Do you want some luxury in life? Do you work towards it at all?

Do you want some luxury in life? Do you work towards it at all?

And if you do, do you think it contradicts your personal philosophy?

I justify all luxuries I get, by using them to promote revolutionary ideas and so on. I got a new PC so I can create better videos, art and so on. and I use it to play vidya cause I'm never in the mood.
I buy books and manga so that I can be entertained in a better way than watching hollywood explosion-fest movies.

Though, I don't know how much my prol luxuries are "luxuries" in reality.

Of course, to consume and merely pay lip service to socialism is counter productive, but enjoying life is not an evil. Basically, don't be a bourg, unless you plan on being a communist sleeper agent, funding revolutions and work to destabilize the economy before the overthrow. whoops, I'm fantasizing.

This sounds like a bait thread where OP is conflates decadence as being contradictory to the socialist goal of being rewarded the full value of one's labour (rather than someone else stealing it as profit). ie OP is a troll who assumes socialism is poor people taking working people's money and that socialists are hypocrites for buying iphones for themselves instead of buying iphones for homeless people.

Anyway assuming good faith in OP, I do desire and strive to obtain luxury, things that are beyond what I need but I am no commodity fetishist and I don't value things that only exist to be consumed (like an incrementally better cellphone or the latest fashion trends).

why buy what you can get for free?

It's not as easy to read on a pc.

Can't you read on your cellphone?

It's not big enough and I'd rather have a book than a tablet.

man, I haven't touched a book in forever.
and a pen

Manga is truly decadent a waste of paper given that there are toilet paper shortages in Venezuela.

I live very simply, but that possibly makes me more hypocritical than a socialist that desires luxury, right?

The only thing I'm working at the moment is to live fast and die hard.

I'm an egoist, what do you think?

Yes there is certainly contradiction. To be true to Leftism is to live as the ascetic monk. Pursuit of "luxury" is vulgar and creates desire – where the was none – for commercialism. Thus the contradiction results in opposition to the goals of Leftism.

That mode of thinking is not conducive for a revolutionary and Marx and Engels would not have agreed

I don't, I just work to sustain myself, buy shit that amuses me and alcohol. Nothing too fancy nor would I want that.

I do work towards the luxury of Communism though.

This tbh. Join a monastery. They're the only real succesful communes.

Currently, anything above the poverty line is a "luxury".

I live in a modest home and invest in good tools, which mostly means I upgrade my PC and buy art supplies every now and then because I do design and video work. Other than that, my surplus money goes towards travel and charity.

If you're not a bourg, you cannot become one. If you are one, how stupid do you have to be to give that up?

That's not true at all, the goal of leftism is to eliminate hierarchies, go be a weirdo christian if you want to be, but don't call it Leftism.

I seek full luxury space communism bitch.

Either you work part time and make shit wages and your life is a constant struggle, or you're working 40+ hours a week. If your wage goes from $15 to $30 an hour, you can't tell your boss "OK, I'll work half as much now". Lawyers can't be like "I make $500 an hour, let me just do one hour a week", because they could never sustain that.

My dream is to make music and films and I'd like to have a partner into kinky sex and conversation about literature or art who maybe I have kids with. Give me this and I'd be happy. I don't want a big house or a nice car, I'm more comfortable eating street food than snobby upper class shit, and with exception to fashion (to some extent) I care about utility more than I do about appearance.


I work towards this by working hard on music and writing scripts. Admittedly the opportunity to make the films I'd like hasn't come across yet, but I'm currently in a band I think could be really great. I haven't had much luck finding someone because it's hard for me to trust people and most of the girls I meet want to fuck me instead of date me, but I'm not giving up.


Not at all. My personal philosophy has always been to give it my all and then some to things I feel passionate about. When I work on art I push myself towards exhaustion and constantly try to do better and push harder, when I hate I hate until it hurts, when I love I give them everything I can.

If you're asking if this aligns with socialism I think it does. Under capitalism I'm forced to work 40+ hours a week at a job I hate, my ability to create art is going to be heavily influenced on how well it sells, and it's increasingly hard to be in a relationship because of how fucking busy work schedules make us. Under socialism I could work half the time I do now and have not only a better material situation but more time to work on art and chase love. I'm in leftism because it's good for me, not out of any feefees or sense of justice.

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I think that due to my lifestyle I am not striving for luxuries. I barely spend the money I make on anything else than (fast)food, I never buy souvenirs, I never buy new clothes unless I really need them. I rarely buy anything really.

I don't see the point in a big house, I dont see the point in a big car, I dont see the point in expensive watches or clothes. If I am poor, I can't afford them, and if I am rich, why do I need to show off?

I dont have a desire to be rich, I don't know what I could spend lots of money on. I would rather use money to realize my goal, such as being able to live a nomadic lifestyle or create products and do projects that I feel improve the world and give me a feeling that I am leaving a personal mark on the world, in a personal way, what I think really is the only "purpose" is I could give life.

Bump for interesting thread.

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You can too become a bourg if you weren't one to start with. It's just very unlikely.

Fuck off. Asceticism is necessary to Troo Leftism™ the way that rainbow hair and snowflake pronouns are necessary.