So Holla Forums, why haven't (You) become your own ISP yet?
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Creating an Autonomous System for Fun and Profit
Dylan Carter
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Aiden Sullivan
I remember seeing this on front page of Hacker News a while ago.
It was really good post, would recommend for reading.
Ryan Jones
I don't get it. I feel like they left out the step where they actually connected themselves to the internet. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you can't just use a different ISPs wiring to connect into the internet.
Isaac Parker
They're connected to the internet through HE.
Tyler Campbell
Well what do you think the internet is?
James Carter
So what would be the point of doing this compared to just using the ISP directly? It's not like you have any more control over the data since you and all your clients would still be passing through a different ISP.
Additionally how would people even connect to this ISP they built. Would they need to get another subscription from a different ISP so that they could make subscription to them?
Jose Rogers
GO BACK TO /R/SCIENCE YOU FUCKING POSER
Asher Ward
sage denied.
That's why I was asking questions.
Nolan Gomez
there must be a better way
Jaxon Brown
They did not create a consumer level ISP. They just connected their server rack to the internet the hard way. They don't have clients, either. They are just a group of friends having some fun.
Gabriel Fisher
>Have to use backdoored C*sco or chink hardware because nothing else can interface with (((Interconnected Networks))) directly
[b]FUCK OFF, NIGGER[/b]
(((Internet))) and any other IP network is a direct descendant from ARPANET, a shit piece of hacks invented by three jews used by US military. It's not freedom or privacy respecting by defenition. Instead of larping as le ebik ISPs and buying AS permissions from IANA for neetbux, you'd better make a local physical meshnet with cjdns.
Adrian Carter
Imagine being this retarded
Tyler Cook
It's in the plans.
Ethan Sullivan
The master plan?
Tell me about CJDNS, why does he use the ipv6?
Eli Smith
Physically impossible with the size of the US, will get lawyer'd the fuck out of existence the second telecoms get wind of it, and so on. I'd go on but something tells me you're just going to unironically say that everyone who doesn't hold your exact opinions is a kike shill.
Matthew Ross
Ffs stop feeding him.
Once you run your own AS, you don't connect to the internet. You are part of the internet and connect to the rest of the internet. To do so, you can either directly connect to other AS by peering, or send your data through another AS which is called transit.
To peer with other AS, you usually need to have a router at an IX (internet exchange), which is basically a datacenter with a huge network switch which many other AS at that datacenter connect their routers to. Using that switch, you can directly send your packets to your peering partners. If you have your own building nearby, you don't need to put your router in the datacenter, you can also just rent fibers to that datacenter. Peering is usually free because both parties benefit from not having to buy transit.
But peering only allows you to connect to the AS at that one IX. You'd need to have routers all over the world to reach all AS by peering, and to connect all your routers you'd need to rent lots of fibers, which is expensive. That's why you can buy transit. A transit AS gives you a 'default route' where you send all your packets that you can't directly deliver via peering. They'll take care of carrying your packets across the globe. To do so, they operate fiber networks all over the world and connect them to as many IX as possible.
For example, if you are an American ISP and your customers only occasionally access european and asian websites, buying transit is the cheaper option than operating your own global network. If you're Google and have datacenters and fibers everywhere anyway, you won't need transit.
Camden Rogers
When buying transit, you usually only pay for the data you send, not for the data you receive. That's why ISPs can afford to refuse to peer with AS like Netflix which mostly send data and receive almost none, even though chances are they've got their routers at the same IXs. If the data reaches the ISP via transit, the ISP doesn't have to pay for it. The ISP then can use its customers' demand to extort money for peering from Netflix.
Levi Turner
I need the things to do that. I also don't want to pay up the ass by my landlord to Pau the wire. I also don't like stealing other people's money in the name of "profit".
Who knows, maybe I could get everybody in my trailer park to pool in funds to gather the infrastructure and connect it to the NSP.
I probably need about 500-600 meters of PVC pipe, Ethernet and about 25 meters worth of 2ftx8ft rubarb and concrete for going under roads. The tools I need is a entrenching tool and a jackhammer.
That's just to get the trailer park linked, now I need to link it to the NSP which I have not found the location to. After all of that I still need to pay for the NSP and the retarded landlord.
Why havn't you killed yourself.
Justin Barnes
There is about 30-40 working people in the park and I'm sure none of them want to fork the bill.
Caleb Myers
It doesn't even grow that big
Michael Scott
Rebar, Reinforcing Bars. Not sure if I need to weld them together.
Joseph Sullivan
HE?
Jace Jenkins
I don't want mesh network latencies.
Isaiah Parker
HAS
Nicholas Ross
Cisco backdoored? Nah, why would you think that?
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Bentley Wilson
Those people are homeless and retarded. You'd need smart people, who don't do hard things for free. There's nothing wrong with profit, unless Jews are involved.
Ryan Rogers
is a pretty cool guy and doesn't afraid of anything.