Time to drop the "alt" in alt right

The media is gonna continue shilling for the 1488 alt right bogeyman. It's a huge opportunity for free advertising. For instance, kids will think it's edgy and cool and have tons of time on their hands to shill for us.

I this another thread where Holla Forums bitches that that we're the hard corest Nazis, but the guys roman saluted are cucks?

Oh right. It was a "false flag." Because Jews like to identify themselves as Jews before false flagging.

Holla Forums is becoming pr faggots because hating TRS and Spencer is more important than being happy about normies becoming Nazis.

checked. your doing it right by coming here first but you got to understand that there is (((guiding hand))) present here. read DS and TRS too! AA is hilarious and now calls himself a Republican. Smart faggots over there on TRS that often mention good books to read.

why wont anyone say 'whats up?' back? screw you guys.

Can I hate TRS and also love that they did this? Personally I think it's great.

I think Paul is a cuck, and he might be on the take of some kike organizations. He spends a shit ton of time traveling to Europe (cost), he invited that jew woman to an NPI event last year, and now he's blaming the 1488 crowd for two jews showing up to the most recent NPI event and pulling this stunt. Something is off with that guy.

Is the TRS forum private now? There was so much shilling against them that I wanna check it out for myself.

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nice

but you are, user.

back to reddit

Holla Forums isn't becoming anything, it's a raid.

I said people here were becoming hipsters last year. We need to correct the decay somehow.

kys fam

FUCK OFF TRS

theres no need to be rude

Fucking retards always know how to derail a thread…

Fuck it I'm out.

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keep posting TRS, I have more

nice gif, faggot.

Is causing confusion within the ranks a major Jewish strategy? Seems like after Trump won, everything that pops up on Holla Forums is both good and bad, right and wrong. Those people saluting is great, but it's also awful. That conference is good, and bad. It's all a Jewish plot, but also isn't.
I actually don't know what to think about it for the first time in years.

yes.
there are legit threads and D&C threads, legit posters and shills. This has always been so, but there's currently a concerted effort to astroturf drama in the non-cucksphere.

whats the problem, then?

sage

I totally agree with you. This feud is fucking stupid.

I don't think it matters what we call ourselves in the end. No matter how often we reject the label, the media is going to associate everything we do with the alt-right. What makes you think they'll abandon that for a new label? I know that no one is going to like this, but after seeing that the media's only real response to the alt-right is calling them Nazis, I don't see what's so bad about embracing the label. Initially I was against it because I thought they were going to make Milo or Gavin out to be the leader of the alt-right so they could water it down and take away whatever momentum it had. But now that they're just calling us what most of us actually are - Nazis - who the fuck cares? None of what we do here matters in the real world unless our beliefs are normalized to the point that normies feel safe identifying themselves with them. The media is helping to do our job for us right now.

Holla Forums fends off most every shilling attempt but TRS/Alt-Right D&C seems to work too damn well. Fuck this feuding and the name/lable autism.

Yep. It's a fucking waste of time.

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That's nice Moishe

I think it's an illusion built up by samefagging shills and easily triggered autists.

0/10

This is why its good to take a break every now and then and not get caught up in gay internet drama. Keep the eye on the prize.

how cucked can you be

“Alternative” means something that isn't something else. What a completely useless word. "Right" is a completely arbitrary direction. You can call yourself whatever obscure label you want. “Alt-right”, Nrxlgtb, tradwhatever, fag, etc.

I am an American nationalist. I fight against anti-American globalists and zionists. It’s that simple.

Wow your title gave me hope. We should just be The Right. Nothing more nothing less. Then you shitposted me into oblivion. But yeah, we're (literally with Trump) The Right, that's all.

We are Right

Well the Dailystormer definitely act like feds. That piece of trash Anglin has fucked up another movement. Once a movement is associated with it's members doing Nazi salutes, it's fucking done. No respectable white American will want to be associated with this.

You faggot can LARP in your echochamber while our leaders fuck our nations even more with mass immigration. Trump is going to appoint Romney as a Secretary of State. Drain the swamp eh? You morons just got conned big time.

So after he doesn't appoint Romney what's the next thing you're going to bitch about?

Mitt "Never has held office in DC" Romney might be a piece of shit, but he's not part of the swamp.

This

I agree. They fucked up. And now old man NeoCon Hannity is calling them Communists, haha. They will never learn

(still the alt-kike was a set up from the beginning)

I'd be alright with accepting the "1488 crowd" label, not the alt-right label though.

I honestly don't give a shit and most of this drama is astroturf. If some relative asked me whether I was alt-right, I wouldn't sperg out about how it's a kike invention and that I'm a true fascist, I'd just explain how americans, most of them young, who are further to the right than the traditional establishment are being pigeonholed into an identity by the left so they can coopt it through agent provacateurs, thus delegitimizing their ideology. Or something.

Your political ideology should be disconnected from your knowledge of history. Of course, this is rarely the case as different political movements rely on different historiographies… But if I'm a "conservative" then maybe I just like center right political theory, but still understand that far right political movements can help to achieve the radical change in governance necessary to expel jewish interests and anti-freedom death cult pedophile baby killers.

The difference is Trump commands media attention while making sure what he says will be twisted and lied about, so when he plays 360D Tetris he already has won. These alt-right faggots just said some vaguely Nazi catchphrases, got shit on, got labeled and got some retard with no charisma to be known as a "leader". And it didn't even work here or on half/pol/ let alone with the MSM, so literally losing 2D chess to a computer set to Easy.

Well, my view is that the 1488 crowd and the alt-right are being made out to be the same thing by the MSM. Normies think of the alt-right as being synonymous with Nazis. Initially I was against the alt-right label because I thought its use would end with us - the 1488ers - being pushed out in favor of Milo, PJW, and the like. But the opposite is happening. We're being given the spotlight, and we should use it to our advantage.

Thing is that it can always be shoved back in that direction.

lol what the fuck Chiam, please tell us all another one. Maybe you could tell us how Paul Ryan really is best for Majority Leader

fuck off with your shilling bullshit. nobody here cares about drama in the alt-right

This is all theater. Most of the people on both sides are just playing a show for us to watch so the psychodrama plays out in our own heads and we resolve to keep sitting around talking about whatever.

spoiler that shit you fucking cunt

Names are pretty stupid if you ask me. There's too many different people with different political and economic ideas who are "woke" on both the JQ and race that any umbrella term really isn't going to work.

If I had to explain what I feel to a normie then it would be an identitarian or ethno-nationalist. Anything beyond that just gets into a round robin of internal fighting.

The MSM is digging their own grave if they keep trying that, though, since a large part of the "alt right" is being anti MSM.

Perhaps we should more formally adopt some rules that are pretty well agreed upon? I'd say 1. No single leader (except, perhaps Trump) 2. Never trust the MSM's opinion

no, it's simple. Trump is the President, Republicans control everything else. We are The Right. Not alt or hard or new or anything. We're The Republican Party.

That's definitely something to be wary of. But, and I remember thinking this was stupid, ever since Richard Spencer started shilling that dumb fucking alt-right logo, he basically branded it as a white nationalist movement. Which, in all honesty, was actually kind of smart. He beat the alt-lite to the punch.

But he also accepts the "alt-lite" element like Cernokike and Milo. We all know that every group that accepts leftist elements will eventually go left.

Just coopt the Republican party, Trump already started that. Seriously, it's the best bet. Trump is only our leader until he betrays us.

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He's talked more about using them to bring people further right, but you're right. I'm not really a Spencer fan, but I'm okay with some of what he's done.

Exactly, these faggots don't even understand subversion. Calling a fellow kike a subversive is the biggest compliment you can give to a Jew. You need to get on the boss's level before you can beat the boss.

Don't you losers ever get tired of being completely wrong all the time?

While this makes a certain degree of sense not sure what we should do about it.

Mannchild pls go.

Best analysis I've seen yet.

Disconnect white supremacy, national socialism, hitlerism from "alt-right."

Dear 1488 retards, you are not 'in the spotlight'. You have pushed the self-destruct button of the alt-right ship, and everybody else is self-ejecting, to the delight of the Jews and the MSM who could not have hoped for such a gift.

The only thing that has been made clear by this ordeal, is that the "Don't punch to the right" clearly must stop at the 1488 line, as you autists cannot help yourselves from engaging in self-sabotaging.

I have trouble believing you are actually white. Aren't sub 70 IQs reserved for dindus ? If you want to help the white race so badly, for the sake of eugenism, please kill yourselves.

Might as well be. The MSM shilled for that the past year when they said trump is a nazi, now they switch tactics to D&C alt right vs gop. seems about right.

The election was rather predictable the past year once we understood the 10d chess, gotta stay alert. Specifically on D&C.

Are you saying to promote people like Cernokike and Watson? Not sure that's the best idea.

To promote the fact that they were/are alt right figureheads.

I've been saying this for more than a year now. Calling yourself the alternative is counterproductive messaging. We shouldn't be calling ourselves fringe, we should be portraying ourselves as the new mainstream.

Hard Right is better than Alt Right. I've also suggested New Right. Just Right is probably the best.

Yep, many people predicted exactly what Trump would do, how the polls would fluctuate during the General Election, etc. It's obvious the DNC are begging the electors to somehow save them, no way a recount happens it's just more fuel for the fire with the ebil Nazos. But this is winning! More tears on the 19th, and then on Inaugaration day, plus maybe when he wishes us Merry Christmas on the 24th.

Don't promote anyone retard, watch Watson if you like him but the leader is Trump right now. We've been with him since that gorgeous ride down the escalator, why be divided over some obvious D&C "who's the right wing racist movement behind Trump"?

We're the GOP now bud, I signed up to vote for Trump in the primaries, don't know about the rest of you. I'd be fine with paleoconservative if I had to chose. When charming and fun, we can be more mainstream than you'd think.

exactly right.

He's part of the Mormon swamp. MASSIVELY corrupt bunch of people.

You are aware that alternative rock was mainstream in the 90s, right?

I asked this in another thread I lost track of, but why did Harry Reid bitchslap Romney in 2011 if Mormons are so close?

Paleocons were the alt-right movement of their day. Shit, you can even overanalyze their name for flaws like is doing. By their own terminology, they are outdated and dinosaur like.

I'm not trying to slur Pat Buchanan and friends, because I do agree. If the republican party were paleocons, I'd be plenty happy.

Again, not sure pushing against other white nationalists is a good thing even when I dislike the altright label.

Read the conversation, you are not addressing the issue we're discussing.

which was just an excuse for labels to brand bands as "alternative" and lead to Creed and other shit music.

I honestly can't tell if you have autism or you're shilling. In any case, fuck off. The NPI conference only scared away cucks like PJW and Cernovich. Who gives a shit?

I'm against any label but I'm fine with paleoconservative being in the Wiki so to speak vs. Neocons or "alt right", it's also an older movement which gives it credence.

That's why I call myself a neo-paleocon.

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When they tried to explain it to me I just say

Mock them for even caring. Make them feel as though they've been rused. Anybody who is actually thinks in terms of labels is basically a subhuman NPC. Labels are ALL propaganda, and anybody who believes propaganda instead of cynically creating/spreading it is a subhuman.

They fucking believe that Trump won because people are OK with nazis now. And that LARPing as nazis publicly will help pushing our ideas.

Gamergate was bound to fall for many other reasons then PR shit, stop spouting this without any other insight on the situation.

how am I not? kill your heroes. kill Buddah on the path to enlightenment. the movement is well underway, watching Watson or 2 Broke Girls or Westworld doesn't make a shit of difference.

Beats me man. Putting self-interest above group-interest seems to be common human nature, doesn't it?

See this is why I told you to read the post chain, start here.

Bannon ain't going anywhere, am I missing the point in the image?

WTF, I love the Hard Right now!!!!

Holla Forums is a National Socialist board, if you are "alt right" then you are not one of us.

Maybe Reid is just an "Elder" and Romney is lower ranking. It's all based on Masonry anyways.

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this is because trump disavowed the alt-right

be honest

If there's a point, it's not to be complacent. Remember who the enemy is. They are conducting a nationwide smear campaign on the MSM to generate false discontent with Bannon, and we have to make sure that all the people we know and the average American knows not to believe the lies and that we do want Bannon in the White House.

White nationalism and nazi fetishism are two different things. You can understand the history of WW2 and know Hitler was duped, but had great ideas, and not sperg out with some concept of reestablishing his reich in a country thousands of miles away with a populace brainwashed for 7 decades to believe that such a reich is the ultimate evil.

Seriously, get the picture? Framing the far right as a bunch of nazis, even though we like nazis, is just there way of bringing to light the fact that perception of far right ideology is still very unsavory to a great number of people. We just need to use the republican party to keep pushing for changes in our direction. The end.

Seriously, the best thing you can do is find your representative, and contact him, and let him know you support Trump and that you have things you'd like to see changed. If we pushed this among all Trump supporters, we'd see action. All this psychodrama false flagging alt right nazi garbage is just about 1) framing Bannon and 2) catching us offguard with the fact that we so openly cherish nazi ideology.

Altright aren't even natsoc fetishists though, I think you're a bit clueless.

They're trying to frame it as such, so it doesn't really matter. The "leader" has this smudge on his record now, and that's all the fuel CNN needs.

I'm not going to actually work against other white nationalists just because the media is lying about them.