If Christianity is so cucked nowadays, why not start a non-cucked branch? One that focus on unity...

It's called Stoicism. And it doesn't promise a magical fairytale world after death where everything is perfect. That's why you can't sell it to the kind of scum who worship a dead Jew as Creator.

Has been tried a few times, it always end up being corrupted.

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Let me know how an eternity in hell feels.

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I'll worship the frog first.

the bell curve guarantees that most of the population will do

isn't that just as cucked?

I'd be interested in that just to know more about it, but could you convince the masses with them?

The whole point is to make a 'cult' that 'uncucks' masses.

I actually should just said 'any religion' rather than Christianity, but that's the one white people relate the most

You just gave me an idea.
What if we made Islam cucked? Like what if we just started preaching cucky things in the name of Islam?

I understand what you are trying to say but Christianity is one of the things that made Europe great especially in art and monuments.

OP is trying to address the modern cucked religion. How many whites in the world are there, that are Christian? Converting people too 14/88 and telling them to abandon their Religion is going to be extremely hard, if not impossible and will only further undermine the process of white unity pushing people away. Many sects of Christianity are extremely racist and community aware but that is in the minority I will admit.

How do you propose we tackle this problem?

Unfortunately for all you smart atheists who are so quick to call Christians your inferiors, the dummies have power in mass over you. Ignoring something won't make it go away and ridiculing it will only offer more resistance since the religion actually sees "going against the world" and "be a martyr" as a good thing.

The fact of the matter is Christianity is the dominating religion in the West. Address the fucking problem with a modicum of debate ffs.

Stop being a nigger, if your smart you don't have to break down other peoples intelligence

Excuse my English it's not my first language

Even the Bible had proper paragraphs for fuck's sake, which apparently you can't write for shit.

Because Christians destroyed all that wasn't Christian for heresy, except for Rome. That might be the only exception of all Europe that didn't get wrecked once Christianity set foot somewhere.

Why are people so jealous of Christendom?

moravian.org/

Better to just let it die off. Young people give up christfaggotry because it is gay. The religion will die off with white people pretty quickly.

We were all raised Christian, user. It failed us and Western Civilization has been race-mixing and doing fucked up things like creating Spics and Islam for almost 1500yrs now.

And the kike never came back to fix it.

Lets bring back the worship of Apollo, of D'Zeus, of Aphrodite and Athene.

because the core of christianity is cucked, its existence is meant to placate the masses

That could be said of all religions. Save for the Grecco-Roman one. Come home white man, stop worshiping these false idols and false gods.

Fuck off.

You guys don't get it

JUST IMAGINE THE FUCKING SALT IF WE APPOINTED OUR OWN FUCKING NON CUCKED POPE

He don't fucking have the copyright on Christianity.

But I guess it's too outside of the area of expertise of Holla Forums

It's cucked to its foundation; born a sinner.

A Judeo-Christian church that supported desegregation and marched with Martin Luther Koon

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_Saint_Pius_X

Nice try faggot. There is no non-cucked Christian Church? Why? Because it is an inherently effeminate semitic religion for subhumans.

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Dubs confirm WASP master-race

Voting for Trump doesn't mean shit. Christcucks would have voted even more for spic Rubio or Jeb! if given the chance.

the jew lies, it lied about Christianity and you believed them. Good goy!

Well, why don't you?
I at least don't care because I am a National Socialist, and we put race before everything else. It really doesn't matter what religion a member of my race is, as long as they put improvement of the race above that religion.

jews lied about Christianity by claiming jesus was a jew, they lied. Plus if jesus WAS a jew, then why do they speak so badly about him in the talmud??? JEWS LIE HOW HASN'T /POL FIGURED THIS OUT YET??/

This, stoicism is 10/10

You obviously have no knowledge on the subject, I recommend to you reading the book How The Catholic Church Built The Western Civilization by James Wood.

For all the virtues of Holla Forums, the raicla revisionism and arising "kek" occultism is so prevalent, you should simply take threads like this to /christian/ or create a Holla Forums-/christian/ hybrid board. Holla Forumsacks will engage in blatant revisionism to discredit and slander Christianity, whether they misquote scripture, or flat out deny the overt influence of Christianity on Western Civilization. I'm afraid at least half of this board is sexually immoral and will never procreate.

First, we won't be worshipers of an executed Jew, we will worship the Roman and Greek pantheon as Caesar and Alexander did. I'm not entirely sure how the priesthoods would function, but if there is to be one we must work on restoring the Colleges of the priesthoods. We must absorb the lesser faiths, the Asatruar and Odinists and Neo-Druidists and so forth in our favour, taking their followers but not their LARP practices. Holy scripture, there will be much to work with, Homer, Hesiod, Plato, Ovid, and so on and so forth.

typo: "racial revisionism"

pppFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF HAHAHAHAHAHA

The Russian Orthodox Church has declared Putin's efforts in the middle east a holy war, and ritually blesses bombs, ammunition, et al with holy water and whatnot.

The Greek Orthodox Church has declared it divine will that Putin will conquer/rechristianize Turkey and take back Constantinople.

How to fix Christianity:

The above will take mostly semitic Christianity and turn it half-aryan.

Of course you could also abandon it altogether and take the spiritual redpill at piereligion.org

DAILY REMINDER: CHRISTIANS WORSHIP THE GOD OF INFAMOUS SEMITE, ABRAHAM.

lol I'm sure people believe you

Daily reminder that reported for intl

Wew

Fuck entirely off, I will never cuck to your good goy religion.

Okay, reported for intl.

This.

Jewish solution to a jewish problem? Makes no sense.

Persian filth. Strike it all out and bring the Theogony and Metamorphoses.

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M-mods! Somebody criticized my Judeo-Bolshevism again!

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>>>/christpol/

Typical Jewish methods, rewriting history to fit your Jewish religion.

I'm tired of you fucking cultists plugging your ears every single time it's exposed that the sand religion slowed down progress in Europe and actively destroyed ancient European cultures once it took over. Of course a Christian is gonna praise his desert religion who's original goal was to stop kikes from being kikes in their own kikeland. Jesus was from a time before Jews decided to spread all over the world, he was never meant to preach to Europeans. Asking a Muslim how Islam made civilizations great would be the same. Speaking of Islam, it's basically Semitic religion in Europe pt. 2: Caliphate Feudalism. Only a blind idiot can't see the parallels between how Christendom, opposition of kikes, conquered Europe and what Mudslimes, neo opposition of kikes now that Christendom got usurped, are trying to do currently. Both times, the ones who suffer the most through it are native Europeans who are not stinking rich.

Early Christians were all kikes, user. Who was Saul?

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It's rotten to the very core of its existence, and fuck off back to /christian/ with your off topic religion thread.

Sandfolk and their followers burned down the library of Alexandria, destroyed the sacred groves, burned two year old girls for being "witches" and erased all traces to our religions.

The second wave, Islam, is now decimating the last traces to pre-judaic civilization.

It is no coincidence that there are TWO fighting each other, with the originator sitting untouchable by the wayside, benefiting from it.

Cuck version for Europe, and the violent one for the invading nations. Jews benefit from the destabilization: depopulation of the M.E for greater Israel and a mongrelization and destabilization of Europe to realize the jewish plan of global communism with Israel as the only first world nation.

Gentiles working themselves to death all over the world, just like China functions today, while the jews live like kings in Israel.

And you people want to cuck yourselves voluntarily with the very cause of the mess we're in…

Reported for intl.

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Don't have an argument? Just call somebody a shill, it's an automatic victory.

Why misquote it? The direct quotes are pure faggotry.

And Christianity did not create western civilization you dumb faggot. Western civilization created Christianity. The European theologians rationalized the Bible to downplay all the cucked parts of it. And they used mental gymnastics to portray the Bible as supportive of Aryan ethos. This could only be kept up for a short period, however, and as soon as thr normal person learned to read he discovered that the bible is not as thr theologians said, but that it is actually pure faggotry.

I'm on your side about that. No more of those fucking Semitic brainwashing cults who only harms Europeans.

What exactly do Christians think of pre-Christian Europeans, I wonder. I guess they were "cumskins" until the God of Abraham showed up backed by the might of a Roman Empire whose best days and ascension into superpower were all fueled by paganism.

sage

Reported for intl.

Original Christianity (33 AD to mid-20th century) is the ultimate antithesis to Judaism. The New Testament is basically a repudiation of everything Judaic. If you’re not “antisemitic,” you’re not really Christian. This goes all the way back to when Jesus made a corded whip and cast the moneychangers out of the Temple. He did a bunch of other things, too, and the Jews crucified him for it. Pontius Pilate said, “Do you want me to crucify this innocent man?” And the crowd of thousands of Jews replied in unison: “Yes! His blood be on us and all our descendants.” The Jews killed Jesus.
Modern “Christianity” is, to varying degrees, basically Messianic Judaism. The idea of a common “Judeo-Christian heritage” is a total farce. The catholic church and several Protestant denominations have been utterly infiltrated and subverted. When I was researching evangelical Christianity (by far the worst), there were several times I’d look up a prominent preacher and Google Images would have a fucking Jew staring back at me. Hell, Daddy Cruz is one of them. Most of them were crypto-Jews, but several of them were literally openly raised in the Jewish tradition and then “converted” to become “Christian” preachers. More than a few of the more Judaized churches are now even de-emphasizing Jesus as the preeminent figure of Christianity. Guess who’s leading the charge. Oh, and the catholic church was basically destroyed by pedo allegations in the ‘60s and ‘70s and the “liberal reforms” started by Pope John XXIII after the death of Pope Pius XII. Every Pope since Pius has been a literal heretic, and many before him. The pedo stuff can probably be attributed to freemason infiltration. I think the current Pope is openly a freemason. They’re a fucked up crowd.
And since then Christianity has basically deliberately been made the religion of the third world, as though to strip it of any future significance. How seriously can you take the greatest religion in history if most of its adherents are mestizos or Africans? It’s disgusting what they’ve done and still doing. Regarding usury, the quintessential Jewish activity, it was banned by the church for nearly two millennia. It prevented Christians from enslaving other Christians and gave the moneylenders a precarious legal status when they got too bold and overreached. The Jews didn’t start to get out of control until the French shouted, “Liberte, egalite, fraternite!” and chopped off the Christian rulers’ heads.

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What made our ancestors great was their altruism tempered by their faith and their duty.
Today we have mocked and forbidden faith for the masses, and duty has become something to be cursed. Our Christian forebears did not allow for evil in their societies and protected their families and nations as all honorable men should. More than this, where they saw evil they sought to destroy it; where they saw ignorance they brought the light of knowledge; when they found the lesser races fumbling in the dirt and serving the whims of demons, they gave them the true faith of Jesus Christ–they set up schools and gave them the rule of law. They kept themselves pure and defended what they believed to be important to the death. They brought their glory to the rest of the world and made the places they touched better. And even when their representatives did ill, the ideology of the mission was that it should be righteous. Of course, not all men were benevolent and altruistic, but their cause was, and the mindset of the nation was that righteousness be done.
It is similar to how just a decade ago the US had to convince everyone their war was ‘just’. It, of course, was not, but society still demanded that things be fought for righteousness. This has all but disappeared today as we devolve into hatred–a consequence of forsaking God and embracing demonic concepts like ‘tolerance’ and ‘diversity’ in places once pure. Christendom shall rice once more. Every night I pray that God will have mercy on we few good men left in the West. That He will spare us, and for our piety redeem our nations. That He will cast out the jew, the muslim, the pagan, and the traitor. That He will give us the words and power to show them the light of Christ. And that when they have become our brothers they will return whence they came and bring Christianity to these spiritually barren places.
Let Christianity rise once more. Let the world see that faith in God is rewarded, that redemption is ever-achievable for he who humbles himself before the Lord. It has happened many times before, but I pray that once more the world will bear witness to God’s glory, that the faith of a few will bring salvation to the many. Let the end not come in our day, let us be the last reminder to a doomed world–a final example of God’s mercy and power. One last revival of Christendom, then let it end. Have mercy on us, Father, and let the whole world see your power and tremble!

My interest in medieval science was substantially sparked by one book. Way back in 1991, when I was an impoverished and often starving post-graduate student at the University of Tasmania, I found a copy of Robert T. Gunther’s Astrolabes of the World–598 folio pages of meticulously catalogued Islamic, Medieval, and Renaissance astrolabes with photos, diagrams, star lists, and a wealth of other information. I found it, appropriately and not coincidentally, in Michael Sprod’s Astrolabe Books, up the stairs in one of the beautiful old sandstone warehouses that line Salamanca Place on Hobart’s waterfront. Unfortunately, the book cost $200, which at that stage was the equivalent to what I lived on for a month. But Michael was used to selling books to poverty-stricken students, so I went without lunch, put down a deposit of $10, and came back weekly for several months to pay off as much as I could afford and eventually got to take it home, wrapped in brown paper in a way that only Hobart bookshops seem to bother with anymore. There are few pleasures greater than finally getting your hands on a book you’ve been wanting to own and read for a long time.
I had another experience of that particular pleasure when I received my copy of James Hannam’s God’s Philosophers: How the Medieval World Laid the Foundations of Modern Science a couple of weeks ago. For years I’ve been toying with the idea of creating a website on medieval science and technology to bring the recent research on the subject to a more general audience and to counter the biased myths about it being a Dark Age of irrational superstition. Thankfully I can now cross that off my to do list, because Hannam’s superb book has done the job for me and in fine style.

The Christian Dark Age and Other Hysterical Myths
One of the occupational hazards of being an atheist and secular humanist who hangs around on discussion boards is to encounter a staggering level of historical illiteracy. I like to console myself that many of the people on such boards have come to their atheism via the study of science and so, even if they are quite learned in things like geology and biology, usually have a grasp of history stunted at about high school level. I generally do this because the alternative is to admit that the average person’s grasp of history and how history is studied is so utterly feeble as to be totally depressing.
So, alongside the regular airings of the hoary old myth that the Bible was collated at the Council of Nicea, the tedious internet-based “Jesus never existed!” nonsense, or otherwise intelligent people spouting pseudo historical claims that would make even Dan Brown snort in derision, the myth that the Catholic Church caused the Dark Ages and the Medieval Period was a scientific wasteland is regularly wheeled, creaking, into the sunlight for another trundle around the arena.
The myth goes that the Greeks and Romans were wise and rational types who loved science and were on the brink of doing all kinds of marvelous things (inventing full-scale steam engines is one example that is usually, rather fancifully, invoked) until Christianity came along. Christianity then banned all learning and rational thought and ushered in the Dark Ages. Then an iron-fisted theocracy, backed by a Gestapo-style Inquisition, prevented any science or questioning inquiry from happening until Leonardo da Vinci invented intelligence and the wondrous Renaissance saved us all from Medieval darkness.

THE BOOK IS NOT CUCKED.

IT ADVOCATES SELF DEFENSE.

THE BIBLE IS IN NO WAY CUCKED

THE TURN YOUR OTHER CHEEK MEME
NEEDS TO DIE..IT IS LITERALLY TALKING ABOUT GETTING SLAPPED IN THE FACE.

The online manifestations of this curiously quaint but seemingly indefatigable idea range from the touchingly clumsy to the utterly shocking, but it remains one of those things that “everybody knows” and permeates modern culture. About once every 3-4 months on forums like richarddawkins.net we get some discussion where someone invokes the old “Conflict Thesis.” That evolves into the usual ritual kicking of the Middle Ages as a benighted intellectual wasteland where humanity was shackled to superstition and oppressed by cackling minions of the Evil Old Catholic Church. The hoary standards are brought out on cue. Giordiano Bruno is presented as a wise and noble martyr for science instead of the irritating mystical New Age kook he actually was. Hypatia is presented as another such martyr and the mythical Christian destruction of the Great Library of Alexandria is spoken of in hushed tones, despite both these ideas being totally untrue. The Galileo Affair is ushered in as evidence of a brave scientist standing up to the unscientific obscurantism of the Church, despite that case being as much about science as it was about Scripture.
And, almost without fail, someone digs up a graphic (see below), which I have come to dub The Most Wrong Thing On the Internet Ever, and to flourish it triumphantly as though it is proof of something other than the fact that most people are utterly ignorant of history and unable to see that something called “Scientific Advancement” can’t be measured, let alone plotted on a graph.

It’s not hard to kick this nonsense to pieces, especially since the people presenting it know next to nothing about history and have simply picked up these strange ideas from websites and popular books. The assertions collapse as soon as you hit them with hard evidence. I love to totally stump these propagators by asking them to present me with the name of one–just one–scientist burned, persecuted, or oppressed for their science in the Middle Ages. They always fail to come up with any. They usually try to crowbar Galileo back into the Middle Ages, which is amusing considering he was a contemporary of Descartes. When asked why they have failed to produce any such scientists given the Church was apparently so busily oppressing them, they often resort to claiming that the Evil Old Church did such a good job of oppression that everyone was too scared to practice science. By the time I produce a laundry list of medieval scientists–like Albertus Magnus, Robert Grosseteste, Roger Bacon, John Peckham, Duns Scotus, Thomas Bradwardine, Walter Burley, William Heytesbury, Richard Swineshead, John Dumbleton, Richard of Wallingford, Nicholas Oresme, Jean Buridan, and Nicholas of Cusa–and ask why these men were happily pursuing science in the Middle Ages without molestation from the Church, my opponents usually scratch their heads in puzzlement at what just went wrong.

The Origin of the Myths
How the myths that led to the creation of The Most Wrong Thing On the Internet Ever is well documented in several recent books on the the history of science. But Hannam wisely tackles it in the opening pages of his book, since it would be likely to form the basis for many general readers to be suspicious of the idea of a Medieval foundation for modern science. A festering melange of Enlightenment bigotry, Protestant papism-bashing, French anti-clericism, and Classicist snobbery have all combined to make the Medieval period a by-word for backwardness, superstition and primitivism, and the opposite of everything the average person associates with science and reason.
Hannam sketches how polemicists like Thomas Huxley, John William Draper, and Andrew Dickson White, all with their own anti-Christian axes to grind, managed to shape the still current idea that the Middle Ages was devoid of science and reason. And how it was not until real historians bothered to question the polemicists through the work of early pioneers in the field like Pierre Duhem, Lynn Thorndike, and the author of my astrolabe book, Robert T. Gunther, that the distortions of the axe-grinders began to be corrected by proper, unbiased research. That work has now been completed by the current crop of modern historians of science like David C. Lindberg, Ronald Numbers, and Edward Grant.

In the academic sphere, at least, the “Conflict Thesis” of a historical war between science and theology has been long since overturned. It is very odd that so many of my fellow atheists cling so desperately to a long-dead position that was only ever upheld by amateur Nineteenth Century polemicists and not the careful research of recent, objective, peer-reviewed historians. This is strange behavior for people who like to label themselves “rationalists.”
Speaking of rationalism, the critical factor that the myths obscure is precisely how rational intellectual inquiry in the Middle Ages was. While writers like Charles Freeman continue to lumber along, claiming that Christianity killed the use of reason, the fact is that thanks to Clement of Alexandria and Augustine’s encouragement of the use of pagan philosophy, and Boethius’ translations of works of logic by Aristotle and others, rational inquiry was one intellectual jewel that survived the catastrophic collapse of the Western Roman Empire and was preserved through the so-called Dark Ages. Edward Grant’s superb God and Reason in the Middle Ages details this with characteristic vigor, but Hannam gives a good summary of this key element in his first four chapters.
What makes Hannam’s version of the story more accessible than Grant’s is the way he tells it though the lives of key people of the time–Gerbert of Aurillac, Anselm, Abelard, William of Conches, Adelard of Bath, etc. Some reviewers of Hannam’s book seem to have found this approach a little distracting, since the sheer volume of names and mini-biographies could make it feel like we are learning a small amount about a vast number of people. But given the breadth of Hannam’s subject, this is fairly inevitable and the semi-biographical approach is certainly more accessible than a stodgy abstract analysis of the evolution of medieval thought.
Hannam also gives an excellent precis of the Twelfth Century Renaissance which, contrary to popular perception and to “the Myth”, was the real period in which ancient learning flooded back into western Europe. Far from being resisted by the Church, it was churchmen who sought this knowledge out among the Muslims and Jews of Spain and Sicily. And far from being resisted or banned by the Church, it was embraced and formed the basis of the syllabus in that other great Medieval contribution to the world: the universities that were starting to appear across Christendom.

And slaves right? You're supposed to associate Christianity with "slave morality" (even though it has nothing to do with slaves).
Who are St. Perpetua and St. Cornelius the Centurion?

Someone whom Rome granted citizenship to; says a lot about the state of the Empire, doesn't it?

God and Reason
The enshrining of reason at the heart of inquiry, combined with the influx of “new” Greek and Arabic learning, launched a veritable explosion of intellectual activity in Europe from the Twelfth Century onwards. It was as though the sudden stimulus of new perspectives and new ways of looking at the world fell on the fertile soil of a Europe that was, for the first time in centuries, relatively peaceful, prosperous, outward-looking, and genuinely curious.
This is not to say that more conservative and reactionary forces did not have misgivings about some of the new areas of inquiry, especially in relation to how philosophy and speculation about the natural world and the cosmos could affect accepted theology. Hannam is careful not to pretend that there was no resistance to the flowering of the new thinking and inquiry but, unlike the perpetuators of “the Myth”, he gives that resistance due consideration rather than pretending it was the whole story. In fact, the conservatives and reactionaries’ efforts were usually rear-guard actions and were in almost every case totally unsuccessful in curtailing the inevitable flood of ideas that began to flow from the universities. Once it began, it was effectively unstoppable.
In fact, some of the efforts by the theologians to put some limits on what could and could not be accepted via the “new learning” actually had the effect of stimulating inquiry rather than constricting it. The Condemnations of 1277 attempted to assert certain things that could not be stated as “philosophically true”, particularly things that put limits on divine omnipotence. This had the interesting effect of making it clear that Aristotle had, actually, got some things badly wrong–something Thomas Aquinas emphasized in his famous and highly influential Summa Theologiae:
The condemnations and Thomas’s Summa Theologiae had created a framework within which natural philosophers could safely pursue their studies. The framework… …laid down the principle that God had decreed laws of nature but was not bound by them. Finally, it stated that Aristotle was sometimes wrong. The world was not ‘eternal according to reason’ and ‘finite according to faith’. It was not eternal, full stop. And if Aristotle could be wrong about something that he regarded as completely certainly certain, that threw his whole philosophy into question. The way was clear for the natural philosophers of the Middle Ages to move decisively beyond the achievements of the Greeks. (Hannam, pp. 104-105)
Which is precisely what they proceeded to do. Far from being a stagnant dark age, as the first half of the Medieval Period (500-1000 AD) certainly was, the period from 1000 to 1500 AD actually saw the most impressive flowering of scientific inquiry and discovery since the time of the ancient Greeks, far eclipsing the Roman and Hellenic Eras in every respect. With Occam and Duns Scotus taking the critical approach to Aristotle further than Aquinas’ more cautious approach, the way was open for the Medieval scientists of the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Centuries to question, examine, and test the perspectives the translators of the Twelfth Century had given them, with remarkable effects:

[I]n the fourteenth century medieval thinkers began to notice that there was something seriously amiss with all aspects of Aristotle’s natural philosophy, and not just those parts of it that directly contradicted the Christian faith. The time had come when medieval scholars could begin their own quest to advance knowledge… …striking out in new directions that neither the Greeks nor the Arabs ever explored. Their first breakthrough was to combine the two subjects of mathematics and physics in a way that had not been done before. (Hannam, p. 174)
The story of that breakthrough, and the remarkable Oxford scholars who achieved it and thus laid the foundations of true science–the “Merton Calculators”–probably deserves a book in itself. But Hannam’s account certainly does them justice and forms a fascinating section of his work. The names of these pioneers of the scientific method–Thomas Bradwardine, William Heytesbury, John Dumbleton, and the delightfully named Richard Swineshead–deserve to be better known. Unfortunately, the obscuring shadow of “the Myth” means that they continue to be ignored or dismissed even in quite recent popular histories of science. Bradwardine’s summary of the key insight these men uncovered is one of the great quotes of early science and deserves to be recognized as such:
[Mathematics] is the revealer of every genuine truth… …whoever then has the effrontery to pursue physics while neglecting mathematics should know from the start that he will never make his entry through the portals of wisdom. (Quoted in Hannam, p. 176)
These men were not only the first to truly apply mathematics to physics but also developed logarithmic functions 300 years before John Napier and the Mean Speed Theorem 200 years before Galileo. The fact that Napier and Galileo are credited with discovering things that Medieval scholars had already developed is yet another indication of how “the Myth” has warped our perceptions of the history of science.
Similarly, the physics and astronomy of Jean Buridan and Nicholas Oresme were radical and profound, but generally unknown to the average reader. Buridan was one of the first to compare the movements of the cosmos to those of another Medieval innovation–the clock. The image of a clockwork universe which was to serve scientists well into our own era began in the Middle Ages. And Oresme’s speculations about a rotating Earth shows that Medieval scholars were happy to contemplate what were (to them) fairly outlandish ideas to see if they might work–Oresme found that this particular idea actually worked quite well. These men are hardly the products of a “dark age” and their careers are conspicuously free of any of the Inquisitors and threats of burning so fondly and luridly imagined by the fevered proponents of “the Myth”.

You're doing yourself proud, christcuck.

Copy pasted argument discarded.

Galileo, Inevitably
As mentioned above, no manifestation of “the Myth” is complete without the Galileo Affair being raised. The proponents of the idea that the Church stifled science and reason in the Middle Ages have to wheel him out, because without him they actually have absolutely zero examples of the Church persecuting anyone for anything to do with inquiries into the natural world. The common conception that Galileo was persecuted for being right about heliocentrism is a total oversimplification of a complex business, and one that ignores the fact that Galileo’s main problem was not simply that his ideas disagreed with scriptural interpretation but also with the science of the time.
Contrary to the way the affair is usually depicted, the real sticking point was the fact that the scientific objections to heliocentrism at the time were still powerful enough to prevent its acceptance. Cardinal Bellarmine made it clear to Galileo in 1616 that if those scientific objections could be overcome then scripture could and would be reinterpreted. But while the objections still stood, the Church, understandably, was hardly going to overturn several centuries of exegesis for the sake of a flawed theory. Galileo agreed to only teach heliocentrism as a theoretical calculating device, then promptly turned around and, in typical style, taught it as fact. Thus his prosecution by the Inquistion in 1633.
Hannam gives the context for all this in suitable detail in a section of the book that also explains how the Humanism of the “Renaissance” led a new wave of scholars, who sought not only to idolize and emulate the ancients, but to turn their backs on the achievements of recent scholars like Duns Scotus, Bardwardine, Buridan, and Orseme. Thus many of their discoveries and advances were either ignored and forgotten (only to be rediscovered independently later) or scorned but quietly appropriated. The case for Galileo using the work of Medieval scholars without acknowledgement is fairly damning. In their eagerness to dump Medieval “dialectic” and ape the Greeks and Romans - which made the “Renaissance” a curiously conservative and rather retrograde movement in many ways–they discarded genuine developments and advancements by Medieval scholars. That a thinker of the calibre of Duns Scotus could become mainly known as the etymology of the word “dunce” is deeply ironic.
As good as the final part of the book is and as worthy as a fairly detailed analysis of the realities of the Galileo Affair clearly is, I must say the last four or five chapters of Hannam’s book did feel as though they had bitten off a bit more than they could chew. I was able to follow his argument quite easily, but I am very familiar with the material and with the argument he is making. I suspect that those for whom this depiction of the “Renaissance,” and the idea of Galileo as nothing more than a persecuted martyr to genius, might find that it gallops at too rapid a pace to really carry them along. Myths, after all, have a very weighty inertia.
At least one reviewer seems to have found the weight of that inertia too hard to resist, though perhaps she had some other baggage weighing her down. Nina Power, writing in New Humanist magazine, certainly seems to have had some trouble ditching the idea of the Church persecuting Medieval scientists:
Just because persecution wasn’t as bad as it could have been, and just because some thinkers weren’t always the nicest of people, doesn’t mean that interfering in their work and banning their ideas was justifiable then or is justifiable now.
Well, no one said it was justifiable, and simply explaining how it came about and why it was not as extensive, or of the nature, that most people assume is not “justifying” it, anyway–it is correcting a pseudo-historical misunderstanding. That said, Power does have something of a point when she notes:
Hannam’s characterization of [Renaissance] thinkers as “incorrigible reactionaries” who “almost managed to destroy 300 years of progress in natural philosophy” is at odds with his more careful depiction of those that came before.
This is not, however, because that characterization is wrong, but because the length and scope of the book really do not give him room to do this fairly complex and, to many, radical idea justice.

Conclusion
My only criticisms of the book are really quibbles. The sketch of the “agrarian revolution” of the Dark Ages described in Chapter One, which saw technology like the horse-collar and the mouldboard plough adopted and water and wind power harnessed to greatly increase production in previously unproductive parts of Europe is generally sound. But it does place too much emphasis on two elements in Lynn White’s thesis in his seminal Medieval Technology and Social Change–the importance of the stirrup and the significance of the horse collar. As important and groundbreaking as White’s thesis was in 1962, more recent analysis has found some of his central ideas dubious. The idea that the stirrup was as significant for the rise of shock-heavy cavalry as White claimed is now pretty much rejected by military historians. Also, his claims about how this cavalry itself caused the beginnings of the feudal system were dubious to begin with. Finally, the idea that Roman traction systems were as inefficient as White’s sources make out has also been seriously questioned. Hannam seems to accept White’s thesis wholesale, which is not really justified given it has been reassessed for over forty years now.
That aside, this is a marvelous book and a brilliant, readable, and accessible antidote to “the Myth.” It should be on the Christmas wish-list of any Medievalist, science history buff, or anyone who has a misguided friend who still thinks the nights in the Middle Ages were lit by burning scientists.

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Christianity has no doctrine about miscegenation. It just isn’t a part of the Christian message. It certainly isn’t pro-miscegenation. The reason for that is because Christianity is a true religion with real applications for all people of every race. But I’ll tell you what, the white race saw its most expansive and dominant period when it was faithfully Christian (think Victorian England which conquered half the world.) And the moment they dropped their faith, their empires fell away with them. And the moment they dropped their faith and started promoting sodomy, feminism, et. al.; that’s when the birth rate started plummeting and that’s when pro-immigration became popular and that’s when the white race really became in danger.
A man can be a nationalist and a Christian. A man cannot be an internationalist and a Christian. The purpose of missionary work is to spread the gospel to foreign nations, not to import foreign nations into your own and dislodge the gospel to make room. In fact, it was God who divided the races, and God wants the races to remain separate on earth. Once we get to heaven, we’ll be given new bodies and we’ll all be one race and one nation. And let me tell you what that new body will be better than any fleshly body and you will be like God because he will remake you in his image.
So no, Christianity is not a racist religion. It’s a neutral religion that acknowledges the existence of race. You can still be a racist and a Christian. But you should be willing to give the gospel to those you perceive as lesser races; if you are truly a master race then you should be a good steward and govern the world well as your fathers did. Not promote filth, sodomy, and decay in the name of fighting the “oppression” of Christianity.

Christ wasn’t a socialist. He was a religious radical. He advocated charity by the individual. He did not want a complex temporal power structure established to tax people at gunpoint to subsidize poverty.
Santa Claus, likewise, rewards virtue with toys and evil with coal. If anything, what he represents is a purely capitalistic idea–regardless of background, race, creed, etc., by virtuous and diligent behavior one will be rewarded materially. Whereas slothfulness and evil reaps nothing of value.
A Wonderful Life is about valuing family, not about establishing a top-down economy.
A Christmas Carol isn’t about a capitalist who turns into a socialist. It’s about a capitalist who overcomes the bitterness of his childhood and learns to value his family and his friendships more than his business. He doesn’t stop being a capitalist; he still solves all of his problems with money.
The Grinch Who Stole Christmas is about a terrorist who realizes that his diagnosis of capitalist society as being corrupt and materialistic was wrong. He realizes that though the society acknowledges capitalistic values, it also has a spiritual core independent of that system. His realization that the two can exist in harmony allows him to come to terms with his own bitterness and join society, rather than living like a hermit up in the mountains.
Charlie Brown, ironically, is the only story with any socialist values at all, and they’re negative. Charlie Brown used everyone’s money to make a terrible economic decision and invest in a bad tree that didn’t fulfill its intended function. The people were then forced to band together to make the best out of this smoking ruin on their own initiative. In essence, A Charlie Brown Christmas is about a government using the people’s money poorly, and then the public sector having to make the best of it with their own innovation.

I find it ironic that people believe Christians can’t come to Holla Forums because it “violates their faith.”
I’m not saying this in a “they are coming here to fish for sinners” kind of way. I’m saying it in a “maybe God wants us here” kind of way. Think about the things promoted on Holla Forums. Really think about them. We stand for strong family and strong fathers. We stand for logic and reason. We demand the utmost skill in conveying ideas. We promote freedom and free speech.
We get a lot of flak for hating the Jews, blacks, and women. Anyone who has been on here more than a week knows that we don’t actually hate those people. What we hate is what they do and what they stand for. The Jew stands for greed and gluttony. The black stands for sloth and ignorance. The feminist stands for lust and oppression.
We hate the idea of our children being influence by insanity, laziness, and greed. This is a statement that the outside world will never understand: Holla Forums is a bastion of moral superiority. In our anonymous and uncensored little world, we let flow our stark moral standards. That is why the world hates us. Not because we are immoral, but because we stand on a moral high ground so traditional that the cesspool of society cannot see it for what it is.

The Bible teaches that those who clothe themselves in Christ are “born again, to a new heritage,” that is the “oldest heritage.” Christians, no matter the color of their skin or the face of their father, are sons and daughters of Abraham. All a man has in this world is what he was given by his parents. They may not leave him wealth, fame, or a place in society. What they do leave him is the culture of his people, the blood in his veins, and the morals and ethics of their own fathers. As the Old Testament taught, some men were stained from birth because of this. They were unclean, just as there was food that was unclean.
But God says that there is another way–a better way. A man need not be bound by the lot that has befallen them. In the New Testament, Peter writes a letter in response to some Jews who do not understand the commandment to accept Gentiles as their own. It conflicted with their teachings, and they were refusing to accept them as equals. “We are the Chosen ones,” they argued, not them. In it, Peter berates them and tells them that the spiritual inheritance given by God supersedes the inheritance of the earthly father. Every man who accepts Jesus Christ as his savior becomes one of the Chosen. I will say it again, because it is important: Every man who accepts Jesus Christ as his savior becomes one of the Chosen. If you accept Jesus Christ into your heart, you are born again to the line of Abraham and will be given a heritage greater and older than any earthly bloodline. You will inherit the Kingdom of Heaven. It becomes your birthright, and you will dwell there eternally. You become a Son or Daughter of God.
Peter based his argument off of a vision he had, detailed in Acts 10, in which God laid out food before him and commanded him to eat. But Peter saw that the food was unclean, and so he refused. God then said this to him. What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common. (Acts 10:15) Later, Peter realized that this was not just a revelation about food, but about man himself. When Christ died, he came to cleanse man of the Original Sin. Thus his revelation. God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean. (Acts 10:28) This vision shows something very important. Why do the Jews believe that the Gentile is bad? Because he is “unclean”. What did God show to Peter? That the sacrifice of Christ has “cleansed the unclean”. There is no food now that cannot be eaten. There is no man now who is a Gentile. Not only food, but man himself has been cleansed. There are no unclean races. Not anymore. The only man who is unclean is the man who has not accepted Christ into his heart and become one of the Chosen. The only man who is clean is the man who has clothed himself in Christ; he is a Son of God and shall inherit the Kingdom of Heaven.

In the leftists’ fumbling and bumbling, they scream about the color of someone’s skin as though that is the definitive qualifier for race. Their ignorance betrays you. Holla Forums argues that Zimmerman, in spite of being Hispanic, is an “honorary white” for what he did. Why? Because they understand that what a man is born is not as important as what he grows up to become. They know that there is more to a man than the mere quality of his blood or the shade of his skin–that this alone is not the ruler of everything he is, was, and will become. Zimmerman is a Christian. He has clothed himself in Christ. He is a Son of Abraham and will dwell in the House of the Lord. Whatever earthly heritage he bore has been overwritten and superseded by a spiritual one. Zimmerman is one of the Chosen. Why? Because God does not care about the flesh. “Build up not your wealth on Earth, for it will rot and decay. Build up your treasure in the Kingdom of Heaven, for it is eternal.” At the end of all things and the beginning of eternity, there will be no more flesh and all will be judged based on their choices and character.
That is the revelation of God, the revelation of Christianity, and the revelation of Jesus. That salvation is no longer a birthright, but a choice. You were born flawed. God has the highest standards and all fall short of them, no matter the color of their skin. Were some more clean than others? Yes. But none were clean enough. But because He loves us, He has cleared away the debt of Original Sin. He has cast aside the earthly inheritance, and He has allowed any man who so chooses to rise above his earthy blood and become a spiritual heir to the Kingdom of Heaven itself. No longer must you be of the blood to be Chosen. Now a man may become Chosen though Christ, and only through Christ.
Holla Forums will tell you that race is a matter of trends (meaning genetics), not individuals. My addition to that statement is this: the revelation of Christ is a personal revelation. It is an individual revelation. A whole race cannot be excused, an entire culture or people cannot be forgiven. You must have the wherewithal to come to God, prostrate yourself, admitting your flaws and failings and seeking forgiveness for your transgressions. You can only do it alone. No one can drag you to it. You cannot be converted by the sword, as a Muslim can. You are not born inferior, like the Jew would tell you. You must come to the revelation on your own. You are made Chosen by your own hands, by the Grace of God. You choose yourself, and because of that, God chooses you. Race is about trends, not individuals. So is damnation. There is no Christian who is not an individual over the trend. More people will fall than will rise. Many who are of good stock will fall because they could not raise themselves up to be better. Do not glorify the sluggard, wastrel, layabout, or the parasite simply because of his “good brewing”. They are degenerates, unable to so much as raise a hand to meet the face of God that has come down from such purity to meet them halfway. They are not the Chosen because they lack the willingness to apply themselves to the path of salvation–a path made so simple that it comprises but a single step.

To believe otherwise–to glorify them because of their blood–is to behave as the Jews behave and to believe as the Jews believe. That is the true betrayal of leftist intention. That they parrot the beliefs of the Jews with only a few words changed. That they speak but do not hear. That they recite but do not understand. You scream “kike on a stick” and “christcuck” without comprehending the root terms. Holla Forums is against miscegenation for excellent reasons. Holla Forums is against multiculturalism for excellent reasons. Above everything else, Holla Forums is a overwhelmingly nationalist. If every Jew that pushed orthodox Judaism went to live in Israel and the only jews outside of it were those who disliked or who were not “jew-ish” in spite of being jews, and did not push any jewish interests or assert zionism, would anyone have a problem with them? “Every man in his country.” Zionists are Jewish nationalists, so why not leave them to their own nation? There would be those that criticized them for how they obtained their city-state. I would be among them, for as a Christian, I know that the covenant of the Old Testament was dissolved, so the Jews had no right to the land they took.
They stole it, in other words.
On the whole, however, there would be far less animosity against them. If Africans stayed in Africa and lived or died by their own laws, there would be far less said about them. If mussulmen laid down their swords and picked up plowshares to repair their waitron land, far fewer people would hate them. If cultures did not try to devour one another and races to subsume one another–instead leaving each other well enough alone with mutually respected boundaries–the world would be a far better place than it is today. But the Jew is not content with his own nation. He will take what he sees as his… and then take and take and take some more from everyone else. And that is why he cannot be tolerated. Because he will not stay behind the walls he has raised and foster his own people. Because he feels he must destroy and subjugate the world.
This is the truth of the world that Holla Forums has realized, of which Christians have always been aware. The truth is that we did not start this. Ours is not an instigation, but a reaction. That is what liberals, Jews, mussulmen, what have you, refuse to admit, and it is the truth that they fear the most. Their enemies, whom they hate so deeply, once did not call any man an enemy and would call a stranger a friend. That it is those who the left protects and idolizes who started the fires–who pushed out the good things in this world for their own ego and profit. That is the truth of the world. We did not start the fire. The Crusades were justified and reactionary to centuries of Muslim conquest, slavery, and genocide. The Inquisition was justified and reactionary to Muslim taqiyya and the Muslim invasion and conquest of Iberia. Questioning the story of the Holocaust is justified, as all things should be questioned under the eye of rationality, even God.

This is the truth that the left fears most: that we have been right all along. And they fear it because of their ego. Because their pride is too great for them to concede to having been wrong, about anything, ever. Pride has been the assassin of empires and nations. It has burned continents and ravaged civilizations. Pride, it is said, will be the one sin that drags the most to Hell. Pride so great that you cannot bring yourself to take the holy hand that has been extended to you. Pride so heavy and immense that you cannot bring yourself to grab the rope that has been thrown to you as you drown. Even though you hold the views you do through no fault of your own, your pride still stays your hand from that rope. And it will be that pride, in the end, that will be your undoing.
That is why you are not worthy. That is why you are not Chosen. In the end, every knee will bow. Those that will not bow will be bent. Even that of the Antichrist. Liberals try so hard to divide and conquer. Do they never stop to think why they are compelled to do so? Do they never cease and wonder at why things such as as Nationalism and Christianity–which seek only be left alone–drive them to such heights of rage? It is because the mere existence of something that is not of theirs is a suggestion that they might have been wrong. Their pride demands their rage at these things. And they give in to that demand. And so the wheel turns and the fire rises. Stand for truth in a world of lies. Stand for purity in a world of corruption. Stand for chastity in a world of degeneracy.

I don’t care about the context. Know why? Because the context wouldn’t be cared about if this scene took place in a synagogue or, Allah forbid, a mosque. CAIR and all the infiltrated parts of the Europeans’ governments would be up in arms. News stations would be squealing about the countless death threats being acted upon. For months the film would be marked as nothing but a hateful and despicable hate movie of hatred against “our dear Muslim friends who only want peace.”
And if it was a synagogue? The movie would never have been made because the jews in Hollywood would have burst a blood vessel screaming, “ANTI-SEMITE!” loud enough to explode their lungs during the scriptwriting process. If it was made, the film director would be forced to apologize and all actors involved would be barred from entering most of Western Europe for taking part in a despicable anti-Semitic hate film of anti-Semitic hatred. The anti-Semitic actors would be marked as anti-Semites and would never be able to get a role in a film again. Or, if they did, it would be as sparse an opportunity as Mel Gibson’s current predicament. News organizations would be vomiting blood and Jews all over the US-of-Israel would be weeping tears, demanding political recompense for the film’s Nazi-like evil Nazidom and for triggering every Jew’s–every Jew’s–PTSD over the lost 6 quintillion.
BUT SINCE IT’S IN A CHRISTIAN CHURCH, IT’S OKAY.
Why? Because Christians don’t blow people up, rape young white children for 15 fucking years, push for Sharia Law, push for Israeli genocide of the Middle East, get people fired because they remind us of an incident we weren’t even alive for but which “totally happened because my grandfather’s second cousin twice removed was turned into a lampshade!”
“But it’s just a funny scene in a movie, silly Christian! Relax!” Tell that to the victims of systematic rape and sexual slavery by over 100 Muslim men for 15 fucking years in Rotherham, Derby, and Oxford who were given no ear for their pleas and no protection if they spoke out. Tell that to the comedians, actors, documentary directors, and all other artists and politicians who get blacklisted, fired, and jailed because they say even the slightest thing against Israel, even when that country has an actual concentration camp of its own and continues the genocide of innocents because they are “collateral damage.” REMEMBER THE SIX OCTILLION!
No. It’s not funny. And you people who laugh and enjoy it don’t know everything that has, is, and will occur behind and around the production of such a scene.

Who was Simon Magus? An epin meme wizard who Christians sank because MUH ONLY JESUS IS ALLOWED TO DEVELOP HIS MAGICAL POTENTIAL!

There is no shortage of heresies these days.
If you want to adopt some blasphemous, perverted, fun house mirror reflection of Christianity, you will find a veritable buffet of options. You can sift through all the variants and build your own little pet version of the Faith. It’s Ice Cream Social Christianity: make your own sundae! (Or Sunday, as it were) And of all the heretical choices, probably the most common–and possibly the most damaging–is what I’ve come to call the Nice Doctrine.
The propagators of the Nice Doctrine can be seen and heard from anytime any Christian takes any “bold” stance on any cultural issue, uses “harsh” language of any kind, condemns any sinful act, or fights against evil with any force or conviction at all. As soon as you stand and say, “This is wrong and I will not compromise,” the heretics swoop in with their trusty mantras.
They insist that Jesus was a nice man and that He never would have done anything to upset people. They say that He came down from Heaven to preach tolerance and acceptance and He wouldn’t have used words that might lead to hurt feelings. They confidently sermonize about a meek and mild Messiah who was born into this Earthly realm on a mission to spark a constructive dialogue. The believers in Nice Jesus are usually ignorant of Scripture, but they do know that He was ‘friends with prostitutes’ and once said something about how, like, we shouldn’t get too ticked off about stuff, or whatever. In their minds. He’s essentially a supernatural Cheech Marin.
Replies to my earlier statements about gay rights militants illustrate this heresy. That post prompted an especially noteworthy email from someone concerned that I’m not being “Christlike” because I “call people names.” He said, in part, “You aren’t spreading Christianity when you talk like that. The whole message of Jesus was that we should be nice to people because we want them to be nice to us. That’s how we can all be happy. Period. It’s that simple.” Be nice to me, I’ll be nice to you, and we’ll all be happy. This is the ‘whole message’ of Christianity? Really? Jesus Christ preached a Truth no deeper or more complex than a slogan on a poster in a kindergarten classroom? Really? A provocative claim, to say the least. I decided to investigate the matter, and sure enough, I found this excerpt from the Sermon on the Mount: “We’re best friends like friends should be. With a great big hug, and a kiss from me to you, won’t you say you love me too?”
Actually, wait, sorry, that’s from the original Barney theme song. God help us. We’ve turned the Son of God into a purple dinosaur puppet. There’s no way to be certain, but most theologians believe that despite popular perception, Christ looked nothing like this. I don’t recognize this Jesus. This moderate. This pacifist. This nice guy. He’s not the Jesus I read about in the Bible.
I read of a strong, manly, stern, and bold Savior. Compassionate, yes. Forgiving, of course. Loving, always loving. But not particularly nice. He condemned. He denounced. He caused trouble. He disrupted the established order. On one occasion–or at least one recorded occasion–He used violence. This Jesus saw the money changers in the temple and how did He respond? He wasn’t polite about it. I’d even say He was downright intolerant. He fashioned a whip (this is what the lawyers would call ‘premeditation’) and physically drove the merchants away. He turned over tables and shouted. He caused a scene. (John 2:15) Assault with a deadly weapon. Vandalism. Disturbing the peace. Worse still, intolerance. In two words: not nice. Not nice at all. Can you imagine how some moderate, pious, nice “Christians” of today would react to that spectacle in the Temple? Can you envision the proponents of the Nice Doctrine, with their wagging fingers and their passive aggressive sighs? I’m sure they’d send Jesus a patronizing e-mail, perhaps leave a disapproving comment under the news article about the incident reminding Jesus that Jesus would never do what Jesus just did.

Personally, I’ve studied the New Testament and found not a single instance of Christ calling for a ‘dialogue’ with evil or seeking the middle ground on an issue. I see an absolutist, unafraid of confrontation. I see a man who did not waver or give credence to the other side. I see someone who never once avoided a dispute by saying that He’ll just ‘agree to disagree.’ I see a Christ who calls the Scribes and Pharisees snakes and vipers. He labels them murderers and blind guides and ridicules them publicly (Matthew 23:33). He undermines their authority. He insults them. He castigates them. He’s not very nice to them. Jesus rebukes and condemns. In Matthew 18, He utilizes morbid and violent imagery, saying that it would be better to drown in the sea with a stone around your neck than to harm a child. Had our modern politicians been around two thousand years ago, I’m sure they’d go on the cable news shows and shake their heads and insist that there’s ‘no place for that kind of language.’ No place for the language of God.
Jesus deliberately did and said things that He knew would upset people. He stirred up division and controversy. He provoked. He didn’t have to break from established customs, but He did. He didn’t have to heal that man’s hand on the Sabbath, knowing how it would disturb others and cause them immense irritation, but He did, and He did so with ‘anger’ (Mark 3:5). He could have gone with the flow a little bit. He could have chilled out and let bygones be bygones, but He didn’t. He could have been diplomatic, but He wasn’t. He could have told everyone to relax, but instead He made them uncomfortable. He could have put them at ease, but He chose to put them on edge.
He convinced the mob not to stone the adulterer (John 8), and you’ll notice that He then turned to her and told her to stop sinning. Indeed, never once did He encounter sin and corruption and say, “Hey, do your thang, homies. Just have fun. YOLO!” The followers of Nice Jesus love to quote the ‘throw the first stone’ verse–and for good reason, as it’s a beautiful and compelling story–but you rarely hear mention of the exchange that occurs just a few sentences later in that very same chapter. In John 8:44, Jesus rebukes unbelieving Jews and calls them ‘sons of the Devil.’ Wow. That wasn’t nice, Jesus. Didn’t anyone ever tell you that you can catch more flies with honey, Jesus? Of course, you’d catch even more flies with a mound of garbage, so maybe ‘catching flies’ isn’t the point. While we’re often reminded that Jesus said, “Live by the sword, die by the sword,” we seem to ignore his other sword references. Like when he told his disciples to sell their cloaks and buy a sword (Luke 22), or when He said that He “didn’t come to bring peace, but a sword.” (Matthew 10)
Now, it’s true that He is God and we are not. Jesus can say whatever He wants to say. But we are called to be like Christ, which begs the question: what is Christ like? Well, He is, among other things, uncompromising. He is intolerant of evil. He is disruptive. He is sometimes harsh. He is sometimes impolite. He is sometimes angry. He is always loving. Christ was not and is not a cosmic guidance counselor, and He is not mankind’s best friend, nor did He call us to be. He made dogs for that role–our destiny is more substantial, and our path to it is far more challenging and dangerous. And nice? Where does nice factor into this? Nice: affable, peachy, swell. Nice has nothing to do with Christianity. I have nothing against nice–nice is nice–but even serial killers can be nice to people. They generally are exceptionally affable, except when they’re murdering. That means they’re nice to, like, 97 or 98% of everyone they meet. I guess they’re following Christ almost all of the time, right?

And tolerance? Tolerance is easy. Any coward can learn to tolerate something. Tolerance is inaction: intolerance is action. We are called to refuse to tolerate evil. We are called to get angry at it and actively work to destroy it. Who’d have guessed it–anger is far more godly than tolerance ever could be. Obviously I’m not suggesting that anger is automatically, or even usually, justified. Christ exhibited righteous anger: righteous anger is the sort of anger that naturally fills our soul when we confront the depths of depravity and sin. It is wrong to seethe with rage because someone cut us off in traffic or gossips about us behind our back, but it is also wrong to feel no anger when babies are murdered and the institution of the family is undermined and attacked. Anger is good when it is directed at things that offend not us, but God. Just as Christ’s intolerance, like the intolerance we’re commanded to have, stems from a desire to save souls and defend Truth.
Even when we have righteous anger, we do not have carte blanche to act on it in any way we please. But according to the Bible, there are times to use strong language, there are times to cause a scene, there are times to hurt people’s feelings, and there are times when we might need to use physical force. Jesus told us to turn the other cheek when we are personally attacked. He never told us to turn our backs entirely and let lies spread and evil grow. So enough with the niceties. Christians in this country sound too similar to the Golden Girls song and not enough like the Battle Hymn of the Republic. There’s too much ‘thank you for being a friend.’ and not enough ‘lightening from His terrible swift sword.’ We’re all hugging and singing Kumbaya when we should be marching and shouting Hallelujah. We’re nice “Christians” with our nice Jesus, and we are trampled on without protest.
Enough, already.
I think it’s time that Christianity regain its fighting spirit–the spirit of Christ. I think it’s time we ask that question, “What would Jesus do?” And I think it’s time we answer it truthfully. Jesus would flip tables and yell. Maybe we ought to follow suit.

I’ll address Luke 6:35. The “love” in “love your enemies” is ἀγαπᾶτε, a conjugate of agape. This is not love like you love your mom–storge–not love like in romance–eros–nor love for a friend–philos. This is loving your enemy like God loves them–agape.
Now, God does not love by making you feel good for doing evil. God does not allow one to sin and not suffer the natural consequences thereof. Christ is saying we should endeavor to reform and rehabilitate our enemies. At first blush, this suggests that leftists are right–that killing them is not the answer. But it is not right to go on letting them kill or enslave young Christian girls to be sold on the sex market, either. Where is your love for our brothers and sisters in Christ? Will you throw them aside for some infidels?
“That which you do to the least of my brothers, you do unto me.” Matthew 25:40 So, with a choice between effectively letting someone enslave and rape Jesus or regrettably destroying evildoers that have already determined to use force, I think it is a Christian answer to fight back. However, at the same time, there are already people fighting back and this Oregon guy does not have the means to help in that way. If this guy is called upon to go martyr himself for the faith, he should do it. His sacrifice for spreading the word will do good for Christ. I do not feel that is what God has called me to do, but the Holy Spirit, while the same essence, may call on each of us to use our talents in different ways. To sum up, 6:35 is not a prohibition on fighting to save oneself or other Christians, although it does put in a strong suggestion about trying other methods first. Just like every secular ideology in history.

But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite the on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
– Matthew 5:39

What did He mean by this? It’s better translated as “do not diametrically oppose an evildoer” and the reason you were supposed to turn the other cheek is:
1. In antiquity, you only hit someone with your right hand (the clean one).
2. Backhands were to insult, a frontal slap showed equality and challenge.
3. By turning your cheek, the aggressor was forced to stop hitting you or acknowledge you as an equal; that was quite a statement to a Roman by a conquered Judean.
So Jesus was telling us to fight back smartly, using public shame as a weapon, not just attack head-on like a moron.
ἐγὼ δὲ λέγω ὑμῖν μὴ ἀντιστῆναι τῷ πονηρῷ· ἀλλ’ ὅστις σε ῥαπίζει εἰς τὴν δεξιὰν σιαγόνα σου, στρέψον αὐτῷ καὶ τὴν ἄλλην·
First of all, ἀντιστῆναι, translated as “do not resist”, has more to it than ‘resist’. Strong’s Concordance at 436 notes “to take a complete stand against” and it derived from a military term to diametrically oppose one’s foes. Thayer’s notes “to set oneself against.” ‘Resist’ here is passive, but the term ἀντιστῆναι clearly denotes an aggressive posture. Better might be “But I say unto you, do not square off against an evildoer.” Especially in the context of the examples all being examples of how to engage in intelligent resistance.
“Give him your cloak, too” is Christ referencing Exodus 22:26 to shame your opponent. Exodus 22:26 compels creditors to return the cloak at night so that the poor can sleep in it. By giving up your cloak, you shame the creditor who is willing to sue for your tunic–and God will hear the cries of the debtor.
As for walking the extra mile, that’s a reference to the Roman law of impressment which allowed a Roman soldier to compel a person of a conquered state to carry his pack for one mile, but no further. By carrying it the second mile, the soldier would be forced to comically beg you to put it down lest his commanding officer see and he get in trouble. So it clearly does not mean “don’t fight back”–it means to fight back smartly. This is what happens when people try to read scripture with no reference for the history or culture in which it was written.
Remember, Christ taught us to fight smartly, not to not fight. Of course a Christian fights against evil! How could we not?

I’m going to use a quote from the Bible, to help us better understand what sins are and why things are sins.

Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you. Everyone who sins is a slave to sin.”
John 8:34

I think that Jesus was incredibly insightful on this–the idea that being a sinner makes you a slave to your sins. Taking this idea forward, we can understand that sins are acts that make us slaves to our base drives and impulses that erode our ability to control ourselves and therefore make rational decisions. Even though this is a Biblical idea, you can apply it to examine certain acts and determine if they are sinful without listening to the letter of the law in the Bible itself. If we think about it this way, God didn’t just arbitrarily make things sins because he doesn’t like them. Sins are sins because they destroy us–because they are self-destructive acts or acts which destroy those who care about and love–which is an abomination to both nature and, if you so believe, God.
Casual sex and pornography are not sins simply because they are offensive to God. They are sins because they manipulate the parts of your mind that are meant to be dedicated to forming stable and healthy sexual partnerships with other people. They are sins because they are habit forming and they destroy your capacity for real love. Hell, again, exists in more than just the spiritual sense. Look at the life of the true degenerate. Not just someone who occasionally dabbles in degeneracy, but the real diehards. The drunks, the homosexuals, the crack addicts. Are these people living a fulfilling, meaningful life ? Their lives are hell. They don’t need to wait to die to go to hell, they’re already there.

To prove a point regardless of the facts. Holla Forums is a racial realist board, and in an effort to discredit the Bible in that light, they will most frequently misquote a verse from Galations:

In fact I just debunked this shit in multiple threads this week. The full verse, which makes clear that Paul is speaking symbolically, read:

On a board of perverts who spills their sacred seed to Japanese cartoon characters, its little wonder why hatred of God is so prevalent.

A lot of people seem to be confused because they’ve heard a moron or two say, “SJWism is like a religion.” They’re only familiar with Christianity, and most of them only have a surface understanding of it. Allow me to tell you why Christianity and Modern Liberal thought are incompatible. First of all, they’re predicated on opposite assumptions. The foundational belief is vital to a philosophy and is the one thing from which the philosophy draws its conclusions. This first assumption is often unable to be proven true or false, but can have evidence to support it. Proof and evidence are different things in this case–evidence being supporting observations, proof being a mathematical certainty.
Christianity’s first assumption when it comes to society is that “people are basically bad.” Now, even though they believe that man was perfect once upon a time, they believe that he “fell” and became imperfect. Catholics believe that this is Original Sin–something you are born with thanks to the Fall–and that is cleansed with Baptism. However, Orthodox and Protestants hold that you are only born with a sinful nature–that you are born with a propensity to do bad–but not with an invisible mark. They believe you are held personally responsible for your sins. They hold to personal responsibility, as people are bad and must be made accountable for their decisions since evil deeds they commit are ultimately their fault. The Evil comes from within, not from without. “For it is not what goes into a man’s mouth that condemns him, but what comes out.” Because of this, they believe that society redeems man; it does not corrupt them. Institutions, manmade structure, rules, and moral objectivity–form walls and barriers for man’s safety to allow him to live his life without Evil. And, within this view, Evil is anything that harms both others and the self.
Now, this is completely contrary to modern Liberalism which presumes that man is basically good. But then they must answer, “Whence comes Evil?” Their answer is from without. Since Man is basically good, if he commits evil then it must be because of some outside factor. In this case, society condemns man and does not redeem him. Because of this, Modern Liberalism seeks to reform society–rather than Man, as Christians do. To a Modern Liberal, since their basic assumption is that Man is basically good, it follows to believe that if the man is left alone, and not provoked by outside forces, (structure, “outdated” morality, artificial “patriarchy”, etc.) he will do good. Therefore, there is no such thing as evil done by the self. But Evil can be done to him, so they are concerned with the individual’s freedom first and foremost, as that means that no outside influence can come in and disrupt Man’s basic default state of “good”
Modern Liberalism = Man is Good, Society Corrupts.
Christianity = Man is Evil, Society Redeems.

Christianity is not blue pilled. If Christianity is blue pilled, why is it declining in popularity? What kind of blue pill becomes less popular? “There is a rise in atheism in the US and Europe despite growing religiosity worldwide…” Doesn’t this feel familiar? (1) The subversion of the West includes the destruction of Christianity. All European culture is under attack. Immigration on the rise? You’re racist for pointing it out! Promiscuity on the rise? You’re slut shaming for pointing it out! Feminism on the rise? You’re sexist for pointing it out! Miscegenation on the rise? You’re racist for pointing it out! Divorce on the rise? You’re slut shaming for pointing it out! Atheism on the rise? Finally! (2)
Christianity is not jewish. Was Christianity made by jews? No, by Israelites. Is Christianity jewish? No, the Old Testament was written by Israelites, 400 years before Jesus was born. (3) The New Testament–what Christians follow–was written not only in Israel, but also Greece and Italy. (4) Regardless, the Jews completely reject both the New Testament and Jesus Christ. Jews HATE Christ. In fact, jews hate Christianity so much that they do not use the plus symbol (+) in their schools: “…with the wish to avoid use of a symbol that’s reminiscent of the Christian cross…” (5)
Christianity is not submissive. “He made a whip out of cords and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables.” – John 2:15 Is that submissive? To trash a jewish temple and defy Israeli authority? (6) Jesus Christ was both a loving person and a wrathful man, and this reflects on Christendom. Ever wondered why you aren’t living in a Muslim shithole? The Crusades–a movement organized by Pope Urban II–asking Catholics to retake Jerusalem in retaliation of Islamic Jihads invading the Holy Land and incursions on Christian shores. (7)
Christianity is European. According to a survey by Pew, 75% of Europeans considered themselves Christian. (8) And remember, atheism is on the rise, which means that Europe is historically over 75% Christian. In fact, Europe was 95% Christian a century ago and 98% in America. (9) Your ancestors were Christian. The Founding Fathers were Christian. Christianity is not just the religion of Europe, it is its culture and tradition. Europe and Christianity are culturally symbiotic. One cannot exist without the other. The term “jewish” refers to both the ethnicity and religion of the jewish people. The term “European” refers to both the ethnicity and religion of the European people.

1. ucg.org/the-good-news-world/-news-and-trends-the-tragic-decline-of-european-christianity
2. ibtimes.com/pew-survey-predicts-rise-atheism-us-europe-despite-growing-religiosity-worldwide-1869696
3. biblica.com/en-us/bible/bible-faqs/when-was-the-bible-written
4. biblestudy.org/maps/books-of-the-bible.html
5. decodeunicode.org/w3.php?nodeId=145
6. youtube.com/watch?v=geferlpn_5A
7. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades
8. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Europe
9. christianpost.com/news/christianity-declines-in-europe-increases-in-africa-and-asia-says-survey-65619

Newsweek cites authorities who indicate that “the idea of a common Judeo-Christian tradition first surfaced at the end of the 19th century, but did not gain popular support until the 1940s, as part of an American reaction to Nazism…” and concludes that, “Since then, both Jewish and Christian scholars have come to recognize that–geopolitics apart–Judaism and Christianity are different–even rival–religions.”
Joshua Jehouda, a prominent French Jewish leader, observed in the late 1950s: “The current expression ‘Judeo-Christian’ is an error which has altered the ccourse of universal history by the confusion it has sown in men’s minds, if by it one is meant to understand the Jewish origin of Christianity… If the term ‘Judeo-Christian’ does point to a common origin, there is no doubt that it is a most dangerous idea. It is based on a ‘contradictio in abjecto’ which has set the path of history on the wrong track. It links in one breath two ideas which are completely irreconcilable, it seeks to demonstrate that there is no difference between day and night or hot and cold or black and white, and thus introduces a fatal element of confusion to a basis on which some, nevertheless, are endeavoring to construct a civilization.”
The few New Testament ‘proof texts’ utilized by Christian Zionists and secular proponents of the modern Judeo-Christian myth are the product of poor translation. Messianic Jewish writer Malcolm Lowe in his paper Who Are the Ioudaioi? concludes, like Robert and Mary Coote, that the Greek word “Ioudaioi” in the New Testament should be translated as “Judeans” rather than the more usual “Jews.” Israeli scholar David Stern also came to the same conclusion when translating the Jewish New Testament. Few Christians are aware that the translators of Scripture often mistranslated the word “Jew” from such words as “Ioudaioi” (meaning from, or being of as a geographic area, Judean). The word Judean, mistranslated as “Jew” in the New Testament, never possessed a valid religious connotation, but was simply used to identify members of the native population of the geographic area known as Judea.
Also it is important to understand that in the Scriptures, the terms “Israel”, “Judah” and “Jew” are not synonymous, nor is the House of Israel synonymous with the House of Judah. The course of history is widely divergent for the peoples properly classified under each of these titles. Accordingly, the authoritative 1980 Jewish Almanac says, “Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a Jew or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew.”
A writer for The Dearborn Independent, published in Michigan in 1922, summarized the problem thus: “The pulpit has also the mission of liberating the Church from the error that Judah and Israel are synonymous. The reading of the Scriptures which confuse the tribe of Judah with Israel, and which interpret every mention of Israel as signifying the Jews, is at the root of more than one-half the confusion and division traceable in Christian doctrinal statements.”
While the Pharisees recognized the laws of Moses, they also claimed that there was a great body of oral tradition which was of at least equal authority with the written Law, and many claimed that the Tradition was of greater authority. By their tradition, they undertook to explain and elaborate upon the Law. This was the “Tradition of the Elders”, to which the name of Talmud was later given. It had its beginning in Babylon, during the Babylon captivity of the people of Judah, where it developed in the form of the commentaries of various rabbis, undertaking to explain and apply the Law. This was the foundation of Rabbinic Judaism.

This Judaism was very different from the religion of the ancient Israelites. The late Rabbi Stephen S. Wise, who was the Chief Rabbi of the United States, expressed this conclusively when he said: “The return from Babylon, and the adoption of the Babylonian Talmud, marks the end of Hebrewism, and the beginning of Judaism.” The Jewish Encyclopedia tells us that the Talmud is actually “the product of the Palestinian and Babylonian schools” and is generally referred to as “the Babylonian Talmud.” Dr. Boaz Cohen in Everyman’s Talmud states the Talmud is the work of “numerous Jewish scholars over a period of some 700 years, roughly speaking, between 200 [BC] and 500 [AD].” Rabbi Louis Finkelstein in Volume 1 of The Pharisees, the Sociological Background of their Faith says, “Pharisaism became Talmudism, Talmudism became Medieval Rabbinism, and Medieval Rabbinism became Modern Rabbinism. But throughout these changes of name, inevitable adaption of custom, and adjustment of Law, the spirit of the ancient Pharisee survives unaltered.”
The Talmud, more than any other literature, so defined Judaism that Rabbi Ben Zion Bokser admitted, “Judaism is not the religion of the Bible.” (Judaism and the Christian Predicament, 1966, p.159) It is the Talmud that guides the life and spirit of the Jewish people. This is to say, therefore, that the central message of the Old Testament has been fulfilled in the New Testament. It must be understood that it was the position of Christendom for at least 1900 years. It was the position, not only of Justin Martyr, but of such Stalwart saints as Irenaeus and Hippolytus; a position embraced by Martin Luther and John Calvin, the two towering figures of the Protestant Reformation. Christianity and Judaism are two distinct religious inheritances. The very term “Judeo-Christian” is a mischievous misnomer without historical or Scriptural validity. “Judeo-Christianity” should be seen for what it is–another secular twentieth century, manufactured for narrow political ends, that is supremely disrespectful to all true believers. Any fundamental unity that does exist between world religions cannot be appreciated by ignorant and secular scholarship, but only through knowledge of the great primordial and universal truths.

Its not a terrible idea but its just too far gone now. All christians behave like the current pope nowadays.

Just fuck their waifu and leave their religion to fend for itself. If it can't survive the test of time without forced attempts to keep it alive then maybe it doesn't deserve to be around in the first place.

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Most Christians have been subverted by “Judeo-Christianity.” It’s not their fault. They were raised to be “Christian” and a combination of federal sabotage and Jewish lobby groups has ensured that this is what “Christianity” is for them. Believe it or not, the current institution doesn’t like Christians or Christian values at all. They haven’t for decades. Christians are too dangerous to keep around without being pacified in some manner. The real ones can’t be bribed, are almost impossible to threaten, and will do the right thing just because it’s the right thing to do or tell the truth even if it’s damaging because they feel it’s true and thus needs to be known.
The leviathan the state has become has no love for Christian values or mores. It represents a direct threat to them and their power. Jews and Muslims both have passages about lying to others to protect yourself or deceiving others as to what your true faith really is so as to better attack your enemies. Christianity alone cleaves to the truth for no reason beyond that it is true. You will never see any Jewish or Muslim martyrs. The Christian predilection to make martyrs out of common men is what makes it a dangerous religion to globalism, corporate interests, and other sundry institutions. This is why Marching to Zion is so important. It’s a redpill that will turn any but the most terminally cuckservative Christian to our side. Enormous effort was put into suppressing the evangelical sector of America, the UK, and Europe for precisely this reason. If there is anything that world Jewry and NWO fear, it’s Christianity waking up.
They believe they can suppress America, that they can control the UK, that Europe can do nothing to stop them, and that Putin will fall in line when pushed. They have the Chinese businessmen eating out of their hands, so desperate are they to have a seat at the world table. And Islam is nothing more than a false flag–a deliberately awoken animal made to run amok to frighten and confuse while the real criminals get away with their crimes. When the time comes, if everything goes according to their plans, they will be suppressed and incorporated into the whole, and Islam will be pacified or outright eradicated.
If there is any nation where they fear something could go wrong, it’s America, where freedom of speech is protected–so you cannot simply legislate lies into being truth. If you are an American Christian, you are on the very cutting edge of the globalist suppression techniques. The greatest amount of brainwashing is being leveled at you. If anything goes wrong with their plans–if anything can completely derail their propaganda and turn the tide–it’s probably going to be Christians uncucking themselves. And if it starts anywhere, it’s going to be in America. People have grown sick and tired of establishment “conservatism.” They crave the real thing. They would not cleave so strongly to Trump if they were not prepared to shift towards it. This is your opportunity to actually push this information. You will never have another, better chance to redpill people than right now. Start with the Christians. They’re the most powerful ally in this fight.

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This has got to be imkampfy, he's the only one I've ever seen who acts this way. Fucking hell, m8y.

The most rabid Zionist supporters are evangelicals, so the best way to counter them is to actually teach them the Bible. Most evangelicals are cults of personality with Bible flavoring and preach utter heresy–dual covenant theology and Zionism, for starters. The following are the best arguments for debating and trumping zionist evangelicals:

Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
– Revelation 3:9

This points out how the Jews, as they call themselves, are not Godly, and that their subversion was predicted.

And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
– Galatians 3:29

This destroys any notion of a Jewish right to the land of Israel based on the Bible, as the chosen people are those that accept Christ as savior–not a particular race and certainly not those that rejected Him.

Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
– 1 John 2:23

This destroys the idea that the Jews are still the chosen people, because they have denied Christ and so have denied God.

Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. They answered him, We be Abraham’s seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?
Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever. If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. I know that ye are Abraham’s seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you. I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.
They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham’s children, ye would do the works of Abraham. But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
– John 8:31-47

Taken together, I have taught these passages to several tea party and conservative groups to massively undermine their support of Israel. You will be attacked at first, but if you learn the passages well enough, you can stump them and change the whole group.

Jesus is the singular biggest enemy of the NWO since He claims to be the Jewish messiah. The end goal of the secular/pseudo-atheist/zionist plan is to bring forth a different messiah, at which point the false Jews who claim to be Biblical jews (but are not)–this synagogue of Satan–will try to install a global zionist tyranny with Jerusalem as the world capital.
They hate nothing more than Christianity, since Christianity condemns their every deed. They have committed countless unspeakable atrocities–human experiments in the name of scientific progress, secret agencies going around murdering innocents, the planning and execution of genocides, wars waged to enrich themselves, killing millions of civilians in the process, turning healthy Christian societies into barbaric, sexually degenerate cesspools of immorality. The atrocities they have committed upon the world are beyond counting and their brutality and ruthlessness in obtaining their goals has no comparison anywhere. There has never been a more perfect global tyranny than that of today, where a small group of ‘elite’ global rulers control every single aspect of our lives while at the same time making everyone believe that this is freedom. Their NWO is 1984 on steroids.
And Christianity has predicted all of this. The prophecies concerning these developments can be found in the New Testament–most importantly, in the book of Revelations where their entire mark of the beast plan to economically enslave the world has been laid out in detail. As is their ultimate fate–and although most of them are deceived and believe they are actually the good guys and that they can persevere and win a war against God–deep inside they know that they are walking on the broad path of damnation and that there is only one end to their journey: eternal torment in the fires of Hell.
O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets and stonest them that are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Behold your house is left unto you desolate.
– Matthew 23:37,38
Then answered all the people (Jews) and said, “His blood be on us and on our children”
– Matthew 27:25
But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you to councils, and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten.
– Mark 13:9
Ye are of your father the devil and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. Which of you convinceth me of sin? And I say the truth, why do you not believe me? He that is of God heareth God’s words, ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
– John 8:43-47
Stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost as your fathers did, so you do. Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which showed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers.
– Acts 7:51-53
It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing you put it from you and judge yourself unworthy of everlasting life, we turn to the Gentiles.
– Acts 13:45-51
For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision, whose mourns must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre’s sake… wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith: not giving heed to Jewish fables and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.
– Titus 1:10-14
The Jews, who both killed the Lord Jesus and their own prophets, and have persecuted us: and they please not God and are contrary to all men: forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins always: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.
– 1 Thessalonians 2:14-16
Behold I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews and are not but do lie; behold I will make them to come and worship before thy feet…
– Revelation 3:9
So Jewish.

The main problem stems from the fact that the word Jew/Judaism has multiple meanings, but most people don’t realize this. This confusion was brought about intentionally. The word Jew was invented a couple centuries ago in English translations of the Bible as a shortened form of the word Judean. This refers to the province of Judea, which at the time of the New Testament was a multi-racial, multicultural area, whose capital city was Jerusalem, which was controlled by the Pharisees. Jesus and most of His disciples did not come from Judea–they came from Galilee–and therefore were not Jews by the Biblical definition. Judea was originally inhabited by the Israeli tribe of Judah, but by this point was quite mixed. Whereas Galilee was inhabited only by the Israeli tribe of Benjamin. The only disciple that was a Jew was Judas, who betrayed Jesus.
The Pharisees were the evil Talmudists who Jesus opposed, and who ultimately got Jesus killed for daring to disagree with them. Later, Jerusalem was destroyed, and some Pharisees survived and became rootless nomads. Along the way they mixed with more people who converted to Talmudism. Then, after the invention of the English word Jew, the Talmudists started calling themselves Jews, and renamed their religion Judaism. They started claiming that they’re the people who lived in ancient Israel, and that they’re the “chosen people” spoken of in the Bible. In reality, their religion completely contradicts the Old Testament–even the Torah–and they know it, but they’ll never admit it. They brought about such a deliberate conflation and confusion of the word Jew that today people now use a definition of Jew that is expanded to include everyone in ancient Israel when that’s not at all what Jew meant originally. They also like to conflate Judaism with Hebrewism, but the religion of the Pharisees (Talmudism) only began after they returned from captivity in Babylon, and the Old Testament religion of the Hebrew people before that was quite different. Today, only a tiny minority of people who call themselves “Jews” don’t follow the Talmud.
The modern confusion comes from the fact that most people–even most Christians–don’t realize this linguistic and historical deception. This is especially true of the English-speaking world (Protestants, foremost), due to modern, bastardized, heretical translations of the Bible, plus a divorce from the true traditions of the original Christian church. They’ve totally forgotten how the Jews persecuted Christians endlessly before Christians eventually gained power through the Roman Empire and started dishing it right back to them. Just like a nation becomes ruined when it forgets its own history, the same is true of a religion. In fact, the same arguments used to claim that Christianity is inherently weak because it has now been subverted can be used to say that Western nations are inherently weak because they have been subverted, or that white people are inherently weak because a genocide is being committed upon them thanks to their altruism. It’s just not a good argument at all.

The failure of our people in the past has always been from trusting Jews. There may well be some good ones, some who genuinely want to make the world a better place. The problem is every time they have been trusted, it has led to disaster. Every. Single. Time. I say enough. I think the rest of true Christendom agrees with me–we do not need them. We have our own great thinkers, our own great minds. Men of skill, men of purpose; men who can lead us out from this mire. We do not need anyone else; we do not need jews.
One of the few things we will all agree on is nationalism. Due to our nationalist beliefs, we believe that the united people–be it by geographical location, by religion or by genetics–can build a society for ourselves. History has proven the truth of this–our nations being unquestioningly the greatest that the world has ever seen. What led to their downfall? Trusting the jew, taking their advice, accepting short-term gains over massive long-term losses. Small loans from Jews to help us with a war resulted in them worming their way into our society–into media, government, education, and recently even the Church where they defile our beliefs and the monuments we made to God. Taking their advice on immigration. Taking their advice in how we treat money–allowing usury, allowing international banks, allowing debt. Allowing them to brainwash our women into thinking a life of monotony and chasing a false currency is superior to that of raising a family. Allowing them to brainwash our children into believing that socialism is the path to utopia, that communism will work, that it only has not because our people just are not ‘good enough’ for it and thus must either be ‘reeducated’ or removed for their ‘hate crimes’.
The Parasite is our eternal enemy. It is the child of the devil, and we are the followers of God. The adversary shall not triumph over us; we shall have nothing to do with it ever again. We shall serve as a bulwark against it, a mighty shield to protect our people from the beautiful lies of the deceiver, from the poisonous words of the children of he who masquerades as an angel of light. We know now to never trust them, and we never shall again. There is no need to ever ally with the Jew. If one says something good, express agreement and move on. Perhaps even say that it is a good idea and that as a Christian man of European heritage you may well seek to include it in your own nation, but never the Jew itself, never its people. We must remain forever separate. While it is a Jew it can be no brother of ours. It does not matter what it believes or what it says; it cannot be trusted. History has proven this.
Revelations 18: Rejoice over her thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her. And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all. And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee; And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. And in her was found the blood of prophets. and of saints. and of all that were slain upon the earth.
These merchants–by whose sorcery all nations have been deceived–shall be destroyed. They will pay for what they have done to our world; this time they will not escape the fires. They will be consumed in the wrath of God and we shall rejoice at the spectacle. The Lord’s justice done, and our people finally avenged.

Reminder that intl has never had any response to anything posted above

That's because the Church is run by the KGB you fucking retard. Of course they support Jewtin's foreign policy, along with everything else he does, including flooding subhuman caucasus muslims into historically Nordic Russian lands.

Orthococks Patriarch and KGB agent Kirill:

pravmir.com/west-should-learn-from-russia-to-accept-muslim-refugees-patriarch-kirill/

You hear that, faggot? Muslims are your brothers, according to the head of the Russian church.

You still worship the God of Abraham. I worship the gods and goddesses of my white ancestors.

REMINDER THAT ONLY EFFEMINATE CUCKS AFRAID OF ARGUMENTS CONSISTING OF FACTS ACCUSE EVERY PERSON WHO DISAGREES WITH THEM OF BEING FROM INTL

Oh and next time you see a blonde Scandinavian woman betray her culture for a mudslime, remember that the Christianity forsaken was a shield against this very behavior.

Not an argument.

COME ON GUYS

COME ON GUYS

lol, you’re not even trying

Yes, according to them, Europeans were simply savages before the Jews brought them the law of god. They literally worship Jews and believe that Europe would not exist without Jewish law and their cucked religion.

oh I don't know the Low fat fad became less popular and eventually people will discover that low-carb is nonsense as well.

I just came up with 2 examples, now its time for you to proceed with your cognitively dissonant christcuck ramblings for 4 hours on end again.

Reported.

Please, you people would just turn it into White Worship 101. It would be Mormonism 2.0 except replacing Joseph Smith with some alt-right faggot or Trump.

1. Leftists already do that, see pic related.
2. It would actually help them and the Jews.

Holy cocksucking shit, try the fuck harder. Reported.

lol, you're not even trying.

For you, worrying about Jews is the whole world. I agree that Jews are evil, because they're subversive and mentally diseased and it seems totally impossible to cure them of it. But for me, kikes are an afterthought. Yeah they're a problem, but the white man has tens of thousands of years of history behind us. We've solved bigger, more destructive problems than the Jews; Hell we even somehow managed to survive the Younger Dryas impact and the metaphorical sinking of Atlantis. One the last kike is dead, what do you have left? Just your eternally kiked religion, which would still exist solely to hate a cancerous race which no longer exists. The only good thing you Christians could ever accomplish with your memeoplex is actually succeed at making yourselves obsolete. Pagans have bigger fish to fry than the Jews.

Remember that Scandinavia pre-Christianity was land of fearless warriors and they got emasculated by the teachings of the sand cult.

And reported.

You mean before they voluntarily abandoned their fairy tales for a true religion?

Try harder.
Exact opposite. Just proved it. Try harder.

You are completely cucked and don't even know it. Sad!

And that is not a misquote. The bible literally says it and it means it. Godly niggers are your brothers in Christ and as a christcuck you must accept them and love them. Same with converted kikes. Do you deny this?

wew

Evidently they were quite influenced by the writings of Greek philosophers, to the point of blatantly ripping text from their works. There were many works they didn't pickup, many were "Gnostic", they took more influence from the Greek mind than they did the Jewish one. This was done to appeal to the Roman citizens.

Later on they absolutely despised these sorts though, as can be seen in the middle ages where only the lowly troubadours knew their connection to the Hellenic faith. Today, the Jew flaunts the destruction of the Hellenic faith in his own "mystery", as can be seen in the #Pizzagate debacle, and even in the Masonic Lodges.

Completely cucked. Yet I have strawberry blonde hair, my entire family is fundamentalist Christian, and we are ferverently en guarde against darkies and mudslimes? Gotcha, thanks for the reminder!

Christianity, if followed as it is written, will make your life better in that it will instill God's morality in you and you will understand your weaknesses, but weigh them on Christ.

But that's not what Christianity is about. People ought to follow Christ because Christianity is truth, not because they think it'll make them do X or Y. Your ancestors, the ones who built your people up, did not believe in Christianity for their own sake, but because they understood it as truth. Study and read, and it'll point you to Christ. If you won't believe things from popular media about whatever nationalist hero you have, then why believe it about Christ? This new attitude towards Christianityjs guided by this worldview.

Are you retarded? A blue pill is a widely accepted lie which is hazardous to the well-being of a civilization and its people.

That Carbs are evil is most certainly a blue pill, consuming a low carb diet can raise cortisol and kill testosterone especially if you are hitting the gym, low fat diets can lead to one not properly absorbing fat soluble micronutrients and can lower free testosterone significant and increase inflammation due to a lack of saturated and monounsaturated anti-inflammatory fats in the diet.

You know you might want to consider not being a retard for a day. You might just learn something.

Just a little effort. That’s all I ask.
Not an argument.

Where will Christianity be if we run into a sentient race of malevolent aliens? Too busy stammering about how they're really the Nephilim or some shit from some obscure corner of some unregarded valley in Lebanon. You people have no theological flexibility. You have to hammer everything into an historical context defined, might I add, by a religious text that is half written in kike-runes to begin with, and the half that's written in Greek was written by a kike in almost every case.

Its funny cucks like you report me and everyone who disagrees with you all the time and yet nothing has happened to me because of it.

Gee I wonder if even the mods think you are either shitposting or just retarded?

Volutairly? It took around 200 fucking years of Bible thumping and christian subversion in the populace before it was accepted. It's actually one of the places it took the most time to get recognized by the common people of all Europe. Samis got them beat by far though.

The phrase DEUS VULT comes to mind.
lol, enjoy being slaughtered by aliens
Hi, kike.

Reported.

Traitors? Some of the first cucked traitors to betray their ancestors and people to start worshiping a Jew?

I do have a fondness for the Nag Hammadi scriptures. But those were written by Hellenistic, Kemetic Egyptians, who were, as we've established numerous times, white people. Not Semites.

Compare that with an actual deset cult, which has been invading, enslaving, and raping Christendom since 690 A.D.

ok

Reported.

Ironic I seem to be putting a lot more effort into my posts than you do. Calling people kikes for having different opinions than you is not an argument its an ad hominem.

Funny how you still have no refutation to a single thing that was posted.

This is the worst thread I've ever seen and all of you should be ashamed. Who here has even been here longer than six months? Sad!

Moral relativism isn't an all-or-nothing choice. In all honesty, what you call moral relativism I call virtue ethics, which is more concerned with building a good character than worrying about the moral calculus behind every single action until your hair goes grey. White people are generally good people. Unlike the Jew, we don't need laws battered into our heads by the eternal god of Abraham, we just need room to be ourselves and we generally do a pretty good job of being civilized.

*fixed

It’s too fucking easy.

THIS IS WHAT CHRISTIANS ACTUALLY BELIEVE

Funny because Codreanu was a cuck who got killed by muh monarch because muh divine right of kings in muh christcuck religion. He could have been a true fascist revolutionary, but instead he decided to let himself be arrested and killed instead of challenging the authority and overthrowing the government. Because of this cuckoldry, his comrades were killed and his nation destroyed by communism. Good job faggot.

Those works should have been what converted the Jews to a semi-Hellenic faith, and its a shame it never happened. If the right Christian cults were executed wholesale and dumped into the catacombs, the Jewish race might have been genetically and culturally eradicated.

Hi, intl.

Hi, I got my minors in ethics and theology. Congratulations on not knowing what virtue ethics actually is and replying to me before even bothering to take a look at the Wikipedia entry no less.

*it's

Because there's no Roman Emperor to give us patronage and use his imperial authority to backup the pronouncements of our ecumenical councils.

Trips discarded, anti-White.

And reported.

I've been drinking the liquid-jew, excuse my shitposts

HEY CHRISTCUCKS I FUCKED UR WAIFU

media.8ch.net/file_store/4dd78d978471a0ad855306dd42b7160e306b09ea7682ea90a985023b13f808cb.mp4/I raped the Christcuck wai….mp4

I agree with this. We could have demographically overwhelmed and assimilated the Jew in the time of the early Roman empire. But its rulers were more interested in petty power plays, and to be fair, the Jew was a mostly-irrelevant tribe of second-class citizens. Our white ancestors didn't know at that time the depth of the threat they were dealing with.

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It wasn't at all. Christians race mix all the time, retard. And of course you make it only about religion and ignore race, but at least Islam isn't a cuckold religion. Honestly, if we have to choose between race mixing christcuckoldry or race mixing Islam, then Islam is the clear better option.

I told you what to do. Gain a cursory amount of knowledge about virtue ethics before posting retarded bullshit. Virtue ethics is what the Sophists used to argue against Socrates and his post-structuralist philosophy.

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You would have been strung up by your own ancestors. For a board which worships its genetic inheritance, you perverts certainly know how to discredit yourselves.

Liberals!

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Not if I had been around to prevent the spread of kikestianity in the first place cuck.

And reported. Hi, intl.

Hi, intl.

You're either a mod or a really bad shill. It's too bad I have to utter that sentence.

False, heathen. Religion and race have historically been closely correlated, and only in the modern context of heretical schisms could you make such a statement. Historically, race mixing and religious treason were one and the same.

He's keeps replying to me but I already filtered him.

religiotard detected.
always obsessed with "fool"
OUT

I’m glad we’re to this point in your copy/paste script, because that means you’re already out of shitty, disproven “arguments” and have to resort to board politics.

Hi, intl.

Reported.
Reported.

Boy OP you sure triggered all the fucking jews on this board. Don't worry though, the cucked christians will either return to the ways of their ancestors, or perish. Christianity itself will not go away.

Hi, Moishe. How are the coffee shops in Jaffa? Might want to take a break and buy some salted fish for Schlomo.

Except pagans will never amount to anything and are one of the least popular religious affiliations. Sikhs and new age fags have a better chance of succeeding at even the most miniscule victory which you lot can't even embrace.

Also
user plz

At least try to use some decent grammar merifat.

This is how retarded you actually are.

(63) posts of utter butthurt.

Reported.

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From what did modernity and modern thought arise? Post-Reformation Christian thought. Progressivism is merely whiggish puritanism secularized and Marxed up.

Gee, and here I was thinking Holla Forums was about being right, not about being popular. This is supposed to be a place where bad ideas come to die, not a hugbox where we worry about MUH PR.

Except the whole part where it allows your nation to be overrun by shitskins and your race bred out.

How do you figure? It is historical fact that the events of the old testament never happened, which means the entire basis of the religion is false.

There is only one important virtue.
We Must Secure The Existence Of Our People And A Future For White Children.

Which is why we repeatedly tell you to kill yourself, intl.

lol the boogyman shitposter is still responding

Threadly reminder that (((they))) are terrified of anons talking to christians, and will do anything (((they))) can to limit as much as possible.

Try harder.

Christianity will never amount to anything beyond a few fringe ascetics in the desert outside Alexandria - t. some faggot in antiquity

Reported.

Agreed, good thing it's Christians making all the white babbies.

я знаю

Christians worship the same demon as (((they))) do - Yaldabaoth the Usurper.

Reported.

Literally this much shitposting. I will say, I'm surprised you haven't banned me yet. I know how sensitive you are about alternative religion being brought up.

well they dont call you national SOCIALISTS for no reason :^)

Reported.

I am not religious genius.

There were no Hebrew slaves in Egypt ever, there was no Solomon, he didn't build a temple, there was a Josiah who ran a tiny chiefdom, that was the glorious kingdom of Israel. There was a Babylonian Captivity and it was during that when the Old Testament began to be developed by cobbling together disparate sources from various peoples and traditions and putting Yahweh in over the name of the original gods and making up shit for filler.

I want you to tell me honestly; within a handful of paragraphs; and actually from your own reasoning why this subject has you so hot under the collar. I think authentic spirituality is at the heart of a genuine Aryan man. If we can't discuss it honestly and without being shilled into oblivion, how are we ever going to make progress at polishing our mirrors as the Buddhists would say?

Try again.
Try again.
wew

You’re going to need an actual fucking argument, you stupid faggot. I bet you think The Flood didn’t happen, either.

day of the stake when?

Here’s an idea: commit suicide immediately, you cocksucking pile of shit. You have no argument, no refutation, and nothing of any actual substance to add. Everything you have said has been disproven years ago–usually even centuries. Your lack of knowledge is your problem, not ours. Reported.

Wake me up when Atheist women aren't sluts and bad mothers, and pagan women aren't just wiccans looking for a change of pace.

Also wake me up when the secularist get their WHITE BIRTHRATES up.

until then, it's just a bunch of faggots, being faggots (cept they hate niggers so it's okay LOL)

Sage for a shitty D&C thread

Do you have any archaeological evidence for the existence of Solomon's Temple? Any non-Jew sources for the existence of a Solomon? Any evidence for Hebrew slaves and an Exodus (no, Hyksos were not Hebrews)?

A flood happened, because the ice caps melted and rose the sea levels, but the account of the Flood predates Jewish scripture by over a millennia and comes from many cultures. Jews just stole it like they do everything.

Nigger, the story of the flood in the Old Testament IS the story of the Younger Dryas event, passed down for FUCKING MILLENNIA. Your leftist bullshit timeline is irrelevant to the facts of the matter.

Or, you know, all archaeological, historical, geological evidence contradict the old testament stories. They are Jewish fairy tales, user, and you are cucked by them. You cannot defeat the external Jew until you defeat the inner Jew, but you cannot do that because all your mythos, thus your entire mentality, is Jewish. It's disgusting.

I see a lot of buzzwords and no real talk coming outta you. Japan has been, until the last decade or two, an incredibly successful ethnostate. They are pagans with a heaping spoonful of Buddhism which helps give them an overarching theology along with worshiping the gods of their municipalities and natural features. Why is that so threatening to you? That's exactly what we should be looking for as authentic white men. There's a mountain I see every day on my drive home for work, and it looms large in my consciousness. Almost as if it projects a great and powerful god across the landscape it overlooks.

b-b-b-ut theres no evidence!!!! merely coincidental!!!!!!!

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why should i hate godly niggers?

doesnt mean i want them living in my country

Wake me up when the majority of Christian women are actually living the trad life, getting married young and having large families and it's not just a few highly visible outliers while the majority are just as degenerate as any atheistic feminist or hedonistic club-slut.

Reported.

I guess we'll both stay asleep then.

That's not evidence, that's some very wild stretches to justify your belief in ancient Jewish mythology. At least I could respect you if you were pushing the mythologies of our Indo-Aryan ancestors. Hell, I could respect you if you were pushing the Gnostic version of Christianity because that shits all over the Jew-elements and all the doormat cuckiness.

It’s not even fun anymore.

Fucking hell another D&C Thread? I'm starting to lose track of how many times we've had threads like these where it's the same people on all sides starting an argument and getting either unsuspecting newfags or other regular posters involved to increase the D&Cing. Hell, it's seeming like the shills that come into every single one of threads are creating religious threads on purpose just to keep the shit flinging happening.

If it wasn't apparent, all this does is to have us keep attacking each other while keeping us from focusing on the more important issues. A thread on religion is fine, but as of late, it attracts way too many shills on all sides to make a worthwhile thread on religion. All (((they))) want to do is have us constantly argue about what really happened in the past and what our ancestors believed in and practiced, when it all had an impact, on all sides, in shaping our civilization and nations. Not to mention due to (((them))) subverting, perverting, hiding, and destroying much of our history, we still don't have an idea what really happened then until we acquire pure, unaltered records of the time period, but that's for another thread.

The last thing we need is to be at each others throats. Any christian that comes here to Holla Forums is more than aware of how pozzed the modern institutions are and wants to help our homelands from the current path of destruction (or are following a christian version of the pagan traditions of old), while any pagan that comes here is more than willing to do the same and though may not share the same religion, respect the christians that are more than willing to fight to save our homelands and are willing to work with them. Hell, some of us are christian, but also have Celtic/Nordic/Pagan ancestry and respect and honor both backgrounds (myself included).

No matter what religion you believe in and practice, we are Holla Forumsacks first and foremost, working together to stop (((them))) and to defend and save our homelands, which is happening. We need to keep focusing on that so that we don't lose the momentum we've gained so far. It's what God, gods and goddesses and our ancestors would want, and what our enemies fear, which is why they're here, to keep us fighting each other rather than working together.

lol

Really, just wake me up when Christianity stops helping anti-whites ethnically displace us by bringing in thousands of refugees so they get a cut of Judas silver from the Pharisees.

Not actually true. It's another lie that Christcucks like to tell themselves. Christian birth rate is not higher than average white birthrate. In fact, most Christian nations have abysmally low birth rates. Poland has a lower birth rate than Sweden or Norway.

Good. I am glad this conversation is not fun for you. Because the kike god crowding out the authentic spirituality of our people is probably the biggest problem we face as Aryans. Stop pretending to not know what avatarfagging means.

This, plus everything I posted above, will never ever EVER get a refutation from the shills. That our mods are paid shills is all that keeps them here.

Boring. Try harder.

How about that.

I'm totally willing to reach across the aisle to Christians. But it would be nice if we could actually have these debates, without certain (((entities))) shilling them to no end because they're afraid of what information we might exchange.

I live a non-hedonistic, traditionalist lifestyle and I get no rewards from it other than spiritual, physical and mental and that isn't worth even a fucking dollar in today's market. Sorry I criticize women, but you defending them anonymously on the internet won't make one loyal to you.

this thread is literally just intl talking to itself
this thread is literally just intl talking to itself
this thread is literally just intl talking to itself
this thread is literally just intl talking to itself
this thread is literally just intl talking to itself
this thread is literally just intl talking to itself
this thread is literally just intl talking to itself
this thread is literally just intl talking to itself
this thread is literally just intl talking to itself

You’re sure not very good at reading, are you?

You'd know what an avatar was if you knew anything about Hinduism.

White christian birthrate is just barely over 2.1 replacement level, nowhere near the levels the want to hype though.

Funny how Japan is doing better than all Christian nations on earth. I thought it was the truth and gods true religion, lol.

We're at an impasse, clearly. Christcucks, being sentimental as they are, trying to force altruism and importing "The poor unwashed masses" to our shores because "God said we should do this lol"

And the Humanists eating it up because their lack of belief in anything has malformed into the very same thing (just with more dick sucking and ass fucking, because love is love bigot)

So we're stuck in the middle, with people who want to do the "Right thing" and others who "Just wanna have fun, do what they want, and not hurt anybody"

What a poz'd world we live in. We are spiritually dead, looking for good feelings to fill the void.

Kike-worshipers never change.

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Oh, are you telling me to fix society single-handedly? Yeah, I'll get right on that!

And reported for intl.

Just leave, kike.

Ehh, Japan is pozzed. They're keeping their race together okay, but their birthrate is abysmal and they've been economically colonized by the kikes using their proxy in the US Federal Reserve. The grass-eater phenomenon and their no-kiss virgin 30 year old women on the other side of the coin is slowly killing their race. But, they do have more racial integrity than almost any non-Slavic white nation.

Roast in hell, you stupid fucking faggot.

Nice try, moishe.

I would doubt that even. Many of these "white" Christians are spics or mongrels of some sort, if you are talking about the USA. You cannot take racial stats from USA seriously because they count latrinos, quadroons, and arabs as white.

Christianity's strength as a meme is that it is possible to completely ignore all of its tenets as long as the vague central figure is kept. This gives it a great deal of flexibility, but the branch proposed would most likely have it's philosophy completely ignored.

Not for years now, kiddo. Keep up.

Oh, so are you pushing the whole "Women are bad because men aren't leading them" bullshit? Because, the way men punish women out of control is through shunning, ostracization and exile, but too many thirsty betas prevent us from effectively doing that these days and we can't kill thirsty men or slutty women because society stays our hand.

This actually is not a problem at all. Birth rate is a red herring. Without immigration, population stasis or contraction is not a problem at all.

Look, you fucking dipshit, just give up. You’re too inept to read English, much less comprehend how cucked you are ideologically.

Because no matter what you're still worshiping a Jew.

And reported.

Theoretically I see your point. In my opinion, the reason the Japs have are so far below replacement rate has more to do with being ass-fucked by kike bankers backed by the ongoing US military occupation of Japan than their actual economic potential. They have two lost decades beneath their belt at this point. And women don't commit to men who can't provide for them and their theoretical children economically. Who can blame them? The Jew is waging economic war against every race that could potentially threaten their dominion, and that strikes me as comprising whites and the Japanese first and foremost.

On the contrary, we need to divide Christians from whites. Because Christianity is a treasonous Jewish religion, they are sabotaging us from the inside. It is not d&c, it is cutting dead weight. Killing Christians will only make the white race stronger, especially since Christians tend to be obese low IQ genetic trash.

Why am I supposed to believe your "historical facts" when you have such little understanding of the content and history of scripture?

these peoples christianity is irrelevant. if they werent christians they would be liberals doing the same shit.

Wrong. Racial stats are self-reported. I personally know many beaners, hapas, and weird melungeons that identify as "white" simply because the racial consciousness has been diluted so much. A lot of people today seem to think that "white" just means "not black," so I have seen even east Asians call themselves white.

No, that's because Europe was European. Europeans never needed Christianity to be great, look at Greece and Rome.

You cannot be this fucking stupid. I'm just gonna say you're a shill and not the try-hard 4cuck faggot you probably are.

Read the rest of the post.

Regardless if it was needed or not. I played a large part and is dominant today in Western culture. It needs too be addressed with out autistic atheists screeching about their euphoric high intelligence.

You have no idea how much I miss old Holla Forums because of this thread.

Europe needed Christianity to unite. When the muslims invaded, they were successfully fought off only because Europe rallied around Christ. If Europe went back to their regional pagan religions, it would have been divided and more easily conquered. The same thing applies today. The muslims and jews will only be defeated if Europeans stay together.

Are you kidding me OP? There's over 30,000 different Christian denominations around the world. I'm sure you can find one that fits your… views.

You seem to be appreciating the source of the inspiration more than the actual innate skill of our race.

We were always spiritual/religious, we were always skillful, and we were always virtuous (in the old latin sense). If we were made to believe in one single god by its religion's takeover of the Roman Empire, that didn't suddenly make us any of those things.

I am of the sentiment that Christianity was only meant for jews to stop being poisonous to everyone else and actually save them from being killed when the goyim realised the kind of threat they pose. But instead they subverted it and turned it into a tool to get ahead, they allowed Paul to preach the supposedly jew-hating Christianity from synagogues.

We need a religion where blood takes precedence. No universalism, no humanism, and no semitism.

Europe wasn't exactly united under Christianity either. In-fighting happened plenty of times, Anatolia might still be ours if Constantinople hadn't been sacked in the fourth crusade.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_the_Latins
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sack_of_Constantinople_(1204)

You're also forgetting the same Abrahamic origin of both Islam and Christianity. Without Abraham and Jews we wouldn't have such fucking problems.

RANDOM NUMBER GENERATOR OF THE WEBSERVER GAVE YOU REPEATING DIGITS! MUST BE A CELESTIAL SIGN OF RIGHTEOUSNESS /S

This is what Holla Forums actually believes.

Pick one. The Thirty Years War happened, and the War of the Roses, and the Albigensian Crusade, no unity existed then nor will unity exist in the future due to the predisposition of Abrahamics toward sectarian violence.

Is that why the crusaders sacked Constantinople?

Forget Constantinople - make Thebes white again

Buddy, it ain't Christian white women running off with mudslimes. It's atheists in search of a foundation.

If you actually believe the religion to be true, you don't just make it up as though it were a work of human artifice you fucking retard

Why? Religion should be like architecture or science - subject to revision. Amenable to improvement.

By what metric does Japan not have a brighter future than the west? And before you bring up "muh birth rates", remember that whites in the west are breeding below replacement as well and that infinite growth is a meme designed to justify mass immigration from the third world.

That's a name I haven't heard in a long time.
Would be bumping for interest if imnigger hadn't bumplocked the thread.

daily reminder

Yes, they did

They were niggers

That is enough reason to kill them