

Can I RMA a skylake CPU using this as justification?

Henry Foster
Henry Foster

Can I return my original 8086 using this as justification?

Andrew Williams
Andrew Williams

Yes.

Juan Young
Juan Young

Intel's in serious trouble if they don't do anything about it.
People don't seem to be buying their PR bullshit that downplays/red herrings the problem, and if they try to fix it in hardware, they'll lose their lead in server sales against AMD since their performance will drop without speculative execution.

Robert Evans
Robert Evans

Wait. Can you really sue any company which produces something with a security vulnerability?

Anthony Taylor
Anthony Taylor

For the most part, no. The (((lawyers))) involved may have some sort of byzantine way of justifying it due to the fix resulting in unavoidable performance loss.

Thomas Foster
Thomas Foster

Wouldn't they need to disclose their security vulnerability in advertisements if they opt to acknowledge the issue but still do nothing about it due to performance loss?
I though that was the whole point of denying there was an issue.

William Barnes
William Barnes

make phone
claim battery lasts 40 hours longer than competition
battery explodes and kills people instead
<oy vey! security embargo!
keep selling phone for another year
i don't see how these "security embargo's" are a blanket excuse for false advertising.

John Stewart
John Stewart

Depends on if they knew it had one and decided to go ahead anyway because it gave them an edge over the competition. Good luck proving that though, I'm sure they're already holding a bonfire at Intel HQ.
Alternatively, you can sue them for false advertising since they very likely knew about it before disclosing it, which led to sales based on performance data they knew to be fraudulent.
You can fairly likely pin something like that on them, especially considering that their CEO also likes himself some insider trading.

Luke Jones
Luke Jones

Post full links and not shortened please
archive.fo/2018.01.06-081406/https://www.extremetech.com/computing/261574-class-action-lawsuits-intel-ceo-meltdown-flaw

Mason Gomez
Mason Gomez

it's not a shortened link if it doesn't redirect to something else, which this doesn't. i don't know what your tripping on.
archive.fo/AHwaq
is the correct link

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do you see a 301 or 302 here?

Brandon Walker
Brandon Walker

No normalfag can do this so just post the "long link" so that people can see on what website the "short link" links too.

David Baker
David Baker

Welcome new user. Do you mean you would prefer to see the title in the link? I believe you have inadvertently used technical terminology which you don't understand. We are very tolerant of new users here but just try to be more clear in what you hope to achieve. After lurking on boards terminology such as this will become apparent to you.
With regard to your assumed request, why would you prefer to see the whole link? Is that something you have become used to on another website or forum such as reddit?

Adrian Edwards
Adrian Edwards

With a security vulnerability that would severely hamper the performance of your device if patched, definitely. At least if your country has decent consumer protection laws.

Jace Roberts
Jace Roberts

Wait. Can you really sue any company which produces something with a security vulnerability?
No. There is no such thing as a 100% bug free computer.

But you could make a case if they KNEW about the problem and then continued to sell defective hardware. If they knew about the problem a year ago and didn't say or do shit to correct it then they should pay.

James Young
James Young

But you could make a case if they KNEW about the problem and then continued to sell defective hardware. If they knew about the problem a year ago and didn't say or do shit to correct it then they should pay.
But it's ok when glorified sandniggers do it. Remeber 5.9763726 gorillions.

Elijah Cook
Elijah Cook

not only that they continued to produce the defective hardware and sell it. I haven't heard anything about their chips being fixed yet in hardware, or anything about them shutting down production after they got this news.

Ethan Young
Ethan Young

What's that meme about?

Gavin Hill
Gavin Hill

Pentium FDIV bug

Thomas Collins
Thomas Collins

No normalfag can do this
No normalfag is welcome on this board, so it works out.

Carson James
Carson James

But it's ok when glorified sandniggers do it. Remeber 5.9763726 gorillions.

Intel recalled those CPU's.
Cost them almost half a $billion doing it.

David Allen
David Allen

Meanwhile, mods on the MSI forum don't think the vulnerability is a big deal.

forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=297707.0

Joshua Gutierrez
Joshua Gutierrez

reading that forum gave me cancer

Hunter Lewis
Hunter Lewis

And don't spread unnecessarily any panic. As far as I can read, the vulnerability was there since 1995, and so far I am fine with all my Intel based systems...
Oh wow

Sebastian Edwards
Sebastian Edwards

F00F C7C8

Noah White
Noah White

look at this damage control using other companies damage control statements to reinforce your own damage control statement.

Google: oy vey (((most))) of our customers won't see performance decreases on our cloud!
<pls dont' leave our cloud and it's not getting cheaper
Microsoft: oy vey (((most))) of our customers won't see performance decreases on our cloud!
<pls dont' leave our cloud and it's not getting cheaper
Amazon: oy vey (((most))) of our customers won't see performance decreases on our cloud!
<pls dont' leave our cloud and it's not getting cheaper
Apple: oy vey keep buying our scam products (((most))) of your performance won't be lost as long as shown by our goyim approved kosher benchmarks
newsroom.intel.com/news-releases/industry-testing-shows-recently-released-security-updates-not-impacting-performance-real-world-deployments/

Brandon Lewis
Brandon Lewis

also how would they even know if "most" workloads aren't affected by their customers if they aren't spying on their customers to analyze which processes are being run to do what.

Ayden Kelly
Ayden Kelly

Not to sound like I'm defending Intel at this point because they can go bankrupt tomorrow for all I care, but for the sake of playing Devils Advocate, one country argue Google and Amazon likely left ample enough performance headroom for shit like this (cannot exactly say the same abound Unreal or Ubisoft though), it is likely not enough performance loss to warrant Rollins out an entirely new hardware cycle (which would cost far more in the long run than trying to mitigate performance loss over time through subsequent updates). Epyc rollout soon but it isn't happening overnight
Seriously trying to feed your paranoia through standard PRspeak by a company desperate for damage control
This shit is actually cringey please don't do this

Brody Miller
Brody Miller

Unreals servers see a 100% CPU usage increase
everyone else experiences "negligible" perf drop
Dohohohoho, I don't believe you Intel.

Nolan Thompson
Nolan Thompson

You have absolutely zero idea about the nature of PTI . Of course this would impact servers the most, and no fucking shit programs that don't need to write to kernel space aren't going to be effected

Carson Martinez
Carson Martinez

AWS, Azure and GCE are primarily server workloads.

Anthony Taylor
Anthony Taylor

tbh when you said "everyone else" I assumed you meant non-server workloads
I do actually wonder how Amazon and Jewgle are handling it. My guess is that Google and Amazon, being the largest server providers on Earth, likely had over-provisioned server space laying around to anticipate further growth, but now they have to use it to correct for Intels fuckup. Unreal was much smaller so its unlikely they had the same kind of overprovisioning in place

Xavier Morris
Xavier Morris

Yeah I'm pretty sure Intel had payed them off behind closed doors. They're taking a hit and if you have $10 billion park, 10% hit is already $1 billion loss.

Jason Ortiz
Jason Ortiz

they aren't correcting for anyone's fuckup, this get's passed straight down to the idiots who buy servers with amazon and google. they'll correct for their own shit but everyone else buying vps's with their cloud is going to take the performance hit.

You think they're really going to allocate 30% more cpu resources and offer it for the same price they did before to their customers? of course not.

Landon Adams
Landon Adams

They'll probably argue that Intel knowingly sold faulty merchandise and thus misrepresented their products.

Austin Myers
Austin Myers

It's an archive not just a URL shortener though.

Jackson Williams
Jackson Williams

He is the one retard defending Intel in all these threads.

Dylan Sanchez
Dylan Sanchez

I was lookig for this thread.
What next? Google introducing his own CPU?

Gavin Howard
Gavin Howard

intel will pay off the big players to shut up about it, google, amazon, microsoft, etc and offer them discounts on new cpu's or something along with an NDA.

For all the other goyim they'll throw their marketing dept into overdrive claiming (((workload dependent))), "it's not that bad", etc, and eventually it will be memory holed and the goyim will never remember that they took a 30% performance hit, it will just be the new normal. Anyone who doesn't buy it will have to replace their CPU out of pocket and eat the cost.

Sebastian Gomez
Sebastian Gomez

(You)

assuming they haven't already cut deals with amazon, google, etc, which is why their marketing departments are shilling intel's talking points now too, while the real results are memory holed.

(ubisoft's always online game's servers went down when they ate a 100% increase in server load after the patch).
hollaforums.com/thread/14109085/video-games

Kayden Rivera
Kayden Rivera

epicgames.com/fortnite/forums/news/announcements/132642-epic-services-stability-update

Justin King
Justin King

They also sold off stock before making the exploit publicly known, which is illegal. archive.fo/rwC7y