TRUMP SOON TO BE CROWNED SPACE EMPEROR

FORGET MARS, TRUMP WANTS NASA TO VISIT JUPITER'S MOON EUROPA AND EXPLORE THE SOLAR SYSTEM

Neither candidate spoke much about space during the 2016 election, but just before Trump was elected president, he outlined a plan for NASA to move from an Earth-monitoring agency to one devoted to exploration. When Obama took office, he told NASA to ditch the plan to revisit the moon and concentrate on sending humans to Mars in the 2030s, but Trump has set the space agency only one goal. The president-elect wants NASA to explore the furthest reaches of the solar system by the end of the century, according to Space Policy Online.

Trump’s new space plan, still a little short on details, focuses on eliminating bureaucratic waste, promoting a private-public partnership, and setting ambitious goals for NASA that will force the agency to stretch itself. It’s the same kind of goal Kennedy gave NASA in 1961 when he instructed the agency to catch up and overtake the Soviet Union to win the space race.

In the weeks and months leading up to the election, neither candidate had much to say about space and the presidential debates didn’t even mention NASA. After the second debate, SpaceNews sent both Clinton and Trump a series of questions asking about their plans for NASA, which was followed up by a questionnaire from Scientific American a few weeks later. Clinton praised NASA and dropped the names of space super stars like a pro while Trump gave short vaguely worded answers devoid of any specifics. Then, shortly before Election Day, the new president-elect recruited former Republican congressman Robert Walker, who chaired the Science, Space, and Technology Committee in the 1990s, to help draft a plan for NASA. Trump’s new space policy, heavily influenced by Walker, is designed to coordinate public and private efforts to maximize American efforts to explore the entire solar system. That includes mining valuable minerals from the asteroid belt and visiting Jupiter’s moon Europa, perhaps the best place to find alien life near Earth. Trump plans to bring back the National Space Council, last in operation under George H.W. Bush, explore deep space, and encourage commercial partners to build a new economy in low Earth orbit, Walker told Mother Jones.

The space council, headed by the vice president, would be charged with making sure each partner, NASA, the military, and commercial partners, are all playing their proper role. The new president-elect also has plans to abandon climate research, transfer Earth monitoring funding from NASA to NOAA, and strengthen the U.S. military’s stance in orbit. Trump’s administration plans to eliminate many of the redundancies facing the American space program today. NASA is currently building a massive rocket known as the Space Launch System (SLS), but there are private companies also working on heavy rockets capable of deep space travel. Ditching the NASA launch vehicle and relying on private spaceships would free up federal funds for other space-related projects, which would reduce costs, create jobs, and promote growth. With better cooperation between the government and private companies, federal funds could be better utilized to help America explore the solar system, U.S. Rep. Jim Bridenstine, who is on the short list to head NASA, told SpaceNews.

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Fuck the EM Drive apparently works, why the fuck not?

So fucking nice to read that we're finally talking for real about asteroid mining.

ALL OF THE PLANETS DON

Not exactly news; these comments came from a speech over two weeks ago.

Not that we're anywhere near a functional model; right now the drive is so weak it's like trying to fly a passenger airplane with a propeller hat.

Last time I read it was still within the error range. Even if it worked it would have extremely low thrust.

I'd prefer he do this in his second term once he's made America great. Then we can make space great too.
Does America even have the capability to get that far into pace? I'm assuming this is with live humans since we've probably already got satellites in that area?

Better than nothing. You can find plans lying around the internet, it's time to get proactive.

GET READY FOR MORE WHITEY ON THE MOON KVETCHING

And just let NASA fester for four more years, a shithole that sucks up more money and does absolutely nothing?

Space exploration isn't just our future, it's our fucking purpose. Wake up. Conquering the stars is the best way to MAGA I can imagine.

i can't take the synchronicities anymore. my head is going to explode

GOOD
Trump's soul isn't bound by Earth's gravity. Invest in fusion research. Grab all the helium-3 on the moon. Lay claim to the moons of Jupiter.

That's really meant for tiny probes. It wouldn't scale up very well.

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If anyone will build Orion, it's Trump.

Is the model still good after 50+ years, user.?

The concept is sound, but the engineering is not done. The test ban killed research into nuclear shaped charges so we don't yet know how well theory matches practice.

EVROPA

REMINDER THAT THE MOON WAS AT ITS LARGEST (closest) IN DECADES TONIGHT
KEK WILLS THAT A TRUMP TOWER BE BUILT ON EVERY HABITABLE CELESTIAL BODY IN THE SOLAR SYSTEM

reddit.com/r/space/comments/5csnsr/trump_says_he_wants_to_explore_outer_solar_system/
Reddit has a predictable reaction but not too negative. Lots of space lovers there who just want NASA.

There's no reason to wait. Nasa's budget is tiny.

Tomorrow night, but your point remains

Pic related

Reddit is predictable as always. They finally get what they've been wanting with space exploration and all they can do is pitch a fit and whine about muh earth science. It's like they conveniently forget that kickstarting space exploration is the fastest way to solve the energy crisis and environmental problems in the first place.

Can you imagine if Trump finds extraterrestrial life on Europa in addition to saving western civilization? He's setting himself up to be a King Arthur type legend.

NASA did jumpstart solar panel research. Any other way they would help with energy?

The main relevant complaint is about SLS (which some say is a clusterfuck) vs private partnership.

Wew I like where these memes are going.

The problem with government policy and NASA is that there's elections every 4 years, yet their missions span decades.

It was inevitable. We know his son comes on here. He probably told him about the meme. About Warhammer. And then the Don's ego kicked in and he said

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Versailles is American clay. San Pietro's is American clay. Let's go to Europa!

TORCHSHIPS SOON, FELLOW CONQUERER
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Asteroid mining for nuclear energy. Orbital solar panel infrastructure once it gets cheap enough to send shit into LEO.

SLS might have been worth it if NASA was willing to let a few people die in order to build it. The biggest reason for the stagnation in space exploration right now is its pussification. Thank God Musk isn't enough of a cuck to be discouraged by a single rocket blowing up.

A lot can be achieved in 20 years, when you put your shekels into a space program instead of gibs.

Amen! I want to see this.

WHERE WE'RE GOING
THE FUTURE WILL BE SO BRIGHT
WE WILL NEED SHADES TO SEE

If Russia and China realize they want a piece of those asteroids before Trump brings back 8 million tons of gold and buys their countries, we might even have a good old fashioned space race. I'm excited.

Since he's about results I expect a good decision from him. Hope he wants to investigate technology besides rockets too (both for launch and deep space).

If the manages to put a WHITE MAN on the moon, all in HD streamed over Periscope and live on youtube, then he has another 4 years guaranteed.

Once trump is in office, I will build my gravity device to prove that we can manipulate gravity waves… and then we can actually do this. I've sat on this thing for a decade after leaving the "education" system, because I didn't want the jews to have something this big. Fuck them all, Trump, be better than hitler. We can tke this reich to the stars.

I look forwards to your contribution then user. It will be glorious!

just duct tape a bunch of em toghether lol

trump, if you're reading this, make me head of NASA

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?

can't wait to race mix with some hot aliens or something

best current year ever

kikes are trying to meme his assassination.

Is it based on Tesla's principals / EM fields?

that he should stay away from lincon continentals

Can't wait to see it.

Godspeed user.

If I don't get dubs it will prove that you are a lying piece of shit.

He should do everything that he can to have Space X land on Mars before his term is up for the ((history books)).

It's too bad that nasa's sole purpose is to create cgi video and images to support the globe earth theory with it's magic gravity that is selective in its force.

wrong timeline friend

Do not abuse Kek like this.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=tm5Je73bYOY

m.youtube.com/watch?v=rOMG4IOfH0I

Checked.

God Emperor Trump

Let's make it happen!

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Fuck off Elon.

I'd agree to pay for it on the sole condition that Elon fuck off to Mars and stay there.

And if he fails, we send him back to South Africa. Or is that too inhumane?

Isn't it getting farther away, by around 5 inches, every year?

HERESY

Nate Silver will be the court jester of Trump's America. Providing useless, fact free, and self-defeating dissent. He will be mocked by all.

He's a tragic story of hubris. He got lucky when he called the 2012 election. He was called a genius by famous people and he believed them. He was wrong on everything this year and still thinks he was sort of right. Sad.

Die in a rocket fire induced oven.

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I've seen a lot of liberals giving 538 credit for this election actually.

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Good luck Elon.

Go away Sinead

but really moon colony by 2020 confirmed?

My nigga

No and yes. The inspiration came when I was studying some of Teslas more esoteric wanderings. He didn't talk in code, Tesla, but he used jargon from outside of his field, lots of sanskrit words. Long story short, I'm exhausted and should had never said anything, but I had the vain hope that someone would help meme me out of this autistic hell where I have all the information to make america supervillains again, but the only people willing to "help" me are greedy fucking jews who want to attach a fucking slave collar around my NECK! You don't collar a fucking saxon brdd american. Fuck you bruce, fucking kikes.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_wave

Standing waves, and an understanding of the concept of polarity are the things that people are missing. They're greedy fucking jews though, leading the universities. They just want ENERGY, fuck them, they'll never get what they desire, and they'll never figure this out because their desire is blinding them from truth.
I sound like a sperg probably, but I'm so full of rage. How do I focus this rage? We have all the tech right now to do this, we have for years, just nobody cross trains, all specialist fools. Memorize as much as can, only able to memorize one tiny field, LEARN NOTHING. Fuck them, any polymath could do this, and the best part? I found the missing details in the art of our own people.

I rambled long enough. If I can get high energy tomorrow, I'll break out my stick welder and find my mercury and see what I can manage on building something, I know i have some copper laying around too and maybe my neighbor can spare some mamgnets, but I'll need some fancy glass I cannot afford for some of it or I'd have mercury gas flooding the block.

Does anyone have the post of the user who broke his wrist while invoking Kek?

He made a prophesy or prediction of how Hillary would be thrown in prison in September, Trump elected, the Jew defeated and we'd conquer the stars. Then I think he broke his wrist a few minutes after the post, would up in Room 11 at the ER with a green smiley face on the door.

Hillary wasn't thrown in prison, but Trump did win. Perhaps Kek broke his wrist and sent him to Room 11 as a way of telling him it would go down in the eleventh month, November, and that things would eventually happen in time.

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WE AMERICAN SPACE NAZIS NOW.

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Fucking checked.

GOD EMPEROR

Maybe he was just a limp wristed faggot?

Does Trump fund eccentric inventors? I want to build the fucking nazi doomsday devices. Fuck I hope I don't die when I turn this on. Fuck you, guy who brought up devices for measuring gravity, because fact is, I'm feeling like the atom bomb guys when they were asking "What if this ignites the atmosphere?" while my problem is … "So, I can effect gravity with this! The more juice, the more gravity!?… or was it less gravity… oh fuck! Which way is this directing? Did my head just implode? wow, boooooom! No fuckin clue, cause fml… and I hate building small…

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Gun-powered space travel, pretty much the most American thing conceivable.

Because John G Trump was the MIT professor that was given them, to explain wtf they said to the feds. Damn that was a fun one to dig up. I remember having to fucking direct people toPBS to get them to believe the fucking source.

>tfw the NSDAP had their sights set on Aldebaran and were psychically linked to residents in the system

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I am ready for our perpetual dimensional crusade for perpetual god and perpetual satan.

WEW LADS

Why would you want to mix with aliens?
When you could fight in perpetual crusades with them.

Good.

Mars is a dead planet as far as we're concerned. Terraforming it would be too much oh an upkeep.

Though, maybe the gravity problem could be solved if we got an asteroid on the belt and set it on a collision course for Mars, increasing its spin and nudging it closer to the Sun like what happened to us with the dinosaurs.

I disagree, if it's redeemable then it needs to be redeemed.
Better to have a backup.

We should treat galaxies and universes the same.

Listen, I just want sandworms. Is that too much to ask?

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That's makes about as much sense as Islamic Feminism.

All the libtards forcing the fear-mongering "Trump will halt all scientific progress" narrative thoroughly blown the fuck out.

Also good to shift NASA's primary goal away from deliberately corrosive marxist tripe like "muh diversity" & make it actually about fucking space exploration.

The best part about this is that the "I fucking love science" reddit-tier liberals will now have to scurry away and come up with some roundabout excuse as to why they still don't like trump.

This is going to happen to the entire Federal government. Trump will appoint some minorities of course, but he cares about results first. He will promote, hire, and fire on merit so affirmative action is dead.

BUT MUH CLIMACHANGE

Exactly. That's why I can't stand the reddit sciencefags. They're basically fucking posers. They claim to love science, but actually all they care about is global warming.

And even then, they don't actually care about global warming. If that were the case, they'd advocate against overpopulation by flooding our countries with brown people. They'd advocate against giving trillions in aid to africa, which just causes the population to balloon. That shit ain't good for the environment.

They're just anti-white kikes who are using climate change as a scare vehicle to shut down our businessses and fuck us over.

Ledditards will defend this because they are either too cucked or too anti-white to talk about the impact immigration has on the environment.

Why can't we just accept it and teach discipline?
It has special properties that help us explore ideas. And unlike other illicit drugs it's not addictive nor overly psychedelic.

I haven't studied that well since I stopped.

Why are you making it about recreational marijuana use? posted about how illegals were destroying national parks, and he provided no argument on the topic of marijuana's prohibition.

It's all about demonstrating how much more intelligent they view themselves to be compared to how stupid they view others. They comb pop science sites because it gives them an inflated sense of superiority. I can only imagine how conflicted some of these shit eating libs are going to be when NASA starts making real progress under Trump.

There will be confirmation of extraterrestrial beings during Trumps time as POTUS.

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having fun with your surface level distractions, goys?

Non/pol/ack lurker here. Just a concerned researcher.
Great unexpected changes tend to bring great emotions. For example, when something they consider bad and unexpected happens, people become stressed and act erratically guided by emotions (something that you can see by the recent elections and the left meltdown).
You see, one of the things that this new millenia has is the vast realization of the open market of ideas. You guys are obsessed with who manufactures the ideas, but you never take a grasp on how big the intellectual production is today, and how easy is to meme anything with the correct megaphones. Even with the controlled media, you can find almost any possible idea, only needing to meme it to make it mainstream by social pressure. Even more, ideas don't have to reflect reality at all. If you can meme and idea or a thought before it becomes real, then you can absorb and avoid the reactions that this new reality might bring.
Why not meme the parallels between Kennedy and Trump? I mean, we will not talk about their political views, hell no, JFK is still a saint in the eyes of many, we don't want to associate THAT with Drumpf, but let's give little tips about how similar they are, i mean, maybe both like going out in roofless cars and anyway there are lots of maniacs out there and we don't control guns so anything bad can happen, i mean with the recent protests and the children, who knows xD…
Remember the big global scandals after Snowden? Me neither. Some random fires here and there, but everything is fine. Once the next scandal came in, we all forgot about it. Look how fucking much we care about our fucking rights! We all already "knew" this was happening, even without evidence, to the point that when it came down we mostly acted as the peaceful herd we are.

We need to take care of the nigger problem first

Spoken like a complete can't into physics fag. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you didn't know the EM Drive has been proven perfectly adequate for long-distance space travel (ie, it's good enough to accelerate to high velocities over a prolonged period of time… in a vacuum).

kys

TESLA'S DEATH MACHINE FUCKING WHEN?

He was mocking the libshits retard, he didn't say Drumpf himself.

Checked.

And that is sound advice… Brexit and Trump's victory are just the beginning. The war is far from over.

Fuck that, were gonna build Orion and Mexico is gonna pay for it.

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We did some tests (as part of Operation Plumbob, if I recall correctly) of how the pusher plate would hold up.

As to the shaped charges, research didn't die, it was classified and became what the military calls 4th generation nuclear weapons design. They can't test above ground but there are plenty of still classified tests, the existence of which was disclosed, into the 1980's. This isn't getting into the extensive computer modeling done by ORNL's supercomputing facility.

If the political will existed, the project absolutely could be resurrected. It's not lost technology.

Cite a study which proclaimed a thrust force higher than half a Newton. Solar sails are also adequate to provide ultra high velocities if you wish to wait a couple years for them if you want to push that angle.

I KNEW THAT AEROSPACE ENGINEERING WAS THE RIGHT DEGREE TO CHOOSE
I'LL BUILD YOU SOME DANK SPACESHIPS MY GOLDEN EMPEROR

AE student fag here. Pretty sure we won't be able to do any cool shit unless your university focuses on space vs planes. Planes are garbage tbhfam.

BSOLUDE
MDMN

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I bet Nate doesn't even have autism. What a useless fag.

Note: The EM Drive produces more thrust at higher velocities due to relativistic effects. The combination of a solar sail and an EM Drive would be a good idea.

Skylon, mangs.

First spaceport will be open ready for the 2020 re-election.

Damn, you have a point. Maybe I shouldn't give up on AE after all.

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Kek. I just started at the age of 25 user, let's do it.

Space = America

To make America great you must make Space great.

It's technically possible, there just needs to be motivation and support to fund the venture.

It took the Juno spacecraft ~5 years to reach Jupiter.

A manned mission to an uninhabitable moon would be intense. I don't think as a species we have developed the psychological fortitude to make that successful, not yet. Medically we could probably induce comas for that length of time but that's kind of cheating.

He's thinking big, I like that.

I've opened that webm a couple of times but the shrieking shrew is just too painful.

Reminds me of this one. This was funny :D

Get busy. The engine will be finished in a few short years but everything else needs developed.

Spacecraft, spaceports, spacestations, spacehotels, spacemining and spaceprocessing industries etc etc

Trump Tower in space, Trump Tower on the moon, Trump Tower on Mars, USS Intergalactic Trump

dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3913916/Hypersonic-planes-inevitable-revolutionise-travel-war-aerospace-military-bosses-reveal.html

ft.com/content/9b1244f6-78f7-11e6-97ae-647294649b28

You have to go back

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What is happening here?

user, genetics doesn't work that way.

It makes a small degree of sense when you consider that the liberals were shitting on him and making fun of him for giving Trump that high of a chance before election night.

TRUMP WILL MAKE THE FEDERATION REAL

NOTHING IS BEYOND OUR REACH
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youtube.com/watch?v=-bzWSJG93P8

I can't imagine how butthurt bernouts will be about that cartoon.

B-BBUT MUH GIBBS!!!!

Spaceplanes a shit

You won't be going to Mars in that. Orion can be done, if we had the will and the capital to do it.

projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/enginelist.php#id--Pulse--Orion

You won't be launching project Orion from the surface, I can tell you that much. You're going to need space planes to even get you to the nuclear pulse rockets. Ideally, pulse rockets will be launched off of the dark side of the moon.

the thing about star trek is that it shows that humanoids all act differently with exceptions and precautions must be taken for every race including those in the federation. It teaches tolerance for those who can operate within the federation and intolerance for those who can't. It truly is the ultimate redpill.

also it references the fucking protocols as the rules of acquisition
rip roddenberry you will be sorely missed.

also notice how you never see a ferengi officer in any of the shows

ITT Post YFW America expands across multiple planets

Apparently water is a good radiation shielding. Radiation halves every 7 cm, so a few hundred feet down and you'll have less radiation from Jupiter on Europa than the sun on earth.
This is the main problem with Mars, since it has no magnetic field to shield from solar radiation, and Jupiter emits a lot of radiation as well.
Europe has lower gravity, increasing industrial efficiency and making further space travel easier, huge quantities of H2O and thus hydrogen for energy and oxygen for breathing, and Jupiter herself can be exploited for further hydrogen.
Additionally, Jupiter has a lot of nearby asteroids and other moons for mining.

This.

We can get to Mars but it'll be a slow boat with not a lot of cargo. Orion will truly open up the solar system.

You CAN launch Orion from the surface. The trouble is laws and other countries being pussies. That said, using Skylon and Space-X style launches to cheaply place the materials in orbit for construction is a viable, though less favorable, option.

My ideal solution? A series of Orion launches- the only planned Orion launches. Say about a dozen large designs, only two or three of which are spacecraft meant to carry humans or cargo regularly.

The other 9 or so launches are just cargo:

The idea is that we use one YUGE push to get the infrastructure up there, then we use Skylon or Space-X launches to lift up bits like electronics, equipment, and personnel. The heavy stuff we build in space from now on.

The advantage of my proposal that outweighs the disadvantages is that it VERY RAPIDLY yields benefits and we can start enjoying a space-based economy almost immediately versus the slow-build option. We all saw the ISS get smaller and less ambitious as construction costs mounted. If we can put all the infrastructure and people up AT ONCE then we can enjoy at least some benefits within a year's time. That means re-election and public support to continue the project- the timescales are more in-tune to the election cycle and the public's attention spans.

Even if you can't launch from the surface, why would you launch on the moon's surface instead? Why not assemble in orbit and launch from orbit?

flat earth fucktards

Spaceships by 2030, MEME IT

Reported for being the only one to talk about that shit.

Yep, I see them as the best choice as well. Moving things from ground to a LEO site with spaceplanes and then launching from there is hella efficient.

Skylon is perfect for bringing lots of stuff up to be assembled in orbit.

Soooo go suck a dick with your spaceplanes a shit.

I'd be happy if he could just get NASA to release true color photos of Mars.

Blow your brains out.

Nice quartic quints.

I'm feeling spacey now.

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Spaceplanes are great for a cheap and easy way to get shit into orbit. They can be used to build bigger ships than would be capable of boosting off our surface here, and they'd be much better suited to building space stations and the such. However for anything else spaceplane's uses start to drop off beyond near-Earth orbit.

Also Orion in itself is kinda shit. Good thrust, but not good for precise orbital maneuvers, that's also not mentioning the fact that you're detonating a nuke behind you just to accelerate. Fusion or just fission powered engines would probably be several times better than Orion.

I mean, have you seen the original calculations?

The above ground testing as of 1951 and after were responsible, among the 3.8 million Americans born in that year, 1,000 cases of thyroid cancer. That's because iodine isotopes were the real concern insofar as fallout goes. So given that, we're seeing 0.00026316% of the population contracting cancer thanks to launches.

This ignores that we've set off 510,300 kilotons worth of yield in terms of above ground testing and global cancer rates have been traced to industrial pollutants and lifestyle as far greater causes of cancer than the testing.

Then we get into options for mitigating fallout dispersion patterns, limiting fission products produced by the propulsion units, etc.

So looking to Freeman Dyson's original calculations and the conclusion of 0.1 to 1 fatal cancer per human on Earth per launch assuming launch from the Nevada desert with no efforts to control for fallout… that's not too bad.

So what's your gripe? It won't kill your population, you aren't launching something that'll generate a devastating EMP, the nuclear devices are VERY small, and a coal-fired powerplant will shit out more uranium and thorium directly into the atmosphere in a year than an Orion launch would.

We build coal power stations all the time and they are 100% guaranteed to increase cancers and a host of other problems for populations running into the thousands depending on the density of urban area surrounding the plant. Are you this vehemently opposed to coal power too or just awesome nuclear pulse propulsion?

Didn't Nevada go blue? Maybe we can push some fallout over the blue areas of the state.

That's actually a great idea. Chase all the lefties out of Nevada with radiation, to make the state go red again.

Voter ID laws would fix things in Nevada pretty nicely without any radiation.

BUT ID'S IS RACIST NIGGA

only blue because of Vegas and just barely still, illegals shipped in by casino Jews definitely tipped it.

Oy, /pol. I need an archive of one of the traitor collection threads from just after the election…

I've seen almost exactly the same in several places. I'm convinced he either sockpuppets or he's got other Jews pushing it as propaganda.

what the fuck is happening in this webm

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Curse those Holla Forums rats.

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It would explode beforehand, Muslims are prone to self-ignition.

Can we meme Muslims spontaneously combusting?

What do you mean? They do it regularly.

Ironically, this could help with a push for any capable white men to be allowed into space exploration. Shit like having women and niggers getting blown is bad PR with the (((media))).

Also, I never realized until googling this picture that there was a kike on board Columbia as well.

*only capable white men

But I don't want it to explode. I want asteroid mining to be a thing and for Cowboy Bebop to happen. Women will only impede us.

Then don't have Muslims, ez pz

Doesn't Europa have seas of methane? What happens if you throw a lighter on it?

YFW MEIN KAISER BECOMES REAL

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Because if you launch from orbit, the thermonuclear detonations will still scatter radiation all over the planet. If you do it from the dark side of the moon, you have the entire moon between you and the Earth. Also the whole EMP thing.

Remember, those were isolated tests conducted in the middle of a desert. These would be multiple nukes. They calculated that 10% of the population would die everytime you launched a nuclear pulse rocket from the surface.

I'm hard. Now without von Braun shilling for chemical rockets we can go to stars.

That's Titan (largest moon of Saturn) that has the methane sea.
Europa belongs to Jupiter and is completely covered in ice with a possible liquid ocean underneath.

tfw ships like these will exist someday

This pleases my 'tism.

Sources, I demand sources for your "10% of the population" figure

I have mine! Straight from Freeman Dyson himself pp. 54, 101-6, 182, 194, 223, 227-231, 234-37, 252

Here's the relevant part, paraphrased from "Radioactive from bomb-propelled spaceships" a still-classified report from June 2nd 1959:

It goes on to enhanced radiation devices, meaning neutron bombs. You can produce more neutrons than just those produced by fission and therefor have a far cleaner bomb. Calculations with the neutron bombs reduced deaths by a factor of 10:

So that leaves us with a pretty acceptable fatality rate, given how many people tend to die in big projects anyway. There are means to minimize the distribution of fallout and computer models for weather and ocean currents that didsn't exist then - they could allow an even greater gain in safety.

As to
We're talking detonations of at MAXIMUM 15kt, 4kt maximum in the upper atmosphere or even Earth's magnetosphere. That leaves us with VERY small EMP effects. Starfish Prime was a 1.4 MEGATON test, so don't go spouting data from that. Orion would likely conduct a burn somewhere over the Pacific Ocean using its 4kt pulse units so as to minimize EMP.

Also
specifically means fusion bombs. Fusion bombs are more efficient in terms of fissionable material used per energy output and fallout per energy output but the feasibly-sized Orion designs didn't use even fusion-boosted devices, much less thermonuclear ones.

Von Braun, later in life, eventually caved and admitted Orion was/is a great idea.

Obviously we would use thermonuclear detonations then if they're more efficient. We can make some fairly small bombs nowadays.

You're probably right anyway. This is shit I vaguely (mis)remembered from the wikipedia page from reading it several years ago.

Also, forgot to welcome you to the ranks of those supporting Holla Forums's favorite spacecraft propulsion system.

Ever hear about the BATTLESHIP version of Orion? No exaggeration whatsoever here, it would have been the most powerful single war machine every built.

Mind you those naval guns fire small nuclear charges called "Casaba Howitzer" which is basically a nuclear shaped charge creating a spear of lithium plasma moving at ~0.05-0.1% of c.

Oh, and the missiles would naturally not all be 20Mt city killers, some would be MIRV'ed, Casaba Howitzers, etc.

Also the vehicle would be as capable of travel around the solar system as any Orion design of that size would be. That means an impossibly powerful warship with the ability to travel to Saturn's moons and back in under a year.

A IRL Star Destroyer capable of completely leveling a handful of continents and destroying any hard target (read: bunkers, ayy lmaos, etc.) that can't somehow survive being hit by a few kilos of lithium plasma moving at relativistic speeds.

No worries, I get autistic about Orion and I hate the knee-jerk detractors spouting nonsense. It's fear that killed our best hope of really making the Solar System OURS. I believe we should fight that ignorance with knowledge.

Speaking of best hopes, can you imagine the MAGA potential of Orion? Think about it, get hard, then write about it on Trump's website. Greatagain.gov

I would like to note that while according to the data you've given me, obviously it's fine to launch maybe one of these. Launching multiple though probably isn't such a good idea, especially since "spreading the radiation over the earth uniformly" is a fairly impractical assumption, especially for blasts close to the surface. What about the environmental impact? Surely nuking the pacific isn't so good for the ecosystem? I was going to say the Japs too, but they're used to radiation by now.

My grammar is kinda fucky here.
I would like to note that while according to the you've given me obviously shows that it's fine to maybe launch one of these, launching multiple*

I need a nap.

Well, consider how irradiated the Pacific already is from waste disposal, accidents, and testing. Then consider the lifespan of the creatures that're likely to be affected. Outside of whales and a generation of long-lived deep sea fishes, nothing lives long enough to really get crazy cancers. I say this as a die-hard "coral hugger" who won't eat certain fishes for environmental reasons.

Launching multiple will be just fine. Launch from a point where weather and currents won't spread it terribly badly and we're good to go.

Seriously, think of the number of deaths from coal-fired power plants again. Think of the number of deaths from any other mega project. They're going to happen, it's just that we can quantify these and we know the upper limits on damage done.

Think about the number of deaths in construction of conventional powerplants, oil or natural gas extraction, ANY kind of mining, cattle farming (there are tramplings pretty regularly), wind farm construction (they happen), and even stupid shit like DIY roof repair.

Now consider those annual deaths held up against something like Orion and what it can do- it's peanuts!

also no worries, mang. I got your point.

Yeah, you're definitely right. Especially with the coal thing. Coal power plants are absolutely abhorrent. I bet you'd even be better off just burying spent nuke rods in the dirt under a nuclear plant than using a coal plant because then at least you aren't aerosolizing the material over a 5 mile radius.

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Not all of us are young enough to make it to that point. Kill some xenos for me.

This is the timeline I want to create.

Fuck you man, original series isn't tumblr/bernie bait. It's redpilled as fuck. The one with baldy lost sight a bit but it's got it's moments. deepspace 9 is far superior to both, please no bully

Just nuke vegas.

Helghan space empire when?

Nothing. You need Oxygen to ignite the methane with.

That being said, a return trip from titan is basically free, just need the oxidizer. The moon is covered in rocket fuel.

No wonder why libshits wanted to slander Trump's German heritage, this man's instinct for greatness is a direct descendant of the spirit German NatSocs had.

Also I better watch LOTGH real soon because I gotta catch up with what's going to be reality in

Why the fuck were the Helghast the villains in those games?
They're not even space Nazis, if I remember at one point their home was taken over and they just want it back.

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Isn't "Europa" German for "Europe"?
Is Trump going to make New Europe?

It happens to be the word for Europe in a great number of languages.

indifferentlanguages.com/words/europe

bump

If you know anything about the Killzone lore you know the Helghan literally did nothing wrong. That's not even me just being a cheeky cunt, they actually didn't do anything wrong. The ISA are a bunch of cunts.

Latin

lmao chem rockets are from ww2, rockets are arguably tech from qing china. nuclear pulse is god tier tech

Failed to successfully invade another planet.

electric propulsion aeroplanes are also becoming a possibility soon as batteries get dense enough
there has also been some interest in renewing supersonic or hypersonic flight again, so lots of interesting stuff going on in AE even outside of rocketry

or not electric propulsion I mean engines powered by batteries instead of internal combustion

That's because NASA has literally become POZ-central in the US Federal Bureaucracy. An incredibly disproportionate number of Stronk Indypyndynts and Gibs of various stripes for an agency whose very lifeblood and mandate is STEM-based.

Today there are simply not enough white men in NASA to keep the thing running well.

(double oxygen digits)

Can't wait to see it, user.

I dream of writing the soundtrack to our journey into the stars. SPACE IMPERIUM NOW

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HEIL'D
Indeed.

Fucking Checked, we ain't using no pussy pulsed nuclear detonation, we're warping reality itself.

Soundtrack for conquering space.

Please let there be blue skinned alien women in space.

Realistically aliens would look more like this than humans
These are all real animals

There has to be some other human like aliens.

Very unlikely.
At the best you'd get something with four limbs that's bipedal.
I don't think you understand how truly different creatures on another planet would be. They may not even function on DNA.

Yes I understand how very different they could be but judging on legends from all over the world about people coming on earth from "heaven" or the "sky" some seem to look like us and other like "demons".

kek

yes john titor = trump.

If we meme hard enough, will Trump abolish presidents?

Make the eyes glow blue.