MAGA: Make Art Great Again

Jose Reed
Jose Reed

He who controls the past, controls the future
The academics are tearing themselves apart, and people are beginning to doubt their authority.
What better time than now to get as much real history to people as possible?
what is beauty, aesthetic
how values can be cultivated artistically
the study of anatomy and proportion

What parts of history do you think are important to remind people of?

Other urls found in this thread:

vimeo.com/101804860
orthodoxartsjournal.org/

Tyler Russell
Tyler Russell

I'm praying everyday for a renaissance 2.0

Jordan Russell
Jordan Russell

well typically artistic stagnation precedes a rise in the arts, such as the egyptian stagnation before the Greeks.
There's no monopoly on art and history and there's no reason why the current narrative should be trusted
I'm sorry friend you'll have to be a bit less cryptic

Thomas Myers
Thomas Myers

The beauty of art (and beauty in general) is the invisible shining through the visible I.e. the immanence of the transcendental. You have to understand Tradition to make good art which people like Stravinsky, Philip Sherrard and Ananda K Coomaraswamy knew. Stravinsky's Poetics of Music is a must for all artists imo

Anthony Cruz
Anthony Cruz

All is number anons, only after people understand this, art will never be the way it used to be. Check out my favourite painting tho

Asher Johnson
Asher Johnson

Unless* people

Jackson Miller
Jackson Miller

Artfag here. Reminder that if Holla Forums actually wants art to stop being degenerate then Holla Forums needs to start supporting non-degenerate original artwork. The Juden are almost the only people who actually put money into the art market so it's no surprise that the market deals almost exclusively in degenerate art.

TL;DR go buy some non-degenerate original artwork or shut the fuck up about how much you don't like degenerate art.

Bentley Young
Bentley Young

Does anyone even make classical art these days? Teach me user

Michael Cook
Michael Cook

A big part of the series is dedicated to getting people to understand tradition and how our ancestors thought, I like your train of thought

a man can never cross the same river twice, for when he does, it will no longer be the same water, and he will no longer be the same man

I wish there was a more dedicated cultural board here, /his/ is so slow. The strike to the left is an opportunity for our kind, look at fucking Mel Gibson. You think he's not fighting uphill? We're all in this together, Make Art Great Again!
We have to remind them, vid and whole channel related

Blake Bell
Blake Bell

I like you user, I feel like we're on the same wavelenght will definitely check out the series thanks!

"Music is a moral law. It gives soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination, and charm and gaiety to life and to everything"

Cooper Ortiz
Cooper Ortiz

Thanks! The alternative media is on the rise, and every user who's able should do his job to get the best propaganda out

Jacob Cooper
Jacob Cooper

Once upon a time, the church was the great patron of the arts. Even as pagan myths provided scenes and source material. What do we have now?

As a STEMfag, I regret not taking art classes when I had the chance.

Elijah King
Elijah King

Fug off bagan :DD fugger

Jacob Scott
Jacob Scott

Those are some beautiful words.

Cameron Hall
Cameron Hall

New renaissance art fag art here. The pendulum is about to swing back in the beautiful direction

Justin Wood
Justin Wood

Why Beauty Matters
vimeo.com/101804860

This is a really good documentary if any of you are interested. It's made by the BBC before they became pozzed up murderers of truth, and the guy who narrates it shits on some modern artists right to their face. Highly recommend it if you want to learn why art became degenerate, and why we need it to be pure.

Brody Peterson
Brody Peterson

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James Gomez
James Gomez

Woops I meant to post art.

Ayden Perez
Ayden Perez

Art classes at most major universities are useless. Basically you either have to find a decent atelier or go to somewhere like Lyme Academy or The Florence Academy to learn the real thing.

Kevin James
Kevin James

A renaissance isn't something you pray for, it's something you participate in.

The more you faggots wait around for this shit to happen, the less chance of it happening. Don't you realize that we ARE the people who would drive this kind of thing?

Let's start making art and writing novels and doing shit instead of just talking about other people doing it all day long.

Camden Ortiz
Camden Ortiz

I don't aspire to be a professional artist. I would just like to pursue a creative and fulfilling hobby. To feel like I can produce something of value, if only to myself.

Connor Gutierrez
Connor Gutierrez

Be EE student
Want to take art classes
Always fucking full
Eventually just crash one
Show up every day despite not being registered
Teacher is too much of a hippy to bother kicking me out
Eventually forgets I'm not registered
Wonders why I didn't turn in my midterm assignments

Shame it wasn't a particularly good class.

Alexander Edwards
Alexander Edwards

no composition
no strong colors
relies on photo ref for everything

You're just as degenerate as the rest of them, go do some master studies and get yourself good

Carson Reyes
Carson Reyes

You don't need a teacher dude, just set an hour or two every day to pursue something. There's a ton of great resources online, especially youtube.

My parents forced me to take piano lessons when I was a kid and I fucking hated it and didn't learn anything. Now I'm in my early 20s playing keyboard and producing shitty music. Just pick something you like and get into it.

Anthony Johnson
Anthony Johnson

I'm working on it. I've managed to spend a little time drawing every day for the past month or so. It's hard to break the mindset I've had my whole life that 'I'm just not artistic/talented.' I realize it's a matter of practice and work, and I need to stop criticizing myself and just do it.

Chase Gutierrez
Chase Gutierrez

Winston Churchill was a painter, most people don't know him for it because he had a much more important day job

Julian Turner
Julian Turner

Those dubs are a good omen. Keep following that path user.

Alexander Davis
Alexander Davis

Winston Churchill was a painter, most people don't know him for it because he had a much more important day job
Like being a Jewish stooge, a bought and paid for warmonger who didn't write his own most well known speech. Here's another less known fact about him: being a fat drunkard, he regularly shat himself earning him the nickname "Stinkweed" by one Lord Halifax.

Grayson Gray
Grayson Gray

Oh wow, (((308481))) is a faggot.

using references is bad goyim paint from your (((heart))) and pay to learn how to draw
0.5 shekels have been deposited into your account.

Zachary Thompson
Zachary Thompson

Through kek all things are possible.

Chase Taylor
Chase Taylor

I, if not all of us, will be the catalyst. No praying, only creation now. I never post, but lurk everyday; I just wanted to say that you all need to realize that we are more than capable. Do you honestly believe that if we dedicated ourselves to creating and communicating the culture through all of the right channels, that we wouldn't be able to make anime real? The renaissance and cultural reform happens as soon as we apply our boundless passion and autism to creating true beauty and memeing it. Music producers, visual artists, writers, directors, game developers, etc. need to come together in an effort to establish the ideal culture. Conceiving the greatest possible work is all that should be of concern to us and not whether it is possible to realize our vision. No aspect of it is outside our reach. Meme it.

Carter Perez
Carter Perez

Why not show the early kore and kouros statues to show the development from Egyptian to Greek?

Angel Kelly
Angel Kelly

being an art-fag, I recognize that not all art has to be realistic, and that abstract or unconventional art can also be beautiful. I went to a private art collection once that showed the development of cubism, and almost all the art was aesthetically pleasing; until I got to Matisse.
Whereas painters like Picasso abandoned traditional techniques and rules to pursue aesthetic beauty, he abandoned beauty in favor of "shock value". Look at this fucking shit, it's identical to what a middle school art student with a minimal grasp of anatomy and color would paint.
It was all downhill from there. Andy Wrhol and Jackson Pollock weren't even real artists, they were schmucks who got paid by the CIA to combat soviet art movements (which were superior in every way)
tl;dr experimenting is fine as long as it's n pursuit of a pleasurable aesthetic, otherwise you're just fucking around for the hell of it.

Joshua Rivera
Joshua Rivera

The original Renaissance was a degenerate movement that destroyed the painted arts. The realism of the paintings flattened out reality and the movement essentially belongs to Humanism and not religion. Art should be sacred and iconic. If you want to see a real movement look to things like this: orthodoxartsjournal.org/

Daniel Stewart
Daniel Stewart

I watched a video on youtube pretty recently that you might want to look for.

It was some British guy who discovered that traditional art and architecture hadn't been taught for so long that the art schools couldnt' teach it. It's been so long since the classical skills of drawing, painting, draughtsmanship and aesthetic proportions were taught that now even the (((professors))) don't know them. The art schools couldn't go back to teaching real classical art because they didn't have staff with those skills and didn't know where to find them. That's one of the reasons modern architecture is so hideous, the students aren't taught what makes a building aesthetic let alone how to create one themselves.
Anyway, this guy tried to found a new art school of his own based on classical principles to try and bring back some real beauty into the arts. It was pretty late when I watched this but sounds right up your alley.

Also, check out Architecture MMXII, Poundbury and Prince Charles' intervention in the Chelsea Barracks redevelopment.

Juan Perry
Juan Perry

I've been thinking about getting into painting, mostly because of Bob Ross.
The way in which he makes painting look so simple is extremely motivating.
What do you other anons think of his work?

Cooper Perry
Cooper Perry

Come to think of it, despite all the memes about him I don't think I've ever actually seen any of Bob Ross' paintings before.
But what do you mean by "he makes painting look so simple"? Does he do it in a special way or something?

Jeremiah Scott
Jeremiah Scott

I've had many art teachers and only 1 that I really respected. The majority of art professors lack even basic anatomical understanding. If anyone wants a good teacher, jeff watts on youtube is amazing. Picture not related, just something I like. Adam hughes is a modern comic book artist and his aesthetic is top tier.

Henry King
Henry King

Does he do it in a special way or something?
Those paintings I posted were done in less than a half-hour.
The man was like a machine, he apparently did over 30,000 paintings in his life.

Zachary Taylor
Zachary Taylor

Nice digits but you're underestimating the value of the renaissance discovery of perspective in drawing.

Chase Evans
Chase Evans

I think he undermines the meaning of art and I would be concerned with his high-speed painting appeal that new and aspiring artists wouldn't gain the discipline necessary to continue into something great.

Chase Parker
Chase Parker

I'm just hoping for better architecture tbh

what are you fellas' ideas on brutalism?

Liam Cooper
Liam Cooper

This would be valid if his stuff wasn't legitimately pretty.
He spent years training and learning and most importantly, developing his own technique: there's a reason he can pump out these paintings fast. He's that damn good.
Also what is the "meaning of art" that you think he's undermining? He has a genuine joy and love of beauty that you can see from the way he paints and the way he talks about painting– watching this man do his thing, with his unique sense of casual enjoyable productivity, will put you in the right state of mind to enjoy beauty.

The only way your logic works imo is if you don't apply it to him, but apply it to viewers of his show who then think they can pump out a work of beauty in 30 minutes like he does.

Charles Perez
Charles Perez

that shit is everywhere here in bongistan, absolutely disgusting

Ryan Thomas
Ryan Thomas

Seeing stuff like this just disarms me of anxiety.

Chase Baker
Chase Baker

I don't find that particular building so bad, it's a lot more interesting then just cubes everywhere replacing historic buildings.

Nathan Morales
Nathan Morales

It looks and feels dystopian. I'd use it in a videogame or movie, but not real life.

Nathaniel Barnes
Nathaniel Barnes

pretty much. Why in the everloving fuck would you WANT your buildings to inspire soul-crushing depression in people?

Grayson Butler
Grayson Butler

That looks like some kind of prison at least it has windows tho.

Andrew Garcia
Andrew Garcia

Why Beauty Matters (Por que a beleza importa?) Roger Scruton
https:// vimeo.com/128428182
https:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHw4MMEnmpc

Ethan Bennett
Ethan Bennett

It looks like a prison.

Samuel Jackson
Samuel Jackson

And you're underestimating the philosophical importance of the use of inverse perspective in Christian iconography and the meaning of the change of perspective in the Renaissance as well as the shift from abstract symbolism to realism. Hint: its the shift from a relational view of the artwork that promotes community and personhood towards the Humanist conception of the individual and Descartes's Cartesianism.

Even if you aren't a Christian its still against the aims of National Socialism.

Jeremiah Jones
Jeremiah Jones

Even tho I'm shit at drawing the painting it as you go and a blurry oil type paintings always seemed to have more life in them to me. Which is honestly the only way I can draw/paint. I wish I could paint even this well.

Joshua Sanchez
Joshua Sanchez

a relational view of the artwork that promotes community and personhood

How does an inverse perspective necessarily correlate with community and personhood? Are you implying that it is impossible to create a painting that promotes those things with linear perspective? I apologize if I'm misunderstanding your post. It would be helpful if you actually type out your thoughts and ideas instead of giving us 'hints' like you are a wise old grandmaster and we are your foolish pupils.

Parker Gonzalez
Parker Gonzalez

hints
Fair enough, I'm being a dick.

Inverse perspective, personhood and community
Inverse perspective gives the impression of figures within the artwork looking out at the observer. Especially in the context of Byzantine iconography this is used to create a relation between the person depicted and the observer. Personhood is relational because it is inherently communal - personhood emerges out of a common nature. The "individual" that is the subject of the liberal state is a legal fiction that does not exist in the world and the eschatology of liberalism is the creation of this "individual" by freeing him from all collectives including race, gender, and finally humanity. At such a point there can no longer be people as there is no common nature to create the bridge for a relationship.

The need to portray the essence or nature of things also relates to the use of abstraction. Realism creates the image as a surface, something that merely is and acts as a mirror which reflects the ideas projected onto it by the observer. Abstraction seeks to portray a face i.e. an image that reveals an inner reality.

Jason Campbell
Jason Campbell

There are so many paintings where the figures within appear to be looking out and creating a relation with the observer (first two pics). This is not limited to the style of inverse perspective. I would go further and say that inverse perspective is actually less effective at conveying the relation because the world of the painting is distorted. Linear perspective is much more engrossing by its nature and connections can be made easier. The iconography aspect is a separate issue entirely. Icons and symbolism can appear in both painting styles.

These paintings while being more 'realistic' still have the ability to show the essence or nature of things. Even photographs have this ability, the 'realness' of an image is independent of its ability to showcase somethings inner nature. I believe this idea of the painting as a mirror applies to more abstract and less realistic works as well. The observer takes out of the image what they put into it in a sense. This is true of all images.

Parker Gomez
Parker Gomez

inspire

Benjamin Ross
Benjamin Ross

There are a whole lot of aspects to what makes sacred art sacred. I guess what I'm most interested in is the use of existing myth and the ongoing creation of a living tradition that links notable ancestors (in terms of society rather than one person) from the eternal world of spirit into the temporal world of matter.

The use of reverse perspective is good for this because it projects the focal point out of the painting so the canvas is like a window that can both be looked into as well as out of. Your first two portraits have the people looking at the canvas but its more like a one-way mirror imo where only the observer can really look in.

The use of egg tempera and the golden sheen of icons helps to display the Uncreated Light (in Christian terminology) which is related to Zoroastrian use of fire as well as Heraclitus's beliefs about fire, this is one way the transcendental is seen to be manifest in matter.

Personally, I'm more experienced in music but I thought I might contribute a few ideas to the thread.

Joseph Gray
Joseph Gray

windows

Not real brutalism tbh

Jordan Kelly
Jordan Kelly

I get what you are saying. I think the inverse perspective paintings convey a sense of looking inward and spiritually that can be very significant. But there is a different kind of spiritual significance in the boundless expanse created by different perspective techniques.

Jose Martin
Jose Martin

reply to
More pictures!

John Morgan
John Morgan

What should we understand about modern art?
As far as I've learned, modern art was influenced by Freud, nihilism, and foreign african tribal shieet. I'm not an art person, but I'd like to know. Some based artist tell me about this.
Also, what kind of art is good?

Alexander Bennett
Alexander Bennett

At least it makes you think of the buildings as special snowflakes :^)

Ethan Bell
Ethan Bell

Just looking at these paintings of George Washington and the founder of the USA makes me wonder how they would react to today's world.

Jordan Mitchell
Jordan Mitchell

founders*

Ian King
Ian King

Sculptures like that just seem too real to be real, like they were people frozen in time as opposed to creations of chisels and hammers.

Andrew Morgan
Andrew Morgan

Art, imagination: these are reality. Not the other way around.

Jack Williams
Jack Williams

Here is another one, I know I have more, let me see if I can find any of them.

Juan Johnson
Juan Johnson

nihilism
Nihilism destroys the possibility of art because it denies any objective meaning to Good and Beauty. Art is aspects of the world of becoming organized to point to the world of being i.e. it creates a bridge between the eternal-infinite world and the transient limited world. Nietzsche essentially takes the dichotomy of transcendental and material inherent in medieval theology and just denies the transcendental. Thus things "just are" and have no essential qualities. Art becomes impossible.

African tribal shit
Exoticism was a movement that used foreign "exotic" ideas to break down European social norms. If traditions interact on a deeper level they often have very similar goals but on the superficial level they can be used against each other.

Pic related

Daniel Price
Daniel Price

thanks, user.

Hunter Clark
Hunter Clark

that first argument is trash.
impressionism was founded as a way to combat the economic impact that photography had on artists who had previously made careers selling portraits.

impressionism is the excuse of ((modern art)) not the start of it.

This can be easily demonstrated by giving anyone with fine motor skills a brush, canvas, and paint, then asking them to replicate one monet and one pollock, you will find incredibly quickly that they may have created a brand new pollock piece, but butchered the coast at sainte adresse.
impressionism requires creativity which is absent in modern art, simple as that.

Jayden Ortiz
Jayden Ortiz

fuck, i didnt bother to read the rest of the image, just realized this was addressed, my bad.

Wyatt Diaz
Wyatt Diaz

No problem user, interesting post though.

Does anyone happen to have that video made by an user about modern art? He posted it here, maybe a year ago and talked about the Mona Lisa not getting appreciated until it was stolen, among other things. It was an interesting watch but I can't remember his username.

Juan Gomez
Juan Gomez

For architecture Vincent Scully's Architecture: The Natural and the Man Made is a classic.