So. Our oceans are going down the shitter. Two issues:

KYS my man. The 21st century will be the age of geoengineering and climate CONTROL.

1. Fish farms, artificial coral reef production. Problem solved.
2. Dump massive amounts of bases into the ocean. This is how acidification of freshwater supply is combatted around the world.

China, India and large swaths of Asia and Africa certainly need to be depopulated.

You know, discussions on this board would go much better if people like you stopped pointing fingers and going "JEEEEWWWWWW" every time one is started.

I don't think altering the genetic make up of every single sea life form is feasible.

The source of the Fukushime problem is the corruption in the Japanese government, which will be very difficult to get rid of.

You don't think Trump can do anything about that?

It all depends on if it "dies down" before the oceans are dead.

I think you severely underestimate the volume of the oceans.

Not every single life form, just dump a few and they'll phase out the inferior ones in place.

I really wonder why Trump didn't persue the more environmental angle of things, since environmentalists are easy to redpill. After all, all you got to do is point out that all eco countries are white, save for some areas in East Asia.

Go back

Because most environmental organizations are owned by jews. It's why they push for funding rather than practical solutions.

A reminder to the detractors:

NatSoc is about environmental protection against a Judeo-Christian profiteering and alienation from nature.

I can only dream of it. Unless Trump sees a large market for US goods in Japan, I doubt he'd give a fuck.

Another remainder: if you want to preserve human "diversity", the best path is to promote non-racemix couples.

Molbio here, that's kind of asking a lot. Extremophilia isn't a small mod, like getting cells to express a protein. It's controlled by a myriad of genes, most of which have other functions in their respective organisms. We've had salt-resistant plants lined up for study for years and we're no closer to transfecting crops with salt resistance.

holy shit OP YOU ARE A FUCKING RETARD

Doesn't he meet with the leader of Japan in 2 days? I keep forgetting what they call him. He's not an emperor, it's on the tip of my brain.

Oh, look who it is.

It's also noticeable that they only care when it expands government power and reduces the power of western nations. Notice how there isn't much environmentalist movement for increased agricultural output?

Wow. Now that you've said that, I'm convinced. I see the error of my ways. How could I be so wrong?

It is well demonstrated that atmospheric CO2 levels affect pH of the oceans which in turn create adverse effects on organisms that utilize calcium carbonate.

Fascism is the acceptance of natural principles. It is every fascist's duty on an individual and not governmental level to care for their natural environments. It's the Judeo-Christian / Abrahamic angle that severed the European from nature.

Yep, on the 17th. Hopefully Abe will negotiate a withdrawal of US forces in return for a mutual defence alliance (if the US gets attacked, Japan will also respond), and he will avoid Trump's tariffs by offering to reduce tariffs on US goods.

Where are your sources for #2, sounds like alarmist eco bullshit that hippies said in the 70s about how the arctic would be totally melted by 2010.

Back to TRS, faggot.

>he thinks this is an argument
>he thinks this is not a shitty thread
OP on suicide watch.

Abe the first leader he's meeting with in person? I wonder why. Wouldn't it be great if our first trade deals were negotiated with Japan. They need to sort that out before the Olympics.

always extending the "deadline" of the ocean like fucking global warming.
you cried wolf so many times you can go shove a sealion fin up your arse alarmist faggot who bought the jewish propaganda.

Not the literal tons of radioactive water

kill yourself serf

So eating fish from any area in that spectrum will kill you then? Fuck, Guess I have to get all my fish from Florida then.

The thing is Chernoble finally stopped, the Fukushima leak has been active for over half a decade at this point

IT'S STILL LEAKING?

That's because they took action with sending in a clean up team then what the fucking stupid Japs are doing.

Yeah even the mainstream media isn't even trying to hiding it
cnbc.com/2016/03/10/us-watches-as-fukushima-continues-to-leak-radiation.html

It's pretty indicative to who is posting with the way they are posting.

I'm convinced this is what Abe & Trump are talking about then. That's fucking stupid as shit.

It isn't even about when, it is a matter of principle.

Not surprisingly, Feder earned the wrath of the construction industry. This segment of heavy industry had no tolerance for any kind of socialism, even if it was of the fake, nutty Nazi variety. Hitler had promised the captains of heavy industry that the "rabble-rousers" in his party would be curbed and Feder certainly fell into that category.

Hjalmar Schacht was a more reliable Nazi functionary who agreed with the need to curb Feder's excesses. After Hitler named Schacht Minister of Economics on November 26, 1934, he gave Feder the boot and assured the construction magnates that business would be run as usual.

Consider also Walter Schoenichen, an aide to Herman Goering who in his capacity as Minister of the German Forests supervised the "Germanization" of forests in conquered territories. In 1941, the Nazis took control of the Bialowieza forest in Lithuania and they resolved to turn it into a hunting reserve for top officers. Open season was declared on the Jews, who made up 12 percent of the population in this region and who violated the ethnic purity of the proposed game farm. Five hundred and fifty Jews were rounded up and shot in the courtyard of a hunting palace operated by Battalion 332 of Von Bock's army division. Goring decided that the purified forest should be altered into an extension of the East Prussian forests. An SS team led by Konrad Mayer, who had been Minister of Agriculture at Berlin University, planned a colonization program that would "Germanize" the forest. Poles, and any remaining Jews, were reduced to the status of barnyard animals to be penned up or slaughtered.

While the alarmist fags are a blight that robs legitimacy of real threats the fact that the acidity is increasing is true and it is increasing faster then during the exeptional thermal maximum of the eocene which led to an oceanic mass extinction.

Terrestial mammals had it good during that time though, so our grandchildren might eat more pork instead of fish.

>It doesn't matter if it's a lie goyim. It's all in good spirit!
Gonna stop you there
You are creating excessive amount of alarm using actual science and blowing it way out of proportion in accordance to the people that brainwashed your stupid ass.
Fuck off.

nice 5 year old reasoning there

it's not just 300 tons of radioactive water, it's 300 tons of radioactive water per day

reuters.com/article/us-japan-fukushima-pm-idUSBRE97601K20130807

If you don't care about conservation and sustainability you simply don't have nationalistic values.

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Pollution is a valid concern.

Global warming/climate change is not, though it is changing but not from humans, the Earth's climate has cycles of warmer-cold cycles every 100-500 years and will continue to do so.
Dumping literal cancer into the ocean is bad
Oil spills are bad
Toxic dumping is bad

Sure nature can recover from all of it eventually, but one of these days Mother Nature is going to get sick of our shit and kick us out.

Asia and Africa need depopulated
Japan can stay, though they need to stop genociding whale and dolphinu or having nuclear misshaps

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You still have to exploit the landscape in order to create something tree thumper.
No one is calling to fucking remove the coal plant filters and cutting the entire forest down.
Shit strawman btw.

Not to the 1st world. Yet all these policies will effect whom?
And who is initiating this?

This.

It's disgusting how some anons don't find habitat relevant. Natsoc is a force of nature and will make the world a balanced place by any means

I didnt say it would die.
It didnt die back then.
Its simply that we know that something is happening that changes the ocean to a state it was last in 55million years ago which impacted marine life.
The ocean will not die but great parts of useful species may die out and five room for others which arent as useful to us.

You can't have radioactive water. But you can have water with ionizing content.

That is, you can have water with radio active content.

Water itself cannot be "radio active". It's too stable for separating itself from the hydrogen atoms.

Yes, eating fish who've experienced 240cm of radiation will kill you.

No worries. They're going to very carefully cover it with a tarp and leave it for four years before they start removing the fuel rods.

Well we may have to acknowledge that the west has a duty to control and subjugate the nations that pollute and damage the environment.

We need to do a lot about pollution in general. All this carbon bullshit has fucked over all other anti-pollution plans and initiatives.
Seriously. Pretty much all funding or political will for pollution control and cleanup has evaporated since this whole carbon thing started.
Even the agencies meant to be observing that what few laws still exist have shifted their focus to fucking carbon.

We've got a chance with Trump since he's not paid for. He might be inclined to accept that something has to be done despite it costing big business a fuckton of profit.

Hows managing that autism working out for you?

Aren't we going to reach the singularity at some point? I'm not all that concerned, though I think some practices should clearly be stopped.

So the west?

Who is the jew here? Yeah environmental policies need streamlined, but without them we would be like India, people are lazy as shit and dumb as shit. Whites did that durring the Western expansion in the US and it ruined many cities and the surrounding areas, then the government had to step in.

Doesn't ocean acidification increase the absorption rate of CO2 from the air?

That girl is still ugly in the after picture and since you want to bring up strawmen where did I say any of what you mentioned? There's no reason the right can't work towards being on the forefront of renewable technologies and projects like multi level hydroponic farming etc that if made more efficient will make our societies more self reliant while simultaneously being better for the environment.

Lol this.
Its not like we dont buy the stuff others dig up, trying to shoehorn killallniggers into enviromental protection is not really about the latter but the former.

sea: 1,338,000,000 cubic kilometers
3.5 billion men with 5ml of upper average per cumshot which is 17500000 liters.
every man would have to cum 57142 times to produce a cubic kilometer of jizz

it woud take time and effort but WE CAN DO IT

That's what "acid acidification theory" is.
No shit. Libtards like you always make shitty estimates. Probably has to do with your overly emotional center of your brain.
I'm going to give an apathetic answer until 1 species has confirmed died from "ocean acidification" which is directly caused by "global warming".
If this species is so reliant on perfect conditions to survive and said conditions outside of man's grasp effect said species then perhaps the species do not deserve to survive if their survival is already on a needle point balance. Why bring on and try to protect something that is weak and frivolous?
also

How much impact would that have in current year though? Very few Americans eat fish to the same extent that they do in Asian countries. Even if we completely stopped importing Asian fish it would be just a drop in the bucket.

What pisses me off with Fukushima is that it was left to the Japs who left it to the company responsible for that shitfest.

Why?
The Russians have decades of experience, equipment knowledge and infrastructure. Why not tap that? They fucking offered to help. No strings.

We need to get some manner of international nuclear safety and cleanup group established so we're not leaving it in the hands of incompetent private companies who just want to find ways to do it cheaper and minimise their losses.
Perhaps require all nuclear nations to contribute financially.

Funny thing.
We're not the worst ones for pollution. A lot of work got put into bringing in laws and regulatory environments that got the worst of it under control. Helped that when shit goes horribly wrong the public throw a hissy fit.
Meanwhile most of Africa and China lack even the most basic infrastructure or desire to limit pollution.
Huge landfills of toxic chemicals and we've all seen the pictures of the Beijing smog.

We can get our own house in order fairly quickly if we set out to do so. But the Africans and Chinese won't care.

Ocean acidification is a minor effect that is only really a problem because it can cause a fishery collapse in already stressed fish populations. Were fish populations healthier, it wouldn't be a problem at all.

Talking tiny fractions of a pH unit here. Easiest way to combat that I have seen will be to dump iron in an unfished part of the ocean, causing a massive algal bloom, then let the dead algae fall to the bottom of the ocean. This will also kill all the local fish, as there will be no O2 left after the bloom. Hence doing it in a relatively dead area.

Not only that the United States is the second worst polluter on earth. I'd get a good laugh out of trying to see the rest of the west try to do anything to both the US and China

I don't care where you came from. You need to go back.

Yes. We need a carbon tax! It's working so well in Canada that businesses are going under! Let's just outsource it to our best friend China!

Said strawman since you somehow connected that us not believing in bullshit ocean acidification is equal to us not caring "about conservation and sustainability you simply don't have nationalistic values."
No one here said that the land isn't important. People like OP are bullshiting when giving us dates that never happen.

And don't know who "we're" is but as I mentioned in my other post the US is the second worst source of pollution. And the EU trying to "control and subjugate" both the US and China at the same time would only end comically.

HOW radioactive?

Dilution is a hell of a safety measure.

Its actually already dead
abc.net.au/news/2016-09-20/great-barrier-reef-coral-bleaching-dead-damaged-survey-finds/7859544

It's not just fish. Thousands of factories that are currently polluting the sea & air will be shut down in China & other countries due to the new tax schemes. You're underestimating how huge an impact it's going to have on the ocean when everything in America is no longer "MADE IN CHINA ©". It's not drastic enough to save the ocean but it's a start. Keep in mind this is just circumstantial healing because of trump being president. If he wanted to do something Directly it would be a whole different ballgame.

I thought that shit was exaggerated and only the Northern sections were bleached and it happens every ten years and then starts to grow back and Aussie lefties have been hugely exaggerating tbis

Probably because Abe contacted the campaign before Trump got the presidency and everyone suddenly acknowledged him. Abe didn't actually snub Trump in favor of Hillary when he made the meeting with her.

Incorrect. And it isn't a theory, its a fact. It's clear to anyone who ever drank a soda or other carbonated beverage.

Ocean acidification is just another stress on fish populations, which have collapsed or are in danger of collapsing around the world.

Simplest solution is to find a way to limit fishing, perhaps severely, for a year or two to allow them to recover. Otherwise, we may wind up with oceans full of jellies that no-one can eat.

I left that quote partially to be contrarian, but mostly because bickering over the op being wrong instead of just pointing it out and discussing actual solutions is a waste of time. If I was referring to anything in particular I would have quoted it

Again the US is the second worst polluter. I really don't see how that's going to have much of a impact

The guy you are using this form is a hardcore leftist. Just letting you know. And

I'm referring to people who use "climate change" to explain "ocean acidification". I'm not denying that ocean acidification itself does not happen. I'm denying and refuting that our ocean is going to "die" because of little bullshit like that.
Unless we can enforce something to stop China and India. Who currently own 2/7's of the population.
We're trying to plug up a hole on our side of the tub when it's already gushing out on the other side where we can't touch.

The ocean issues need to be dealt with on the immediacy of danger.
Clearly fucking radiation in the god damn ocean is more dangerous than someone's boogeyman climate change bullshit

where the fuck did you get that?

Overfishing is the most serious concern here in my opinion, and the solution is to genocide the Chinese.

Looks like some people need to learn to do their fucking job instead of just mooching on funds then.

One of the problems people are ignoring is the coral reefs.

They're all ANIMALS and they're all very sensitive to changes in temperature, pH, salinity, etc. Ignore climate change for the power-grab it is but recognize the carbonic acid cycle and the role it plays in demolishing coral reefs. There's also pollution in general- dissolved solids can wreck a coral reef in no time- and frequently do. The Great Barrier Reef's chief source of die-off is pollution from river runoff in Northern Australia.

There's a way to combat carbon emissions without wrecking the economy or giving a group of (((global bureaucrats))) too much control over the economy.

There's a way to reduce pollution dramatically without jacking up prices or wrecking businesses.

There's a way to be an envionmentalist without being a pussy.

It's called nuclear power

France instituted its Messmer Plan for nuclear energy in the 1970's. The world can do the same. A crash international program to develop a series of safe, standardized designs and the infrastructure to support them.

Designs will be standardized and plans for construction distributed to all participating states.

It'd be amazing. Nations could become largely energy independent, help grow their economies, and save the environment at the same time. This, if anything, is a project nationalists of all stripes could get behind.

Overfishing and oceanic acidification are interrelated, two aspects of the same problem.
For those stupid idiot fucking anons who deny, deny, deny that this happening, sealife stocks are down to 1-2% of their original amounts worldwide, and acidification is becoming such an issue that shellfish and coral reefs can no longer grow.
For the deniers, how about you do us all a favor and fucking kill yourself.

The solutions are blunt.
Forcibly cease commercial fishing, retiring some fishing fleets, and repurposing others to rebuild our stocks of marine life.
Filter sea water, removing plastics, down to about 4-600 feet. The machines required for this would be massive.
Remove carbon from the oceans, in whatever way possible. One way would be seasonally seeding the oceans with particulate iron, facilitating harvestible algal blooms.

By draconian methods, the oceans would spring back to life in a few centuries.

I'm a geologist and I'll tell you that ocean acidification isn't what you think it is and doesn't do what you think it does. Our oceans are nowhere near as acidic was they were in the Miocene. Acidification does not infact kill the fish, it is in fact quite good for pelagic and coastal fish which we eat because of the effect it has on plankton diversity. The decreasing pH of the water makes it more difficult for organisms to produce calcium carbonate and aragonite(skeletal material for hard-bodied plankton and coral) however this doesn't reduce the productivity of the oceans. In fact it increases them. Coral is a predatory organism(a cnidarian in symbiosis with dinoflagellates) which sweeps tropical waters clean of suspended organic material which fish and zooplankton consume. Coral reefs are very diverse but nutrient poor environments since the corals consume everything. This isn't good for us even though it looks pretty. Reef fish are slow growing and few in number and don't constitute large fish stocks. If like in the Miocene the ocean becomes acid enough that it restricts coral growth they will be replaced by red algae(a large family of benthic and mobile algal colonies). These red algae are common now in the acidic areas of the Gulf of Mexico and are the factor which creates the large fish and shrimp stocks of the region. And before you ask red algae doesn't create red tides or detrimental blooms, it is colonial and largely sedentary.

Assuming that the trends observed in the fossil record are true acidification does not change the ocean in a way which is detrimental to us but rather produces a bounty of food for our prey(fin fish) by increasing the productivity of the oceans and the availability of suspended organic material which feeds the zooplankton and the fish which consume them. It also makes plankton without hard skeletal material(which are more appetizing to fish) more common than those with skeletons which are metabolically expensive in the low pH environment.

If you care about "diversity" and think that every single species must survive then this is bad. If you are concerned about our food supply it is good.

That number is pulled out of your ass, down to 30% or 10% I could believe. In either case we have no accurate measurement of original stocks prior to 1910 and industrial fishing had been happening since 1650.

Get out, Jew.

As a geologist I say fuck the coral reefs. Coral reef extent undergoes constant fluctuation throughout the fossil record even in as little as a thousand years. They don't actually do anything for us you know.

Also though I like nuclear power you aren't going to stop the use of hydrocrabon fuel since it is both a high return energy source and a high density energy medium which can be burned on location. And given the massive reserves of natural gas there is no economic incentive not to use it.

As for global warming, now models are saying that the anthropogenic component is as little as 10% of the trend(and the trend in public media is vastly overestimated). In 2007 we thought the trend was as much as 60% anthropogenic but that no longer seems to be the case as more data has been collected.

I say fuck it, the changes in climate are inevitable and natural fluctations are both more severe in their amplitude and more rapid in the periodicity than the "worst" estimations of the supposedly anthropogenic warming trend.

You live in a planet which is constantly undergoing significant fluctuations and you a member of a species which has a generation time as little as 15 years. It's better to just adapt to whatever comes than to sink tremendous resources into preventative measures which likely will not be successful in mitigating changes.

If you want to ensure abundant resources for your children the best option is to slaughter the niggers, mestizos, saracens, and street shitters. Just cut off the food aid and two billion would die in the first five years. Problem fucking solved.

Yes, we should ignore the soil for the blood. No TRUE nationalists ever gave a hoot about the lands they live on.

The Green Revolution was a mistake. All food and financial aid to shitskin countries needs to be abolished. At the end of the day it's almost exclusively whites that care about the environment.

Fuck off disgusting locust kike

All you have to do to increase life in a wet area, is add surface area. You want more life in the ocean? Put up a ton of posts in hallow waters with good sunlight, and add random chains and ropes. It will become covered in life very quickly.

Humans are a major predator and herbivore, eliminate the useless ape creatures who are not white or jap and you have more food for the worthy ones.

Also the Nazi's were pussies who outlawed vivisection, a useful means of collecting data about living organisms. Animals are merely fodder and should be beneath consideration as individuals. The only thing that matters is their perpetuation in service to us for an indefinite period of time. All living things shall be our slaves, in one way or another.

You know that great auks ate a shitton of fish and were exterminated because of it right? Same thing with Tazmanian Tigers and wolves. They preyed upon our chattel, so we killed them off in areas we inhabit. Now if you want to keep some around to hunt for sport that is fine, that is a cost-benefit scenario which we can debate, but don't get all sappy about it. Extinction of species is as normal an occurrence as the death of individual organisms. It is part of nature.

BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT OCEAN ACIDIFICATION

Cattle user, chattel are slaves.

Killing all niggers, chinks and gooks would be a good start. We have about 1 billion whites on this planet and that's more than enough.

Also, I'm sick of the typical cuckservative stance towards the environment on this board. Environmental preservation was something that Hitler deeply cared about. If you boast about trashing the environment because you think it makes you look more right-wing, then you're not a real natsoc.

I know you…

not all locations are ideal for all fish user, we had floating factories running non-stop for decades, and the Chinese are still doing it. They process so much fish and destroy miles of seabed to do it. MAKE LINE FISHING GREAT AGAIN.

Arent corals useful for erecting barriers in the sea and supporting islands?

I'll admit my love for reefs is entirely selfish: I'm a SCUBA diver and I just love being in/among them.

I do care about diversity of the oceans by the way. Remember that drugs like eribulin, cytarabine, vidarabine, ziconotide, and trabectedin are already approved and helping people. There are a ton more in the pipeline and who knows what as-yet-undiscovered.

The reefs have value beyond tourism, there's a pharmaceutical and biotech IP goldmine in them thar reefs.

user do you really think that the corals that are supporting an island are still alive

This. Don't be contrarian for the sake of it.

Who gives a shit?
the enviroment is nothing but a jewish lie and all resources are infinite.

Fucking chinks and other thirdworlders have literally no environmental standards and we're blamed in the west for this shit.

would we be seeing the same effects if entering another glaciation period?

Population reductions in the third world must happen to stop over-fishing. Ocean acidification is caused by the second and third world dumping industrial waste into it.

Not to mention the fact that an Israeli firm installed the security systems to Fukushima Daichi weeks before the "incident"

Carry on. They are not evil in human form…

No not really. Corals can only exist below storm wave base and within the photic zone. Coral Atolls are created when the sea level drops and a massive coral buildup is exposed above wave base.

Cattle are chattel items which are meant for consumption. So something like a working dog is chattel rather than cattle. It don't really matter though.

STOP BEING A KIKE
populartechnology.net/2009/10/peer-reviewed-papers-supporting.html#Ocean

user, stop being retarded.

meh

Well then you are honest about your ascetic interest, that's fine.

Actually this a bullshit liberal conceit from the 70s. It used to be that we got most of our new chemicals from nature but these days nobody bothers anymore. We've found it easier to just crunch numbers in computers to figure out what molecules are possible and estimate their properties then synthesize and test them. There are some people involved in the business but it is dwindling. Like most things the liberal romantic vision was 100% bullshit anyway to begin with since we got more chemicals from the study of "common" organisms like bacteria than exotic ones if only because they were far more accessible and could be cultured in the lab.

The fact the drag-netting damages the benthic fauna doesn't change that fact that we have no idea what the original fish stock was.

We could just forbid the chinks from fisheries, just for self interest.

it depends. deuterated and tritiated hydrogen atoms can bond with oxygen to create radioactive water. that's different to normal water that has absorbed soluble radioactive material.

fuck, a lot of drinking water around the world has trace amounts of uranium in it. not enough to cause harm. the shit coming out of Fukishima has cesium, plutonium and strontium in it. to the tune of 60 billion becquerels per day. it's still up to 5 seiverts per hour in some places within 30km of the reactor, up to 10 around the reactor itself. one seivert has about a 5% chance to kill you from complications due to exposure, like cancer, so I hope the nips enjoy having babies with congenital defects.

Many people on Holla Forums have far to go. If you haven't had a near religious experience being in the wilderness you can't even call yourself white honestly.

This, atomic weaponry and energy is kosher by definition.

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Below is a partial list of Jews who were directly involved in the Manhattan Project. There were many more Jews involved at all levels of researching, constructing, and advocating the use of the atomic bomb than can be listed here.

(((J. Robert Oppenheimer))) [American Jew] - Scientific Director - Project "Y"
(((Frank Oppenheimer))) [American Jew] - Brother of and Assistant to (((J. Robert Oppenheimer)))
(((Albert Einstein))) [German born Jew] - Consultant to the Project
(((Niels Bohr))) [Danish born Jew] - Consultant to the Project
Leó Szilárd [Hungarian born Jew] - Group Leader - Metallurgical Laboratory
Nicholas Kürti [Hungarian born Jew] - Worked with Franz Eugen Simon [German born Jew] and developed a method of separating uranium 235 from raw uranium ore
(((David Bohm))) [American Jew] - Performed theoretical calculations for the Calutrons at the Y-12 facility in Oak Ridge, used to electromagnetically enrich uranium for use in the bomb dropped on Hiroshima in 1945
(((Rudolf Peierls))) [German born Jew] - British Mission
(((Felix Bloch))) [Swiss born Jew] - Worked under Hans Albrecht Bethe, performing nuclear fission research
Eugene [Paul] Wigner [Hungarian born Jew] - Group Leader - Metallurgical Laboratory
James Chadwick [British born Jew] - Chief - British Mission
(((James Franck))) [German born Jew] - Director - Chemistry Group
(((Otto Frisch))) [German born Jew] - British Mission
(((Edward Teller))) [Hungarian born Jew] - Thermonuclear Research
Emilio Gino Segrè [Italian born Jew] - Group Leader
Hans Albrecht Bethe [German born Jew] - Chief - Theoretical Division
Klaus Fuchs [German born Jew] - Theoretical Division [Communist Spy]
Richard Phillips (((Feynman))) [American Jew] - Group Leader - Theoretical Division
Morris Kolodney [American Jew] - Manager - DP Site
Louis (((Rosen))) [American Jew] - The "Father" of the Los Alamos Neutron Science Center
Louis Slotin [Canadian born Jew] - Critical Testing - resulted in his accidental death
Jacob Beser [American Jew] - Weapons firing and fusing
Theodore Alvin Hall [American Jew] - Youngest Scientist at Los Alamos
(((Samuel T. Cohen))) [American Jew] - Worked in the Efficiency Group
(((Samuel Goudsmit))) - [Danish born Jew] - Scientific Head of the Alsos Mission
(((George Placzek))) - [Moravian born Jew] - British Mission
Eugene Rabinowitch - [Russian born Jew] - Metallurgical Laboratory
(((Joseph Rotblat))) - [Polish born Jew] - Worked with James Chadwick [Communist Spy]
(((Gregory Breit))) - [Russian born Jew] - Predecessor of (((J. Robert Oppenheimer)))
(((David Greenglass))) [American Jew] - Manhattan Project Infiltration [Communist Spy]
George (((Abramovich))) (((Koval))) [American Jew] - Special Engineer Detachment [Communist Spy]
(((Victor Weisskopf))) [Austrian born Jew] - Theoretical Division
Alvin Martin (((Weinberg))) [American Jew] - Theoretical Physics under Eugene [Paul] Wigner
(((Isidor Isaac Rabi))) [Polish born Jew] - Consultant to the Project
Stan (((Frankel))) [American Jew] - Theoretical Division
Enrico Fermi [Italian born Gentile] was married to a Jewess - Group Leader - Theoretical Division

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"One of the central figures in not only laying the theoretical ground work but also persuading President Roosevelt to launch the whole atomic bomb program was (((Albert Einstein))), a foreign-born Jew with 16 communist front affiliations."

"The first commissioner of the Atomic Energy Commission was David E. Lilienthal, a Jew, who belonged to at least two communist fronts. He remained in that position for a considerable length of time." 1

(((Niels Bohr))) [Danish born Jew], given the Nobel Prize in 1922, escaped Denmark in 1943. "In September 1943, reliable word reached Bohr about his imminent arrest by the German police; the Danish resistance quickly managed to help Bohr and his wife escape by sea to Sweden. Soon after, Bohr was flown in a military aircraft to Britain. There he was introduced to the then-secret atomic bomb project. Eventually he was directed to the project's principal location in the United States of America. Bohr worked on the Manhattan Project at the top-secret Los Alamos laboratory in New Mexico, where he was known by the name of Nicholas Baker for security reasons."2

Leó Szilárd [Hungarian born Jew] born in Budapest, assisted Enrico Fermi in conducting the first controlled nuclear chain reaction.

Nicholas Kürti [Hungarian born Jew: Kürti Miklós] and Franz Eugen Simon [German born Jew who fled to Britain after Hitler came to power] discovered how to separate uranium-235 from uranium ore, which was necessary for the construction of an atomic bomb.3

"It is of utmost significance to point out that both atomic bomb and hydrogen bomb were in large measure a Jewish production. But basically the atom bomb and its further proliferation, is a Jewish idea. One of the central figures in not only laying the theoretical groundwork but also persuading President Roosevelt to launch the whole atomic bomb program was (((Albert Einstein))), a foreign-born Jew with 16 communist front affiliations."

"It was at this time that most of the Atomic secrets were stolen and passed on to the Soviets. When it comes to listing the spies and traitors involved, it almost reads like a Jewish Who's Who. The most notorious were Julius and (((Ethel Rosenberg))), who were tried and executed for treason, the only traitors in modern U.S. history to have suffered this fate. Further involved in this spy network were (((Harry Gold))), Abraham Brothman, (((David Greenglass))), [(((Ethel Rosenberg)))'s brother], Israel Weinbaum, Miriam Moscowitz, Sidney Weinbaum, (((Morton Sobell))). All these were Jews, and all were convicted of treason. It is also significant in the further development of the hydrogen bomb, again Jews were in the forefront, such as (((J. Robert Oppenheimer))), Steve Nelson [real name Joseph W. (((Weinberg)))] and (((Edward Teller)))."
"To get on with the crux of our dissertation, namely the commercial and industrial proliferation of nuclear wastes in the United States, which more than any other issue hangs as an ominous pall over our heads. It threatens to bring death, cancer, leukemia, and birth defects to the mass of the population, and, in fact, exterminate humanity itself."
"It is of utmost significance to point out that the Jewish network, has kept close control of the development and proliferation of this most devastating of all technical achievements – nuclear fission and nuclear fusion." 4

1 Ben Klassen, Racial Loyality issue 27, Creativity Movement

2 Wikipedia article on (((Niels Bohr)))

3 International Council for Science (ICSU) Committee on Data for Science and Technology CODATA Newsletter Number 79 March 1999

4 Ben Klassen, Racial Loyalty issue 27, Creativity Movement

I didn't knew that the short bus dropped some here.

Yeah after seeing the responses in the thread we deserve to die

Completely untrue. I'm a biochemist by training, I worked in pharmaceutical drug development. I didn't do drug discovery, I'll admit, but I did work on the more industrial side of things preparing drugs for manufacture and setting out guidelines for same.

We still get tons of novel drugs from nature. You're familiar with the small versus large molecule drug difference, yes? Most large molecule drugs are derived from nature.

Nobody's saying you harvest sea sponges for cancer drugs. Of course you study them then produce the stuff synthetically. What I am saying is that we have barely cataloged the life out there, much less metabolites and novel structures we could use.

1977-1987 we found about 2500 new metabolites
1998 alone found 840
2010 found 1003

Remember that Eribulin, a devastatingly effective new chemotherapeutic, was only approved in 2012 and derives from a metabolite first discovered in the 1980's.

There's a lead time on these things but they're coming out now in full force. Don't discount nature. ~3 billion years of natural selection manages to still surprise us despite the proteonomics supercomuting we can do now.

Don't pull me into your defeatism.

I've had my hands in the salty guts of nearly a thousands animals in my life. I live in the wilderness and I have no reverence or disdain for it. Making nature into your god is just faggy. Nature is simply the world which exists.

Frankly I look down on the Nazis and anyone who values form over function. If anything I like to prey upon and defile nature, I like to rip it apart and watch it grow back then do it again. A real man is a hunter and revels in the kill. You don't kill all the game not because you have an abstract love for them but so that there are more to hunt later.

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Aren't you a though cookie, huh buttercup?

I'm saying that the loss of the reefs and their organisms isn't a permanent loss of the compounds they produce. Those chemicals will be found in due time, and probably just as quickly as they could be discovered in nature though not necessarily in the same order.

Also if they already sunk time and money into research it is usually cheaper to just continue it rather than try a different approach, so I suspect they will continue, but if for some reason the reefs did die I don't see it as significant loss.

Just use Jew next time, faggot

I'm sick bitch, I was out collecting drill cuttings all weekend.

Sure you were…

You’re a retard.

Reported.

Source?

My main priority right now is to fight against white genocide. I only have so much free time. The way I see things any time that I spend trying to raise awareness about our dying oceans is time that I could have spent redpilling people.

Once a future for white children is secured, then I will shift to issues like these - but if white genocide continues to progress then maybe it's a good thing if the planet dies. If we're not going to be there anyway, then to hell with the browns.

Stop being a kike.

It's not a strawman. Species are dying out in front of our eyes and you're acting like it's nothing.

Let the browns wither and die. They will have deserved their fate.

But why tolerate the loss if it's not really necessary?

We've already discussed and proven that we needn't wreck the economy or standard of living in order to save the reefs. So why not just save the reefs?

Are you familiar with poison dart frogs at all? It's a sad story, really.

So there are lots of species, but there are sub-species and then localities. You can think of dart frog localities like different types of European- Norwegians versus Finns or Germans versus French. They're the same species but display different traits and live in different places.

These dart frog localities are often separated by maybe only a few kilometers, one locality on one mountaintop versus another a few km away.

Thanks to deforestation, many localities are extinct in the wild, if not the species as a whole. This had led to dart frog breeders holding onto their frogs, breeding them only with those from a similar locality. People will ship frogs to other hobbyists to get them to reproduce and keep enough genetic diversity in the captive populations to keep things going even while the wild populations are extinct. That's right- amphibian hobbyists are eugenicists obsessed with racial hygiene.

Can you imagine if this happened for corals? It'd be so sad! The last reefs you could see with their proper level of diversity would live in aquaria. Some guy's living room might contain one of only 10 of a certain morph of A. lordhowensis. Beautiful and complicated fishes like the flasher wrasse complex would live on ONLY in breeding facilities, as hobbyists normally lack the funds to support their reproductive needs.

You're getting a picture here. It's not human extinction but we DO lose natural beauty and we won't be getting it back anytime soon. It's just downright sad, made even sadder because it was preventable.

Why are you replying to yourself?

It’s a strawman. Kill yourself.

I just felt like adding that line to my previous statement.

By the way, for detractors who'd say "it's just a fish" consider that these guys recognize human faces, engage in something like REM sleep, and form very complex social hierarchies. If you keep one in a tank, it'll look at you- follow you around, respond to non-food stimuli. They're curious creatures, like puppies of the sea.

We get it, you don't have a volk and you over-identify with the fish in their polystyrene prison.

That wasn't what he said at all, did you read any of that properly or are you baiting?

Only the Abrahamists view Nature with disdain and as just a supply of resources to exploit. Christianity poisoned the mind of Europe with its teachings that the world is 'wicked' and a 'fallen creation'.

I read it, I read this whole thread. It's pathetic urbanite trash starting with op's wild appeals to authority and desperate assertions that the US is all but the world's worst polluter since no one would buy that it isn't China.

I like creatures. If it's a fault, so be it.

It's kinda magical. I know I got its attention with food but it was genuinely curious after a certain point. That's special.

I am the lord of the serpents!

Did you read the bits about how it's largely NOT carbon (though that's an issue, it's a longer-term one) but industrial runoff that's killing most reefs? Did you read the nuclear power proposal?

Japan fucked up some parts of the cleanup but any sane person would tell russia to fuck off. Have you already forgot the bad blood between the nips and ruskies during their land spat?

If it wasn't carbon emissions why would switching the first world's power gird over to nuclear do anything? It's just nonsense from a faggot who when he wants to talk about nature won't shut up about the things he sees on field trips and in glass enclosures. Birds in the trees and beasts in the fields and bugs in the walls, but hey you got a pet.

Does anyone else wonder if global warming is being used as a distraction from a real enviromental issue?

Hold on now. Are you telling me Israel is using smokescreens to cover up dirty dealings?

It's the basic jew handbook for getting dumb goy to hand over their rights. Someone somewhere is doing a bad thing so you need to give up your agency. Add in a scummy carbon credit scheme for Rabbi Shekelstein to make some money and Shlomo's your uncle.

Bump. This post needs to be seen.

You seriously don't know how a nuclear grid would benefit everyone beyond just the environment?

Now I know you're in the wrong place.

Also

Like the effects of global warming caused by contamination from jewish multinationals?

My nation is already energy independent and cheap nuclear has been the technology of tomorrow for decades. Probably Shlomo's fault but that doesn't change the facts. And no one who isn't out of their gourd on novelties wants the Ice Age megafauna back, they went extinct for a reason.

Why there isn't a thread on it but that child lawsuit went through. Expect 99% tax increase all going into soro's pocket. Also nuclear is a eu scam never forget.

No, you should kill yourself. Get fucked.

This is a natsoc board, faggot. If you don't like environmental preservation, then you need to get the fuck out.

sage for off topic but isn't scuba diving an expensive hobby? I've looked most places in my area 300 dollars for the open water certification plus 75 dollars to rent equipment if I bring my fins mask and wet suit and boat rides are 35 dollars an hour

Yeah vroom-vroom let's clearcut this here national forest for them thar strip malls, tittie joints and mexico-islamic welcoming committees. I just hate nature so galdurn much!

Cocaine would be a less expensive hobby once you factor in travel, lodging, equipment, and dive operators.

The certification is nothing and it's ultimately cheaper to just suck it up and have your own equipment. The real problem is once you love it and have to take an annual trip SOMEWHERE to dive. That shit adds up.

Good news if you live in Florida, Louisiana, or Texas is that there can be awesome diving near you. The Flower Garden Banks in the Gulf of Mexico are simply astonishing and home to a lot of shark migrations. Seriously impressive stuff. It's deep though so get your Nitrox. Also South Carolina has great wreck diving and temperate reefs.

Well what do you know.

sage

archive.is/i29K7
rt.com/news/256861-climate-change-un-hoax/
wattsupwiththat.com/2010/11/18/ipcc-official-“climate-policy-is-redistributing-the-worlds-wealth”/

That's how i like you goy.

Is a shitty term only alarmists use.
But
Is not a meme, as our planetary biotope indeed changes if certain stimuli are given.

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Let the planet be purged of sub-tier nominally human lives that should never have existed and be glad that several million eugenically fit people will find a way to survive in arcologies. We don't need niggers, beaners, and street shitters wasting all of the resources we need to get off planet on niggertech and fancy sneakers.

yes and in this thread we discuss how we can gain more control on the climate

Whales and Dolphins need to get useful or get exterminated.

Anything beyond bending something to our benefit is edgy faggotry.

Waste of time, energy, and most importantly doesn't help mankind.

every fucking time

Nature doesn't exist to serve us you Kike, we exist to serve Nature. Hitler knew this, but Abrahamists like you continue to fail at understanding.

And what is that hidden phrase that describes what they claim better?

Egyptian Pharoahs would ejaculate into the Nile because of one myth; it was said to bring fertility and good harvest.

Simple, we tell the chinks to stop dumping their industrial waste in the goddamn water, and stop fucking so much. Less chinks equal less overfishing.

They already have a one-child policy, right?

First of all, China needs to get gassed, they are soulless chinks and aren't human.

Look, it's simple. There are too god damned many fucking humans on this fucking planet, and it IS having consequences like overfishing. Just sit the fuck down and think about what it means that the oceans cover 70% of the globe, and we took so many fucking fish to feed our fat fucking faces that entire species are critically endangered.

We seriously need to genocide all the shitskins, they are destroying the planet out from under our feet. It isn't even a joke. Chinese, indians, and africans are the worst offenders, then we go to indonesians, spics, fat people, and muslims.

This. Environmentalism is Aryan. We exist to live in peace with mother nature and be its curator and protector.

This.

Also this. Stop buying products made in china. It feeds the filthy chink dogs, trashes our planet, and steals jobs from Americans or at least Europeans or some other white. Plus everything made in china is coated in lead or other toxins, is shitty and unreliable, usually just breaks, and 95% of the shit we buy from them is needless junk to begin with. Materialism and hyperconsumption are unAryan.

Fuck off cuck it's whites against jews and golems.

May well? Where the fuck have you been? After the Juden are gone, literally step two is bring the mongrels to heel and have them shepherd the land our way.

its funny how scientists openly admit we know more about the moon than we doo the ocean, but they have no qualms dropping these concrete timelines of when the earth is going to end, that oh so conveniently get moved forward a couple decades any time we get close to the original date.
scientisim/positivism really is a cult, complete with the apocalypse predictions.

Coral is worthless and the only argument for them is

Fisheries are where the focus should be and where the money is. Coral actively competes for the limiting resources in the ocean, namely dissolved oxygen and the big 3 water fertilizers: nitrates, phosphates and iron.
The idea that such things are bad is bullshit. We have fucked up the oceans though, with widespread erosion and flood control stopping or slowing ocean fertilization.

Case in point: Haida Salmon Restoration Corporation
In July 2012, the HSRC dispersed 100 tons of iron sulphate dust into the Pacific Ocean several hundred miles west of the islands off British Columbia. The Old Massett Village Council financed this project as a salmon enhancement project with $2.5 million in village funds. The concept was that the formerly iron-deficient waters would produce more phytoplankton that would in turn serve as a "pasture" to feed salmon.
The 2013 salmon runs defied all expectations, more than quadrupling, from 50 million to 226 million fish.
Cost: 1.4 cents per extra fish

Imagine if Trump threw his weight behind a $1B similar project while telling the greenies to go fuck themselves. Fertilizing, automated solar or wind powered aerators, devices to stir up rich sediments, we'd literally win the ocean.

post yfw all the previous mass extinctions have been due to to this very same scenario.

Humans get too developed and greedy and kill off nearly everything including themselves and the ayyys have to come clean things up and repopulate the earth with new species.

IT IS. Global climate change is just a jew hoax to discredit actual environmentalism. Pollution, deforestation, overfarming, farm runoff, dog/cat/human feces, unsustainable practices, litter, overuse of plastic especially in disposable nonvital items, overpopulation especially of consumptionist shitskins, acid rain, waste dumping, pollution of rivers, pharmaceuticals in the water supply (which are harming frogs, Kek's familiars), extinction and endangerment of animals and fish, the bees dying from pesticides, monocultures of crop (hello potato blight 2.0), etc.

There are too god damned many people on this planet. We are destroying our environment and will suffer inevitable consequences.

Why did the jew destroy environmentalism by associating it with retards like the green party? The jew hates nature, he wants everything a sprawling slum like the favelas. The jew profits on land "development," IE building favelas*cough*suburbs and stripmalls and other garbage. The jew profits off taking natural resources the cheapest, most corner cutting way possible. The jew profits off there being more wageslaves. The jew profits off selling needless material junk. See the pattern?

You cannot be nationalist if you are not environmentalist.

Kikery.

Kill yourself. Coral is to fish what forest is to animals.

What a cancerous thread. Many of these reddit leftovers believing some random made up shit propagandized by the media just because OP said so. How many of you know what ocean acidification actually does? How many of you actually know that CO2 is not a greenhouse gas as advertised in liberal media? How many of you know that all these global climate models that predict cataclysms of humongous proportions are off already, after being out for less than 20 years. Coral reef dies out in large portion every now and then and replenishes with life afterwards. Very few anons speak the voice of reason here and this is saddening. Newfags need to shut the fuck up about things they don't understand if they want to have a board to come back to, instead of 4cuck or redshit shit they migrated from.

Bullshit, you fell for another (((lie))).

Coral is a cancer, it sucks all the good stuff our eatin' fish need out of the water and glues it to rocks. Compare a reef map to a fish harvest map.

Fuck off kike puppet.

Op said he night dives in one of his post which is another certification you would have to take iirc

Holy shit there are some fucking retards in this thread. Where do you think a huge portion of our food comes from? Oh yeah the ocean. The oceans are also intrinsically connected to our entire biosphere, if they are fucked, we are fucked. China alone harvests somewhere around the region of 50 MILLION TONS of fish each year, is that fucking sustainable? And that's just China. What happens when there isn't enough fish anymore?

Jesus Christ, a fundamental tenant of national socialism is respecting and caring for your environment since it in turn provides for us. I want to live among green pastures and forests. Not some fucking arcology dome megacity because the world is ruined because of rampant pollution and retards defending it because muh economy.

You sound triggered.

Quality post cunt.

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Not enough talk about Fukushima in this thread. If the alt-media stuff is true, or even half of the 300 tons of radioactive material every day, then the Pacific is already dead and will take until 2080s~ for that stuff to decay into something more manageable, if the supposed leaks stopped today.

polite sage for off topic, but I actually know someone who was there cleaning up Chernobyl as it was happening.

This. It's like people haven't heard the easter island tale. (it was actually rats, but let's pretend it was people.) They cut down all the trees, and then there was nothing left, and they all died. Or ausfailia and the abbos, who burned everything until it turned into a desert. Can't we learn from our fucking mistakes already? You can't keep taking and taking and taking, it has to end somewhere. We are consuming faster than the land can renew. It will reach a critical point, and then we all starve. I don't get the anti-environment fags in this thread. Do you like living in dirty, polluted wasteland? Do you want every city in america to become beijing with smog so bad you can't see the sky? Are you just kike shills? What the hell is wrong with you?

Wow, was it really that bad? Idk, at least it will kill the west coast liberals first. Feels bad that nuclear is so great until it turns really bad. I think the better solution would be to REDUCE our energy needs in the first place.

I wish you fagots would end your petty squabble and actually make our earth and our oceans better.

This IS a problem. We do have a planet that is having a resource shortage.

You can't have a great western civilization without a clean environment.

Now, what are your suggestions for getting this right?

Sustainability laws regarding amount and type of fishing/farming/hunting that can be done along with stringent environmental regulations regarding waste products and their disposal/recycling. A huge portion of industrial waste can actually be recycled into useful products, companies don't want to pay for it they would rather just dump it.

Capital punishment for anyone found in breach of these laws as well as anyone aiding and abetting up to and including CEOs, board members and shareholders. Guarantee that would stop this shit fucking straight away and we can sort out the fucking planet that gave us life from nothing, we owe it to not fuck it up.

Drugged up Hippies are at least White, something a Nature-hating Kike like you will never be.

such is the way of things op

life will recover and be made Stronger for our actions

Or life will stop being able to support our existence, and the beauty of the European race will be lost from the world.

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Thanks for your informative post.

Oh yeah, one other thing I heard (that I didn't seem to see mentioned here from skimming) is that giant garbage dump in the north pacific, where all sorts of plastic and debris ends up collecting. Is it as bad as people claim it is?

I've heard of people looking into ways to collect, filter, and recycle the tiny plastic nodules on-site as a recycling project. Do you think this could be a big business in the future?

Wow, user. A quality thread. About fucking time!

Best >(1) ever

Yeah it's really fucking bad. Some guy came up with a 10/10 idea to clean it up for a pretty low cost but idk what happened to it, just seems to have gotten ((buried)). It was basically a giant floating comb and it has already been proven to work on a smaller scale.

not this meme again

Nuclear fission doesn't cause nearly as much waste as electricity does, and besides we're making gains into fusion power which produces no waste. We can't rely on a limited resource like oil forever.

Ocean acidification is due to the absorption of CO2 from the air. CO2 reacts with water to form carbonic acid.

CO2 + H2O -> H2CO3

Carbonic acid deprotonates and makes the ocean more acidic. The more CO2 in the atmosphere, the more acidic our oceans are.

Pic unrelated but its from the Physical Oceanography Laboratory, which has a pretty sweet logo that has POL in it

Kill all shitskins and kikes. Reduce burden on the earth. ??? Problem solved. Also beat fat people with blunt objects until they stop being fat.

It is certainly pretty damn bad, but not as bad as the gulf of mexico dead spot. An area of ocean near the output of the mississippi river that can support no life at all, and this area is larger than New Jersey. And it's growing.

Fukashima is still leaking radioactive waste fam, we fucked

You're more fucked every time you walk out into the sun, sonny Jim.

Yes, I know I post this picture literally every time we have this argument

Hydrocarbons are not nearly as abundant as you might think, and they have many more sensible uses than just burning them into water and co2. As reserves close to the surface get depleted, the energy investment per unit of energy extracted falls pretty much hyperbolically. Anything below 3/1 is really just not sustainable, and grounds for a civilizational collapse - unless a new energy source is found. Then there is the fact that while yes, the climate change predictions are a gigantic kike cashgrab, as much as 40% of atmospheric carbon dioxide is man-made. Knowing just how complex a system the earth's atmosphere and climate is, this shit really rubs me the wrong way.

As for the merits of nuclear, there are simply too many.
Now if we were to ditch the incredibly inefficient reactor designs we're using now - which were developed to make nuclear weapons and power submarines, with civilian use a very late afterthought - and actually change over to something like LFTR systems, we'd

Nuclear is the way to go.

They claim the world is warming. So you FUCKING CALL IT GLOBAL WARMING AND THEN YOU DISPROVE IT.

ABBOS AREN’T HUMAN, DIPSHIT.

I know it seems dire, but life uh, finds a way. I think pretty much any of our actions, other than forcing a species to extinction, is fully reversible, given enough time and energy. Maybe it takes more than one generation, but it's possible.

Sure, toxins in the plastic bioaccumulate now, but over the next hundred years, maybe some fish and filter feeders will have adapted to resist or remove the toxic components and use the plastics as a food source; it's an organic compound and it can be broken down by biological processes.

Hell, it's not unreasonable for a plastiphage bacteria to come into existence, either. Drop some of those niggas on the mess and watch them eat it all and die off like yeast. Holy fuck don't bring them into urban centers Just look at Tardigrades and the extreme conditions they survive in. Or hell, there's a bacteria that adapted itself to consume the massive amounts of gamma radiation from Chernobyl's core as a food source. It might not be in our lifetimes, but nature always, always balances itself out.

Yes. Eventually. However, the energy flow through the ecosystem will be massively reduced, and as yet we still rely on biological power for our own survival. If you look at ecosystems thermodynamically, a mass extinction is generally felt far and wide because it creates ripple effects that can only be addressed by natural selection. Those seem short in our fossil record, but for a human 100 thousand years is not exactly the blink of an eye.

Environmentalism isn't doing a carbon tax, you fucking retard. Guess all that lead and flouride in the water put in by the jews is working wonders on your brain, huh?

Quit reading right there you fucking sneaky Jew faggot.

Oh, Holla Forums, that's your solution to everything.

Well, user, whites are only around 10% of the planet's population. Considering just how polluting everything from agriculture to sewage is, a purge may well be the solution to a great many problems.

Environmentalism was pozzed by multiculturalist/globalist propaganda, featuring dirty little Afrikan kids and jungle life. All the saturated imagery of grubby non-whites and dirt. All the non-whites and every other race, supposedly more environmental and caring than Whites.Then there are those who take environmentalism too far and say we need to abandon all fossil fuels immediately.

Well this is obvious BS BECAUSE WHITES AND THE JAPANESE WERE THE FIRST TO MAKE PARKS AND NATURE PRESERVES IN THE MODERN ERA

Just because kikes are taking something and running with it way too far doesn't mean it's false. Fucking burgers and your inability to think in anything other than black/white absolutes.

I think you mean ONLY. No shitskins have or ever will care about anything that doesn't immediately either feed them or fuck them.

Yes, but the current management is subverting them to put the kibosh on that whole "manifest destiny" and "not living in totalitarian panopticon megacities" thing. If you haven't read about Agenda 21 (or Agenda 2030), now's a good time to start.

That isn't a chart denoting radioactivity. That's a tidal map showing the wave from the tsunami.

Get out.

This is jewish climate change "you goyim will need to change and sacrifice everything while we profit" tier. Fuck off.

C'mon guys. See embed.

Ocean acidification is the major issue. That'll fuck us all to death.

This

Nuke japan when?

Here's the original image. Note the footer.

smhtbqh

It were Israelis that sabotaged it.

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Well, it was pozzed.
When people think about environmentalism, it isn't the image of a nationalist sentiment that you share, the kind that shows natural beauty, mountains, natural landmarks; it isn't the kind with our land, the land that a nation should be proud to inherit.The pride in environmentalism was syringed and replaced with shitty Indians, niggers, and non-whites. Then thrown in with radicalism. It wasn't pride in maintaining your national pride and land, the people's most precious material possession, but virtue signaling faggotry.
The kikes did take environmentalism and use it for propaganda. That's all I pointed out, and I mentioned the spergy, alarmist environmentalists.

I agree.
As for issues with environmentalism, social and economic matters are important. Pollution is a by-product of industry, and often that goes along with employment, with the economy, and with other things of importance. It isn't a black-and-white issue, because it corresponds to many things in our social climate. A good environmentalist should be pragmatic.

Okay so we'll make a huge rocket on one side of the planet and move like 2000 km closer to the sun. More light means more heat and everyone in the ocean is happy. Problem solved.

PS please dont (((disagree)))

All the people replying with "hur dur fuck the planet" to people that say it isn't a problem are dumb faggots. You completely miss the point it is subhumans fucking everything and the actual solution is less of them. I can't portion my candy bar to last me 25 years and share it with 6 billion roaches that also shit on it first before eating it. The only reason it is a white problem is because subhumans are fucking up shit that isn't theirs.

This, Holla Forums has gone down the shitter ever since reddit took over.

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Genetic engineering is the cure.
We need to adapt organisms to the ongoing changes in our human world.
>>>/genes/

Hitler wanted to be vegetarian for a goddamn reason, although the altruism is misplaced. Humans are omnivores. But to say we don't experience love for nature and can connect deeply with it on a spiritual level, well, you're fucking wrong.

Thanks for this user, the lack of care for the environment on Holla Forums and 4/pol/ drives me nuts. This shit matters. Hell, ignoring the medicine, ascetics matter. Reefs are gorgeous.

You don't know shit and you should probably kill yourself.

A lot of it is just knee-jerk because a lot of lib faggots (pretend to) care about the environment so if you do it too that makes you a fucking liberal. I understand it but that doesn't make it not retarded.

I despise the left in general but we shouldn't reject valid points just because some fat SJW spouts them. Granted 99% of what they say is garbage but we definitely have common ground. I'm sure I'll get called a shill for saying this though.

I thought the retarded Fukushima radiation was actually doing it.

If every person on earth purchased 1 bottle of Dawn dish soap, and dumped it into the ocean, we could solve the pH levels.

Then they could get rid of the stupid picture of that little duck, and put a bad ass picture of a coral reef on their bottles instead.

Add this onto every man jacking off 50,000 times into the ocean like some other user mused about, and we have a solution to our situation.

There is my contribution to this shitty thread.

The CDC has declined to provide an official statement at this time, but initial reports from the scene seem to indicate that that burn was fucking sick.

But it was the west that helped try to colonize those areas in the first place.

OIY VEY GOYIM, YOU MADE THE OCEANS ACID!!!!!!

Technically, Ocean acidification is an incorrect description. Any ph above "7" is alkaline. The correct term would be Ocean Dealkalination.

The ph scale is a negative log base 10 scale from 0-14 measuring the concentration of H+ and OH- ions. At a ph of 7, (H+ = OH-) which means the solution is neutral. Below 7 it is acidic and above is basic. At ph 7, H+ and OH- have a concentration of 100nano Moles per Liter.

Now to make the claim "25% increase in acidity" you have to ignore the alkaline scale and treat the entire ph scale as an acid scale. At ph 8.2 the H+ concentration is 6.31nm/L and at ph 8.1 it is 7.943 which is indeed a 25% increase.

But to be considered an acid at all you'll have to further increase the H+ concentration by more than 12.6 times or 1260%. So that 25% increase is about as potent as pissing in a lake.

P.S. CO2 makes up 200ppm of our atmosphere currently. Taking Venus as a model for the radiation heat transfer and emissivity you'll learn that DOUBLING the concentration to 400ppm would cause a temp increase of 0.5C. But i'm not sure how long that would take considering how long we've been at it and are only at 200ppm now.

P.P.S. In the Fossil/Ice-core atmosphere record, mass extinctions have a direct correlation to CO2 minimums and life flourishing to CO2 maximums. It's almost like flora is an automatic thermostat for CO2 and… temp …. hmmmm

If what you say it true, then this is definitely a shill thread.

I don't know the "correct" pH levels for the oceans, but water is suppose to be neutral at 7. (Actually, ever so acidic if I recall correctly. Not sure if it's actually a 6.99 or something. Maybe that's only tap water) Salt water could be different.

But if our oceans are already alkaline, and the change isn't making the ocean acidic but our oceans are actually dealkalinizing, then I assume that's a good thing. Our oceans are repairing themselves.

Pick one.

How the fuck are they healthy eating like that?
I blow up to the size of a hot air balloon if I don't sweat my balls off all day if I eat those food groups like that!
I eat exclusively steak/chicken and cream in coffee all day, take a vitamin, and I'm dropping 3-4 pounds per week right now without taking a single extra step in physical activity than necessary to get around during the day!

Funny, and that "(((Jewish))) science" gives you by far the cleanest and densest energy source available. If you don't build the plant like a SpaceTime damned moron.

Really we need to genocide all non-whites. It's really the only solution to environmental problems.

Two words:

Clathrate

Gun

Rice isn't really all that dense. I used it as my primary carb source for a while because I was broke and trying to put on muscle, but I had to eat a ton of it.

Holy fuck, Tasmanian Tigers did not prey on chattel. It'S a debunked myth.
It's extinction was due Tasmanian Government,s financial reward for killing them while it was newly introduced wild dogs and other species that killed livestock.

That's pretty interesting, would solve the fish numbers atleast

Since coastal areas are the MOST dependent on the ocean for obvious reasons, and most of the retarded faggots wrecking shit are found in coastal areas, I suggest we glass most, if not all, coastal areas, and see if this will cause an upswing in living conditions for everyone and everything worldwide.

good. hopefully people die off faster and we go extinct.

Two counter words:
Solar
Minimum

Oceans have salt in them, of course they are alkaline.

>>>/4chan/

Fuck off Hillary there is literally nothing wrong with coal

Such is life.

asians thrive on high carb

europeans thrive on high fat

we process food differently

THERE IS NO CLIMATE CHANGE

But I do agree, Asia should be nuked, they fuck up the oceans.

That is the the most off-beat language I ever heard.
When people make the case that Trump is too casual as a speaker, they need to also point to how awful Clinton is. Yeah, she appears less casual, even more composed, but if you listen you can just tell how bad she is at it. It's just rigid and bad for the ears.

Pure salt water would be neutral, sodium and chloride ions don't interact with water. Seawater is basic because it touches and contains a lot of calcium carbonate, which produces calcium hydroxide in solution.

At least 2 and a half billion people across third world (Asia, Africa, S.America) consume less that the west, but they contribute to the environmental damage through sheer virtue of numbers and the fact that subsistence living is most damaging on biodiversity of any region through virtue of low population density, overuse of basic resources and lack of specialization and efficient production that would help preserve at least some nature, like in the West. Like rabbits without foxes to control them, they overstretch their habitat and ruin it, which is followed by massive dying off - we currently took the foxes and wolves of hunger and disease away and the masses of the Third World are on their way to swarm everything.
Trying to bring those people to our standard of living is impossible, if that happens, Earth will run out of everything.

Despite ecological alarmism, the issue of resource scarcity and the limited capacity of the biosphere cannot be ignored - western populations are in decline, but overall stable and should not be expected to increase their share of resource consumption, it's the poor and the hungry that will kill the planet, unless they can be curbed first.

All the data I've seen suggests this is not a major problem. Less than a decade of reduced fishing would bring most species to carrying capacity.

Earth has dealt with high CO2 levels before. Furthermore pH is a logarithmic scale, and several buffer salts are present to slow any such shift, so no it definitely won't get out of hand.

Here's a fun calculation. Work out how many protons it would take to raise the acidity of the oceans by 0.1 pH.

Then explain to the board where the hell all of those protons are going to come from.

Retard.

I think most of that fish is going to feed their giant populations.

This, in essence. Humans are far more fragile than Earth.

Love nature myself, but don't fear for her, just work with her.

Things like pics related, these actually exist, I've experienced several myself. it is profound, beautiful, and awe inspiring. Needless to say the very aether is electric.

Criminally underrated post.

ITT: see the ratio of intelligent and/or knowledgable anons to ignorant religious(as in blindly and stubbornly believing) fundamentalists that bring shame to the Aryan race. The truth is more important than being right.

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don't lump Christians (real Catholic/Orthodox ones, not (((Protestant))) ones) into that cesspool.
The Earth is one of God's gift to mankind, and it is part of our duty to protect the Earth, while also using it to better ourselves and our species.

FPBP

I think this is the jews end game, if they can't get rid of us Whites then they will destroy the planet.

Look into that seed bank they have.

Nah, you're thinking of Marxist socialists, natsocs didn't have an obsession for agrarianism.

I actually have a funny story about island polynesians and fish
polynesians live on very small very soil poor islands so historically fish made up most of their diet
this resulted in them divided up fishing grounds like how every other culture divvied up land for farming
they had fishing quotas enforced by religious and tribal laws as well as strict dietary rules
regarding the type of fish certain people could eat
this ridiculous system actually allowed many polynesians to survive on their islands without depleting their local waters from overfishing
until Europeans came around in their big ships
now for us of course with our big fucking massive ships and living on massive continents or islands didnt know at the time that most fish are confined to coral reefs or coastlines
the open oceans are noticeably devoid of much fish and nutrients
so back in the 17th century we according to popular Christian thought thought that the oceans bounty was limitless
and since we were so much smarter than the island nigger on a canoe with his spear and half starved kids rationing fish we knew better
so what happened next is missionaries convert polynesians and we introduce the concept of currency and working for money instead of working for food
polynesians forget all their rules regarding how much they're allowed to eat or the sea god punishes them and they fish their waters clean to make a quick buck off the fishing industry
of course what happens when a people who rely on a 70% fish diet suddenly fish all their fish?
whoops out of cash, out of food and have nothing left

a love of nature doesnt mean farming moron
preserving your nations forests, mountains and wildlife is what he meant

Hello Newfoundland

Elect politicians who don't want to get rid of regulations. Duh.

I dont get it

Not sure if that guys a Newfoundlander but now you've summoned me, the over fishing of the grand banks and off the coast of Labrador isn't at all our fault, it's because of Europeans

Europeans should never be in charge of or have influence in managing fisheries

Newfoundland like the Polynesians traditionally lived off of the sea, but because of poor management of both their overlords that's impossible for either of us. Not sure what effect that had on Polynesians but growing up in Newfoundland one of the main questions you're asked growing up is where you'll go for work when you finish school and leave NL

well alot of them starved
they cut down whats left of their woods and plant cash crops like bananas
run tourism agencies, some of the islands are rich in phosphate and guano so some of them mine that stuff and sell it to big pharma
theres an island in kiribati thats one earthquake away from being doughnut shaped because the Imperial Japanese army set up a mining operation there for about 5 years and mined the island into a bowl
theres a beach, a short stretch of tropical palm forest and then it all drops straight down into a strip mine
the populations are also kept small

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Tbf its not all Europeans
its the dutch the germans and the norwegians
the germans have pulled about 150 billion Euros out of Irelands coastal waters, none of it sees Ireland
while the dutch and the norwegians fish Englands and Scotlands coastal zones empty
Britain and Ireland are banned from fishing their own rich and teeming coastal waters because of the EU and german, norwegian and dutch fishing industries which the EU is trying to artificially support

I don't give a fuck if Hillary agrees with me, coal is:
1. Dirty: coal contains every possible sort of filth you can find in the earth's crust, and when you burn it you release literal tons of it into the atmosphere. Bitch all you want about nuclear being dangerous - nuclear only ever becomes a problem when it fails catastrophically, which is an extremely rare occurrence and will only become rarer still if we actually invest in it - while coal just straight dumps all its shit into the environment.
2. Finite: just like all other fossils, you're basically using up solar energy stored as hydrocarbons. Keep using it and eventually it will run out. Now, granted, the same is true for every possible energy resource, but the difference is orders of magnitude here. Not to mention as all the more easily accessible sources run dry, the energy return is going to keep going down.
3. Inefficient: the volumetric and mass energy content of coal is high when compared to other shit like natural gas, but it ultimately requires an arseload of the crap to provide power.

Coal is a good power source, but it is far from ideal, and we simply have far better alternatives now. And finally,
JUST BECAUSE LIBERALS ARE RETARDS DOESN'T MEAN THE NEOCOHENS ARE RIGHT EITHER

There is a reason why natsoc is often called third position. We do the logical and right thing, instead of playing into a blind team sport for retards. "libruls said it therefore we must do the opposite". Notice how it's always kikes on both sides of the spectrum - one side calling for stupid renewable toys, the other swearing up and down that nothing needs to change, and neither actually pursuing a solution. If you think the environment doesn't matter, get out cuck.

We're doing this for our people into posterity, not just to pad some numbers on some sheet in some kike magazine. Doing irreversible harm is simply not acceptible. We used fossils to master nature, but now that we have, we need to transition to actual sustainable behaviour ASAP. If we just get stuck here running fossils, polluting shit and ultimately running out without providing an alternative, we're fucking everything up for our descendants. Remember, a volk is not a 3 dimensional thing, it persists through time.

I'm not advocating for some anarcho primitivist bullshit either, we need energy and lots of it. But we can find it in ways that don't require killing everything around us, and potentially fucking up the pysical environment too. So I am for mass adoption of nuclear energy as well as space exploration, to ensure we always have energy and living space. I think Hitler would've figured much the same.

human civilizations has always relied on some carbohydrate as the base of their diet - rice, wheat, corn, potatoes, barley, etc. You bought into the reddit keto meme and are losing weight because of simple caloric deficiency. congrats

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OP is onto something. We need that climate change is a globalist meme so the UN Jews can get some tax shekels, but things like water contamination are a serious shit and nobody do nothing about it. I don't know nothing about the thing about acidification and OP can be talking bullshit, but the thing about overfishing and industrial waste is something evident and real.
Remember that a real NatSoc lives in armony with nature, only subhumans destroy nature, even the "gentle tribes that lives in peace with nature" like the Austrial abos almost burned all Australian forests.
We need to defend nature from subhumans. It's our duty as white people.

Anyone got more reef porn?

Just because kikes are leeching shekels off climate change doesn't mean flooding the atmosphere with CO2 has no adverse effects. Stop falling for false dichotomies for fuck's sake.

Whenever I see nuclear power brought up, there's always (((1))) of you to pop up and imply it's a heavily Jewish form of energy, yet I can't help but notice it's always been the Chosen entertainers, journalists, companies, and lobbyists that rally so hard against it.

Pure coincidence, I'm sure.

I don't know why people don't scuttle all old ships out at sea instead of letting the curry's chop them up. Every sunken ship becomes the beginning of a whole new ecosystem that does nothing but grow. If we started making large very cheap structures to go and sink we could probably generate enough food for everyone.

It's kikes pushing it and it's kikes detracting from it. Same as it's kikes pushing wind and solar, and kikes detracting from it. And, as a matter of fact, it's also kikes saying fossils are just fine and trying to come up with a better solution is socialist stupidity.
If you want to pick an energy source that has no kikes associated with it, try something like using the heat caused by otakus masturbating intensely or something. How about instead of looking for kikes to tie in with the opponent's argument, everyone debate the merits of it instead?

Fuk ya, shame to all the other races too

I've heard this same claim about wolves in the US, then when they reintroduced some losses of livestock increased and they saw the wolves doing it. Either way my point stands that they were intentionally exterminated and if the reason for that extermination was valid then I don't really care very much. Wolves are too rare to hunt much so I see not reason to incur losses just to have them around.

H2O -> H+ & OH-

Lol mate……

You're not helping….

Thorium would be a great alternative fuel source once the research is done. Thorium is twice as abundant as uranium. If only it had a plutonium-like weapons grade byproduct we could have had it done in the 1930-40s too.

Also, if we can get some asteroid mining started we'd be able to start building the microwave transmission solar farms. But im sure that has nasty failure modes of its own.

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We can reverse this shit. Tesla tech needs to be studied more deeply, I think it can affect radioactivity levels.

As far as what to do about the ocean in the short and medium term:

1)Immediate moratorium on all commercial fishing. Subsistence fishing allowed.

2)Massive Mariforming and Cleanup Project - restore ecology to the seas. Just as with our landmasses, humans can tweak ecosystems using design systems like permaculture to foster biological systems - the most resilient systems on the planet. More plankton, less plastic.

Thorium is not only twice as abundant, with the LFTR fuel cycle you can actually use pretty much all of it, unlike Uranium where most is not fissile. As for microwave solar farms, well, eventually the system will have to be fully supplied by solar energy as fissiles get depleted. But there's a long way to go before we have nearly enough infrastructure in space to even attempt such a thing, and by that time we should long be an interplanetary civilization.

People itt also need to realize a fuck ton of O2 is produced from plankton and something like a changing ocean ph level will kill off massive amounts of it, not to mention the sea ecosystem collapse.

True however it can be made clean.
Might as well use it then and get the material back into the system.
Doesn't really matter in a powerplant.

Coulda swore they had a design for an unmeltdownable nuclear reactor (technically it was made to run all the time at temps and pressures that are typical of a meltdown) using Uranium as the fuel

CO2 like Nitrogen is plant food, exposing them to higher quantities makes them grow faster and produce more Oxygen.

Thorium is pretty cool.