1776 was a mistake

King George III didn't do anything wrong. If anything, he was way too soft on the colonies. Everything wrong with the world today can be traced back to a group of rich smugglers reading too much of Locke's nonsense.

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Things might have been better that way. But we weren't letting his parliament overstep their bounds and tells us what to do.
Just like with Lincoln. If we had again proven we have the right to self rule and self determination, we would also be fine today.

Ultimately all the Founding Fathers basic assumptions about the system they desired have been proven wrong time and time again, the Civil War being just one example. Not only that, but had the American Revolution failed, sure the colonists may have always had issues with Parliament, but many of the other more disastrous revolutions that followed could have been more easily avoided as it wasn't just a Britain vs America issue but a war between two different ideals of government. The war's ending in victory for the colonists gave new impetus to the followers of Enlightenment ideals who saw revolt as the solution rather than cooperation with existing, more traditional powers.

In this way, America's Revolution is also responsible for the rise of socialism & communism as well as democratization of Great Britain since America's victory was also a victory for the liberal Whigs in the British Parliament.

No, the only real problem was that there were radically different stocks of people in the various states. If this was understood and cherished, there would never have been a problem. You're trying to claim there was an ideological problem, which is not true.

I would additionally point out that examining ideological issues is solely a white thing. Any other race when they overthrow a government only changes who the leaders are, not what the system is.

U S A U S A U S A~
FREEDOM WON AGAIN BABY!!!!!~

How? A bunch of businessmen and opportunists played the stupid masses into seizing the colonies while the UK had to handle shit back in Europe, do you really think muh tea tax was a legit issue?

If Americans didn't fight against the kiked crown, they'd be binning knives and get arrested for defending their daughters from rape right now.

Because the Royal Charters of the colonies included
COMPLETE SELF RULE
The governors they elected, and anything else under their charters, or constitutions if they had them, individually, were absolutely supreme. If the colonies were allowed to continue in this self rule, there would never have been a problem.

It is functionally the same thing as the United Nations today declaring that they can tax internet connections. Literally nobody gave them that right, but they're going to try it anyway.

The conclusion, of course, of this self rule continuing is a complete dominance of the British Empire today. The states would have always been a part of the Empire, only enhancing its strength. In turn, the states would safely have its own people and culture which would have never had cause to erode.

Except there was, very much so. King George's reign was marked by a return to a much older hands on policy for the British monarchy as opposed to his predecessors, including William of Orange, who didn't know English and had to let the Parliament act more freely. Most Loyalists also agreed that Parliament was all kinds of stupid, this was one thing that united both the Loyalists and the Revolutionaries as a matter of fact but ideological & party differences played a major role. Loyalists were derided as being Tories by their opponents for a reason

Britain would probably be a lot less secular and liberal now actually had they won.

fuck off brit. true fascism is survival of the fittest. you cucks got wrecked and now look at you.

Exactly. All the colonies governed themselves independently of the other colonies and only in essence answered individually to Britain and it was this state of affairs that the Articles of Confederation sought to preserve at first. Then the Constitution replaced that and brought each colony into a federal union. After that, differences in the cultures of the North and South and the debate over slavery and the bringing in of new states as slave or free eventually led to the Civil War, which ended into erosion of individual state sovereignty.

You're not separating the two things. Today does the British Parliament have control over what Canada and Australia do? No. But their military do bow to the Crown first.

People in Britain still can't vote in commonwealth elections, nor in the colonies of that time.


That only works if there was never a fight at all. Let us alone means
LET US ALONE
Something my people never fucking get for any length of time. We had it during the Colonial era until it was ruined. Then we had it until the Federal Government decided that actually it created the States rather than the other way round. Today we have infinite spics. It never ends.


So why do you have a problem with a solid Confederate? You get what I'm saying. We didn't start anything on any occasion.

Differences in the peoples, user. Culture springs from the people.

The colonies had the equivalent of the Statute of Westminster from the British.

Would Canadians like it if Britain began to tax their shit in the 70s?

Reported.

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After Cromwell let the jews back and no one kicked them back out rebellion was the only sane option.

So, that's it then.

As much as I agree with you, todays probably not the best day to discuss non democratic systems

Yup. Constitutional Monarchy is the ideal form of government.

George for king

It's actually a great day. America's actually kind of proven just how ridiculous their republican structure is and how much they've undermined the principles of their founding fathers in such a short period of time that their country has existed. The Founding fathers of the republic of the united states sought to create a more aristocratic republic headed by men of reason, high class and humble temperament born of a respectable stock with the aim of preventing radical elements and populist leaders from taking advantage of the stupid uneducated masses and their most common prejudices. They opposed democracy as something which would lead to either degeneracy or dictatorship, rather than enlightened leadership or liberty.

Trump is merely petty bourgeois cavorting in realms reserved for kings and nobility. There's no grace to him, no nobility, no spiritual reverence, no high minded intellectualism, nothing beyond egomania and self-absorption mixed with a kind of crude nationalism that naturally satisfies the crudest elements of American society. Hillary of course lost because although she represents an older more sane order of things where politicians were expected to be experts in some technocratic sense, she also represents its thorough corruption

Thats what the filthy kikes get for trying to back our currency with a fiat

KIKES NEED GAS

Jesus. I cannot wait to hang you communist faggots (and rape you beforehand if you're a woman).

And that's what makes him a man of the people. You talk as if there isn't laden romanticism in his personage.

kys.

Marx didn't coin the word you fucking idiot. The term existed long before him since feudal times to describe the wealthy segment of urban society normally associated with the merchant & artisan class of Europe and not the traditional fucking nobility or the rural peasantry.. Holy fucking shit. Just kill your self.

Right, that's the whole problem. The right to rule is something you're born with. the people have the right to decide how to divide their work among themselves for this year's harvest. They have the right to choose which doctor they want to treat their illnesses. They have the right to collect stamps instead of comics with their disposable income. They have the right to elect who in their community will be their ambassador to the crown, but they don't have the right to elect who the head of the country because the country doesn't belong to the people, it belongs to the king who has been given the land by right of inheritance from his forebears who received their authority from God, the king of all.


Romanticism, sure. Substance, no.

Violence is the king of all, and if that king is not a warrior then he is no king at all.

pick one

We're going to need a bigger oven.

fuck off britfag

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Are you saying he hasn't torn his opponents apart?

Jesus. That's a horribly made image.

Gas yourself, kike bank dick sucker.

"The refusal of King George 3rd to allow the colonies to operate an honest money system, which freed the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, was probably the prime cause of the revolution." – Benjamin Franklin, Founding Father

Lucky you got away from all of that.

Back to the leftside faggot.

Gas yourself

can't wait till the day that cheap made-in-china country of yours floods from all the sweat from your non-melting cheese.

Inferiority complex? This is coming from the inhabitant of the country that tells the whole world it's the biggest superpower ever and shows off and starts wars at every oppurtunity to "assert" itself when really the rest of the world is laughing at you all. Your entire country has an inferiority complex.


Kill yourself you stupid fat shithead.

That isn't what the rebellion was about.

It was about land. The king effectiely said "stop expanding west you cunts. And stop killing the natives to take their land, you can kill them in self defence or if they're being twats but no more of this land stealing nonsense."

So you're saying there's nothing wrong with letting huge swaths of valuable land go untouched?

Nigger, that's not my OC, I just found it. This stupid thread isn't worth making any OC

>Inferiority complex? This is coming from the inhabitant of the country that tells the whole world it's the biggest superpower ever and shows off and starts wars at every oppurtunity to "assert" itself when really the rest of the world is laughing at you all. Your entire country has an inferiority complex.


I was against Clinton bombing Serbia back when I was in high school, back when it wasn't popular to say the media was lying and the genocide in Kosovo was a big lie.

USA was designed to be Mystery Babylon by the masons. A sacrificial lamb that brings the end times.

Fuck off, kike.

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Loyalcuck git out.

your time is coming redcoat

If we're gonna larp, let's larp hard:

1531 WAS A MISTAKE

I'f we're gonna larp harder
2020 WAS A MISTAKE

1453 was a mistake. Somebody forgot to close the gate. :^)

Actually the mistake was not immediately sailing across the ocean and taking over the fucking isles then beheading George in front of your faggot ancestors.

t. better than you

If we're gonna larp, we have to larp deeper:

1290 WAS A MISTAKE

Honestly I feel losing the colonies was a good thing. It allowed us Brits to learn a lesson on how pissed off people can be. Ultimately driving us East to secure more profitable areas. Ignoring the minor-rivalry the US and the UK had it allowed us to spread Anglo culture across the world. And when we retired from it at the end of WWII when the Empire decolonized. The US is probably the best thing the Empire has ever (indirectly) caused. The Freedoms that America hold sacred have been exported across the globe.

All in all I think it was a win-win. As the momentum with Brexit and the United States elections has helped cause the state of affairs we're seeing now.

We did it lads.

Miss the crown already?

Perhaps he is wondering why you larp with a man, before larping even harder

43 WAS A MISTAKE

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Fuck off brit fag

He should've tried appeasing the colonials with a representative in the British government and allowed them to trade with other nations. Might've reduced the income in the short run but imagine if the British empire had been able to leverage the resources of North America for all those centuries.

fuck off perfidious albion
USA USA USA USA USA USA USA

Oh gosh. Someone get this hothead out of here.

America's original system of government is more true to our Saxon roots than monarchy is. Do some research before you post.

Here is where I remind you that there is a time limit on civilization. 250 years, or about 10 generations. How it is set up doesn't actually matter. Here's a strange example:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamluk_Sultanate_(Cairo)

It still lasted a similar amount of time. The ultimate cause for each collapse is not adhering to its own founding principles combined with dysgenics.


Very true. Just as Robin Hood fought the Norman robber barons, we fight the same fight.

Actually, yanks had their shit kicked in repeatedly 1:1 until the French began pouring billions (yes, billions) into the war effort and started landing French regulars.

They plunged their country into a catastrophic famine over it lel

Britain did a Brexit and now they are desperate. There's nothing left of the Empire.

Trump is a typical Amsterdammer from New York, arrogant and headstrong. He even has a Dutch last name. Small wonder the Brits hate him.

George III's line isn't even legitimate, he is descended from usurpers. So there was no lawful ordained monarch which the colonists rebelled against.
Don't try and act like the Brits at that time were the model of tradition and the US was the spark that lit liberalism… the British Empire by that time was already degenerated.

You got that wrong, Brit. Letting Parliament act freely is the Dutch thing.

Bla-bla-bla. If the Brits had stayed, New York would now be majority Paki.

George wanted to negotiate to keep the American colonies, it was Parliament that fucked it up.

America is a Republic so your point is invalid by definition

Sorry anglo-bro, but you're wrong. The English Revolution is what started this whole mess.

You guys decided to chimp/SJW out against the Nord aristocracy.

Everyone who replied to this thread without saging should be banned.

This is how its going to be from now on :

1. Shill posts thread that splits pol apart. Idiots reply.

2. Somebody points out obvious shilling.

3. Shill: Muh old fag. Pol used to discuss these things etc.

Dont fucking fall for it. This is what happened to cuck/pol/

i fucking knew it!!!

The confederates were the Jew funded side; Lincoln printed the greenback to avoid international Jewry.

How autistic does a sperg have to be to post like this?

Exactly, you weren't nearly ambitious enough for us colonists Britain and thus had too be shed.

Manifest Destiny

Manikek Destiny

- REX GEO III
Oct 27, 1775

The King, who went mad regularly, hugely miscalculated and pledged to give the entire midwest to Quebec's Roman Catholics, massively infuriating the God-fearing Protestant American Colonists who were preparing to exploit that territory for themselves. This was probably the most important gripe in the Declaration of Independence.

They put fucking huge taxes on

Then after we got fucking pissed off at that they made the retarded move of jacking up our sales taxes just to pay their legislators higher salaries with the Townshend Acts.

Seriously, read our history you fucking retard and realize the fucking mountain of horseshit taxes the crown dumped on our heads before you shit on our reasoning.

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Our culture spreads by splintering and conquering. I doubt you'd say the Saxon and Teuton should have joined together or the Frank and Goth? Diversity in tribal identities is our strength.

If you've read Tacitus's lectures on Germanic culture or know the Norse sagas you'd see how Trump started his presidential bid.

Just like in the past when you were an upcoming noble in the tribe you'd force the king to do something you wanted but detrimental to his ultimate rule. Something the tribe itself felt should be done but an action coming from you the noble not the king at the time. Examples, Franks:Merovech, Saxons:Edbert, Vandals:Gunderic,… list goes on.

Trump's was getting Obama to release his birth certificate, once he did he knew Obama was to weak to lead and he would have combat against him and his faction.

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That's not even remotely possible, but nice try.

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Daily reminder Britistan has been under kike occupation since Cromwell let them in in return for yid blood money in the Civil War to form the New Model Army.
FUCKING PARLIAMENTARIANS GET OUT GET OUT REEEEEE
'Murrica did the right thing

The English crown is even more jewed than we are. They were jewed back then too. 1776 was necessary.

This is a thinly veiled brit/pol/ thread if I've ever seen it.

*seen one