Search the internet enough and you’ll come across the mind numbing horror of comic book apologist fanboys.
There’s an entire community of people trying to defend Man of Steel, claiming that Superman “actually saved the entire planet so therefore he didn’t let anyone die.”
Although they’re always suspiciously ignoring things like this:
It was so bad that they had to devote half of the sequel to it, which only makes you wonder why they allowed it to happen in the first place. The answer to that is obvious: Zach Snyder thought it would look cool for Superman and Zod to level half a city just punching each other. The same appeal that anime fans have to their dumb anime cartoons, and no it’s not a coincidence that a lot of people who like anime also liked Man of Steel.
This is because they don’t care about objective reality. They think things such as “perception is reality,” and that therefore all “truth” is subjective and can not possibly exist. This is regardless of those sayings pertaining to the idea of how most people tend to get reality wrong. Objective reality does first have to exist, after all, in order for people to think that reality can be subjective. Perception is not reality, it’s just how people get reality wrong. And this shouldn’t be a surprise, considering how often you see people become angry over verifiable statements of fact. Just look at JonTron, people are furious at him, and he didn’t say anything that was factually incorrect, but they got mad because they don’t want it to be correct.
As far as people white knighting for Man of Steel, they are fanboys of a corporate property, and therefore will deny any reality and misrepresent any series of events in order to portray their false narrative. People do it with comic books and people do it with politics, people can do it with anything.
This is the result of a culture that does not value honesty as the highest quality. It treats honesty as a burning acid, and they’ll put up any shield to avoid it.
In essence, the denial of fact comes from a very ordinary reframing of the question, one of those “Rules for Radicals” tactics used to misdirect scrutiny and activate kneejerk emotional reactions that prevent people from using their reason or logic on a subject.
People complained that the end of Man of Steel was essentially a giant 9/11 holocaust, which it was, and that Superman was essentially incompetent at preventing most of it, or worse, directly responsible for a large portion of it, both are true.
When you instead pretend that “people are saying Superman didn’t save anyone,” you can then focus on scenes of Superman saving a few people, and ignore all the times Superman let them die or caused them to die.
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All of Man of Steel's flaws were fixed with Batman v Superman.
ha, little laugh
I like anime..yet never did like Man of Steel. Hell, in the taking fights from anime thing, even Goku had the fight moved to a non-populated area and people always think that Goku is rock stupid..what does that say about MoS Superman?
Honestly, MoS have much bigger problems than just Supes not saving people. For starters, Pa Kent being a dumbass and not letting Clark save him.
I like anime. I like Dragon Ball. I hated Man of Steel
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Hi PGA
Then why did you reply to it, dumbass?
Fuck off cunt, you think we can't see your desperate attempts to stay relevant by trying to turn yourself into a boogeyman?
There's only a handful of anons that remember you at all.
well I thought it was a pretty nice movie
This movie would be as much as 10% better if it were recolorized to not look like a clinically depressed fever dream.
You realize that issue has Superman be super chill with accidentally killing a bunch of (genocidal) aliens right?
He tried to and got smacked back into a building by Zod every time.
People are kinda ignoring that Superman is not Goku, who has spent his entire life fighting with enthusiasm and skill; it's literally the first time he's been in a superpowered fight, he barely has an idea of what his powers are and what they can do, and he's up against a crazed supersoldier who goes from not giving a shit about collateral damage to actively causing it so he can Suicide By Superman.
Though the 'tactical realism' argument has always been completely laughable, and amounts to the kind of fanfiction where Jimmy the Edgehog saves all the people and kills all the bad guys and has sex with Wonder Woman, Supergirl and Dex-Tarr all at the same time.
Though the idea is also that sanitised cartoon/comic violence and the retcon of the Hulk literally never causing collateral damage is a complete absurdity the movie takes an effort to show as complete fantasy. When superpowered beings do battle, people are going to die. It's not Marvel movies where cars getting blown up is the extent of collateral damage. You are complaining that the movie doesn't condescend to you like a child or angry soccer mom, assuring you that everything's alright and no one really gets hurt except the bad guys.
Say what?
Goes to show how terrible the film is
No he didn't, he barely made any effort. He punched the bad dudes INTO buildings, both in the Metropolis and Smallville fights (like when he dragged Zod's face through a skyscraper away from "ground zero"). It should also be noted that it was Zod took the fight into space.
Superman also differs from Goku by (supposedly) being a lot smarter and caring a lot more for the people of his adopted world, thus not being nearly as careless with their safety. Even as a rookie, we expect more from Superman.
Nice strawman. This issue isn't as black and white as "no violence/destruction for the kiddies" or "turn every city into fucking Hiroshima, fuck the consequences". Hell, the fucking Justice League cartoon had Superman and Captain Marvel go at it in a nearly equally destructive manner but actually took the time to contextualize the violence so it actually mattered while delivering some spectacle. The violence in Man of Steel only tangentially mattered in the film's sequel. As a self-contained movie it adds nothing to Superman's development (nothing like him learning to be responsible with his powers, etc) and just makes Superman appear uncharacteristically careless or completely inept with how both he and the movie barely address it, which is the primary criticism over the destruction. You're essentially creating the same strawman outlined by this user's post
And again, since when?
That was a whole plot point, especially the mindless Hulk, he was supposed to have killed hundreds.
The fuck? Nearly every time the hulk fights there's collateral damage and they either show it right there, directly or indirectly, or explicitly state it afterwards.
I always LOL at Superman saving one soldier falling from a helicopter and completely ignoring the remaining crew crashing to their deaths with the rest of the helicopter. Also, Superman tackling Zod into a fucking power plant and exploding the shit out of it, while leaving his mom behind with a bunch of murderous aliens who could just as easily take her hostage and demand he surrender or they kill her.
Why does the DCCU insist on making Superman a moron? They made Batman cool, albeit a murderer, they made Wonder Woman badass, and Aquaman looks cool as heck in the JL trailers, yet Superman is basically a mindless tool.
Superhero movies are shit. This is demonstrated by the fact that Logan is now being touted as the greatest superhero film of all time, despite not being a good movie, or a superhero movie at all.
Darkseid killed the entire staff of the Daily Planet, including Lois, and DCAU Superman didn't even react
But user, they ran out of the way so they're safe!
In cartoons, if the danger is out of sight then it's out of mind.
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