CCC rejected talks discussing harassment and abuse

Joseph Adams
Joseph Adams

Sarah Jeong’s recent article, Vulnerabilities and exploits: what happened when the infosec community outed its own sexual predators discusses some positive cultural changes in North America since the outings of serial rapists Jacob Appelbaum and Morgan Marquis-Boire.

This post is not about those positive changes. This post is about people and organisations which haven’t changed, such as the Chaos Computer Club (CCC), who have attempted to save face in public, while privately working to undermine positive change and enable rapists.

In June 2016, I and others spoke up about serial rapist and abuser, Jacob Appelbaum. Unlike other organisations — such as The Tor Project, or The Cult of the Dead Cow — the CCC delayed for more than a month in responding. Eventually, their hand was forced by a parody “@chaosupdales” Twitter account announcing that the CCC had expelled Jake. First, the CCC clarified that they had not expelled Jake. Then, the CCC posted a vague statement that “all are welcome”. Finally, the CCC claimed that their statement had, “of course”, referred to Jake all along. Of course, they only clarified this on Twitter and never updated their statement. In English, this is called “gaslighting”.

There were no Tor talks last year at 33C3, because every Tor talk sumbitted was silently removed by the CCC to “avoid controversy”. Before the congress, the CCC requested a meeting with their selection of representatives from Tor to discuss a way forward. I requested to attend the meeting, and was forbidden from attending by the CCC organisers, who said that the meeting would not occur if I were present. Two other members of the Tor community were expelled for their participation in River’s brutal assault. The CCC continued their pattern of feigning interest in making progress, while privately showing no interest in learning about what had happened from the survivors.

One of those expelled was Will Scott, the second rapist in River’s account, which describes a horrific gang rape while she was intoxicated to the point of being non-responsive. Unlike my coworkers, Will was given a talk at 33C3. (Ironically, on a project I helped design and implement.) This was the CCC’s idea of the way forward.

Survivors of Jacob’s abuse had collectively agreed to give Will a second chance: he said he had been manipulated by Jake into participating in the rape; he did not appear to have committed any similar abuse; he expressed remorse and apologised to River; he claimed to have taken a class on not only recognising, but enacting bystander intervention in sexual harassment.

Here is Will nine months later, in September 2017, standing next to Jake:

blog.patternsinthevoid.net/the-ccc-men-who-hate-women.html

This photo was taken in Cuba at ASCrypto, a self-described school for “graduate students in cryptography” aiming to “build cryptologic research capacity in the region”. Will explained to others within the Tor Project that he hadn’t intended to run into Jake, and that Jake had “followed” him around “harassing him” the whole time.

Will is not a student of cryptography, so it seems pretty implausible that he’d fly all the way to Cuba for a cryptography school with lectures given by Jacob’s advisors and enablers, Dan Bernstein and Tanja Lange, and then be shocked (shocked!) to discover Jacob there. But even if this story were true, standing idly by your fellow rapist is not the action of someone who feels genuine remorse or regret.

This appears to be the same pattern of behaviour as the CCC: in public, do the bare minimum to feign progress; in private, do whatever they think they can get away with.

This year, for 34C3, the CCC rejected talks discussing harassment and abuse, yet they found time to give Will two talks. They shut down conversations on paths towards progress, safety, and inclusivity, but they allow an assembly which proclaims “a code-of-conduct free zone”, warning attendees to “enter at own risk”. It is never enough to just work against abusers. The rot stems from within a larger system, and it is vital to fight, root and branch, against the organisations, structures, and people which enable sexual assault, harassment, and other forms of discrimination. The CCC’s actions have been entirely within bad faith, meant to cause and enable further harm. I do not say this lightly: the CCC hates women.

I don't understand how CCC operates first they authorize bullshits anarcho/sjw talks then they refuse them ?
Obviously the rape allegations are BS (just like Appelbaum (has always with these people)) but why did they let the people who express this insanity years ago at CCC ? or did they just realize the error of letting them attend?

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Gavin Campbell
Gavin Campbell

There's holding panels about social justice, and then there's kicking important speakers out of your convention because some woman made baseless accusations that your speakers are serial rapists but she never went to the cops to handle things properly.

Also do we really need another thread about this?

Hunter Phillips
Hunter Phillips

Less redundant than browser or rust threads.

Brandon Bennett
Brandon Bennett

This is shit, but at least it isn't diarrhea
There is literally a thread in the catalog complaining about CCC being infested with leftists. Use it.

Blake Torres
Blake Torres

jake applebaum had thrown a shit-fit when he found out a cia guy was being considered being brought into the tor team..... weeks later all this crap happens with "anonymous accusers" accusing him of "horrific rape". yeah, sure. not even any police involved or anything, nope. riiiighhht.
if theres one thing this tells us, its that those accused are on the good side and the rest are a cia infiltration team doing their job, and it has worked according to plan.

Andrew Gomez
Andrew Gomez

she never went to the cops to handle things properly

Started to read the rest of the blog: this individual has no faith in the criminal justice system (both its process and its results), and thus would rather play-act their own system of justice than submit to society's ceremonies of justice.
Momentarily, they were broken out of their mental illness and shown why society has these institutions and ceremonies of justice: they were unable to get their system of justice to work, so they resorted to the violence of society.

I don't blame people for faulting her for appealing to mob justice rather than the criminal justice system, when she chose to bring social violence upon others.

Bentley Barnes
Bentley Barnes

This year, for 34C3, the CCC rejected talks discussing harassment and abuse

Good. It seems the only harassment and abuse comes from shrill feminist dykes with their institution destroying agenda. More groups should drop this divisive shit and shun these colossal cunts.

Sebastian Lopez
Sebastian Lopez

rapist enablers
Lets wait 20 or 30 years before outing rapist!
Why didn't I do it earlier? I was traumatized asshole.
I couldn't report it to TMZ until everyone else did!

John Lee
John Lee

People like you is what allowed soyboys and feminist con artists to spread and infect everything. You can stick your finger in your ears but don't act surprised when a project you like implodes because some motherfucker saw an opportunity to worm their in it

Anthony Bell
Anthony Bell

(((Applebaum))) is an SJW literal kike who deserves everything he has coming to him.

Jack Morris
Jack Morris

did they just realize the error of letting them attend?
Organizations aren't a single individual. Maybe their leadership changed and SJWs aren't the majority. I wouldn't bet on it though, it's also possible the SJWs in charge hate the pretend-victim for whatever reason. These people can turn on anyone, even their own.
do we really need another thread about this?
Odds are it killed a browser thread. So, yes.

Caleb Brooks
Caleb Brooks

what's wrong with soyboys???

Brody Mitchell
Brody Mitchell

That they were pushed to be that way so they won't breed.

Cooper Gomez
Cooper Gomez

he cant even code lmao

I think the accusations are fake but im just sitting back laughing at the SJWs eating themselves. good riddance.

Juan Evans
Juan Evans

Whatever. Infosec industry a shit anyway.

Benjamin Diaz
Benjamin Diaz

this is good

CCC is pozzed as fuck

but somehow its not enough for this insane leftoid so they're eating themselves alive. burn it all down.

<pic related: she gave the fucking keynote for a hacker talk and had never even seen a computer. it was just a random fucking immigrant they found to push pro-immigration.

Brayden Watson
Brayden Watson

If you spend your time watching anime, porn, vidya, you spend zero time interacting with girls and developing your social skills, you're not going to breed. The people here are doing this to timeselves. They don't have to be this way because of the endless amount of self-help knowledge that's available on the Internet for free.

Hudson Baker
Hudson Baker

shilling for PUA
Feel free to join a cult.

Liam Bailey
Liam Bailey

streaming.media.ccc.de/34c3

A lot of it is in english,

Jackson Clark
Jackson Clark

Who are you quoting?

Elijah Cruz
Elijah Cruz

not Holla Forums related
CCC that is

Kevin Bell
Kevin Bell

He is not shilling for anything. He's simply noting that living an inhumane lifestyle will lead to an inhumane life. And that most people have the ability to change their lifestyle.

Daniel James
Daniel James

And that most people have the ability to change their lifestyle.
If only this was true. Anyone with real standards about people in general and women in particular will end alone.

Adam Sanchez
Adam Sanchez

Anyone with real standards about people in general and women in particular will end alone
Why don't you check out my true Scotsman? I use him all the time to convince people.

Owen Anderson
Owen Anderson

infiltrate group with kike rapists
expose kike rapists as gambit
use exposed kike rapists as leverage to exert control over target group
It's almost as if smart computer geeks would see right through it.

Mason Morales
Mason Morales

thank you for greentexting everything
it really makes everything easier to read
light green on light blue is more readable than black on light blue