KGB is not your friend

TL;DR Putin is not a right-wing politician, he is tricking western right-wingers to think so to backstab them, when the time will come.


I'm tired to see, how alt-right praises Putin. The idea, that Russia is somehow conservative country and Putin is somehow "nationalist" politician, has nothing to do with reality.

Real policies of Russia are anti-europeanism, anti-westernism, anti-fascism, pro-sovietism, pro-corruption.

Just show me any speech/publication by any russian politician, who is not in jail, which would be pro-european, pro-white, anti-communist.

Show me ANY factual evidence, that Putin is anti-communist or nationalist.

On the other hand, there are plenty of evidence of the opposite:

Putin says, that he is still into communist ideas
cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/putin-his-communist-party-membership-card-i-still-keep-it-home

Russian Patriarch awards a medal to the leader of the Communist Party of Russia
rferl.org/a/russia-patriarch-orthodox-zyuganov/25438091.html

Putin is concerned about rise of "neo-nazism" in Europe
themoscowtimes.com/articles/russias-putin-says-parts-of-europe-have-lost-vaccine-for-nazism-40418

Russian Foreign Minister condemns "glorification of Nazism" by the US and Trump's anti-muslim policies
tass.com/politics/842761

Russia condemns rename of Moscow's avenue by the name of Ukrainian nationalist in Ukraine
tass.com/politics/886979

Russia is concerned about rehabilitation of Nazism in Europe
tass.com/politics/895897

Russia is concerned about raising Nazism in Ukraine
tass.com/world/817

"Fighting against Neo-Nazism one of Russia’s foreign policy priorities"
tass.com/russia/807578

Russia is concerned about revival of Nazism in Europe
tass.com/russia/795807?_ga=1.248489927.19841382.1478524483

"Attempts to falsify (OP - to step out of anti-fascist allied propaganda) history of WWII undermine foundations of modern world order"
tass.com/russia/815956

Putin calls for fighting any manifestations of Nazism
tass.com/russia/739719

And this is only what I've got from 15-minute random browsing. Just show me somthing comparable, that would prove, that Putin is secretly a conservative?


In the early time of USSR KGB used a trick to defeat right-wing opposition - to create fake right-wing groups and then just kill everybody who would enlist:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Trust


And I think that there is something similar is going on here. Why else a neo-communist regime, lead by a KGB former officers, would spread a myth, that they are fascists and make western right admire them?

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And? No one cares.

stupid faggot

You can consider the record corrected.
now fuck off and kill yourself

Russia in and of itself is not our friend. Russia is only a friend to itself, namely the ruling oligarchy and then maybe the Russian people.

well I don't know why you're complaining to us, we aren't the alt right

and weirdly enough, that's not what a nationalist means. nazi's aren't russian, you dung, and of course he would rather want his enemies to be a degenerate bunch of crybabies rather than a 4th reich warmachine. are you really this retarded? he isn't european, so how are you conflating what he is saying about europe as anti-nationalist? jesus fucking christ, at least try to solidify your own assumptions with nothing but your own fucking assumptions.

He's still better than what we have in the west.
BTW I've been on anti European stint lately, because I'm beginning to think that Europe has the migrants it deserves. If the bombs start falling you can bet your arsenal I'm going to Russia, and not Western Europe.

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You do know newline isn't a secret Reddit conspiracy, don't you. OP's text is formatter rather well. Fuck off kike.

Stop posting Estii, you're drunk.

Name one point in Russian history where they did anything worthwhile to help white people. One thing.

Yes, this is true, good thread OP.

Putin ONLY cares about Russia and russians and favors communism.
He doesn't give a shit about non-russians, whether they be white, blue, yellow, black, brown, grey etc.
With that said, he is against cultural marxism and SJW-ism.
With that also said, he doesn't care about Russia or its inhabitants. 30% of male deaths are caused by alcoholism.
BTFO

you can shill as much as you want, but putin is still better than hollande, merkel and most of western leaders. And btw, putin is the only one to support hungary, the most nationalist country in europe

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Russian IDF.

Sounds like Hillary. Go have a seizure in public, faggot.

Until Trump is elected there is no leader in the west that is non-zog shill. Putin may romanticize the communist history of his country, but he's not actively try to enact the NWO either because he can't or doesn't want to.

your grammar is just not their yet.. I thought they also taught english in tel aviv schools

Kill yourselves.

We aren't (((alt-right))) you fucking normie/ctr shill!!!! Gtfo!!!

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You're not from any Anglo nor Latin decended country, and not Slavic.

>>>/reddit/

descendent*

Around these parts its referred to RIDF, but you don't know that because you came here to shill.

Sage

CTR is just throwing year old shitposts while cleaning out their desks at this point.

Russia has an Italy-tier economy with a relatively imposing military. The real key to managing Russia is European energy autarky [and no, trading a Russian master for a Qatari/Turkish one isn't the answer]. Get real economic leverage on Russia, but don't recklessly antagonize them. If they want a chance to enter the fold, at least on the periphery, with the West, give it to them. Or they can clique up with China once and for all.

You're a fucking retard. There is such a thing called "paragraphs" and "formatting". Jesus fucking Christ I'm either talking to a paranoiac, shill, or retard. I can't wait till the paid people leave.

I agree with this, Putin is interesting but he's really concerned with only Russia first. this isn't a bad thing, and we don't need to appease him but America as a country needs to learn that fucking ANTAGONIZING HIM is not the way to go considering how he's willing to be our match in burning the fucking world down if we fuck with him too much.

We don't need to suck his dick, but we sure as fuck don't want to mess with him when it comes to unprovoked sanctions (HELLO NO-FLY-ZONE SYRIA) because he will have to call then One-Up that shit. I don't claim to be an expert in reading people or in understanding Russian culture, but I can surmise that this motherfucker would rather start up another war than to take it up the ass like everyone else.

Brush up on on your English grammar, Shlomo. I know English is difficult to learn but you should know this by now.


You're gonna poke someone's eye out swinging your nose about like that.

If you want space or comma delineated URL's then I have bad news for you, bud. You ever read the sticky thats been up for two years? You should. It's been up for two years.

You stupid cuck, I was defending your position!

straw man fallacy. I never used such a manichaean argument, but it appears that you bunch of delusional faggots are too into your grandeur delusions to analyze reality. Does putin have flaws? indeed. is he better than most of western leaders? yes. And, you know, if there's a lack of a viable alternative, you gotta make compromises.

this.

Also dont forget, sage goes in every field, including the [▶ Show post options & limits]
:^)

Still waiting, RIDF.

Oi Vlad, where are my AK's at broski?

They always put themselves as top priority. They're white. Draw your conclusions, retard.

it completely comes off as "tradition is a tool of the kikes"

Actually, a paragraph can be a single sentence. Paragraphs are supposed to be started with every "new idea", whatever that constitutes.

In Soviet Russia, Record corrects you!

That's what I said.

No need to make up shit, user.

Pol is not alt-right you shill fagglord
D and C somewhere else schlomo

Thank you for Correcting the Record!

m80, ANYTHING can be a tool of the kikes. Why do you think we have some retards that want to destroy the internet, video games, television, and the book here? Blaming the tool because of the kike is no better than blaming the gun on a murder.

If you needed more reason to believe that the reddit spacing meme is just another ploy from CTR to derail threads, here you fucking go.

You see OP put up his arguments with sources, yet the same ones calling him a "shill" are the same ones failing to refute his points. Then, of course, the derail tactic is used quite efficiently to divide and conquer. I can't wait for CTR HQ to fucking burn.

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There is no grammar police to keep you from doing it but anyone whose had a classical western education in the past thousand years knows shit such as paragraph form, never starting sentences with "and", "but", or "because", the contraction rule, etc.
Foreigners don't have that as apart of curriculum. Their education in English is "learn to understand as fast as possible".

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WE ALL KNOW PUTIN IS NOT NS
BUT HE IS AGAINST MEGAKIKES LIKE SOROS

NOW FUCK OFF AND DIE SOROS SHILL

The enemy of an enemy is not automatically your friend. Holla Forums of all places should know that.

You go to jail in Russia for pointing out that the ussr also invaded Poland with Germany. Imagine what kind of sick shit putin has in store for you if you publicly claim the holocaust didn't happen. Putin is like piece of shit

I be its just real political brah

Says the faggot trying to break ties from a nation who hates the ZoG as much as we do.

We know

But it's good to educate the 4chan faggots who think he wouldn't back up Hillary during a Civil War

Something doesn't add up here

You mean he competes with them.

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There's no rule to not start a sentence with "because". "And" and "but", I can understand, but not "because". That is, I refuse.
For whatever reason, I can't stand contractions in textbooks, books (aside from dialogue), and papers.

Nobody said that
But if putin win against megakikes, we all win

so there is that

Promoting full rage against puting for not being NS is what SOROS SHILLS do

If Putin wins against the Kikes, Putin wins. It's that simple. Again: Russians do not give a fuck about anybody except, sometimes, other Russians.

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Fuck off RIDF

Well shilled, goy.

i dont usually post, but ive lurked on here since gamergate. Man, oh man. I dont know who are the people pushing this pro russian stuff, but its laughable. Regular people have like no rights in russia. The Duma is composed of mostly gangsters. There are like zero intellectuals left in russia. dont forget stalin knocked out like tens of millions of them quite recently. It was just 10 yrs ago that russians wheren't even allowed to travel out of the country and then its only the oligarchs that have any money. You guys dont remember that UN meeting where the mics where left on and obama told putin "wait for my next term then we can really start things up"? moscow by the way is filled with southern republic asians. If you guys watched any porn youd know the russian girls get fkd the hardest ever. well maybe the hungarians or ukrainians also. just stop it with this muh russia is good stuff. it makes you sound like you know nothing about anything. If he appears better then hollande its because France still needs to be taken down while russia has never been up since the commies took over turn of last century. Well you flushed me out, i had to say something. CTR is all about maintaining some opposition and i guess its either Russians or mooslims.. there is just no other plausible second sides left.

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FUCK OFF SIDF

WHO THE FUCK IS JEWING WHO ANYMORE?!

Shilling with fallacies like that is what SOROS SHILLS do.

it's called caution, for the lurkers and the newfags

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Such is life in the WN SUPERSTATE

Putin Forced Labor fine

Do they have SJW's in Russia? No? That's enough for me.

First 3 posts are shills from Russia monitoring Holla Forums. They're here night and day

We can tell you are getting paid instead of being a voluntes when it's so obvious you don't even know how to shill. Go and quit CTR, you don't deserve that job

It's true. Russia might even be worse than the USA. And they actually want to come here to "help" us if we have a revolution. Putin? More like Rasputin. I bet they have children on conveyor belts in Siberia on standby for when some russian orthodox pedopriest needs a little wax on wax off. Sick fucks. I like their woman though.

You first.

Shit.

Putin is a SJW: >>8107116

Femen.

We get it. You speak the lingo, Vlad

And don't they brutally oppress Femen unlike in the West where SJW's run the universities and are applauded in the media.

Where's his blue hair and LGBTQ values? I don't see him advocating for trannies in little girls bathrooms.

Because the Russian Femen are sort-of threats to the establishment instead of being the establishment, perhaps.

Didnt SJWs try to tske Holla Forums offline a year back? They tried to DDOS us and forced Holla Forums to change its domain name. sjws love shutting down shit they dont agree with.

Obviously putin is better than that, putin blocked Holla Forums in russia not for any censorship reasons, but to protect the average Russia from Holla Forums terrorists it makes so much sense

No one here is "Alt-Right" you FILTHY kike.

Russia tortures, kills SJWs/Puslims/leftards and rapes them. This is all I ever wanted. Of course I support Russia.

Congratu-fucking-lations, you called me out on just seeing this thread, then submitting my first post.
It is true that tolerance breeds weakness, so why do we have such a tolerance for posts having no fucking argument?
You sound too retarded to even be CTR, despite their minimal IQ, you're literally using >imblying tier shitposting to defend your point that a certain type of formatting invalidates an argument.

>>>Holla Forums

returnofkings.com
GO AND STAY GO

Putin's strategy is to put out conflicting ideological messages to confuse us. He's a christian nationalist one day and a pseudo-communist the next day. He funds anti-fascist movements in his own country and quasi-fascistic and nationalist movements in Europe. It's like being in a fight with someone you can't see. If govts are confused and unsure about what he really thinks they can't figure out what he's planning and preempt it.

He reminds me of CIA in Game of Thrones when he assassinates the king, his ally and benefactor. When Sansa asks him why he would seemingly act against his own interests he replies:

“Always keep your foes confused. If they are never certain who you are or what you want, they cannot know what you are like to do next. Sometimes the best way to baffle them is to make moves that have no purpose, or even seem to work against you. Remember that, Sansa, when you come to play the game.”

[Sansa]“What . . . what game?”

“The only game. The game of INTERNATIONAL POLITICS.”

More "Putin is not a white nationalist guys"

We know
We don't care
stop pretending you're dismantling anything but a retarded strawman
Retarded posting like this just serves to make us like him more. If it wasn't for the fact that you're so retarded I would swear this was a Kremlin psy-op designed to make Putin look good for burgers.

Even if you show how russia actually lives, and that Putin is not nationalist, they will not believe you. This is how subversive indoctrination is.

Did you forget how KGB works, did you watched Yuri?

Absolutely agreed, this is why putin jailing holocaust deniers is the right thing to do, keep the kikes unaware of the true motives. Realpolitik brah

see
reddit.com/r/kotakuinaction
go and stay go

Wew lad!

but we don't know what side he''s on

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it's about confusing people; typical KGB psychological warfare.

They kill moo-slims?
Aren't those about a third of the population over there?

Look, Russia, at the moment, proves to be a capable ally. Not to suck their dick, but a foreign influence, such as them, could prove to be useful, should Hillary rig the vote.

hey guyz russia is degenerate

checkem.

I don't give a fuck about the siberian commies. Not unless we're actually fighting an all-out war with them.

I'm more worried about the commies within the US

couldn't care less about Putin at this point.

Filtered for 4chin level shitposting.

Hey guys do you hate russians I sure do! I hate how they're so pro gay and anti christian oy vey.

Not an argument. :^)

Russia fought globalism at least a couple times. Like when the rothschilds originally tried to do world government way back when (which is why the czar and his whole family was whipped out generations later) and then during the American civil war by pumping the breaks on the Europeans.

Read it again without problem glasses.

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You see, my understanding of the situation with Russia at the moment is that if Hillary gets elected, Putin isn't going to tolerate her shit (e.g. kikery, corruption, anti-Russian sentiment etc.) and that her becoming elected would pretty much give him the green light to try and neutralise America, as a threat to Russia; as quickly as possible, however it's been shown that Putin has no issue with Trump with all his talk of govenment reform. My point here being:


I dunno, it makes sense in my mind seeing as war in any case would cause major issues/loss of life on both sides, so why bother if there is no real need? regardless of either Trump or Putin's method of leadership

pssssh, nothing personal kid.

Hello ivan, how many rubles did you get paid today?

Not an argument.
Saying "him being against us is actually a long-con because trust me I say so" isn't proof.

You could say anyone is for anything by saying "88D chess lel".

That's way too reasonable of an opinion fam. we have to nuke russia before they kill all the gays or whatever pedocunt's reasons are.

He is against megakike Soros so…

Russians will accept nothing but an utterly strong leader or AT LEAST a leader that appears strong. Just like Turks for example. Putin, Erdogan and yes even Trump are essentially birds of a feather. Trump, being White, still has the upper hand when dealing with these little Czars and Sultans however.

check em

returnofkings.com
Leave.

Better have that desk cleaned out by tomorrow evening. :^)

Pic related retard, stop embarasing yourself fucktard
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user wut, we are into 'communist' ideas.

A company should be barred from acting in a manner against the interests of its nation or face punitive taxes to offset the externalities it creates.

A corporation should be barred from all political speech lobbying or donating. If agents or interested parties associated with that company wanted to lobby or donate their own personal funds than that would be acceptable but no corporate backed political fuckery.

Many of us are starting to lean towards acceptance of a universal minimum income (and gutting all other forms of welfare).

(citation needed)
If they made that investment, it seems to have backfired on them.
Sick strawmans in this thread of shit no one ever fucking believed.
What the hell is with this return of kings shit being bad that schills like to throw around lately?

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The Socialism part of NS and actual for-real communism are still worlds apart.

Judging by the posts in this thread, as well as most others about Russia, it's safe to say this is widely believed by faggots that don't do research, that Russia is white nationalist and working for European ideals.

SHOW ME YOUR BETTER DAMAGE CONTROL MEASURES RETARD

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If Putin was a communist, Russia would be communist.

Putin doesn't hate Europeans. He hates the kikes who rule Europe. Russians have been demanding to be recognized as Eurofags for centuries. Kike rulers of Eurofags started meme that Russians were Asians.

Kikes hate Russia because Kievan Russ destroyed their empire and scattered them to the winds. Many were exiled to the Pale. Deutchfags felt sorry and let some come to Deutchland. Big mistake.

Kikes and their Seljuk cousins destroyed the Greeks/Pontics because Byzantium sponsored Russ destruction of Turk Kike empire.

Kikes scattered in many directions. Some moved north and into Scandinavia. Became Normans, as famous for their archers as the great Khan's (Khagan's/Kagan's/Cohen's/Caan's). Invaded England. Displaced Saxon rulers. Infiltrated Scotland (King David). Displaced Celtic rulers through de Brus and then Stewarts (Cohen's - see family coat of arms). Stewarts eventually displace other, mongrel, Norman house (Tudor's).

Excommunicated, de Brus gets help from fellow outcasts, Knights Templar. Scotland becomes center of world freemasonry, templar graves/churches all over the shop.

Stewarts begin to build banking and commercial empire administered by Bank of England administered monetry system (set up by hook nosed occultist Isaac Newton) and City banks. Commence "Great Game" to destroy Russia.

Amercian colony foments successful uprising against kike overlords. Kikes simply maneovre to establish central bank under their control. Based Andrew Jackson fights back but Woodrow Wilson sells out USAmericans and Fed is established. USAmericans now wage slaves controlled from City of London via branch office on Wall Street. Kike Emperor Redshield continues to work from head office.

Kikes foment Satanic revolution in Russia. Kill 60 million Christians. Send millions of Christian Russians to die fighting their Christian German brothers. Based Solynetsin red pills Russian society and becomes besties with Putin.

Kikes also re-establish old Jerusalem branch that closed down in middle-ages. Convince white Europeans/USAmericans that kikes are people of Judea and not of modern day Ukraine, despite DNA evidence provided by based kike geneticist and significant black market trade of Khazarian artifacts from old country to Israel.

Kikes restart Great Game. Have turned most of West into bastion of Satanism. Male offspring become faggots or freakshows. Female offspring become hoes. To focussed on bathrooms and Kim Kardashians fat ass to recognize.

In short, Putin is based Christian ethno nationalist who doesn't fall for kike memes. Forget left/right. The enemy is liberalism. Liberalism = kike satanism. Putin knows most neo-nazi's who go on the streets are fucktards not to be associated with. Putin is a player. Putin is the hope of the world, after its last hope died more than half a century ago.

Putin is not YOUR friend. He told you so. Why would Putin be friends with people who tolerate rule by Satanists? Why should Putin be friends with people who promote homosex, gay adoption, abortion etc.? Stop blaming Putin for your own cuckdom OP.

sublte

lolzzzzzzzzzzololol
anyone in the peanut gallery looking at this thread can see faggot op is just making shit up about what people believe. Has the samefagging started yet?
wtf i love homosex now.
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Fucking excellent post btw.

thats all i ever want to

You didn't read that post and type your own post out in 80 seconds samefag.

stay quiet my shill friend
and dont come back
:vG=

This is your perception of history on Krokodil.

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The thing that worries me about a universal minimum income is it would foster single motherhood and hence incentivise a short-term mating strategy. i.e. create more cads and hoes

Putin is playing his own game, which means weakening his enemies. Getting NATO and EU to collapse is an obvious path for him to take. He shares a common goal here with the nationalists in US and western Europe. You won't convince anyone west of Poland to hold out against him simply because their goals are fairly well aligned with Russia's.

It's only us, eastern Europeans, getting fucked in the ass when the west balkanizes. Everyone else gets what they want. Shouldn't have relied on ZOG to protect us forever

Is that all you care about Alt-kike?

Not samefag. No rly…

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I feel for Eastern Euros, but you basically have it coming when you allow yourselves to become burger debt slaves for no actual benefit.

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Wew forced labor of what we say is very good for the goy.
A variation of that might be forcing family members to pay for the pensions of their parents.

why even bother trying to convince us here? you guys are bad at your job so the peanut gallery lurking these threads can clearly see you're ignoring what we say and pretending we think putin is some white nationalist hitler 2.0
checkem

Criminally underrated post.

Neo-nazis in ukraine funded by Soros acted like ISIS and lunatic hooligans against unarmed civilians 50+ year old, Crimea would be slaughtered, it would be the new Iraq.

I'm only stating counter-argument not trying to defend him, I agree with OP some people are too flamboyant about Putin, there is no doubt he is infact doing good things as Joel Skousen did not predict he will go to help Syria, Joel doesn't buy into the good-Putin thing he says it's all staged or that they're using Putin and when he's gone Russia will go back to old story, not sure.

Tricking them with WHAT? He needs US. He's broke and has nothing to offer. We already have guns and oil up the ass. And the 'KGB' hasn't existed for over 20 years nigger. At least shitpost with the correct terminology.


I'm tired of you faggots taking so long to die from HIV.


Because you chill in St. Pete in the Summer right? hahaha


WOW, he's for himself and his country? Imagine that. Oh right, we do everything with Trump.


How about I show you my cock going in and out of your mom?

HMMMMM

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you


a big guy?

Try harder

they can't try harder if they don't fundamentally understand how shit gets spread here. For one, they're not paid enough to try harder.
Not that paying them anything is a good usage of anyone's money as it is, but you get the idea.

EE should have created Intermarium. The short sightedness required to believe in deterrence between superpowers as your only defense is staggering. Instead of betting that US will always be run by globalist kikes, who will in turn be balanced by Russia, we should have formed an actual alliance of mutual benefit with our neighbours to resist all of the empires. This can work perfectly well with ethnic nationalism and self rule, as demonstrated by the Swiss - who live in a union of segregated cantons.
If Trump wins, I just hope he can crash NATO gradually, giving us a chance to get our shit together, instead of just selling us to Putin ASAP.
If I could, I would go back in time and slap the shit out of every single one of my countrymen 25 years ago. I didn't pick this shit, but I can't honestly blame anyone in the US for doing what is best for their nation

I would also remind to Putin-lovers, that when Hillary was in power she initiated the Reload policy with Putin, so they were the best friends, actually. Two commies always could find a common ground.

Just an update that Weev was taking the anti Putin pro Ukraine western puppet position on that Southern Nationalist podcast on TRS-Net. Comments?