Is calling lower class white people "white trash" or other related slurs as harmful as calling a lower class black...

As harmful? No. But do keep in mind that in the post Civil War South the white trash were considered just above the uh negroes in the social hierarchy, True right up to the Civil Rights era.
A must read on the subject: 'White Trash: The 400-Year Untold History of Class in America' (Nancy Isenberg)

H.P. "all niggers are alien god worshippers" Lovecraft looked down on white trash and thought they were more inhuman than Native Americans

They say Webster's once defined nigger as a "low life individual incapable of helping oneself."

With no mention of race or ethnicity until the definition was changed to 'a racial slur to insult black people.'

"Nigger" is literally a corruption of "negro", and it wasn't even insulting at first.

18th century America was neck deep in idpol, and it shows–not only did being black make you worthless, being worthless somehow made you black.

That too.

Even "yellow belly" and similar insults just meant high-yellow or mulatto.

why do you believe this?

yes

white trash
[power gap]
blacks

It's a "classist" middle-class slur against poor white people.

As a result of using imageboards since 2004, I've been called every name under the sun, from lukewarm to unimaginably offensive.

My health nor mentality have suffered in any way.

white trash
trailer trash
rednecks
hillbillies
ghetto blacks
bogans
chavs

It's more about how someone acts than just their class status.

you cant be racist toward white people living in the first world

Yes. Yes you can.
There just isn't a system of racism against white people in the first world. That doesn't exclude individual or small scale bigotry.

go home jason

No. There is no such thing as reverse racism.

Its a bad thing because insults and slurs against working class people is porky propaganda designed to demonise and dehumanise the working class in order to halt class consciousness. Porky wants everyone, including the working class itself, to associate the working class with lazy drunk criminals.

These guys gets it.
It's irrelevant if the term is racist or not. If you use it you distance yourself from the people that have the most to gain from a socialist system.
The porky media are pushing these people as the enemy, genetically hardwired for facism, and people bought it.
White trash is the most obvious dehumanization of the working class there is. You need to wise up and start thinking tactically.

How is white trash significantly different from 'lumpenproles'? Some people really are useless to socialism.

I think the people who make these arguments have never actually interacted with these people

Lumpenprole is identityless, and is moreover not an absolute against lumpens. It's a means of categorizing usefulness, not dividing and saying "see, they're the ones holding society (muh profits) back!". This is conversely also why you will never see non-lumpens fight amongst lumpens whilst calling them lumpens; the idea of the useless lumpenproletariat is one of function, not identity.

Yes as it vindicates racists.

No one should be policing each others speech, it depends on context. I wouldn't condone such behaviour, but I wouldn't go out of my way to destroy someone's career. I definitely think menial workers (toilet cleaners, factory workers, truck drivers etc) shouldn't be dismissed from work for being nazis.

Police, people in positions of authority like managers etc however should be dismissed though.

sage because idpol thread

Lumpenproles are basically proles who are divorced from the productive process and the legitimate economy entirely. Homeless people, criminals, drug addicts. Marx argued that these people, because of their being separated from their lass, were useless for the purposes of a revolution. tbh I don't entirely agree with that. Where is the distinction between a lumpenprole and a prole who has lost their job, or gone to prison and otherwise hit on hard times. People can go back and forth between being lumpens and proles. I also disagree with the assertion that they have no revolutionary potential whatsoever, there's no reason to assume that they wont see a revolution as being in their interest and wont particiate. Would I be wrong in suggesting that perhaps Marx's analysis was coloured by his own social predjudices?

Only white people can be racist, since the system is biased towards white people, while other races are severely socially disadvantaged and don't have the power to defend themselves against the systematic egocentric racism in the first world.

I don't think we should use the phrase "white trash". It alienates the white poor who are the target of that phrase.

Go watch sargon of akkad

Even SJWs are beginning to admit this is a bullshit claim. Back to tumblr, now.

You belong in >>>Holla Forums.
The personal "racism" white people face is nowhere near comparable to the racism minorities face, both in the first world and the third world. Just go to any third world country, you'll experience white pri.vilege right away

You do realise that was agreeing with you right?

this isnt r/fullcommunism jason

Fuck off.
Its possible to be racist to white people, idpolers on tumblr are examples.

There is a systematic racism that works in white people's favor, i wont deny that. But smaller bigotry exists and your average joe white dude is not excluded from it.

Are jews white?

Except when your "white" boy is mentally ill, then there's no protections, and a world full of hate.

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mixed race people are most likely to suffer from mental illnesses though

so you agree with me? good!

Fuck off mautist. Racism is affects individuals not whole races, it's possible for one member of the group to suffer racism and another to benefit from it, both are wrong

What does that change? Mental illness takes away an Indo-European's "white muh privilege."

Police kill mentally ill people more than anyone, and despite your assertion "white" people still account for the majority of police homicide victims.

Most of the people who use "white trash" and "redneck" are upper-class white people.

are you saying white individuals who get called redneck gets their fee-fees hurt just as much as a third worldist coal miner being called a "nigger" or "gook"? sure white people suffer from racism, but their suffering is so insignificant its almost laughable. any white person who claims to be a "victim of racism" is a crybaby who should go see what actual racism looks like. in the third world, thanks to over a century of colonialism and imperialism, lighter skinned people and people with european ancestry are considered socially superior. white people have damaged their culture and their dignity, any "racism" they suffer can be justified.

pics related

never mind, you're irredeemable, just go back to r/socialism

2nd image is bogus speculation, 1st image is all homicides.

why dont you just admit youre wrong, m8

also in case you didnt know, being victims of homicide is a pretty big deal, doesnt matter if its the police who kills or other people, in this system of systematic racism, most minorities suffer while most whites dont. dont try to curve it into a "muh police" argument, blacks get killed the most, accept it and admit we live under systematic oppression of minorities

because you can't appreciate the difference between different people and that collective responsibility is bunk

i can't see why else you think white people deserve hate for stuff that happened before they were even born

do you think minorities deserve all that oppression that they face daily just because of their race?
just look at a very basic example, the new ghostbusters had 4 actresses, only one of them is a black woman. all 4 had twitter accounts, yet only the black one was harassed, as if its somehow her fault that the movie sucked shit. of course, she did provoke a lot of people, but the hate she gets is pretty crazy and shows just how racism is alive and well.

no, but you seem to believe that white people deserve it

lol, that sure as shit isnt true, they all got hated on rightly or wrongly but from what i understand the black woman reacted more entertainingly, that's what it's all about. but even if they were all racist, what does that matter? even if all but one white person was racist it still wouldnt be right to discriminate against them

CDC image is speculation, it speaks for itself.

Ya don't say?

My point was police kill "whites" more than any other demographic. You're dragging me in circles with your bullshit.

And since you bring up government statistics, those also illustrate the "other people" committing homicides are more than likely "black."

In this system, poor of any ethnicity suffer. If you place the so-called minority on a pedestal, you only alienate the poor that pass for "white."

Yes, but not by police- they get killed the most by "blacks."

i believe the "racism" modern white people face are a result of them completely humiliating and exploiting other races for 4 centuries. though i dont think they filly deserve it, i think the "racism" is a tiny problem and can totally be justified

literally how can minorities even discriminate against white people? sure minorities can be prejudiced, but they cant discriminate against white people because they dont have the power to do so, theyre disadvantaged in society, purely because of their race thanks to systematic racism.

youre the one who intentionally brought up "police homicide" so you dont have to deal with the rest of the homicide committed also by non-police, which minorities obviously suffer more.

duh, but the poor of the first world, and especially the poor whites of the first world dont suffer nearly as much as the third world. their standards of living are way better, theyre regarded highly in society and are more likely to be born in good families with a definite history and culture which is taught in their schools.
theyre killed by other blacks because a lot of blacks live in shitty conditions caused by capitalism and systematic racism, and because of distrust against law enforcement, which is caused by decades, if not centuries of being abandoned by the authority. of course blacks are more vulnerable to homicide than other blacks, and thats caused by racism.

Anyone actually interested in this question has some reading to do. Short answer, yes, long answer, also yes.

amazon.com/Not-Quite-White-Boundaries-Whiteness/dp/0822338734

Then you are part of the problem that divides the proletariat.

So they use rape & violence to achieve the power they aren't granted by legal actions.

Only in Iceland and China, otherwise no.

proletariat in the first world are hardly proletariat.
fuck off back to Holla Forums

look at any american schools and see how much history of other races are taught, despite their nation being built upon the exploitation of other races

America teaches American history.

Its objectives are detrimental, but not racially motivated.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Education_Board#Philosophy

Well, you said they can't discriminate, but violence is well within their ability to be discriminatory.

And by your logic it's justified when they do so, and regardless people like you will defend them as if you were family.

No, you fuck off back to Holla Forums.

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Why would blacks be justifiably killed (they would say murdered if that wasn't the case) at 5 times the rate of whites while being under 15% of the population? Why would blacks resist arrest in over 90% of arrests and just generally act as stupid as possible while being confronted by armed officers of the law?

Confirmation.

Jews are now white.

>>>/n/469346

heatst.com/entertainment/wonder-womans-gal-gadot-attacked-online-by-sjws-for-being-a-zionist/

archive.is/8KG6r

SJWs boycotting Wonder Woman movie, sending death threats to lead actress because she's Jewish

There's a difference between 'she's jewish' and 'she's israeli'

That was before the French killed Gaddafi. Now it's one of the only safe havens for French Jews.

pol, you can say 'nigger,' we know it's you.

>>>/gulag/

Neither of those things are harmful.

If a nigger is going to get harmed over being called a nigger, we don't need this individual in the gene pool.

>heatst.com/entertainment/wonder-womans-gal-gadot-attacked-online-by-sjws-for-being-a-zionist/
Now I can't honestly say that Cultural Non-Marxism didn't inherit a thing from USSR.

Define White.

And yes, it's classcuckery.