Anti-depressants, yay or nay?

I guess while I'm here, I'll go ahead and ask, but I've been thinking about getting a script for modafinil. Worth it or is it just a meme?

So, is it like a pseudoestrogen or something?

Man the fuck up. It’s all in your head.

Chronic depression here. I was actually considering suicide and I could barely get out of bed by the time I was 21. Despite hating the idea, I finally gave up and got on sertraline, 100mg.

Immediate effects
Long term effects

Basically, it took me from a barely functional, slowly worsening human bean to a somewhat functional and improving human bean. In my case, definitely worth it- I'm pretty sure I'm physically addicted though, which I'm not happy about.

Funnily enough, it was after I started taking the pills that I started noticing more and more (((coincidences))). Probably because I didn't give a shit about much before that.

i can tell you that when it was effective it was very effective, and it does help you to quit smoking as a bonus. i would never recommend it as purely a way to quit smoking though because of the mental effects. as an antidepressant if you arent an unstable mess like me, maybe it'll work out for you, but all i know is it just amplified the shittiness for me when things started to take the slightest turn south.

This.

Anything you recommend for anti-depressant instead or should I just go without?

the only other antidepressant i fucked with was the SSRI citalopram, and i'll tell you right now to stay far the fuck away from that. that's a whole other story that i'd rather never get into again, but to be fair i took it on an uneven basis. maybe on /x/ some time i'll recount that tale.

If you don't want to take SSRI's which I highly would advise against taking, you can try this, it's what I've been doing:

1: Take a therapeutic dose of psilocybin. Don't go into the trip with a goal or expectation in mind. Go into it the same way you'd prepare yourself to go into an attic that you haven't been inside in awhile; it's scarier than it looks, but most of it is just a bunch of harmless junk covered in haze, and a couple mementos may make you burst into treats. The psilocybin interacts with and acts as a replacer to seratonin, allowing your brain to get "jumpstarted" enough to work through whatever problems you're dealing with at the time and become not-depressed again. If you feel like the depression is regressing back to the same level or worse, take a second therapeutic dose no sooner than 6 months from the first.

2: Once your head is cleared, begin exercising at a higher rate IMMEDIATELY. The boost of testosterone from building muscle will help you from regressing in your progress. Lift, faggot.

3: Stop being a faggot and realize it's not about you and neither jew nor nigger cares about if you're depressed or not. You should know by now that the existence of everyone on earth is threatened by the current global subversion by the kikes. It's your duty to fight for truth, justice and RWDS, not be a wimp because you can't get motivated enough to stop blogposting on a Taiwanese silhouette tracing board.

NEVER EVER TAKE ANTIDEPRESSANTS
They destroy your mind, and the withdrawls are hell and only get worse the longer you take em.
it is a fucking scam, they make you worse so they can put you on more shit. Anti-Depressants have no positive effect, and when you ignore their side effects placebos are more effective.
I was on their mill for some time, and they kept changing my AD script because they didn't work, kept upping the dose, and ignored my complaints that I was feeling worse, just kept piling on more shit till I ended up in the hospital with seritonin syndrome, it felt like my brain was on fire, every waking moment was hell untill the cocktail started to fade out of my system.

I was trapped in that hell for 3 years till I turned 18 and I still stuffer the lasting effects of what those drugs did to me. Even several friends, who never had Seratonin syndrome are still suffering the long-term effects of those drugs, years and years after discontinuing them.

Work out user. Fitness will change you life. Just do a little bit every day and you will be amazed at the returns. Works better than any pill.

Nay! Do some exercise and take some shrooms.

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Dont do it user, i recently stopped taking lexapro (i was on it for 4 years) and the withdrawals are terrible, im better now and never going to take that poison again

I feel like we have this exact thread every week.

Psyops? or just Bot training?

Never was depressed or even get sad a whole lot but at the same time never had overwhelming happiness too often. Intense short sessions of lifting and repeated sprints boosted my mood considerably. In the recent 12 months a lot of people have commented why I'm smiling. I don't even consciously know I have a shit-eating grin on my face and I shouldn't because there's usually nothing to be overly happy about.

As for SSRIs I really haven't noticed any improvement in people I know that take them. They absolutely are over-prescribed.

datamining

Holy shit fuck no. Are you retarded or just insanely new? Start working out and eating right if you don't already and find some structure in your life through an activity that you either love doing (fly fishing, hiking, woodcarving, playing an instrument, etc.) or some sort of social obligation like a job or volunteer work. If you're still fucked up after doing all that, try an entheogenic substance.

Also

Yes, they're awful, don't use them.

I took this without a prescription and it solved my lack of energy, which made me productive, which cured my depression because I could finally take control of my life. I stopped because I got a bad batch that made me projectile vomit.

I told my psychiatrist that it worked better than anything he ever gave me, and asked for him to prescribe it because it would be safer than ordering another bad batch. He just made excuses and tried to put me back on another SSRI. Not long after my panic attacks and depression came back and I fucked everything up again.

I should order some more and try again. Bad batches are an acceptable risk.

Needed them to get through a tough time, taking myself off now, use only as a last resort. Don't touch the shit until you're 25.

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Nay. All you need is to do the following for one year:

>Work-out at least 3 days a week

While only four very simple tasks, the above may be overwhelming for the neet/degenerate. You don't have to do everything at once. In fact, I recommend you take small steps. Start by working out, perhaps only 3 days each week. Do this for 2 weeks and you will be feeling pretty good and its well deserved! Then decide on which skill you'd like to learn (remember: it should be marketable). However, if you're already financially stable, maybe work on learning Photoshop so you can make dank maymays, or even learning an instrument is fine). When you're ready, start learning something else. Anything. Just exercise your mind and body.

protips
eat as healthy as your budget allows
dont confuse motivation with discipline. try not to wait around to feel motivated before starting. motivation should be the reward of discipline. Discipline means you do these things even when you dont feel like it.

Op here. Thanks for the replies.

Not a bot or shill. Wanted opinions. Actually quite surprised I got so many thus far.

Will definately not touch SSRIs will refuse them if the doctor doesn't budge.
May as well try some St. John's Wort. Worth a shot at this point anything is.

I have gone on cipralex before (which is Citalopram) but I didn't notice any changes whatsoever and didn't take the full dose I was given.

I still have to go through with the prescription (if I am given one) because my family has a history of depression and they will be making sure I have gotten it but I can easily fool them and not actually take them. However I am likely to because I this fatigue is driving me crazy, I have been exercising but most days the fatigue is just overpowering and I am feeling trapped.

Rest assured I am mulling over all your words.

speaking as one who has been thru long periods of suicidal depression I'll tell you that anti-depressants are a crapshoot. They've helped me by lifting me from the deepest darkest depths where everything is fuxed and it would all be so much easier if I weren't here… And as it goes things pass… anti-depressants don't help me much when the depression is mild, they make me feel different, not quite myself, a little thick and it's irritating.
I went thru 5 or 6 different types before finding one that worked and the side effects from the ones that didn't were not fun.
I would not recommend anti-depressants for fatigue because you are playing russian roulette with your brain chemistry. If you end up taking them for a long time some of the changes in brain chemistry can last for years after you quit taking them.

In most cases, it's the equivalent of treating a broken limb with a band-aid and going back to previous behavior as if eveything is resolved. You're only treating the superficial defect.

Before taking any psychotropic meds, you should live cleanly for at least two months. No drinking, smoking, junk food. Get more exercise, especially cardio. This will resolve most non-major depression in most people.

t. neuroscientist

yea the stop smoking part was weird for me…. it was almost instant… I had no desire to smoke and was an easy pack a day

nice image OP, have a bump

Sounds like you may have sleep apnea user. If so, fuck them kike drugs and get a CPAP machine. Lack of proper sleep does effect you on a whole host of levels, including the psyche.

I've taken them, user, DON'T FUCKING DO IT. I decided to try them four or five years ago, when I was 22, so I could quit my addiction with alcohol (started drinking heavily at 18). I was on Wellbutrin, and another one whose name escapes me. They ended up rocking my world so hard that my plans went out the window, and I started drinking again. This time, the booze was amplified by the antidepressants, and it felt way stronger and more addictive. It was basically super alcoholism. I quit the stupid pills after a year, but it took me three more years to get my drinking under control. Anti-depressants are a COMPLETE SCAM. Most of these drugs are not well understood, not well tested, and they're thrown at people by careless doctors who tell you to "see if it works and if not we'll try another". It's essentially : what's your drug of choice, our sad little cash cow?

Gotta check them trips and that awesome scenery.

Looks like it isnt in the USA, but on the drive to Portland Oregon you get to enjoy sights like that.

Nay, they are soul destroying. I speak from personal experience.

It sounds like your problem is the generic malaise of modernity that affects so many of us here. Work out, spend time outside, stay away from (((media))) as much you can and try to find some purpose in life and you'll almost certainly get much better - but not overnight; there's no magic bullet. Depression is like autism in that it's massively overdiagnosed to push drugs and in most people a lifestyle change is enough to more-or-less return someone to normalcy. I'm an actual, literal diagnosed assburger and fairly certain that I have some sort of depressive disorder but while my social incompetency may not be improving beyond becoming a better liar I've largely come to peace with that and find that clean living and structure helps my mood immensely.

Embed related; everyone ITT should watch this video.

best advice ITT or possibly ever

Yeah, go work out and lift so you can post frogs on the internet. Do you like sniffing your own farts too?

Any way he'd reconsider or would he keep being stubborn?

Also an aspergerfag, I find what he's saying is true. When structure and self-discipline slipped away from my life, I was back to being a frantic, neurotic mess. I'd just dick around here for hours and do nothing worthwhile. Which reminds me, I'm beginning to fall into that pattern again, so I'll go ahead and change that around.

I'm on Trazadone, a very light antidepressant that is meant to help sleep. In my experience, it makes me a bit sleepy and does not affect anything else. I cannot speak to higher intensity antidepressants, but have you looked into seeing if you might have a metabolic issue or something like that?

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Ok

ya'll niggas need to be taking supplements for your diet. I also recommend taking GABA and lithium orotate. I used to be on sertraline once upon a time and it did fuck-all for me. Once I began to address my dietary deficiencies, a lot of my depression symptoms were greatly reduced. I haven't tried everything yet, but I'm working on it.

The red pill isn't sugar coated.

fuck off, nigger

I am on cymbalta 60mg? Something to do with 60.. since i started i am less of a depressed cyncical asshole which is nice for my family and i actually do feel better.
Either way they work for me user

Ignorance is bliss.

I've been doing this for half a year now and it has actually gotten worse. It has gotten worse because the contrast between me and others has increased. When you cease to be a degenerate, it becomes almost unbearable to live amongst this world, and I'm a very lucid, sober person, so it's even harder for me. It's painful because all that I love is constantly being threatened, and perhaps because I regret my past.

Either way, busying myself only helps pass the time faster, but the hintergedanken doesn't go away for long.

I've taken Zoloft and Buproprion at different points in my life.

The Zoloft was mainly for anxiety and was very effective in stopping my panic attacks and greatly lowering my overall anxiety. This was during my mid-20s. I stopped taking it after about 9 months. I haven't had any panic attacks since then.

I took the Buproprion the past couple years for depression. It was helpful at first getting me out of the more severe depression, but it became less and less effective over time. My doctor kept raising the dosage more and more over time, but it just wasn't working. I stopped taking it about 3 months ago and feel a lot better now. FYI, I am 36 years old.

This is a well known side effect of them that affects children but not adults, for the most part.

Dont do it OP you might commit sudoku
read this shit raypeat.com/articles/articles/serotonin-depression-aggression.shtml
derpression needs dopamine not serotonin ffs also read about corticotropin
serotonin is dumb it is the neurohormone that signals satiety (most of it is in the intestines) depression needs activity these pills turn people into zombies
stay away from (((psychiatry))) kikeiatrists themselves an hero more than any other specialty they dont even know what theyre doing
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosenhan_experiment
psychologytoday.com/articles/199707/why-shrinks-have-problems
yes goy listen to this psychotic person (lol Frjewud) its good for you also six million

Sam said no, so no

they don't work. get checked for apnea or sleep problems. also food allergies. go on a depression/adhd diet – that can help

do not go on them user trust me

It's funny hearing the responses from people who have never even taken them before. Your anti-jew meme shit is not a valid argument.

This user is right, though. In my experience, they give temporary relief at best. They can work as a temporary catalyst to help turn your life around. But that's best case scenario. The lifestyle changes are the important part.

Kike psychiatrist diagnosed me with OCD when I was 15 and put me on citlaopram and clomipramine for five years.

When I turned 20 and grew the fuck up I told him to give me a smaller dose so I could withdraw from the meds. He said no, I told him to fuck off.

Enlisted in the Air Force and told them about the OCD, they said no big deal. Got an entry-level separation during basic because during my top security clearance background check they found out the Kike diagnosed me with Autism when I was 20 and didn't even tell me.

Don't trust the fuckers user. I thought my psychiatrist was pretty based (Vietnam Vet, Marine Corps, poltical as fuck) and then he fucked over my life with the stroke of a pen.

No matter what you do in the future, that shit will be on your record for life. Even if you find a legitimately concerned psychiatrist who isn't a pill pusher, you'll still have a record you'll eventually have to defend your reputation with.

My advice, keep doing what you're doing and see a real doctor about the cause of your fatigue. Anti-depressants won't fix that shit.

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Nay. Serotonin is NOT the happy neurochemical, it's the chemical of torpor / sedation. That was its original use.

SSRI's will make you feel worse.

raypeat.com/articles/articles/serotonin-depression-aggression.shtml

Also, don't do pyschotherapy, it's bullshit. You cannot think your way to happiness and motivation. It is a brain chemical problem, it's just that mainstream is wrong about what chemicals are imbalanced and how to fix it.

I bet you have low Testosterone. You should get your T checked. Raising your T will have a beneficial effect on your mood and motivation levels.

If you're desperate, get your hands on some DHT (andractim gel or proviron pills) and try it. Safer than T injections and cannot convert to estrogen but it will let you experience the pyschological benefits of higher T within a matter of days.

Then, once you've experienced the depression fog lifting, you'll realize the problem is chemical and you can research sustainable, long term solutions.

I recommend researching here: raypeatforum.com

Went on them would not recommend. Made my affect flat and everything was meaningless. Best to avoid.

bupro/pol/ack checking in.

I can relate to you on the motivation and nationalism, but it hasn't taken me to the extreme you described.

I say give bupropion a shot OP. It helped me quit smoking, and I went from jerking off multiple times a day, to a few times a week. Don't feel tired all the time and like I'm barely keeping it together anymore either.
The only negative side effect I would say is that empathy drops down to nil. Relating to people becomes more difficult, but if you're already used to faking social interactions, it's easy to catch on and adjust.

It's not all in your head. It is linked to physical health, as well. Not enough sleep/vitamins/exercise etc. can make someone feel very depressed.

NEVER take kike sponsored pills that affect your brain. Instead, eat well, get sun, supplement with vitamin D in cold climates or if you can't get sun, work out, go for walks, meditate, go to church or another low-effort social activity. If these things don't help after about 6 months and you're certain you have severe depression, take mushrooms or DMT by yourself in a safe environment.

Took Valdoxin, and I felt numb. What people say is true, you don't feel bad, but you don't feel good either, and this can make birthdays and such awkward. What was unique to me was that I was unable to get angry for the few weeks I was on it. When I tried, I'd just sort of peter out and felt like giggling. You can feel your mind not doing what you want it to do, and that is very upsetting. Not happy giggling, just empty.

More upsetting are the ongoing effects. It's been years and I still can't get angry properly (rage, disgust and other emotions are distinct and I can feel those) and the numb feeling changed into a 'nothing really matters' feeling on a deep level as said earlier in the thread.

I can't recommend them. Don't try them, fix your life. Make changes, even dramatic ones, if required.

I have a question for everyone one here

I dont mean to /polblog/, but I've had thoughts of suicide since I was 8 years old (I'm 22 right now). There are times that I get close to acting on them, but so far so good. I probably should be on meds, but I am not and going to a psych ward would ruin my career.

I've considered trying DMT to try to hopefully have a epiphany or at least understand my sadness more. Does anyone have any background in obtaining/using DMT? does it show up in piss tests?

Like every other drug, there are people who actually need it and benefit from it, and then there are tons of other people who have it shoved on them for one reason or another. It's in the pharma companies' interest to have us on as many drugs as possible, even when we don't need them.

I would highly recommend against it. I can only speak for myself but while on very mild antidepressants (stratera), my thoughts changed dramatically once I stopped them. I was having some mental stress with my relationship and so it magnified the worst of my thoughts.

Like I'd have dreams where my girlfriend fucks a different dude and I'd wake up with an erection. Other times I'd wake up really early in the morning and demand my girlfriend tell me her worst fantasies. Like seriously fucked up questions under any circumstances.

I know a different dude who was on them had a traumatic experience and then disappeared only to reappear as a transsexual. Stay away from them.

fucking KEK

I used to take Bupropion, but for some reason after about two months on it I developed a massive addiction to interracial porn, which led to me masturbating to black shemale cocks, and now five years later I'm pretty much hooked, and I've been off the shit for 7 months. No clue what to do now. Get off the stuff while you can, user. It's not pretty.

you know whats a great anti-depressant that doesnt fuck up your sexuality?
its called drinking

Severe mental problems can give you all kinds of weird mental blocks, because a lot of things are just too painful to think about. Then when that's lifted, and you're already thinking like an outsider, but now you can analyze everything rationally…

Seems most stories of anti depressants are negative but they helped me out for a good while.

Took fluoxetine for about 8 years since late teens (suicidal from family falling apart), instead of feeling like shit everyday I felt alright, terrible situations wouldn't phase me as much and I didn't become a batshit crazy bitch like every other girl I know. I felt like a mess when I missed some days though.

Since Trump won though I decided to drop my dead end degree, social media, shitty non friends and stop taking the drugs while keeping hope for the future. Doing pretty damn well so far considering I was pretty much addicted to the stuff for almost a decade.

How did you beat the withdrawals? After missing mine for 3 days i get really bad headaches and want to die. Should i just drink through it or any tips?

That shit is weird. I was proscribed it for smoking cessation. When taken orally it made me anxious, like I would have social anxiety that would make me not want to answer the phone when it rang.

It turns out, if you wash the coating off, let it dry, and crush and insufflate it, it's very similar to cocaine.

Best antidepressants are sunlight, warmth of a fire (only bonfire or campfire) and fresh air. There are better options, but you obviously lack them, so use what’s free out there.
Seriously, go inna woods. It is all free. Unless there are active predators, but then again acute fear and/or power over killed animals does miracles with otherwise meek men.
Best woods are coniferous; they smell fine and actually produce chemicals that kill many bacteria and have positive effect on the body. A broth made from spruce and pine leaves was used by Gulag slaves to survive in extreme north and constant hard labor, with no other medicine nor hope whatsoever. Less onerous use is “pine breathing”, when people suffering from lung cancer or tuberculosis are taken innawoods to move and breathe there for hours; that helps their mood and health.

I happen to live in Russia; there are more causes for severe depression here than there are days in a year. Plus 90% of population can’t financially afford to drug themselves, unless on vodka or vidya.
Russia used to be among the least drunk European empires 100 years ago, you can guess how life changed here since judging by current alcohol intake. Check our bydlo to see what it does in the long run, then understand that antidepressants are even worse.
So fuck all unnatural antidepressants. The sun, the fire and the forests were made for you too, use these gifts to full benefit.

Sounds like you need to work on your philosophical grounding then.

I think anti-depressants are kind of a crapshoot. People don't really fully understand why they work, although they do how how they work. If you have a legit chemical deficiency in your brain then they can be a good option, but it's a bit of a gamble as to whether the first ones you try will work or whether you're gonna be having to withdraw of those and try something else, over and over until you find the "right" one.. which may be none of them if your problems are more environmental or behavioral.
Assuming you do try them and assuming you find the right one that works, personally I think they should be used as a stepping stone. Like, you get a chemical change that can boost you out of the slump, but it's on you to actually take that boost and start building a life that will sustain a healthy brain/mind from that point onwards.
Once you've done that for a while you should try and get off them again to see how it goes. If you go back to being depressed despite: exercising right, getting your ass out of bed early in the morning, going through a daily routine, getting enough sleep and eating right.. then chances are you have a chemical imbalance that you need the medication for.

I've known loads of people who've taken them and various meds have made them more suicidal, done nothing for their motivation or general wellbeing, etc.
I have a couple of friends who it worked out for, my favourite example is my highschool best friend who got on them, I didn't even realise he was depressed, but whatever. Anyway they helped him a fair bit, he kept his life moving forward and then got sent to Italy with a team of people from uni for some nerd competition. He forgot his meds and after the first day realised he didn't need them. The change in his environment and all the stimulation of doing something was enough of a natural boost to keep him mentally well. After he got back he never took them again, now years later he's happily married, has a family, fifty fucking kids, etc etc. Success story imo.

You gotta taper your dose. Halve your dose, stay at a half dose for two weeks, halve it again and keep doing that until it's impractical to keep splitting. Hell, go with 3/4 for the first split even, make it as smooth of a transition as possible.
And don't drink ffs, that's a CNS depressant and it literally makes you feel depressed, if your brain is already bouncing around like a pinball from rapidly coming off AD meds then throwing that into the mix is probably making you worse.

lol
Going off what said about it being used to quit smoking, I suspect that drug's primary action is on the dopamine system. Fucking around with dopamine is a great way to develop habits and behavioural addictions like getting "addicted" to black tranny porn. If you're off the shit now but still addicted to the porn it's because your brain has gotten used to the porn to provide a certain reward loop in your brain, just like someone with a shopping addiction or whatever.
You just gotta get gud though, cut that degenerate shit out the hard way. Or take up meth. kek

My mother has severe depression and has been on antidepressants all of my life. She openly talks about killing herself and how she has a plan to do so. When my wife and I announced our pregnancy at dinner, my mom went on a tirade about how the baby now gives her a reason to live. Years ago she lost a bunch of weight and seemed to be in good mental health, but then her meds were switched and she gained it all back and drinks more frequently.
My wife just recently went on them, but does seem to be doing a little better so far, except she has trouble sleeping.
Honestly, I don't recommend taking them. Healthy diet and exercise seem to be the best options to combat depression. I probably have mild depression myself coupled with high anxiety, but I manage pretty well on my own without medications.

fug

was for

Or not. Just fuck my shit up.

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Well anti depressants sure as hell won't help with that

what a shocker

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Drink beer like all men do, you cuck.

Alcohol is natural anti-depressant. When used right, not too strong alcohol can make you being sane and well willed.

Jesus drank with apostles, and said to drink wine and eat bread of remembrance of Him, vikings drank like shit, and were strong as fuck, all your white ancestors drank and never had anything bad from alcohol. Even during ww2 both russians and germans drank before going into fight. Anti-alcohol propaganda is for cucks or for politicians, but if you are average man alcohol is your friend.

nay

They never worked for me.
I want to try Ritalin though.

I had clinical depression since 15, tried different meds.
SSRIs didn't do anything for me, there's a small fraction of people who will feel worse. Me I just felt like nothing phased me but with all negative connotations of that removed.

I then stopped those and started antipsychotics, they helped me. I'm cured, haven't been depressed in 2 years. Hold a steady job, studies went great (grades skyrocketed), live a normal life as much as a channer can.

The way these things work varies from person to person.

Five miles a week.

Some a fucking cigar or even weed if you are that kind of a degenerate, but stop making yourself weak.
Everything that permanently disjoints you from reality, even in the smallest doses goes in the garbage.
If you make/see yourself a victim of your illnesses you will always be victim of them.
If you can't cope with your life, then end it faggot.
Those who want to live let them fight

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If it's an SSRI, Benzie, MAOIs, or Amphetamine, I have taken it since the 2nd Grade.

Right now on Ativan, Prozac, and psych wants to throw me on Adderall. Why they want to throw me on a benzie and amphetamine at the same time, I have no bloody clue.

My fifty-shades of fuckedup are Aspergers, Schizotypal, and Psychoactive traits(never tell your shrink you learn emotions from watching people's face gestures).

The only thing which gave me some semblance of feeling and existence was a combination of Ativan and Oxys. For some reason, it starts a chain reaction is my psyche to get shit rolling, and start doing things. Coming from a guy who has a hard time with any emotion what-so-ever, it feels weird being able to communicate with someone as if you already have an understanding of what their emotions are without having to read them like a book. I can only get to that route through cocktail mixing, and I fear that eventually I'll come across something which will make me OD.

Without that cocktail mixing though, I'm basically trying to make level foundation on cobblestone, it really does suck.

Literally the most jewed thing you can put in your body. I was perscribed antidepressants in elementary and almost 15 years later I badically don't have emotions. Tried a atleast 3 more types of SSRIs and SNRIs also and they were all shit.

Don't use any psychoactive drugs. They will only make you worse. Fight through the pain. You will become a better person after you figure out why you're currently going through this. You will only numb yourself to your pain if you go on these drugs. Also, life is pretty fucking depressing in our world, unless you figure out the super secret of life (do whatever you want, none of this matters)

That nigger is pretty high on the secret of life then.

Sounds like how I feel every day, minus the wanting to die part.

Bupro-bro here, too. Been on it since 18. I'd rather kill myself than go back. All the Holla Forumsacks here honestly SHOULD be advocating it- i finally redpilled after I started using it because I was finally able to start thinking about other things than how shitty my life was. It's helped me stay neutral and helped my analytical skills immensely.

IMPORTANT NOTICE!!!!! Every single pill is like a different key- NO TWO DEPRESSION MEDS ARE THE SAME. Every person is biologically different and their brain is locked in a certain way. There is one key for each lock. It WILL take multiple trips to a specialist to figure out which med and dose is right for you- took 6 different meds to find the right one for me, but it was so freaking worth it.

You need to find a med that has these aspects: does NOT affect sleep or appetite, causes NO physical side effects (nausea, headaches, dizziness), NO mental side effects (deepened depression, malaise, anger, mood swings)
DOES: level out your emotions, neutralizes/weakens mood swings and their severity, generally makes you feel more positive about your mental health.

DO NOT SETTLE FOR A MEDICINE. GET THE ONE THAT WORKS FOR YOU. If my brain chemistry (that was fucked up by YEARS of ADHD meds) found one, you can too, I PROMISE.

Psych meds are liberals in a pill. You stop giving a fuck about much anything. Whatever if the govt is trying to replace white people, no fucks given that you get poorer every year, couldn't care less that Jews will enslave the future generations. You just get numb and stop being intellectually productive. After all getting fat on processed cheap crap, playing video games all day and watching the electric Jew is a much better alternative, so long as the NEETbux permit it. I'm glad I managed to kick off the poison some kike psych tried to force on me after my parents sent me to see one and then the fat fuck kept me for evaluation a week. Got me expelled from my STEM classes though thanks to the brain fog effect of the Jew's tool.

Best way to get rid of your depression is not through pills. It's through eating balanced meals (yes it requires learning how to cook a bit instead of buying that bullshit in the refrigerated aisle), getting rid of as many people who drain you as you can from your life and working out every day. Otherwise you'll just lose 5 years of your life jumping from pill to pill just so Big Pharma and kike doctors can make a profit by playing with your neurotransmitters.

My opinion on them is that you should not take them because they change who you are on a biochemical level and that there are better and healthier ways to get the results you are looking for.

Lack of energy is a hard one to diagnose over the net, could be caused by many things.

A good place to start would be to check your sleep quality like others have said. You could do a sleep study or just record yourself sleeping and listen to see what your breaths sound like.

If you do have apnea and you don't like a cpap you can look into myofunctional therapy. It in addition to a tongue tie release (if you have one) can improve your apnea (if you have it) by 60% according to a study I read out of UCLA.

Now there could of course be other reasons that you have low energy, but falling asleep behind the wheel usually is caused by poor sleep. You say you are eating healthier which is great, but make sure you are getting enough calories. I've worked around the health/fitness scene for a time in my life and the biggest mistake a lot of people made when they were trying to eat well was to not eat enough food, or to eat in too restrictive a fashion (low carb, low fat, whatever).

Since this is over the net you are going to have to figure this out on your own - if I could see you I would be able to help more, maybe. Take some time off the internet and get in touch with your body to try and figure out what is holding you back. Are you having dental issues that are draining your energy? Digestive issues? Sleep issues? Got an infection somewhere? Allergies blocking your nose at night?

Etc.

Nothing I mentioned above is guaranteed to work, I am just trying to help you to be aware of some of the things that might be keeping you down.

But definitely don't take anti-depressants. You should also try doing nofap for 2 weeks, it will give you extra energy to help you solve whatever the real problem is. Any extra energy you can get should be beneficial to you right now, I think you will like the results you get after 2 weeks. I am speaking from experience on this one.

I've had chronic depression for decades and when it was bad I was immobile and suicidal. I've taken lots of drugs for it so I'll give some reviews. Remember that all these drugs are blunt instruments–no one really knows how they work and you can't be sure how you'll respond to any of them until you try it:

SSRI's/SNRI's– Taken many of these. Their efficacy for serious depression is dubious and they have very weird side effects. Other anons have posted about how they can make you feel emotionally numb and uninterested in anything. They are the most common kind of AD and justify a lot of the anti-AD sentiment on Holla Forums.

Welbutrin: It's good reputation on Holla Forums is justified. It didn't fuck up my creative ability or emotions and took the edge of my suicidal despair. Tends to energize rather than stupify, so it's good for anergic depression/dysthemia. In my case it simply wasn't enough.

Parnate/tranylcypromine (MAOI): This was one of the first AD's. I'd describe it as industrial strength Welbutrin. If you depression is killing you it's worth looking into. Downside, and the reason it isn't prescribed much is that it interacts dangerously with tons of other drugs and many types of food.

Anti depressents are bad. Tey fuck with your brain.
OP? Do you sleep? Do you eat well? Do you stay up all niht jacking off? Fix that shit.
Also, try nootropics and eat more eggs. Noopept is amazing.

If depression is seriously affecting your life and nothing else seems to be helping I highly recommend you consider trying a psychadelic such as LSD or psylocibin, now hear me out.

They have been shown to cure depression, as well as aid in the curing of addictions. IF taken in the proper set and setting they WILL make you see life in a new, beautiful way. Perspective is all we have. Our entire lives are based around on how we perceive what is going on around us, and depression is when that perspective is constantly skewed - you perceive the world in only a negative, sad way and it's hard to find rays of light to latch onto when all you see is gloom.

Psychadelics, for a brief and beautiful *or terrifying, research what you need to do to have a good experience beforehand* time, allow you to have the closest thing you'll ever have in this life to a truely perspective. I went into college a depressed trainwreck from an abusive family and years of wanting to kill myself - psychadelics allowed me to see the world from a different perspective and deal with problems I myself didn't know the root of and had repressed.

If you want an option that has been proven to work, I strongly suggest you consider psychadelics. If you do your research you'll find they are largely harmless unless you take far too much or have a family history of schizophrenia, please look into them for your own sake.

Antidepressants alter your brain chemicals in many different ways. You most likely will never be the same afterwards. I had to deal with depression while young and still do. My best advice is to learn something new everyday and get /fit/.

I've found Stoic philosophy helpful. It was essentially how ancient Greeks and Romans consoled themselves and prepared for adversities. William Irvine's A Guide To Good Life is a good introduction book.

ya fuck the pharma jew
(((their pills))) will ONLY make your life worse than it is now. and thats the goal, so you keep going to (((them))) and then increase your dose and make more money.
they get a cut of the profit every time they prescribe something to you.
the anti depressants are the most easily justified pill to prescribe because "goy, antidepressants are used to treat a number of problems not just depression" having trouble sleeping? here take a low dose of anti depressants. strange eating habits? large dose of anti depressants would be god for that goy.

anti-depressants is where the (((money))) is
thats why when you're in (((their))) offices you will see coffee mugs, business card holders, pens, and pamphlets all with the name and logo of a anti depressant on them.
its usually the one they are "sponsored" by.
they get a larger percentage when they prescribe it.

In regard to what this user said they do have the potential to make things worse, but that is highly unlikely - albeit impossible if you DO YOUR RESEARCH and do them in the *proper* set and setting.

If you look into the history of their use and the effects that they've had you'll find they were heavily used by psychologists in the 40's-50's , have the highest rate of causing alcoholics to no longer being alcoholics ever performed, (Fun Fact: One of the original steps in the 12-step program was to do psychedelics), and over 1/3 of terminal patients who were given psychedelics reported a better outlook on life after.

Once again, these things cause you to perceive everything in a different way, and while not something to be taken likely, they should definitely be considered.

Try reading The Doors of Perception by Aldous Huxley if you'd like a brief summary of how an individual reacts to them, and what he perceives during the experience - now i believe this was with mescaline, but psychedelics generally induce similar states, so it should give you a decent idea o what to expect.

On psychedelics, A walk in the park on a sunny day, listening to your favorite album, or looking at a beautiful painting may be all you need to see the beauty in life and tear down the veil that's been holding you back

SSRI's don't work

I take a MAOI Nardil for anxiety and it work really well, but for what you're describing you want modafinil

Honestly eating more eggs would help too.

This. I always carry a copy of Meditations with me.

Philosophy kept me from suicide more times then I can count.

Everyday
anything less and you pretty much deserve to be suicidally depressed

Don't,you will melt your fucking brain with that shit.I suggest working out getting in shape and adjust your diet.If you still have anxiety after that use cannabis moderately.You go seriously fucking up your brain chemistry with anti depressants you will end up doing irreparable damage and end up a basket case.

Definitely nay.
I was on them for a year, and I'd take the void of despair above being utterly emotionless 95% of the time.

I was on Zoloft, an SSRI, for about five months.

First, they do work. For me, I had a voice on my (metaphorical) head that would convince me I was worthless and that I was a piece of shit. On Zoloft, that voice went away. I was able to feel good about my accomplishments.

However, it began to feel unnatural after a while. Negativity didn't "stick" to me like it used to. Some thing that used to cause me to live the rest of the day in a depressed shame, would make me feel bad for a little while then slide off me.

I didn't like it. I started to lose motivation because I wouldn't feel bad about failures. I wanted myself off before I could even consult my doctor.

Also, SSRIs make cumming really difficult. You should still be able to get hard, but cumming could take hours to happen.

What really got me out of my depression at the end of the day was the therapy. I was crushing myself, and therapy helped to show me that it was okay for me to be me. The meds probably helped put me in a mindset that made accepting that revolation possible, but they are NOT a long term solution.

Hope that helps, user. Make a plan; identify how you feel, why you think you should feel that way, and start talking steps toward a healthier mindset. Meds can help you get there, but they're no replacement for a positive outlook on life.

You can make it, user. You matter, and despite whatever is plaguing you, you can make a positive difference. Good luck.

Confirmed for jewish population control.

I've smoked DMT once, and it is definitely a positive life-changing experience. It's what allowed me to return to believing in God after years of atheism and nihilism. Doesn't show up on drug test (they won't even bother testing for it) as far as I know.
Unlike most other drugs, you won't have any desire to try it again. It's been like 5 years since my experience, and I might try it again, but I'm not actively seeking it out.
It's kinda like how Hunter S. Thompson described LSD, "You don't find 'it', it finds you."

Fuck no. Lift instead.

WHELP

Happened to me with Cymbalta (SNRI). It took about a month after starting before I could finish.

If it is between killing yourself and not, maybe give them a try. I did for about 6 months but it was also for other shit as well. I don't take them anymore, I gutted the shitty part of my life and moved. Just taking anti-depressants isn't going to make the world great, it just sort of mutes everything, even the good stuff. I highly suggest you fix what is causing you to feel this way. Whether you do it after starting an anti-depressant or not, something is telling you that you have problems you need to fix. Look for those and take care of them.

Did ayuhuasca a few times some years ago. Wew! Strong stuff. Met spirit wolves and dragons. Taught me meaning of life. Shit myself one of the times. Well worth it, but prob won't do a sequel.

I'm ex British Army (9 years service) and I've experienced some horrible stuff.
I was in bomb disposal - Royal Engineers. I have total dedication to my Queen and my country.

My experiences had an effect on my mind. I was in a military psychiatric hospital for 2 months and was given loads of meds:
Seroxat (prozac)
Melleril (a sedative)
Trazadone - fuck knows, but it turned me into a zombie.
and some sleeping pills that I can't remember the name of.

These 'medications' did not work for me. Maybe they can work for some people; I don't know.
The organisations that helped me and continue to help me are:
SSAFA (soldiers sailors and airmens family association), Combat Stress, and the Royal British Legion.

Their websites:
ssafa.org.uk/
combatstress.org.uk/veterans
britishlegion.org.uk/

If you are ex British military and are suffering, then they will help. DO NOT BE FOBBED OFF BY YOUR G.P. GIVING YOU A PRESCRIPTION FOR PILLS.

I used psychiatric drugs for about a year. Felt like utter shit and took me about 2-3 years too recover from using it.

This might seem like some bullshit tier advice but I really helped me a lot when I accepted it.

Depression is pain, pain is a sign that something is wrong just like when you put your hand on the stove and it burns you. If you want too stop feeling the pain, take your hand off the stove. Hope it translates

This. I've never been seriously depressed, but I took psilocybin out curiosity (which I had had for a long time), and it made he have a much more positive view on life, as well as broke me out of some OCD tendencies.

Definitely give it a try, OP.

How do I find this stuff? I live in HappyVille Collegetown Utah.

They should be giving out testosterone shots and adrenaline. High energy and activity would sort out most depressed people, as they are depressed because of that low energy and lack of activity.

Tl:dr
If you don't need them, don't fucking take them.
Pharmajew can be fun but will get you hooked quick if retard. Avoid PharmaJew

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Sage for 4tier thread

I've never taken meds for my own depression. I've heard some truly horrific stories, too many to entrust myself to the pharmajew. Not to mention that the thought of having to drug myself dumb to be able to function always seemed worse than depression.

The ONLY thing that helped so far is going to church. Forget for a second about having to believe in the magical Jew who walked on water, the meat of it is that the deeper you believe your actions matter and you have a purpose, the more all seems to fit together. It doesn't work 100% of the time but it's still anyone's best bet.

Nihilism kills, user. How you feel is intertwined to how you see the world. Change the latter and the former will follow, nobody can truly enjoy living in a completely material, mechanical world that happened by accident and will eventually disappear without a trace.

Depression is a symptom, youre just masking symptoms of greater problems in your life

Anyone have experience with Levomepromazine? It's a neuroleptic but I got it for occasional use as a tranquilizer. I only take it when I have rage fits.

You mean "paid by pharmaceutical companies to shill particular products and refuse to prescribe competing products"?

You imply that your Canadian with your question regarding gun license, have you taken blood tests to see if you have Vitamin D deficiency?
As a Swede that lives in a similar climate (along with being somewhat of a shutin) I found out that it was one of my issues after going to a doctor. That alone has helped me a lot when it comes to simply feeling more energetic.

I can't really recommend SSRI based antidepressants as many people have pointed out. They killed my libido and dulled my feelings, and not in a good way. I still felt like shit. I quit after maybe ~4-5 months and decided my depression was caused by shit I had to work out myself rather than take drugs for.

Try daily doses of vitamin D, maybe go take a test first. I take it in the 4-5k IE range (whatever IE means).

Mushrooms can and have gone very bad for me. Be careful, especially if your thoughts naturally drift to depressing Holla Forums stuff. general depression maybe it might work. Tips on how to prevent this welcome.

I was depressed for the last 6 months or so until I started doing research and discovered L-Tryptophan. It's the precursor to both melatonin and serotonin in the brain.

After taking 500mg pills 3 times per day I feel SO MUCH BETTER, it's insane. Not only do I sleep better at night, but I'm no longer depressed. I don't feel like everything sucks, and I once again have motivation to do what I want to do in life. It really is amazing. You can get it at any local health foods store / some grocery stores.

I've read all over the place that L-Tryptophan is used by a lot of people instead of pharmaceuticals for depression, so I'd highly recommend you try that before you permanently alter your brain chemistry with SSRIs.

Checked for Vit D, I take 10000 iu atm and it does have a postivie effect i think.

Here's my take on this
Purge pharma/gas snakeoilsalesmen

I recommend the forest. Leave your technology at home, go camping for a couple days.

This. I was prescribed citalopram and it made me really fucking weird. I had motivation, even asked out a girl. I totally lost any critical thinking ability though which made me awkward. Being this awkward made me lose the girl which made me depressed, so I dropped the antidepressants which fixed my issue but not completely. I was still depressed for months after that.

pick one.

vitamin d

sounds like you already made up your mind to take the pharmaceutical jew. I would suggest proper nutrition, exercise and maybe osme weed if you really cant handle reality

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i have anxiety , but dr tried puttin me me on ssris twice wasnt good paxil made me very aggiatated ,depressed feeling like i wanted to cry
likei said i have anxiety not depression i took it for 8 days it wasnt for me at all wouildnt to beat anyones ass i saw
dr then gave me zoloft 1st day felt jittery as hell ,im fine with the ativan i take half a pill atta time 80% its all i need for the the day like i said anxiety here not depression but id stay away from the ssris as soon as you dont feel right ,they want you to be on em for atleast 3 weeks ….so they do there chem lobatamy

Note: I wasn't even depressed. My doctor prescribed me an antidepressant for anxiety.

but for lack of motivation and being tired it was a lack of vita D ,i was thinking low T blood tests said T was fine D was way low

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I'm the same way. I have bad anxiety that cost me a job once. Doctor gave me Serequel. Made me emotionally dead inside and felt no urge to go out and do anything. I immediately stopped it and flushed them down the toilet. I'm still trying to find a way to cope with my anxiety attacks, but so far I'm doing okay with just being me. I just cant be around a lot of people for very long or else I start getting intense migraines and the urge to faint. I'm also prone to panic attacks.

Whenever I try this I remember that I am almost 24 and think about how I could've started like 5 years ago and be at a great level now and this becomes an endless spiral of self-loathing which results in me doing nothing further facilitating that loop.
I am also thinking about how your brain stops developing when you hit 25 so I have basically no time left to learn anything I want, even though I want to learn to draw and code.
The only useful skill I have is English (I am Russian myself) and that's pretty much it.

Your doctors are idiots. Seroquel is an anti-psychotic and SSRIs are really bad for people with anxiety.

You should have been given a beta-blocker like propranolol.

That doesn't apply to learning. Besides, that age where accelerated learning stops is actually like 7.

I also lack any social contants now and that really hurts me because going out even once a week somewhere outside of studies/job really helps me boost my mood and mental activity for the whole week but when my ex cheated on me and dumped me 2 years ago it all pretty much stopped and I almost have no contancts to start new relationships/frindships and since I am 24 in like 10 days it's getting almost impossible to start from scratch at that age.

Uh, no. That's not in any way true at all. There's isn't a magic learning off switch that happens on your 25th birthday. Your brain is like any organ and will atrophy if you don't use it.

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They're over prescribed as fuck, but they do wonders for the people who are really sick i.e. on a one way street to blowing a shotgun. The ideal situation is that the SSRIs can get you to a good enough place for therapy to be effective.

Kys weakling, just join some club and yu win

Anti depressants will emotionally and intellectually castrate you and tie you with a chemical leash to big pharma.

You aren't depressed because you have a magic brain disease. You're depressed because you're lonely and frusterated. Drugs won't make people love you and appreciate you, nor will they make your life's plans work out.

Bruh, don't even think about age when learning something new. If you're legitimately interested in learning something, it will grow as you go. For example, math wasn't my strong suit in high school, but I was really interested in learning ham radio. So after reading a lot of books on electronic theory, I passed my Technician's test and got my license. Now Ohms law is second nature to me and a part of my life philosophy. So find something that legitimately interests you and stick with it for about year or two.

yes sir they try putting that for both i argued with mine twice and never said i had any depression at all
they want kick backs

i dunno about that they are a game changer but for me it wasnt for the better by no means

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also coming off them are worse thats when i got depression after 8 days on paxil
dont wanna know what thoughts i was having in my head there bad very bad

Are you actually depressed or simply experiencing extreme fatigue?
My brother had that issue (fatigue) and was prescribed some kind of pep pill used in the airforce that simply removes the feeling of sleepiness (with apparently no side effects). Can't remember the name though.

PREACH

The reason you're so low-energy is because of your shit diet, lack of exposure to the sun (vit D), and lack of exercise (hormones + endorphins). Stop jacking off btw.

>>>/fit/
or if that /fit/ is dead, try 4/fit/ @ www.4chan.org/fit/catalog

Never EVER even 'think' of touching psychoactive drugs like that

^ This.

Last year I asked my regular doctor for some sleep aid as I've always had insomnia, and they pushed the "anxiety" diagnosis onto me (even though I doubt people into extreme sports are the nervous types) and onto my record, so now my lifelong dream of joining the military is fucked unless I can get them to remove it.

It will be on your record, and if you ever want to join the military/other fields that require extensive background checks, or even want to get a gun, you will be fucked.

Sorry OP I replied before reading the thread.

This is what my brother is taking and he swears by it.

I used to have major depression and crippling social anxiety until I got prescribed to 300mg wellbutrin XL, suboxone (former addict), hydroxyzine 100mg(which is a great sedative like antihistamine) and finally zyprea 15mg(I only take half tho) at night.

I have a few complaints, such as feeling very tired in the morning, but when i pop my wellbutrin in the morning it does wonders. I just got a job at UPS and I'm stoked. I still need to work out and eat healthier foods but tbh I'm taking it slow due to in the past of being overwhelmed and running back to heroin. With that said tho, life is good now. I have hope and can talk to people without anxiously giving them tmi, etc.

Pills aren't anyone tho and I'd say honestly try what other anons here have suggested first. Eat good, work out, etc. My main problem was even when I did all those things I still had conflicts with normies due to my anxiety and paranoia.

they prescribe wellbutrin for everything from stop smoking to pain thats a bs pharma from hell

OK that's not true. A doctor's diagnosis doesn't prevent you from buying a gun. That requires a court of law declaring you mentally unfit.

So damn much disinfo in this thread. I feel like I'm on Holla Forums.

none of us eat "heathey" as we should a good vita supp always helps

I just asked a doctor to remove my history of migraines, so that I could join.

Since she was in the Air Force, she did so gladly.

This. Was diagnosed with Autism spectrum, depression, and anxiety. I own 4 rifles and a pistol, all of which I bought in person with my own money.

if niggers can own guns,
so you should also

Same here. Diagnosed STPD, on meds, and have a nice scoped hunting rifle and 2 handguns. Of course, this is America. I can't speak for anyone in some other shithole.

Like I said, everybody is different. It works for me.

sorry bro but i think its a placebo ,but if it works for you im happy

All I can give you is my personal experiences, experimentations and findings. I used to be pretty depressed. Never suicidal but depressed. I went through (((therapy))) and (((psychiatry))) but had enough of both. I never went on SSRIs or anti-psychotics which my (((psychiatrist))) really wish I did. I decided to take my sanity into my own hands and I've had good results.

tl;dr version: I became physically active, stopped eating shitty foods, got better sleep, recognized my over-use of caffeine as a contributor to my problems, and addressed deficiencies in my diet.

Instead of playing with kike pills that mess with your dopamine and serotonin receptors, I started eating good foods that protected them like foods high in healthy fats, omega 3s, and started eating protein powder before I became /fit/. Immediately I noticed a difference and started getting better sleep which gave me better benefits. I learned the true dangers of caffeine wasn't that it was inherently dangerous but that it can be detrimental from overuse. Particularly that caffeine causes your body to spend more of its neurotransmitters such as dopamine and serotonin and even more importantly, your body's magnesium supply. Magnesium is involved with over 300 bodily reactions making it one of your most if not the most important part of your nutrition. I started taking magnesium and experienced more mood gains. I started getting out in the sun more and took d3 when I couldn't and noticed even more gains and physical energy.

On a related note, I think the over-reliance on caffeine and overconsumption of fructose, especially high fructose corn syrup is one of the greatest contributors to depression in first world countries. Caffeine usage comes at a cost and most people remember their first experiences with it being euphoric and like with most drugs they're trying to chase that same first experience. People need to think of their neurotransmitters and other bodily resources as currency and spend it more wisely.

i dont mean a suger cap placebo theres chems in it

same-e helped me get off the paxil withdrawls with some kratom

Nah, though I do think that SSRIs are chem placebos that make you worse. For years I vowed I would never take an antidepressant due to lots of bad side effects but after doing ample research bout wellbutrin I decided to give it a shot. Trust me, I used to do lots of illicit drugs and know what buzzes me and those that don't do shit.

Weirdest thing tho, I still smoke cigarettes. I don't fiend after them like I used to tho. Really want to quit, however. Old habits die hard.

check into sam-e op if your ameritrump you can buy atta vita shop good for depression

unchecked double dubs??
This ^

Since antidepressants have been covered pretty thoroughly I just wanted to state for the record:
ECT/electroshock is shit. Whatever benefits you see (if you even get anything besides a few day's manic episode) will be gone in months to, at most, a couple years. I know people who've had 20-30+ sessions and they're still depressed as shit. Not worth it. Even if you're on the verge of anheroing and looking desperately for help, this isn't it.

TMS (trans-cranial magnetic stimulation) is a scam. Only something like 15% of patients report "improvements" (no doubt very broadly defined) and they generally don't persist

That's all I've had close experience with, plus of course many pills in various combinations antidepressants + antipsychotics + mood stabilizers at one point. I echo other user's views on the pharmaceutical Jew.

Out of curiosity, has anybody tried ketamine therapy for depression?

cigs are a bitch i stopped for 2 yrs started back afeter the anxiety started kicking hard,it helps a lil you know

OP took lexapro for a few month a while back. Did nothing so stopped. Didn't want to be on meds.

Can anyone on Holla Forums give me their thoughts on benzos and my situation?

Clearly my fear lies in me thinking I am shit socially (because I was) so the idea is to take a longer lasting benzo like klonopin, spend x number of months on it, live life anxiety free, improve social skills, gain confidence in myself and get a qt girlfriend. Realise there's nothing to fear through experience then come off it. Never wanted to to take medications for this especially a benzo considering the dangers but I feel like this is a situation where it would be effective as I am using it as a tool with a set goal (compared to where a lot people who are prescribed it just stop anxiety without further thought) or am I just fooling myself here? Will I just somehow get a life destroying addiction no matter what?

Nonetheless, be careful what you tell your doctor lest you end up getting put on an involutary psychiatric. At least in Commiefornia this will prevent you from buying guns for a few years (3?).

(polite sage for dbl post)

Look up Jordan Peterson, do his program.
selfauthoring.com/self-authoring-suite.html

You want to build up your ability to deal with problems, not pad your environment or drug yourself out of existence to avoid them.

im 40 i used to take 4-6 xanax bars a day in my late teens and early 20s for yrs stopped cold i moved to another state i wasnt gonna pay the high price,on them ,now skip ahead almost 20 yrs later i need em for anxiety i dont take an 1/10 of what i did, i never had bad withdrawls or any 20 yrs ago

This is going to be a strange story but I guess tldr; they are fine, but work towards what people are saying – exercise, eat healthy, and then it wont be long term and will get you through a rough patch

Anyway, I had kind of a fucked up child hood. I grew up in one of those fringe christian communities where they practiced "deliverance ministry" (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deliverance_ministry) where basically everyone got the demons drove out of them. I went through some insane shit that I still can't explain today and it fucked me up. Throughout my later teen years, I was still afraid of being alone in the dark since and was embarrassed since people my age shouldn't be like that. Thankfully I was able to go away to college, but even there I still had the problem. I went to a doctor for depression and when I went on them, after a week or so, the depression was manageable. What I was not expecting, though, was the fear of the dark alone went away completely. It was a fucking godsend and I was able to get some of the best sleep ever.

I stayed on them until my 20s and then weened off again since I really had nothing to be depressed about. The fear came back and it blind sided me since I hadn't felt it in years. I went back on and it went away again. I just stayed on a low dose for a long time. In my 30s, I tried again to go off them and I'm actually fine. I think since I've gotten older I've become a lot more jaded and the fear of demons torturing me just doesn't pack the punch it used to.

My recommendation is to go on a low dose, follow the steps people have advised here (exercise, healthy eating). Make sure you get sunlight if you can (season effective disorder is actually a thing) too. Just be prepared to have one hell of a time having an orgasm. However, if you have a gf or screw around, the ladies will love your stamina.

My drug of choice was lexapro, which is generic so it doesn't cost a lot to try it.

i used to get xanax bars for 1.50 a piece id buy usually 200 at once

youtube.com/watch?v=QPxofHfffS8

true again vita d they had me on 50000 iu of vita d for 4 weeks once a week dose

deffinatley gotta get your blood tested,could have a high red cell count also

At least in the states, you can get xanax extended release as a generic. I recommend going on a low dose of that since an acute dose of xanax will make you tired as fuck. Keep in mind the therapeutic range goes from 0.5mg to 3mg – most people who abuse it do upwards of 5mg to 7mg. There is a lethal dose of it, so always be careful. Anyway

Xanax will do shit for the long term problems of social anxiety. While on the XR, you need to work on your brain. The only way to do this is force yourself in situations where you have to socialize or do something stupid. Literally go take a dance class (ballroom, square, etc.). Women eat that shit up and it gets you in forced interaction. The more you interact, the easier it becomes. Do things like saying Hi to people using their name ("Hi Alice!"), ask them about their day, or weekend. Try to make conversation personal, but not creepy. Asking a girl out is always a lot harder, because you have the ever present fear that every ex-fat guy has which is rejection. The biggest thing to get over it is realize that almost all women have huge body issue problems due to magazines/internet and are always more concerned about themselves than you (unless you're going for a 8+ and you keep yourself kept up like shit).

Try a dating website too if you want a relationship – they are awesome and take away the awkwardness of the initial "wanna go out?" and you can instead just focus on having fun.

Just keep at it and you'll succeed – never give in to failure or self doubt.

NO NO NO! user! NO! DON'T DO IT!

THOSE ARE BLUE PILLS!

YOU'LL BE CUCKED FOR LIFE!

Pharmfag here. Benzo withdrawal is one of the only ones that can actually kill you dead, and Xanax is the worst one in the class. It has a short half-life so it rollercoasters you and leads to rapid and exaggerated tolerance/dependence. Most self-respecting doctors avoid prescribing it, and when they do, it's short term only.

Total SSRI success rate is about 30%, and that's using the jew's own metrics for success.

My advice: stop worrying so much about "muh social skills" because the people you're trying to impress are probably all bluepilled cucks and their opinions are not worth crying about. Exercise and eat well like other anons say and you'll be fine.

id rather be onna benzo than a ssri for anxiety

Those two points were unrelated, but I don't necessarily disagree with you. Still, benzos are bad news. Klonipin is better, and CBTing yourself out of it is better still

Thanks dude, really helpful post.

Which is why I was looking at klonopin. I assume it would be better than xanax?

klonipin is a
benzo

as the shabbos goy is better than the jew

forgot "than xanax"

I'm not surprised. Same-e helps with the body's natural process of creating glutathione, the antioxidant produced by the liver. The only legit body detox programs are the ones that facilitate the body's natural ability to do so.

Just some misc info:

Klonoplin and xanax are trade names - not the actual name of the drug - get the generic which will have a name like alprazolam in the case of xanax since you will save a shit load of money.

Both drugs are benozos, so there isn't really a better or worse. Xanax is more popular since the trade name is more known (like viagra).

Absolutely never mix them with alcohol ot else you risk some serious side effects (death if you're on a tripping level dose)

If you're gunna do it, do a low dose of xanax and if you stay 1mg a day or under you can always stop without withdrawal symptoms at that dose.

>Both drugs are , so there isn't really a better or worse
Adderall vs. meth
Codeine vs. heroin
all the testimonies in this thread about SSRI variability

ativan is also a benzo some act faster than others some last longer
i agree whatyour saying to take the lower dose ,we all know the jew pills can sneek up on you faster than than you can imagine ,im sure we all use prescribed meds as drs orders and never over do it due to the side effects

i use a herbal supplement for back pain from an old car wreck

Don't do it, user. Really. I've been there, did that shit for years. Was on SSRIs for about 5 years, plus a slew of other pills on top of it. Yeah, got lucky with a kike psychiatrist pill-pusher, fucker jumped at the chance to prescribe as many pills as possible. Remember psychiatry is tied to the hip to pharmaceuticals, one wouldn't exist without the other. One big racket, nothing more.

Try exercise, eating better, and getting enough sleep. Your doctor may not tell you this, but SSRI's are physically and mentally addicting. If you're on em too long, you'll start feeling withdrawals within one day. I couldn't sleep without them personally. Google exploding head syndrome. Shit ain't fun, OP.

man I wish I were religious, everything would probably feel more fun and magical and meaningful

I was on low SSRI for a while when I doubted the holocaust in class. I'll greentext that if anyone cares.

They made me happier, that's for sure, but they made me work out HARD.

When I started working out I no longer needed them, I found that training was all I needed to be happy.

Opinion: good as a start, but not as a permanent and even then I'm skeptical about them. I have a feeling all they did was make me hungrier, not actually happier but rather I assumed I should be happy and thus was.

Get a ceramic gravity filter urn, with a 0.5 micron candle. Drink fuck loads of cheaply purified goywater (tap water). Detox, stop putting processed shit into your body and restore your vitamins and minerals. If you are cucked by someone, you have to work your way out of that shit and found your own ground to stand on. Get away from pollution and radiation, even if you have to put a bunch of plants in your home to filter the air a bit, do it. Protect yourself from Jewish propaganda by getting back to nature and staying away from 'civilised' places, then from there you can be attuned to reality and easily filter out the mental Jew. Stop stressing about dumb shit like money/food, organise yourself so that you have enough time to prep meals in between daily obligations. Research psychology/neurology, it helps to have a bit of knowledge regarding your mind/ego/unconscious. Stimulate alpha waves and learn to block out neurotic thoughts/thought habits, use Holla Forums as a source of entertainment and nothing more. Most importantly, get out of your own way.

dont even fucking touch them