Why the hell did Arizona reject the legalization of marijuana...

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Just a low-energy troll.

Probably some leftypol fag or some butthurt redditor who found their way here via some news article.

Pls go back >>>/reddit/

sage

hey you fucking retards. i've been on Holla Forums for years now.

i am saying WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU? Why the fuck would you want to support the failed war on drugs? This is not a fucking liberal/conservative issue. It's a common sense issue.

DUDE WEED LMAO BTFO

Uh, yeah, most people here are fascist. That's like, the point.

Mods? Mods? Can someone please get rid of this shit?

bumping troll threads

You too can go back to cuckchan.

so you want to put people in jail for smoking a fucking plant?

Jesus christ, you guys are making me disgusted. I'm an oldfag, too.

Until the Wall goes up it would be stupid because the local economy would be directly competing with illegal imports.

It was the smart move from an economic standpoint.

I didn't know the mysterious hacker known as Aleppo was browsing here. You learn something new every day.

Kill yourself

No kid, we're Maoists.

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Because it makes you an unmotivated nigger, it is actually addictive and it promotes degenerate cultures of all types.

But let's talk about weed culture, for a second. Is there anything more faggoty and degenerate than fucking weed culture? Fuck your herbal Jew.
Some people here on Holla Forums smoke, but the vast majority of people who really want weed legal are degenerate fucking leftists. What good has marijuana done to Colorado or any of the other states that have it legal for medicinal purposes, aside from tax revenue?

This is reddit, this is memes.

They voted for Illary. Too much socialist. Socialism is basicly anti freedom stance. And beaners dealing, they would loose profits.

first post everytime

Kill all stoners.

Blow your fucking brains out, you worthless degenerate.

so it was Democrats who voted against legalizing weed? Millennial Democrats or Baby Boomer democrats?

DUDE WEED

We are the music makers, and we are the memers of memes.

LMAO

It freed up the prisons because its not housing so many nonviolent offenders.

Can you make one coherent argument against marijuana that doesn't depend on ad hominem and speculation?

If you've been here for years, then you should know how useless an argument this is. Might as well have started a cut/uncut thread. I support the legalization of all drugs, but also think stoners are disgusting and a detriment to society. In a far right free market, such individuals will die quickly from starvation/poverty, so whether or not drugs are legalized is irrelevant. Drugs are made illegal mainly by left wing regimes who can't allow their social welfare systems to be drained by drug addicts and right wing regimes that need to maintain the illusion of legitimacy.

If you're believe that there is a left wing and right wing, and that the left wing is defined by the belief that all people deserve equal success, whereas right wingers believe in meritocracy and the fact that your success is defined by your upbringing/motivation/whatever. In that regard, if you're far enough to the right, then it should be irrelevant what people do in their own house, because the only person they're hurting is themselves. The state doesn't need to protect people from themselves, let them kill themselves, laissez-faire, yknow.

You're probably not, but in the event that you are, I'm inclined to believe that pot must not be as safe as you and your ilk proclaim it to be; your mind has turned to mush.

Op is a faggot. Op asked a question got an answer and reverts to butthurt no you

You can go back too.

shouldn't you be in school, kiddo?

By that logic, alcohol should be illegal too because some use it too much because they're addicts.

i don't smoke weed. I hate it and it makes me paranoid. That doesn't mean I am a fucking fascist who wants to make it illegal for everyone. It should be an individual's choice.

YOU HAVE TO GO BACK

is not an answer. Answer with facts and numbers, not vague feelings about what make you uncomfortable.

It should be, the jews tried banning it, don't you remember? They failed, so they gave up and just accept that as a form of population control/eugenics.

These fascists will never understand. They're just a bunch of butthurt faggots who are rebelling against liberalism by going far Right towards fascism.

In real life they are all a bunch of fucking losers because no sane person, either a conservative or a liberal, would support fascism.

I'm a facist and I think it should be legal, and the DEA dismantled.

YOU HAVE TO KILL YOURSELF

Edgy kids itt, i dont even smoke

Fascism and totalitarianism are very different, come on. What people here are proposing is the latter. Dunno what marijuana and fascism have to do with one another.

Unbridled liberalism leads to the detriment of people, and the break down of society. Without a strong and unifying state to guide them, very few people emerge from the multitudes and make something of themselves.

YOU HAVE TO GO BACK

Many studies indicate that pot is addictive and is actually harmful. It also promotes degenerate cultures. It is addictive and it does impair judgement and studies show that it creates a lack of motivation in individuals who use it regularly.
Overwhelmingly, they tend to be leftist in voting and views.

About that non-violent offender bullshit?
I don't know if you know where the fuck you are, son, but I am willing to bet the majority here doesn't give a fuck about niggers slangin' dimes. Good. Keep them in prison. I hope they actually NEVER get out.

[citation needed]

Exactly. These fucking kids don't understand that legalizing weed in AZ would fuck up the economy because a legal domestic operation can't compete with an illegal import operation.

YOU HAVE TO KILL YOURSELF

Obviously pot is addictive and harmful. So is aspartame and coca cola. That doesn't mean anything except that no corporation has been powerful enough to say fuck you to the policy makers and exploit this market like they do every other.

Good luck with that one. Booze is embedded in our culture. Weed isn't.

Prohibition is proof that outlawing substances results in more crime and violence as a black market emerges. It's far easier and more logical to make laws around human nature than deeming it "degenerate". If drinking bleach is legal, so should smoking a medically useful substance.

HOLY. MOTHER. FUCKING. SHIT. YOU. GODDAMN. RETARD.

Smoke day every weed lmao dude

But I'm a Buddhist.

>>>/cuckchan/

Conservatives and liberals have a very fundamental split on how they view the world. The atom is defined as the smallest possible unit of an element that still retains all of the traits of that element. Same with molecules of a given substance. So a water molecule is the smallest possible amount of water that still behaves chemically and physically like water. If you break it down any further, it stops being water. One of the most fundamental splits between conservative viewpoints and liberal viewpoints is their view on the molecule of society. The liberal views the individual as the smallest possible unit of society. Thus, all of their policies and issues stem from this fountainhead. To the liberal, it makes perfect sense that all rights, freedoms, powers should belong to every single individual. Even their more radical stance–the communist reconfiguration of wealth and social structure–is nothing more than a relatively basic and logical extrapolation on this theory of the primacy of the individual. Communism takes “all Individuals should have the same powers, freedoms, and rights” and extrapolates this into “all individuals being totally equal in all things is the only true form of fairness and justice, because any difference between individuals must be injustice.” Thus, we have the creation of things like social justice and cultural marxism, and we come to understand why communism, in spite of being referred to as a “radical” politic, is in actuality only a single step away from what we consider basic modern talking points for liberals. This is, by the way, how you can tell, rhetorically, that all neoconservatives are just liberals who wear red ties, and it is also how we can accurately identify libertarianism as being inherently and fundamentally left-wing. Both neocons and libertarians accept and agree with the core liberal framing that the Individual is prime.
The conservative, however, disagrees. To the conservative, the molecule of society–the smallest possible unit of civilization that still retains all of the qualities and traits of civilization–is the family, not the individual. A family is a group of people who share blood ties, live in the same space, speak the same language, have the same culture, and share the same experiences. To the conservative, a family is a microcosm of the nation itself, because it shares all the same traits that a nation does (and even the same general definition), but if you were to break the family apart into individuals, they no longer exhibit the traits of a nation, because they are alone. This is the fundamental disagreement between conservatives and liberals over the identity of a nation, and it is why liberals have lost the argument. An individual is a lump of experiences and traits without context or frame. To base a nation off of individuals is to base a nation off of nothing, because individuals have next to nothing in common with one another. This is the reason liberalism, having fully incubated into its final rhetorical form, is agitating for the dissolving of all borders and the inclusion into every nation anyone who wishes to be a part of it. To a non-liberal, this is complete madness, but to a liberal, it is “logic” totally in line with their core assumption that individualism is prime.
Conservatives, by contrast, have an infinitely more authentic depiction of a nation. A nation is blood, soil, and the shared culture and experiences of the people who live in it. A family is also shared blood, shared soil, and the joint culture and experiences of the people who are a part of it. Conservatives define a nation not by the individuals who make it up, but rather by the bonds that hold those individuals together. A group of individuals is a family–the smallest unit of a civilization that still retains all of the traits and qualities of civilizations. A group of families is a neighborhood or locale; a group of neighborhoods or locales is a district; a group of districts is a state; and you can either stop there with the nation-state or take it one step further with a group of states creating a greater superstate.

Aspartame and Coca Cola doesn't affect your ability to drive a car or make rational decisions.

Oh so George Washington is a liar now?

Oh man, this meme cracks me up.

Industrial hemp is okay.

But drugs are used to corrupt the youth, alcohol, cigarettes and weed.

>>>/reddit/

yea, they're a bunch of losers who decided to rebel against society by becoming Far Right fascists.

why not just support a monarchy then? A true conservative and traditionalist would reject the concept of a government without a King. Isn't monarchy the only political system that is sanctioned by religion?

even if that's true, it's not YOUR FUCKING PLACE to tell other people what they can and cannot do with their own lives.

Fascists believe in big government. So all of youfaggots are no different than communists.

I fucking love it. “Marijuana has medical uses when dissolved, chemically treated, put in pills, etc. THEREFORE IF I SMOKE IT I WILL GET THOSE SAME BENEFITS SO LET ME SMOKE IT YOU FUCKING BIGOT!” is all they have to say.

show me one that suggests it's worse than cigarettes or alcohol.
NOT AN ARGUMENT
prescription drug addiction far outpaces illegal drug addiction, so you'll have to try better than that.
so does alcohol
the psychoactive properties make it a great medicine for people with a variety of ailments. If you took morphine all day you'd be unmotivated too.
Ad hominem.

And the truth comes out. You don't care if pot is useful or not, you just hate black people.

Cigarettes are bad. Fucking LEL. You must have wimpy little Jew lungs, Moshe.

kek

Yeah, I don't give a fuck about Washington. That's not an argument, whatever argument you're trying to make.

I fucking love it. “Vitamin supplements have medical uses when dissolved, chemically treated, put in pills, etc. THEREFORE IF I EAT FOOD I WILL GET THOSE SAME BENEFITS SO LET ME EAT FOOD YOU FUCKING BIGOT!” is all they have to say.

what fucking right do you have to tell other people what they can and cannot put in their own bodies?

these are just a bunch of super edgy faggots that think Nazism and fascism is cool.

All of them are virgins. No woman would ever touch such a loser.

Oh so the First POTUS isn't a part of our history and culture? You must be smoking crack, nigger. You probably wouldn't be that retarded if only smoked DUDE WEED ROFL.

scientificamerican.com/article/medical-marijuana-how-the-evidence-stacks-up/

No need to commit ad hominem like they do, partner.

PLEASE DRINK CHLORINE AND EAT SODIUM

I know you're a liberal because you're now moving the goalpost. Now I'm supposed to prove it's less harmful than booze or nicotine? That's not where this argument started, son.

I'm not here to debate whether it's worse or better than alcohol. I am here to tell you why it's illegal and should be. I did. If you would care to google the harmful effects of marijuana, I'm sure you'd be directed to lots of good info.

The first fucking POTUS would allow us all to have fully automatic weapons and form private armies. What's your fucking point, retard?

Please read chapter one of "Hitler's Revolution" by Richard Tedor. You can easily find it online or at >>>/pdfs/

>>>Holla Forums
We are going to make abortion illegal again, you stupid bitch.

I'd argue sugar does have an effect on your ability to react, albeit, to the opposite effect of weed.

The global drug trade is made illegal because the profits from it can go straight into black budget projects without any oversight. The end.

You think these child raping murderers made it illegal to protect us and our communities? Do you know how stupid that sounds to anyone with an IQ above retard? I mean, get a grip, folks.

See:

That you are completely wrong when you claim weed isn't a part of American culture, FAGGOT.

Yes. Have some.

Reported for degeneracy.

Reported for faggotry.

The fuck is wrong with you?

I actually like some aspects of a monarchy, but they degenerate quickly, and act in self-serving manners instead of working in the interest of the people. An enlightened despot is in my opinion the greatest political systems a man can hope for, but individuals you can entrust such power to are very rare.

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My point is that you faggots pick an choose little bits of facts and are now saying weed has always been American culture. Not nearly as much as alcohol has. Not even close. Not nearly as much historical reference to weed as alcohol.

To be honest, I misread the post I replied to asking for a citation facetiously as saying "unbridled libertarianism," hence my reaction.

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so let's just keep putting white people and black people and everyone else in JAIL for smoking a fucking natural plant?

You should fucking kill yourself, fascist.

who gives a fuck about culture. You have no right to tell other people what they can and cannot do.

There's not nearly as much history reference to cancer as diarhea, but cancer exists too.

Reported.

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time to abandon ship

any substance with a psychoactive element can be harmful if taken too much, but as far as substances go, there has been no record of anyone overdosing on Marijuana. So the question is why alcohol and cigarettes are legal but pot is apparently too "degenerate" to be allowed to exist?

If the Native Americans that the early colonists met had been smoking weed instead of tobacco, the history of drug prohibition would be very different. Hell, even if William Randolph Hearst didn't use propaganda to slander his competitors, pot wouldn't be illegal.

it's Scientific American, you dingus.

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Yes, because GW was growing 35% THC level sativas and because the "hemp" of the 1700 isn't nearly the same drug it is today.

ITT crybully Communists pretending to be Fascists.

Reported for kike shill.

Plants aren't drugs, Rabbi.

See:

Reported.

Heroin and cocaine are drugs, Moshe.

Sometimes smoke weed degenerate here You should have manned up and campaigned harder for it, faggot. If the people don't want it there, go somewhere else or abide by their rules instead of whining about it like some bernout or hillbully.

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anyone who thinks weed should be illegal or thinks you have the right to tell other people what they can or cannot put into their own body needs to KILL YOURSELF IMMEDIATELY, you fascist communist control freak scum.

Saying you want drugs to be illegal is saying you want a government to tell people what to do in their personal lives. How's that anywhere near "freedom" and "liberty"? Or are those terms only valid when they support things you like?

>>>/liberty/

sage

they larping as fascists, they are actually communist jews. notice how they keep trying to push drugs over plants.

Reported.

Here's another excerpt, please read the book though, it's interesting insight into the Nat Soc mindset. You should also read the NSDAP party platform.

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kek

bananas and strawberries aren't the same plants they were 300 years ago. It doesn't matter.

>>>/rope/

Still not an argument.

this thread is a huge mess, is Jeb! doing all the posting today?

Brain Changes Are Associated with Casual Marijuana Use in Young Adults
sfn.org/Press-Room/News-Release-Archives/2014/Brain-Changes-Are-Associated-with-Casual-Marijuana-Use-in-Young-Adults

Cannabis Dependence
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_dependence

Cannabis Smoking 'Permanently Lowers IQ'
telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9426205/Cannabis-smoking-permanently-lowers-IQ.html

Cannabis Use, Abuse, and Dependence
netce.com/coursecontent.php?courseid=852

Cannabis Use and Risk of Lung Cancer
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2516340/

Cannabis Use Steals 8 IQ Points from the Teenage Mind
westernspring.co.uk/cannabis-use-steals-8-iq-points-from-the-teenage-mind/

Decreased dopamine brain reactivity in marijuana abusers is associated with negative emotionality and addiction severity
pnas.org/content/early/2014/07/10/1411228111.abstract

Effects of Marijuana Smoking on Pulmonary Function and Respiratory Complications
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2720277/

The Health Effects of Marijuana
alcoholism.about.com/od/pot/a/effects.-Lya.htm

Long and Short Term Effects of Marijuana Use
theroadout.org/drug_information/marijuana/long_and_short_term_effects_of_marijuana_use.html

Longtime Marijuana Use Linked With Decreased Motivation, Study Finds
huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/02/marijuana-motivation-longtime-use-pot_n_3534031.html?ir=Healthy Living

Marijuana
en.metapedia.org/wiki/Marijuana

Marijuana May Cause Heart Problems in Young Adults
uk.news.yahoo.com/marijuana-may-cause-heart-problems-young-adults-195750879.html#SFmiiCx

Marijuana Said to Trigger Heart Attacks
news.harvard.edu/gazette/2000/03.02/marijuana.html

Marijuana Smoking Tied to Testicular Cancer
reuters.com/article/2012/09/11/us-marijuana-cancer-idUSBRE88A03720120911

Marijuana Use and Risk of Lung Cancer
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23846283/

Persistent Cannabis Users Show Neuropsychological Decline from Childhood to Midlife
pnas.org/content/early/2012/08/22/1206820109.short

Review of the Validity and Significance of Cannabis Withdrawal Syndrome
ajp.psychiatryonline.org/article.aspx?articleid=177137#SEC6

Regular Marijuana Use Bad for Teens’ Brains
newswise.com/articles/view/621566/

Regular Pot Smokers Have Shrunken Brains, Study Says
latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-regular-marijuana-shrinks-brain-20141110-story.html

Respiratory Effects of Marijuana and Tobacco Use in a U.S. Sample
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1525-1497.2004.40081.x/full

Teen Marijuana Use Linked with Schizophrenia
futurity.org/teen-marijuana-abuse/

Teens Who Smoke Weed Daily are 60% Less Likely to Complete High School Than Those Who Never Use
washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/09/09/study-teens-who-smoke-weed-daily-are-60-less-likely-to-complete-high-school-than-those-who-never-use

The Terrible Truth About Cannabis
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2782906/The-terrible-truth-cannabis-British-expert-s-devastating-20-year-study-finally-demolishes-claims-smoking-pot-harmless.html

Considering GW would have had to smoke 40 joints of the shit he grew to have the same effect of just one 35% THC shit or even 98%pure shatter wax?
Yeah, that's not the same drug, friendo.

It's an argument that you're a crybully. You're crying, and bullying everyone that disagrees with you, kike.

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Its too late, weed has rotted your brain to nothing

Too many beaners to get rid of first.

Oy vey us filthy goyim must wrinkle your cut foreskins, Rabbi. We should totally buy some of your pharmaceuticals instead of using plants!

A good society should lead by example and show a level of caring towards its citizens, otherwise the citizens won't care about society.

I understand where you're coming from, I had a "brownie bite" once and I flipped out for half a day. It's clearly powerful shit. But where do you draw the line? What percentage of potency is not "degenerate"? Is that even an argument?

Not even Colorado lets teens smoke, it's an over 18 product, just like tobacco, which also impairs growth in teens. Your obviously copy-pasted list has no effect.

Relax autist, i'm on your side

see

Heroin and Cocaine are also plant derivatives, Chaim. Are they not drugs?

Not an argument.

Please blow your brains out.

>mfw I voted for this
fight me Holla Forums

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NOT AN ARGUMENT!

Not an argument.

your post was so bad that no one even pointed out your reddit spacing

That weed has rotted your brain kid.

You can't. Because you can always make more powerful derivatives from the buds, there is no line. I think it should be illegal except for legit medical purposes. And if you have a legit medical reason, use whatever percentage and whatever method you want.

It just shouldn't be legal for everyone.

Not an argument.

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Reported.

What weed, child?

Not an argument.
>>>/cuckchan/
YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO REDDIT

Why? Because it effects people's brains, like caffeine, fish oil and tobacco?

Poppies and coca. Yes.

Reported.

Not an argument.

because it affects your ability to make judgements, it's addictive and because long term usage does have negative effects on your brain.

sage

Yeah, they are. Again, perhaps you don't understand how drugs work?

[Citation needed]

Sage is a plant.

WTF DID YOU CALL US!

sage

Already proved you wrong, faggot.

all of these things which alcohol has already proven with a much greater risk of dying. So if people can drink responsibly, why not use pot responsibly?

Google it, nigger. You've seen the studies, you just want me to post them so you can attack them.
You don't need a citation. You just want information you agree with.

fug, sage

You honestly think eating a plant is the same as taking a synthesized drug?

Not an argument.

Already proved you wrong, faggot.

Again, trying to move the goalpost. I never argued about people dying from pot, now you want me to prove that people are dying from pot? Nice try.

Why can't people use pot responsibly? People can't use alcohol responsibly. What makes you think they'd use weed responsibly?

We're not that kind of far right.

Surely keeps them away from it more than if there were no consequences at all.

sage

People always say cartels will find ways against the wall. I think legalisation is the best way to fight them smuggling weed.

Isn't there proof drug use goes down if it's legal? people are more interested in it because it's forbidden and "counter-culture" if it's normalised people won't run around baked 24/7.

sage

No, but indeed those plants are used to make drugs. Therefore your argument of plants not being drugs is flawed because plants obviously do make drugs.
Some plants have medicinal or psychoactive properties. Marijuana does. Coca does. Poppies do. Opium, Peyote, psilocybin.
Not sure what the argument is.

If your viewpoint is that all drugs should be outlawed (prescription and natural), at least that's consistent.

I don't deny pot can have adverse effects if used too much. I wouldn't want a teen or a pregnant mother smoking it. But to deny millions the right to use it despite its medicinal use is throwing the baby out with the bath water.

Did you miss where I said it should be legal for medicinal purposes? I guess so.

Looks like Current Year PM's found his way here.

So you're against people enjoying it?

Goddamn, you argue exactly like a liberal.

I'm against people abusing it. I think the abuse of it would have more negative outcomes than the possible positive outcomes of the few people that would enjoy it responsibly.

Let me remind you that you said you specifically didn't want to deny people medical usage of it.

Now you are arguing that people should be using it for enjoyment.

Do you see how you keep moving the goalpost or are you really that dumb?

It doesn't eliminate the black market, but it does a lot more to help the economy than selling it in the alley. Stores need staff, janitors, suppliers, accountants, management, security and so on. That's money that can be taxed and used for the benefit of the economy.

Did Holla Forums get such a huge erection from Trump winning that all the blood that should being going to their brain or am I missing something

I love the "WHO AM I HURTING THO?" meme. Delicious.

I suggest gathering data to prove or disprove your hypothesis that legalization is a net good or bad in a society before deciding. I on the other hand err on the side of liberty.

Listen here, the economy is never more important than moral issues. Letting the country get doped up on drugs that make you feel happy is a detriment to the nation. Why do you think the Jews want it?

Hey guys whats going on in this thread

Cause then Arizona would be a blue state like liberado.

it's not moving a goalpost, it's conquering one disagreement at a time.

>>>/liberty/

But really, though. Who is really hurt by having this shit legal?

It's not the government's job to legislate morality, only limit the harm people can do to each other. Norms are decided by culture, which the government should not interfere with.
if the Jews wanted it, it wouldn't have been illegal for half a century. That's paranoia.

sage

Kill yourself.

In Europe, there was monarchy from 0 to 500 A.D. and then after that monarchy lasted from600 to 1900 AD, I don't count constitutional monarchy or countries like leeches Stein and I mostly focused on Europe. meanwhile, most European countries are already degenerating after only a century of democracy forced on them by America, for America itself it is only 250 years old and it had a civil war after 50 years because the South didn't respect the Norths freedom to steal from them.

is there a perfect system? Can you name one system where people ab negate 100% for everyone else. aren't the interests of the monarch very closely aligned with the interests of the nation? Nevertheless, once you look into history you realize that 95% of the monarchs where great people who cared about the welfare of their people. you never hear about the majority of kings who had a peaceful realm and how it was stable because of their rule. You only hear about the one King out of a hundred ruling kings at the time who went insane or made bad choices.

Remember that monarchy brought us so much wealth that it made us degenerate. I believe you should reconsider your position on monarchy, you don't need a Augustus Caesar to justify monarchy, all the average rulers who never get mentioned already justify it.

defend your conspiracy theory.

I hope this is a parody.

This makes me regret the hell out of being a degenerate pot head back in highschool

KEEP CRYING BITCHNIGGER

Gas yourself. Of course it is. Do you want a nation of degenerates? That's what you'll end up with. And degenerates like gibs.

What? They want it now. Using your logic, one could say that the Jews don't want feminism because it wasn't popular before the 60s. You are retarded, truly.

Tell me where in the constitution it says it's the job of the government to stop degeneracy. I'll wait.
The prison-industrial complex is worth billions. Why would these Jews want to lessen their "customer base" by making pot legal? Why would the Jews in the pharmaceutical industry want to lose revenue by allowing people to grow and use pot plants for their ailments? Why would the Jews in the cigarette and alcohol industry want competition? What possible motivation could they have?

I started smoking when I was 26 when my irl life essentially ended. If you're young and in school pulling pipes every chance you get you're just a fuckwit that never had what it took to begin with. If I didn't have weed I would enjoy nothing ever, I'll pay that price

It's failed as a document. If it worked, you wouldn't be in this mess right now.

1) It promotes degeneracy, which the Jews will always take advantage of. It corrupts a nation.
2) Jews will swiftly move to make money off this new industry.
It's not a theory, either. The likes of Soros have donated millions to pro-weed causes. It's a fact that the Jews push legalisation of weed.

Weed helps set us free of the zog owned pharmacutical companies. Weed also helped restore me to fighting condition after my service in the USNavy, and at 30 I am in better condition than when I was 18, smoke weed regularly, have a wife, work for myself, and spread dank memes. I even carve bone, and will make us all pipes out of the abundant materials on the day of the rope.

Just because nignogs can't handle their shit, doesn't mean we react anything like they do.

Failed how? Our country's lasted this long. It's not a perfect document but it's a good example of setting rules for the government to prevent overreach.

Not a real thing.
because it's legal, duh. What's wrong with capitalism?
Until we can ascertain why he does, if he even does, we can't say if that's good or bad.

I think 9/11 was an inside job and even I think you're reaching to make up a conspiracy here.

I've been lurking until now but I'm gonna stop you right there, faggot.
The reason why the constitution "failed" us is not because it is a failure, but because the government ignored the rules it set forth and the people ignored their duty laid out in it, which is to kill the government.
Now I will destroy your other arguments.
Weed does not promote degeneracy. Weed does not whisper in your ear that you should misceginate and become a tranny. It's just a thing. It doesn't corrupt anyone - if someone 'becomes' a degenerate from smoking weed, they were already one. You just didn't see it.
Jews will move to make money on ANYTHING. They are financially driven and desire power. Kikes donating money to things doesn't make those things inherently bad, it means that the kikes want to use it to a bad end.

What is your real problem with pot? Or is degeneracy and possible jewish funding all you've got?

Pfft, the majority of the weed industry is small time farmers and backyard gardeners. In WA it's worse than Oregon though, but still, this puts money in the hands of fucking farmers, mostly rural white folk with family farm steads. I know, I know the people.

You are the main ZOG, completely controlled by the Jews and the main promoter and exporter of degeneracy. You're on the brink of social chaos, to the point that civil unrest is a daily occurrence.

You must legitimately be retarded. Are you telling me gay, tranny, and pedo acceptance is OK? Under your paradise, the Jews would be free to make these the norm.

I just told you.

He does, it's on record.

If the Jews want it, it's bad.

I think you must be new. Lurk moar.

If it was an effective document, the government wouldn't have been able to overreach itself. The Constitution is a false god.

You're viewing this the wrong way. If someone who was previously deterred, then smokes weed, they are now a participant in degeneracy, whereas they weren't before. You could argue that on it's own, there's nothing wrong with trannies. The point is, it's bad for society as whole.

True. So why do you support capitalism, a system which allows them to do this most effectively?

Seriously, cuckchan lolbertarians need to go.

Just like using drugs, unless they're having gay sex on my front lawn I don't care. Liberty means free to be you and me.

Also, what's a better economic system than capitalism?

its working

DUDE WEED LMAO

So people that toke a joint from time to time that could be full blown pot smokers are just degenerates for that time specifically when they are smoking or they just passed the point of no return?

People that want to smoke full time and be degenerates made that choice, weed doesn't make it for you and they are only hurting themselves not society, casual smokers are just that it has zero detriment on their lives cause they don't allow it to, this would be the same even it were legal. There is something wrong with trannies and other faggots no doubt but don't put pot smokers in the same category unless its the weed culture millennial faggots

Smoking is bad, duh. Eating it on the other hand has different dynamics

You are an idiot. The document is not what stops the government from overreaching - that is the people's job. The failure lies with the citizenry who've been brainwashed and cucked to the point of not even considering violent revolution. Now I know you are a Eurofag.
Wrong. As I said before, weed is benign. It is not inherently bad or inherently good. You are not a degenerate for smoking something, you are a degenerate if you actively participate in the destruction of civilization. Whether or not weed is degenerate is entirely dependent on what the individual thinks, which makes it different from being a tranny which I will get into.
You couldn't argue that successfully. The suicide rates are enough to annihilate that argument. Trannies are indeed bad for society as a whole because they undermine gender roles. Weed does nothing of the sort, it just makes you high. Like other anons have said, there is basically no difference between having a scotch and smoking a joint. It's the same end result - intoxication. You can argue quite successfully that addiction is degenerate, that dependency is degenerate, that any culture built around drug use will be degenerate (party culture) but you cannot argue that the substance is degenerate. It's illogical.
I never said that, but I'll bite anyway: I don't support capitalism, but currently it is the best system for the distribution of resources. Far more effective than any other. If this wasn't true the US would not be a superpower. Also, again, just because kikes can manipulate something and use it for bad things, does not make that thing inherently evil. You seem lost on this.

Cool assumption. I've been on Holla Forums since the first exodus and I never used 4cuck again after that. And I am not a libertarian either.

pot shouldnt be decriminialized until the NFA is repealed

Smoke a joint dude. For your health :^)

You should care. If that's happening that means it's acceptable. Which means the moral fibre of your nation will be destroyed, and your nation will be doomed to tear itself apart. Also, would you care if that was a young boy getting penetrated? Likely not, since 'muh liberty'.

Third Positionism.

They're now a user, which makes them a degenerate. It's as simple as that.

Yes I fucking will, if it's degenerate, it's degenerate.

And how did this happen? The Constitution should have made more allowances. It's too flexible - SCOTUS is way more powerful than it should be, for example.

Technically, this applies to individual gays, for example. Doesn't negate the effect they have on society.

I'm not. I'm arguing that the usage of it promotes degeneracy.

But free market capitalism is set up in such a way that they can always take advantage of it. Also, it neglects those who have been screwed in life, who really need help. Under capitalism, you'd just tell them to fuck off. These are your countrymen, and as such, you must help them.

Your choice of words is hardly convincing. Smells like a newfag.

Smoke yourself to death, faggot. You're not among friends here.

This happened because of the reason I stated. I'm not laying it out for you again. I will, however, agree that changes should be made. And they will.
Are gays a substance or a different beast entirely?
Funny because what you actually say shows that you think quite the opposite. For example "They're now a user, which makes them a degenerate. It's as simple as that."
What you think, newfag, is of no consequence. I know who I am. Also notice how easy it is to throw around the term newfag. It's almost like we don't really know anything about each other beyond what we say here, and you're just posturing.

the same people dropping $15.99 on a 20pack of Bud Light after work every day?

What's the problem with weed? Does the same thing as alcohol with none of the underlying problems, and USUALLY if you control your habit it's much cheaper. Can't speak for everyone of course, and you all should know that as well as me, but not everyone is a lazy fuck when they smoke, only lazy fucks are lazy fucks when they smoke. I've been climbing in life, and still continue to do so, while smoking marijuana consistently, every day since I was 18 (26 now)

This is what I've been getting at. Weed isn't heroin. It's not going to make you so desperate for your next fix that you rip off couriers and sell your mom's microwave. If someone is smoking weed and doing shitty things, it's not the weed. It's them being shitty.

Not to mention that shitty people, and people who've been broken by life tend to gravitate towards substance abuse anyway, so of course a decent number of people doing any drug will be bad.

First post is always a kike.

Was Arizona voting on medical or recreational use?

Where the fuck did all these weedfags come from? Reddit, cuckchan?

If you love niggers, you're lost. If you smoke Aleppo, you're lost.

I'd never smoke. But legalization needs to happen to kill the cartels and the influence they have had in bankrolling illegal immigration.

GET OUT.

On the day of the rope you will be swinging with the rest of them.

I've been here for a while and I smoke probably too often.
If I don't mention it, which I only do in weed threads or if someone asks, I'm just a normal Holla Forumsack. Why is that wrong? How am I different from someone on here who smokes cigarettes or drinks? Am I really as bad as fags, trannies, commies, and kikes because I combust plant matter and inhale?

Niggers selling it illegally. Don't legalize Cannabis, goy, black people are going to lose jobs.

States rights. The people voted and they don't want it. Move one state to the west if you want pot. This is why states rights are great by the way, all you degenerates can pile into the same state so the rest of us don't have to deal with you.

You're not, they're just as degenerate.

Stop bumping this fucking thread faggots. If I were a mod, I'd find great pleasure in banning weedposters myself.

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you got me

He got me too.

But seriously I'm just saying that having a vice doesn't really make you a degenerate, it's not good but if you're a responsible adult (most people are not) it's really not a big deal at all and you're all fags fuck you

True but at least you could stfu about it. Do you need our blessings to spark one up?

probably all the fucking mormons working in the prisons lmao

AZ expat here, voted Trump and fer the Gunja, wasnt that suprised either way. How was the turnout i remember it generally being low

Damn were there a lot of fucking greenies on the ballot though, pretty much the only opposition, fucking caveman hippies need to get out of my Sonora REEE

Arpaio is out finally, lel, he wasnt as bad as the lefties claim but he was kind of a nutjob. It would be hilarious if trump gives him some kind of position, but I kinda doubt it.

Now that I think about it prison industry mightve actually been a legit factor, im sure they lobbied against it. Cannabis laws are draconian in AZ, its a waste of fucking money, its inefficent and corrupt. If they want to make the streets safer they should help all the mentally ill people in the US and close the fucking cartels down starting with not shipping them arms/letting them tier1 oper8 in our backyard

The word degenerate has been used 39 times before this post, let this be the 40th.

THE HERBAL JEW IS A PANACEA FOR DEGENERATES

But in all honesty, it was probably a private company that lobbied against it because marijuana interrupts their flow of shekels if they are alcohol/tobacco/cigarette companies.

holy shit this thread full of newfags

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all drugs are degenerate
gtfo

you clicked on the wrong link newfriend.
>>>/reddit/

I voted against legalization in California, because my number one objective with my ballot was to mine salt as deeply and greedily as I could.

I smoked for just over 10 years and quit this year. Over the first year I ramped up to spending nearly 15-20$ a day on it, and then over the years (as I was forced to live on my own, and actually budget my life) I cut down to the point that it was maybe 50$ for a whole month. It's a big part of the reason I dropped out of (((college))) and why I fucked up so hard through my 20's. Not that it was entired the fault of weed, but I was beginning to go down a pretty fucking degenerate path… did things (that I'd be hanged for here) that I will be forever ashamed of. Like most vices/addictions/drugs, most people are too blinded by their "wants" to admit that it's fucking them up. There are plenty of studies out there with contradicting conclusions being drawn so (((expert))) studies don't hold much weight to me.

The former libertarian in me still thinks that it should be legalized and taxed (up to the states of course), but there should be no government sponsored "rehab" or anything similar for any drugs. You fuck yourself up, you should be responsible, and alcohol should be the same way. If you can't practice moderation/abstinence, and you have no one around you that cares about enough to help you break an addiction, you are probably a weak, shitty person and deserve your inevitable fate. I don't think it's fair to tax responsible people to house/"rehab" addicts. I guess the counter argument could be that addicts will do anything to get their fix (commit violent crimes/theft/etc) and should be in jail anyway, but the average stoner retard doesn't usually take it that far (beyond begging mom or dad for money), that's more of a crackhead/methhead/severe alcoholic type of behavior.

I have a few beers a week, but I'm going to try to be completely abstinent by the end of this month. been cutting down on cigarettes too… these shits are terrible and I need to practice what I'm preaching here and give them up asap, but it's fucking hard. DON'T SMOKE Holla Forums

entirely* the fault of…

turtle wins?

Dude weed

>>>/cuckchan/

You did that yourself, why are you giving credit to weed? Imagine how much better you would be doing if you weren't spending your time chasing an artificial high.

I don't talk about it except in threads like this one, so no. I don't. I know most around here are against it and I don't care but I also don't want to see Holla Forumsacks getting divided and fighting because one puffs on something and the other doesn't.

this thread is fucking hilarious

A) all these newfags in from r/trees, le-mao, seriously, where the fuck did you come from??

B) all these fucking armchair authoritarians getting all huffy and puffy about some wacky tabbackey, you niggers need to smoke a junt or better yet fuck. It should be a non-issue, its a waste of taxpayer money and it provides the majority of funding for some of the biggest cartels, nevermind all the taxes you can make off of it.

People will smoke weed lmao. it is what it is, just like people will drink. The establishment has been letting americas enemies use this against us, be that the cartels or the kikes that sit on the boards of private prison companies

MORE POWERFUL WEEDS

Shut up nigger, dont spout unscientific garbage, "there is no line", gtfo. Some retard eating 1000mg brownies isnt gonna get that much more baked than eating half the amount, there very much is a line, even when you ingest which is by far the most volatile method, it can knock you on your ass.

Cannabis and its derivatives arent opiates numbnuts dont pipe in when you dont know what the fuck you are talking about.

Because the good people aren't burn out losers like you, OP? Fuck off with your Jew Cancer.

You articulated this better than me despite your typing being shit. +1 upboat

fuck off
I don't condone smoking, but I condone the gubment controlling this shit even less.

It's not about them controlling it, simply decriminalizing it is plenty you autist

Also, simply saying degeneracy is not enough. You need to provide evidence or at the very least logic as to why

Would you also like proof that water is wet?

Maybee thats cause im kushed out on dat shatter holmes ajajajaja ese 7/10 uptokes lmao fellow ent

im actually not, I will occasionally partake

The best smokers are the kind where you literally have no idea they are one until youve already known em for awhile, i.e. you cant tell from dress, mannerisms, company, work or anything and are all "nigga wat you smoke?" when it eventually comes up.

They can be very interesting people and have basically proven they have control over it because its not part of their identity. If you smoke all the goddamned time, its not actually changing your perspective, which is the main benefit and what people actually mean when they say "hurr it makes me creative", although they often dont realize it

It is a great social lubricant, especially when travelling. Sure liquor probably more likely to get you layed but you go to a new city and find the right person to smoke a junt with, you might get access to a whole other world that you would never see as a tourist, its happened to me many times. Those are my best memories cannabis related. I wasted some time on it but honestly other things have fucked me way more, sure am glad I dont smoke everyday though that shit just drags you down or at least it did me

We don't need anymore low-t degenerate fags walking around accidentally locking their kids in cars during the day here

Everything is harmful
Also, prove that cannabis is harmful, not smoking it but just cannabis itself

I will take people harming themselves a bit (way less than many other things that are legal btw) than jews making money. Also getting killed or put in prison is more harmful.

I'm sorry to samefag so much but these are some autistic non-arguments.

The important thing is NOT that it's "part of our culture", the important part is that alcohol is a PART OF EVERYDAY FUCKING CHEMISTRY.

Take fruit, apply time, you now have alcohol.

The government should never have laws that it can not properly enforce, it harms the legitimacy of it. Another reason why cannabis should be legal - it's not possible to properly keep it illegal. Some schedule one drugs like GHB and DMT are actually made in our own bodies.

I give zero fucks about weed. Completely apathetic to the issue.

Although it is undeniable that by and large weed culture is absolutely degenerate. I would say the culture around weed is far more degenerate than the actual weed itself.

Yes alcohol and cigarettes should also be illegal.
It will if we go Duterte on them.

Carriage return

Carriage return

Carriage return

Carriage return

Carriage return

If your concern is peoples health, how would killing them improve it

Also what about unhealthy food, soda, overuse of salt? Lack of exercise? At a certain point of being the borg you lose your identity of a nation and become a drone. Theres no point

Shut up faggot, life hurts your body unless you are sitting at home becoming weak behind a screen you cottage cheese ass nigger. Youd have to be a fucking wine sipping yuppie to say something retarded like this, next you are gonna be berating people for second hand smoke you fucking birkenstock homo, fuck off with your organic muffins and pull yer pants up, I can see your panties

How would a fucking road worker feel when you tell him he cant smoke a little green to get the noise of a jackhammer out of his head after sucking up exhaust on a highway?

This pussynigger shit triggers me greatly, its not even about the reefer, stop being such a goddamned snowflake nigger I would put my hand in a fire that youre a fucking PoG and have never worked manual labor in any serious capacity

Yep, we're being raided.

It would improve the health of the average person in the nation, I don't care about the degenerates themselves.

NO DRUGS, NO ALCOHOL, NO CIGARETTES

Can someone provide an actual argument for why marijuana shouldn't be legalized, rather than flinging shit at one another?

This guy knows.

What's alleppo?

so would banning any food that isn't soylent green
And you still have yet to link to anything proving cannabis is bad for you (cannabis, not smoke)

yeah, no, youre a faggot. Youve never worked, youve never humped a pack or had to do anything mildly disstateful, you probably havent really contributed to anything, yet here you are telling people they cant have a fucking cancer stick to get through their shitty day.

most unamerican thing ive seen since…well all those faggots bitching on twitter over trump probably

kill yourself nigger, yer probably gonna live way too long

Yes. Cannabis is good. We're gonna update our avatars to weed leafs to show our support. Welcome to Holla Forums. Debate closed. Weed wins. Thread closed.

thats very funny user

So you'd be fine with banning smoking it then?

You argue like a liberal, all you do is kafka trap on an anonymous imageboard.

Yes. I ironically posted that picture. Adolfo Hitleru was uniballed, cocaine injector, meth snorter who started WW2 as a result of a failed bet with his fellow druggies. I agree with you. You win. Thread closed.

Drugs are harmful to the health of society. Man should seek peace inside himself and in the bonds of his community. Use of drugs indicates man or his society has fallen ill. If we can remove drugs, man will be forced to confront what is wrong and advance. Drugs promote stagnation and stagnation is death.

No, I was just arguing against his logic. I don't think anything should be illegal if it doesn't affect anyone except the person doing it. Then again I'm a lot more lolberterian than most of Holla Forums. That being said, being anti-cannabis is just retarded.

yeah, no, still a faggot. you should take your anti-smoking campaign to americas hopefully soon to be manufacturing hubs you meme-tier nigger, see how well you fare with real people that actually make shit on the 9 to way after 5

thats a low fucking blow there buddy what the fuck is a kafka trap literally never heard of it, brb

Cannabis doesn't do those things though. Are you saying we should ban anything that affects you chemically, because fast food and caffeine do more to hurt society than fucking cannabis does.

DUDE WEED LMAO

Pls, no more arguments. Let's go chill on our sofas away from the monitor for a bit and light up a blunt, eh? You win. Thread closed.

It absolutely does.

What you do affects others, not just you. Individualism is a fucking cancer to the community.

I voted against it because I want you faggot potheads looking over your shoulder every time you light up. Kids should get a criminal record for getting caught with it. And we don't need any more dumb ass libtards in this state.

He wasnt always a druggie but he was at the end, theres no denying this and it makes perfect sense+explains many things. The cocktail his overweight crackpot Leibarzt was giving him was insane.

I know more about Hitler than you do nigger, Im not some fucking revisionist babbling about the holocaust. Dont fucking sugarcoat people you look up to, its a coward move, it makes you sound like a liberal

I voted yes on 205, No on minimum wage raises.

I only voted yes on 205, mainly because I know several guys who run some local businesses who would have expanded into full blow shops, but I guess since it didn't past, they'll settle for running a medical shop.

I don't personally partake though. But from what I hear, a lot of the vote came from people running medical shops, who are afraid of the competition of normal shops.

That's just what I "hear" though.

I'm actually kind of glad, I was worried about the commiefornia runoff voting that shit in.

Yes, I agree. Wew, all this winning got us tired. Let's hit back away from our keybord and have some good time, eh? Thread closed.

Burden of proof is on the person making the claim bub

So who gets to decide what we ban and don't ban? You specifically?

you cant magically close threads with the power of abstinence nigger, although id be suprised if this one doesnt dissapear soon given where its going. I for one am enjoying myself, lets talk

The tribe as a whole, if it decides to support it I'll abide by the decision.
we're occupied by a foreign tribe that is actively hostile to our own.

haha
It's worth noting that because there is no such thing as truth or right in man and government this is a non argument.

In a way yes, we need a people who are not lulled to passivity by the chemicals added to foods.

I want our people to have real food, clean water and the culture which gives them opportunity to work and make themselves better and worthy, in order to propagate with a family.

Your average white man and woman think working tirelessly is more important than raising a family. I want them to be angry with the system they have found their way into, in order to break out.

Dude, obviously these /pool/es xD can't handle our bantz. We're arguing against a wall. Wasting time. Just chill back a bit and light up a green one for me, eh?

back to reddit, faggot

So then why are you shitting on people wanting to vote to make it legal? Seem counter to what you just said. Also, I see no reason why you should be against it, for the reasons I outlined before. You are literally killing your countrymen so hispanic cartels and jews can make a profit.

Are you aware of how burden of proof works?
Does that mean anyone ever arguing for or against something is using a non argument? There is no thing as truly right so there is no thing as an argument?

Doesn't the wall also help Mexicans?

Right now the cartels who run Mexico allow their people to flee instead of rising up against those which kill and mutilate them.

Trump's is such a nice person, he's going to make Mexico great again as well with his wall. And he'll get Mexico to pay for it through the articles of NAFTA.

Just bought an ounce of blue dream off of my Trump loving, Republican weed dealer.

Make America Giggle Again!

Food has chemicals naturally, even natural real food. Should we ban every single past time which people enjoy if it affects the way they think or their brain (every hobby that is)? I agree with most of your reasoning but I just think that A you're having a reactive, knee jerk argument to faggot weed culture and not looking at things objectively, and B don't understand that government shouldn't legislate these kinds of things even if you're against them because that can only make things worse

I've never seen anything more pathetic

The wall will help them but for a completely different reason than you say. It will help them because it will help us economically and we are their main source of trade. The cartel members aren't fleeing the gov, they basically run the country over there and go in and out. Something does need to be done about those fuckers though. That's actually a huge reason regular hispanics come here, to escape them. Another important thing you need to realize is like only 1/3 of illegal immigrants from mexico are mexican, the majority of them are from farther south. Helping mexico become less poor while building the wall will reduce immigration because they'll settle with going from Guatemala and other places to Mexico, a big step up for them.

this isnt even about weed+lmaos anymore you fag, this is about you wanting to tell people that actually contribute to society what they can and cant do to themselves, case in point the retard above redtexting about no smoking le-fucking-mao

haha
There are as many right ways to live as there are people on the earth. So then, if there are so many right ways to live, who decides the laws? The strongest do. The strongest enforce their justice and the rest live under it. Or did you approve every law that rules over you before it enters the books?

We argue from our strength. Not from our perceived correctness. This is why no redditors like yourself can convince us of anything.

Dude no, we only hang criminals.
Degenerates get the bog treatment, your skin will last forever!
Stop by anytime.

smh I grow my own tobacco, excellent disinfectant, and make my own Vodka with the grains that I grow, not to bad tbh.

I'm an egoist, if you know what that is, so I don't disagree with might makes right, but were you aware that convincing people to be on your side is increasing your might? If 99% of people want to make cannabis legal, they are the strongest, you faggot.

Who smokes weed? Niggers and SJWs. Enough of a reason to forbid it (so we can jail them for possesion).

What are you talking about? I was saying how there is no point arguing against anti-weed legalization, since obviously they are low IQ.

Were you just pretending? Am I being trolled? Fuck you for preventing weed from being LEGAYLIZED!!

Not if they don't have the guns :^)

also
Guarantee I've been on Holla Forums longer than you faggot. Wanna know how? I know only people recently from reddit say >le go back to reddit
:')

LEGALIZED*

Sorry, hard to type while being this #BAKED, amirite?

It's the same reason why Holla Forums has challenges with vidya, if used to strengthen competition and hand-eye coordination and tactics that's great but if its just to escape the real world, that's bad.

What do you get from smoking weed?

I grow my own tobacco but I use it as a disinfectant, I'd never light a cigarette and am not addicted to the substance because I only use it when I need to.

lmao if you're trying to ban something you have to be the aggressor, good luck overcoming pipebombs on the offense. Also, you're sadly mistaken thinking the majority want to keep pot illegal. Even more incorrect in thinking no one who likes pot or liberty or not supporting cartels and jews has guns. Just stfu

Ten bucks says those people are perfectly ok with alcohol.

Drinkers should be shot.

As someone who has attention problems, I find it works very well. It is also a much more effective pain reliever and much less addictive than pharma. That's another thing, idiots supporting big jew pharma instead of local grown cash crop

You're probably also a Christcuck and enjoy your evenings psyching yourself out with how superior you've become thanks to your discipline and disdain for indulgence. Whether or not the struggle actually benefits you is another matter entirely–something whose subtlety will always escape you.

Marijuana is degenerate!
Beer is degenerate!
Masturbation is degenerate!
SO LET'S SET THEM ALL ILLEGAL
Because your rights end where my feelings begin, you know?

Weed is already illegal so no we don't. You potheads are to weak, apathetic and dead inside to do anything. You'll continue to cry about dude weed lmao and muh rights until you're in the grave.

Thats a weird way to say nigger

And that's just for medical reasons. I've you've never done it, I would say it is quite fun with minimal downsides. Isn't enjoying life a good thing, both from the standpoint of the individual and society?

Also it can be used to take people off of actual hard drug addictions quite easily.

You said it much better dude, Trump is such a great man.
How could anyone really be angry with him, besides the Jews, he really wants to just help everyone, it's like he's another Adolf Hitler.

Then why is it getting legalized all across the country as time goes on faggot :')

Beaners "Americans" cant grow weed for shit. Might as well stay illegal.

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There you go. You were a degenerate before you put your lips on that fag.

Jesus K. Christ on a stick, so fucking tacky, I bet you felt so deep writing that, probably thought you were pulling a real fucking hemingway.

So what youre saying is youre a dogmatic valhalla nigger retard that doesnt understand how to force multiply and apparently somehow thinks feudalism would be preferential to western civ?

You are almost entirely alone with these sentiments, so you dont look very fucking strong from here buddy. The strongest and the smartest are those that know how to adapt and shape their environment to their will, using a wide array of strategies and tactics

I see very little of that in your post, sun tzu the yellow devil is probably laughing at your from the aether

False, Americans revolutionized cannabis with hybridization a few decades ago, and grow the best in the world. Beaners grow fucking dirt weed . If you don't know about a subject, don't talk

I've reformed user, I've repented, I swear. I'm down with the idea of homegrown tobacco, and an occasional shot of home-made liquor sounds nice.

Also why are you bumping this? Why is anyone bumping this? Obvious divide and conquer tactics going on here… also this is either a raid or there have been a ton of closet DUDE WEED LMAO's waiting for a thread like this to come along.

nigger do you have any idea how big the lobby has become? how much success they have had? Youre fucking delusional, the problem is that all potheads seem to care about is legalizing pot, kinda like how the faggot lobby only cares about faggot issues..

your "argument" is still shit and you should feel shit

what kind of pleb do you take me for.
Also, I have attention problems, no actual disorders. I don't have attention for things I don't find interesting and have an obsessive amount for things I do. Cannabis helps on both ends, mellows me out. It is literally medicine helping me be less degenerate. It is like that for a lot of people.

Because I was definitely talking about Americans. Canada grows better, anyways.

haha

haha

If potheads could do anything worthwhile they would have gotten weed man elected or gotten stable jobs that aren't minimum wage cashier in a gas station.

Jesus, Freud. I'd wish you died before you killed language.

I bet you also believe people fapping to lolis prevent them from partaking in paedophilia.

Canada most certainly does not. Most of Canada has shit weed. BC grows some real good shit, but still isn't better than the US. Their prices are cheaper, but only because it's less illegal there.

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Just because we want pot legal doesn't mean we are gonna vote for a fucking cuck over the god emperor. Now you just sound retarded.

Funny you say that. In the same way pot being legal actually prevents people from doing it as much because it isn't seen as rebelious, having lolis legal will give a way for pedos to fulfill their desires. Also
Pedos should be killed, so it kind of makes what I said above moot, but still.
You can't just call it degenerate with reasoning. If it helps both the individual and society, in what way is it degenerate?

This is a very compelling argument, and I agree with you. However, this raises several challenging points: what if you disagree with your family's expectations for you? Some will say to you this: You will not use the internet in my household (even if you're over eighteen and paying rent). Does this sound outlandish? Well, I suppose it does, but it really only has one solution: move out of the house. Well, that does seem to break up the family unit, doesn't it?
I see an issue here over how one can argue, morally, any rule or law as being unfair when, ultimately, it is others' expectations of you that take precedence over your freedoms.

And if your argument is that households with extended family members or adult offspring present is degenerate or something ("d00d, why are you still living with ur mom, bro?"), then "family rule" apparently only extends to legal minors. Letting your family have final say over what you do just because you live in their household is not reasonable. The same applies to a nation.

For instance, what if the (then nationalist) nation outlawed your being Holla Forums, because it was seen as degenerate? How would you make any argument when your assertions of how good Holla Forums can be is held as problematic by your nation at large?

And to be clear, I'm not a libertarian–I'm a national socialist.

No you aren't.

Why are you still here? Go back to wherever you came from and be an idiot there.

Nice argument. Are you a shill or a bot?

make me, mister "we the strong"

nice job with that post bub

you just hate being proven wrong huh. Every one of your posts ignores arguments and just says "cause I said so". Why don't you lurk and figure out how to make a cogent argument and come back.

How old are you?

Why can't you use proper grammar?

Don't let the shills and ignorant win. Weed is good, and has been grown by our ancestors for fucking millenia. Fuck the naysayers and shills. Just trying to divide us.

This board is going to shit. Only shills and bots argue about shit like this. You remind my of STS entities.

I swear, I'm seeing way more shills and AI bots derailing threads over
I don't know why I bother.

Check my ID, and you'll find I was arguing on your side.

I didn't make one grammar mistake
If anything I was just lazy with the punctuation.

Calm down, I was just breaking your balls because you fucked up the post. I know you're on my side, and it wasn't supposed to rile you up this much.

Even more delusions, youre ridiculous bruh, you have nothing, you probably barely understand partisan politics, nevermind geopol. You bend reality how you want it to be. I dont give a fuck about the pot lobby, but theres no denying how successful it has been especially if you think pot is a tool of the jews or something

anyhow have fun larping nigger, STRONK

I said you dont know what strong even is faggot, especially in present year+1. Big difference

Calm down luis, if there has ever been a need for zany freud shit its you, I hope you dont work with kids. Does your mind always go there when you get rustled? have you been involved in #SpiritCucking?

No, your grammar is generally at an 8th grade level tops. You also post like this is an in person conversation or some sort of forum. You're mistaken though. You people don't belong here and should quickly leave.

Your post formatting and grammar is even worse. You're also at the bottom of the barrel intellectually but believe you're much smarter than that. I'd say you are in your first or second year of high school at the latest and have yet to realize how low you really are in the hierarchy.

I posted my anecdote and saged. Then I made one reply and pointed out that the entire purpose of this thread is divide and conquer, and saged.

Whether you are for it or against it, the only logical conclusion here is that some of you are going to have to agree to disagree. This is such a trivial topic in the grand scheme of politics, especially right now. If you faggots want to keep arguing, at least sage so something worthwhile (syria thread? something voter fraud related or wikileaks related?) can move one spot up in the catalog.

show me one mistake I made faggot. I'll wait.

shut up, sage negated. If people want to discuss something let them.

You also make it too obvious that you're still a child.

I'll say it again
DUDE WEED LMAO

Look potheads, I used to smoke a lot in my teenage days and early adulthood. The reason why I'm not for legalization right now is because I remember damn fucking well how 99% of stoners I knew back then were complacent, unmotivated, apathetic, emotional people with a lack of forethought and most still had the maturity level of when they started using more than occasionally. Most of them could also be manipulated by people who used their relation with the plant and their unstable emotions to make them take decisions who are either detrimental to others in the short term or even to themselves in the long term. We are living in a time where action and pragmatism is needed. The kikes are trying to slowly remove us from power and genocide us for fuck's sake. Our economy is going to shit, job prospects are low, unemployment high and the only way to fix them accoriding to most pot activists I've followed through the years is to sacrifice our people's might even more by making their tool of complacence legal. It's like all they fucking care about is weed, fuck everything else. It's as bad as faggots who's only focus is LGBT rights and muh dik. If we were in an homogenous community without prevalent parasitism trying to undermine us every which way possible, I'd have no problem with people smoking all they want and experimenting with their mind but right now, as is, we need a population that is extremely vigilant if we're to survive and still have our nations in the long run. Western civilization does not need a bunch of apathetic whites who eat like 4, sit on their ass watching retarded kike entertainment and who's only motivation in life is a plant that gives fuzzy feelings and gradually get numbed to the cancer that is killing western society.

bwahahah hes actually going on about grammar this is fuggin gold

No you cant buddy, you couldnt even guess what fucking country I went to school in, you just have autism and are bootyblasted because of how dissonant many of the things are that you believe

I enjoy spacing.

I enjoy occasionally shitting up this place, epecially when I get to argue with tards like you

dude

we

ed

lmao

It is a trivial topic, but this thread is not about weeds or lmaos anymore, possibly dudes

actually it very much is about lmaos

I didn't say stop discussing it, I just said stop bumping it. I've got plenty of threads open right now, I'm advocating that a DUDE WEED thread does not deserve a higher spot in the catalog then something like the Syria general, and you fucking know it.Trying to argue for weed here is not going to get you anywhere, everyone goes in circles, much like a typical thread on religion devolves into utter shit.

etc….

this 100%

you are a piece of shit

I'm gonna stop replying to you now faggot

That is predicated on the fact that making it illegal prevent people from doing it. Barring the fact that it helps jew pharma, jew prisons, and cartels (run by jews)

do you understand what sage negated means?
And also, that is only because of disingenuous faggots like who refuse to use logic. I'm open to an actual debate, it doesn't need to go in circles. If anything, a lack of logic and cogent arguments like the poster I linked to are the real degeneracy

With the right conditions this is totally possible.

haha

neither does shamelessly glorifying it in the (((media))) and actively neglecting to enforce the law

by your logic: we outlawed murder but people still kill each other better legalize it

You act and type like a fucking libcuck

And if it was legal it would finance CannaJew™ while acting effectively as a euphoria inducing SSRI that doesn't need a prescription or a visit to the doc. There are a portion that won't smoke weed exactly because it's illegal and because it,s tested for in multiple work environment. That's another thing, even if it were legal I'd all be for mandatory testing for even tiny fractions of cannabis metabolites for a lot of jobs, including anything related to politics.

Psychedelics and weed should be legal

There's absolutely no reason to keep it illegal except for MUH FEELS arguments

that was heartfelt, I can respect that. Youre not wrong but I deserve some r&r here, after the long drawn out election campaign

I was convincing fucking bonafide commies to vote for trump, I wont even utter the places ive been, very nasty. Just practicing my godgiven right to shitpost, ill move along soon so long as I dont get anything too juicy thrown my way

This thread is really ITT neocons

Do you? I'll explain it since we are being "logical"… you type "sage negated" when you want to bump a thread, after someone else has saged, to show that you think the thread deserves attention and a higher catalog position, which you did not do in the post where you replied "sage negated"

There is no such thing as a small murdered. On the opposite side people should not go to jail for small amounts of pot. Jail should be a place for violent criminals, such as those committing murder.
Another reason that comparison is retarded is that the reason making it illegal doesn't prevent people from doing it is because it is easy to hide, murder much less so.
Murder hurts society, pot does not, which means the people generally don't care about pot and don't care about enforcing it, unlike murder
All in all that comparison was a swing a miss

Hemp as seeds and for clothing is great, but marijuana has to be banned and stopped.

Not if you decriminalized it but not legalized it. I can see why you would be against a cannabis corporation, but that has no bearing on an argument on individual use.

What I see in this thread is a few anarkiddies and lolbergs throwing a bitch fit about their hedonism while some natsocs and fascist try to resonate them and shitposters.

So OP is an autist, probably libertarian, trying to pass off his legit weed addicted stupidity as "lol I'm just shitposting bro lol"

there is a difference between negating a sage and negating a politicized sage. I wasn't doing it to bump it specifically, but to tell you stop trying to end the discussion, if people find the discussion to be interesting/worthy of discussion, why not bump it?

user pls

I'll make this more clear because you can't get anything through that young skull of yours. That statement is 100% opinion, and
is 100% false, otherwise weed would be legal right now in more than a handful of states.

Your biggest problem though is that you don't understand what the law is. I'm tired so here's a simple anime explanation for you. Maybe one day when you grow up you will understand why people want to protect what they value.

There is not one single reason to keep marijuana illegal. Bump to get someone please explain to me why they think it should be illegal

DUDE WEED LMAO
As an Arizonan I voted no to spite you weedfags.
HAHAHAHAJJAJA NEVER WILL BE LEGAL DEGENERATE SCUM AHHAHAHAHHAAHAHA 53% NO WE WIN

OP THE NIGGER CANT BECOME A DRUG DEALER NOW HAHJAHAHAHHAHA EAT SHIT FAGGOT

Decriminalization and legalization the way it's planned out to be is a fucking shit show, believe me I'm seeing with my own two eyes (I'm Canadian). it's all a scam to make the kikes in power develop a monopoly on it. Jew producers with government permits for medicinal are currently sending cops busting their goy competition in distribution and production. The only non kosher people in this who are not getting their shit pushed in currently are those who remained on the black market and laid low.

We live in a jew world you fucking retard. i guess weed turned your brain to mush. Everything you didn't produce with your two bare hands have had a kike involved in it some way or another. You're a fucking lolberg who can't do shit but cry "you're not a natsoc" when you get called on it. Giving kikes a new tool to make white complacent is exactly what they want, that is why they are pushing for those slow legalization laws. They just want to make sure they run the industry before it's unveiled.

The truth is, Zona isn't full of faggots.

Man, I reminisce upon my days of exploring the high desert and having revelations of a mystic in the high energy vortexes.

At least I got away from those spics.

I'm sure a hell of a lot really agree with you. It should be a matter which is up to the individual without Govt. influence. Legalizing weed also fucks over the cartels. I am not personally much of a fan of weed but the only Trump supporters I know enjoy weed now and again at parties and I enjoy their political views.

That's why I'm pro decriminalization and not legalization. There is a difference you know

Not in anything that matters.
Yeah, maybe it would be easier if I made it into a picture book for you?

Canuck pls just stop, I should have stopped reading when I saw "I'm Canadian". I feel like an idiot for giving you the benefit of the doubt and finishing it.

lol shut the fuck up drug abusing lolberg.
ENJOY YOUR PROVEN LUNG CANCER

Back to cuckchan

Yes there is you fucking autist. It's the difference between the decleration people will no longer be put in jail for it and the setting it up as an industry with regulations that can be lobbied for monopoly control. You are so new it hurts.

pPPLLZZZ STAAHP I promised I would go away

You need to stop watching that jap shit nigger, its gonna turn yer brain to mush. The vast majority of law is about property first and foremost. Its about capital, its about keeping society functioning and settling disputes in a coherent, rational, unbiased manner. its a pillar of western civ. Theoretically it should be about justice, and sometimes it is. Thats abouts as far away as you can get from your fucking feelings, lady justice has a blindfold on for a reason you arent supposed to tug at her fucking heartstrings you fag

picrelated is what you get when you let closet western liberals like you make laws with their fee-fees

My point wasn't really that it was a shitpost as much as it was no one cares about the opinion of a Canuck.

You're also stuck on a loop, you made that same argument at least 3 times while interacting with me. I've argued with kikes that did exactly what you're doing by the way.

Because burgers with their Jewish masters sending them everywhere to serve Israel have better opinions?

because you never answered it you fucking idiot

Have this

I'm not personally a fan of weed as I stated. I do enjoy magic mushrooms though. I'm sure I could argue that drinking alcohol or being addicted to video games or anime is a worse sin.

You argue it is proven lung cancer, well it doesn't affect me much there but it is buyer beware. The risk is on the consumer completely. No reason for it to be illegal however. Do you think all recreational activities should be illegal based on the risk posed to the user? I guess you also think cigarettes should be illegal?

If you merely dislike stoners why not just hope society regulates it by making it socially unacceptable to wander around in public stoned as it is to do the same thing completely drunk.

What is interesting is who voted against it though.
Additionally I am sure cigarette companies are taking note. Just as they often control who can grow tobacco they may take similar steps here.

I can get pot easy by just calling a dude right now, but i would much prefer if part of the money were going into infrastructure, maybe even [spoiler]a wall

In AZ we get a nifty cheapo big pamphlet of people voicing an opinion for or against a certain measure.
This year was no exception.
A piddling size for the YES section.
A massive size for the NO section.
Keypoints on NO: Law was almost a giveaway to current dispensaries, as it would continue the limits of retail locations. It also didn't really decriminalize marijuana fully (or some argued at all). You could still get properly stiffed because it legalized recreational pot but didn't have much in protections against getting busted.
Mix the good points for NO (and your meddling devil's reefer money from out of state) and you got shitty measure that deserved to fail by being so shilly to dispensary owning faggots

Will people be able to use it without going to jail in either case? If yes then there is no difference in anything that matters.

haha
The law exists to structure societyIt is not required that a law settle disputes in a rational and unbiased manner. That is simply the wish of people in western countries. Many other countries and eras of our own have had successful laws that were biased or arguably irrational. The law doesn't punish murder and theft because they are murder and theft. The law punishes murder and theft because the peopleOr more accurately the people who write the law oppose murder and theft. The law must fundamentally answer the question of right and wrong. Whatever the law punishes is wrong, whatever it doesn't is at least not wrong and maybe even right. How does it assign values to actions? How does it what needs to be punished and what does not? How does it determine how to properly punish a crime? The law cannot decide these things, the law is formed from them. The law can only codify what the people have accepted to be right and wrong.

I argued to you that it's impossible to not finance the Jew other than miraculously finding everything in nature or through theft and/or making it with your two own hands. Your argument is a non-argument. I'm actually ready to overthrow kikes anyday, which is more to say than you with your DUDE WEED LMAO, let's decriminalize so we get a bunch of lazy parasites who sit on their asses, have no risk of being fined/forced to rehab for being complacent pieces of shit who eat the fried Jew and watch the electric Jew while getting still sold their drug of choice by criminal elements who just give a part of their profit to fund the CIA's black budget and will physically remove their competition and also use the cops to do so. You do know that decriminalization applies to users only, right? No way in hell will a government decriminalize traffic and production. At least, as log as it's ran by ZOG. Then again, the jewdicial system will find a way to interpret and say what a user has on him is for trafficking purposes if they really want him.

There is almost no real discussion happening here and 95% of Holla Forums is ignoring this thread, there is nothing "interesting" about this. There are other forums you can take this argument and not be mostly shunned for it. This is a topic (as I already stated) that is much like the topic of religion and will only devolve into shitposting and name-calling, as everyone already probably has a strong opinion that isn't going to change from scrolling through a thread on Holla Forums. ITS A D&C THREAD and you are making more obvious with each post.

Re-read my first post, I'm actually ok with states voting for it either way (whether it be staying illegal, decriminalizing, or full legalization) There are obvious (((drawbacks))) no matter how you slice it. Do you have the credentials to review both the "expert" studies that conclude positive effects and the ones that conclude negative effects? I don't and I'd bet most of Holla Forums doesn't, and its really a worthless argument to make either way.

My personal anecdote in my first post here is pretty much only a negative one. If I could un-smoke 10 years of weed, get back the probably over 10000$ spent, undo the lung damage, and restore maybe a bit of brain function I would do it in a heartbeat.

Why the mods haven't anchored this thread yet is beyond me.

Because some, if not all of them are stoners would be my guess.

that seem like a whole bunch of pseudo-philosophical chicken or the egg speculation tbqh, not gonna say its wrong but it doesnt have much to do with reality as far as I can tell. From the standpoint of the state the law is there to keep shit running in a semi-coherent matter.

Murder isnt illegal because of its inherent immorality, its illegal because society cant function if you are constantly under threat of being murdered, the same applies for lesser "evils"