How to the counter the "obama is rightwing" maymay?

I talk to a lot of leftwingers who try to claim "Obama killed more Muslims than George Bush ever did, so you can't say he's soft on Islam/pro-Muslim". Also they like to bring up the thing about Obama supposedly deporting more people than Bush did.

How do I counter this? Where are these arguments coming from?

We know for a fact that Obama is a leftwing piece of shit who favors all of the evil shit we hate. Pointing that out shows that we (proWhites, "far right") are the underdogs against a seriously fucked up ideology.

So yea, how should I respond to le "obama is rightwing" maymay?

A lot of leftyshits will try to claim that there isn't a huge leftwing dominance in the media, academia and so on, basically to keep up their rebel image. We as "far right" pro-White nationalists need to have good comebacks to dismantle any of their arguments. We need to show clearly that leftism is hegemonic and is fucking horrible. Only when a critical mass of people clearly see this truth will we see the ability to make a change.

Or a lot of them will claim that the Democrats aren't really leftist, because they define anything not 100% utopian socialist as rightwing.

If we can kill the "leftwinger R independent underdog" maymay we kill a huge part of leftism's appeal.

You shouldn't try to counter that claim at all.

You should confirm it.

Obama is a Neocon and a neoliberal, everything left wing voters despise. Hence the only hope for change is Trump.

Don't focus on winning the debate, focus on winning their heart.

I mean, if their care about their precious Muslims lives matter and they claim Obama killed more, then ask them, why are you voting Hillary then? Do you want to kill even more?

Play their argument against them.

nah but Obama is a fucking leftist, he is just restrained from governing like a complete fanatic because the country is still around 50% conservatives.

People have to know that the left is hegemonic and we're fighting against it. I'm talking about real leftycunts who will never in 1,000,000 yrs vote even Jeb Bush-tier Republican.

Feminism, multicult, soft socialism and PC and LGBTBBQ+ and all the rest of it essentially are hegemonic ideologies, sponsored and spread by the powers that be.


This is a good point. But yea it's just important because otherwise the narrative will be that the left has never been in power. We need a massive fucking anti leftwing backlash or western civilization is completely fucking dead.

Leftwing ideology is hegemonic, even if the pure ubersocialism isn't currently practiced by Democrap politicians. They still pander to and give their blessing to leftwing movements, thus legitimizing them in the eyes of the cucked public.

they just think 'left-wing' means 'good guys' and 'right-wing' means 'bad guys'

Wew lads never heard that one before, but if I was forced to respond to that I'd ask if killing Muslims is part of the criteria of being right wing and watch that piece of shit wriggle out of that.

Then once that's over ask which party he was the nominee for and where they lay on the political spectrum, and then bring up Obamacare which is a prime example of leftism, and then keep getting more"examples" of Obama being right wing. Dispel their illusions. I find with leftists that they struggle with using facts and usually end up in a shit flinging competition.

This is a good talking point. Also pointing out that Bush is not fucking rightwing in any meaningful way is helpful, too.

Rightwing imo should mean caring about your race/your people (and thus the land they inhabit) first, above all. Authentic rightwingers are ethnonationalists who want closed borders.

Everyone else is some flavor of enlightenmentist/liberal.

I guess you've never really come into contact with a leftie. Just make fun of them and bully them for being lefties or commies or whatever. They don't think so reason and logic means nothing to them. They do understand feelings though so if you make them feel bad about being a leftie they'll stop.

This is what blows me away the most. The left is full of aging hippies and young faggots who wish they were aging hippies. They're so desperate to have the firehoses turned on them because it validates their shitty lifestyle choices. "Oh, I'm only a loser because the establishment is full of racist white men who want to keep me down." Ok, sweetheart.


Pretty much this. Say:
and then ask why they want another one in office (if they're hilldawgs).
If they're not for Hillary, ask them why Bernie sanders basically kissed the ring and knelt like a little bitch faggot while Trump fought against their ilk.